Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Luigi The President]

I just thought of how with the many characters we have, imagine having Ultimate grand finals at the next EVO be vs. . That would be funny, but not impossible.

[EVO 2019 FINALS!!!] Steve (Mew2King) VS. Daisy (Zer0)
(youtube.com)

Never thought I'd see the day where this is plausible.

 

[xAquaCrystal]

Right, my turn. How would you react to these newcomers?

Geno
Isaac
Shadow
Ken
Decidueye
Bandana Waddle Dee
Dante
Doomguy
Master Chief
Joker (Persona 5)

Geno- Ok cool he was expected
Isaac- Cool. I’m interested in his play style
Shadow- Yes! A million times yes!!!
Ken- Eh he was expected but still meh
Decidueye- Cool seem like a interesting Pokémon and I love his design
Bandana dee- Yes!! Give me the cutie with the spear ^^
Dante- HOLY CRAP!! Was not expecting him but he will be my new main!! *drops everyone for dante*
Doomguy- Eh.
Master chief- Eh.
Joker from persona 5- Joker made it in? Wow ok I’m fine with that. I like P5 so why not.

 

[alemerltoucanet]

Honestly, I'm really just waiting for an Incineroar image "leak" that actually looks real.

 

[RouffWestie]

Right, my turn. How would you react to these newcomers?

Geno - mmkay
Isaac - Yeah!
Shadow - Echo: Wasted potential Unique: OH YEAH!
Ken - Of course.
Decidueye - Oh no.
Bandana Waddle Dee - Heh
Dante - Glorious
Doomguy - mmkay
Master Chief - OH YEAH!
Joker (Persona 5) - eh

 

[Shroob]

Honestly, I'm really just waiting for an Incineroar image "leak" that actually looks real.

I'm convinced that the reason that no one's done it is due to how complex he would be.

IF the Ken leak is fake(Which I highly doubt it is), Ken's still just 'a guy'.


Incineroar has a lot of awkward parts to get to look just right.

 

[JustCallMeJon]

Give me your reactions to the following character reveals:
Incineroar
Elma
Isaac
Chorus Kids
Geno
Dante
Leon Kennedy
Dragon Quest III Protagonist (Edrick was his name?)
Sora
Ryu Hayabusa

Little late but I gotta...
Incineroar: Shrugs
Elma: Cool
Isaac: Smiling and Clap for his fans
Chorus Kids: Prefer Karate Joe but its fine
Geno: *THROWS CHAIR IN EXCITMENT AND THROWS PARTY*
Dante: Shocked but happy
Leon Kennedy: YESSSS BABY! I AM WAITING FOR HIM FOR SO LONG!
DQ III: Expected but lil disappoint.
Sora: YESSS!!
Ryu Hayabusa: Who?
Shadow: YES!

 

[cothero]

Real talk, I'd absolutely be excited for Bill and Lance in Smash.

THAT would be pretty cool. One echoing another, just like Simon and Richie.

 

[War Anvil]

Right, my turn. How would you react to these newcomers?

Geno
Isaac
Shadow
Ken
Decidueye
Bandana Waddle Dee
Dante
Doomguy
Master Chief
Joker (Persona 5)

Cool!
Finally, he had such a huge glowup from Brawl.
Not Tails or a different SEGA character, but I can gel with it.
r a r e f o o t a g e o f d a i g o a c t u a l l y a n g r y
Yes! Best Alolan starter, here I come!
Speary boy~!
Now that's just a load of smokin' sick style.
Meh.
Meh, but Halo always seemed neat for whatever reason.
Meh.

 

[Idon]

I'm convinced that the reason that no one's done it is due to how complex he would be.

IF the Ken leak is fake(Which I highly doubt it is), Ken's still just 'a guy'.


Incineroar has a lot of awkward parts to get to look just right.

Honestly, Incineroar's gonna look awkward no matter what.
Have you seen the thing run?

YOU AINT A CAT, MAN.
YOU A CAT-MAN.

 

[TheMilkmann]

Right, my turn. How would you react to these newcomers?

Geno
Isaac
Shadow
Ken
Decidueye
Bandana Waddle Dee
Dante
Doomguy
Master Chief
Joker (Persona 5)

Geno- FHDKSFSELFWFEGGDGDG
Isaac- Still need to play Golden Sun
Shadow- Wish it would've been Metal Sonic but I'm not complaining
Ken- *no reaction*
Decidueye- Whats so good about him again?
Bandana Waddle Dee- Should've been Marx or another character of importance
Dante- Man I need to check out devil may cry
Doomguy- AKSSDKFDFD
Master Cheif- Sweet, can't wait to see a match with him and Samus
Joker- Who even

 

[Shroob]

Honestly, Incineroar's gonna look awkward no matter what.
Have you seen the thing run?

YOU AINT A CAT, MAN.
YOU A CAT-MAN.

Eh, I mean, looks about as awkward as K.Rool running on all fours.


Though I'm unsure if K.Rool's kingly 'trot' or him running like a savage animal is more strange.

 

[Luigi The President]

Honestly, Incineroar's gonna look awkward no matter what.
Have you seen the thing run?

YOU AINT A CAT, MAN.
YOU A CAT-MAN.

Oh god I hope this isn't how he runs lol

 

[CosmicQuark]

My icy heart is still cold, but I'd warm up to it only if Cosmog joins too.

 

[drag0nscythe]

My icy heart is still cold, but I'd warm up to it only if Cosmog joins too.

Cosmog?

I have only one final request (which is greedy given ridley.)
I only wish for Goemon.

 

[NineS]

I want you all to envision this in your mind right now.
Incineroar, with an orange palette swap with hints of blue...

Spoiler

They're GRRRRRRRREAT!

 

[Noipoi]

Honestly, Incineroar's gonna look awkward no matter what.
Have you seen the thing run?

YOU AINT A CAT, MAN.
YOU A CAT-MAN.

But have you seen him walk?

Dude's got swag.

 

[Idon]

Eh, I mean, looks about as awkward as K.Rool running on all fours.


Though I'm unsure if K.Rool's kingly 'trot' or him running like a savage animal is more strange.

Well the DK Crew have always been semi-animalistic, so it looks less out of place on top of the more ridiculous cartoony poportions.

No matter how you slice it, Incineroar's a full grown correctly proportioned DUDE. And dudes don't run like this. That's uncomfortable and it falls really hard into the uncanny valley.

 

[xAquaCrystal]

Honestly, Incineroar's gonna look awkward no matter what.
Have you seen the thing run?

YOU AINT A CAT, MAN.
YOU A CAT-MAN.

I’m not a huge Pokémon fan but that does look weird. I thought he would run on his two feet since he is so humanoid. Now it makes me wonder if he is in smash what is his running animation going to be.

 

[monadoboy]

Waluigi/Sephiroth fusion as the villain of Spirits mode

I'll take it if we get One Winged Angel in Smash. It's a crime against humanity it isn't. One of the most iconic songs in gaming and it isn't anywhere to be seen.

Ok yeah but...come on

No, Incineroar murdered my wife and took my children and my house

 

[Luigi The President]

I'll take it if we get One Winged Angel in Smash. It's a crime against humanity it isn't. One of the most iconic songs in gaming and it isn't anywhere to be seen.



No, Incineroar murdered my wife and took my children and my house

Yeah yeah but...come on

 

[Idon]

I’m not a huge Pokémon fan but that does look weird. I thought he would run on his two feet since he is so humanoid. Now it makes me wonder if he is in smash what is his running animation going to be.

I'm hoping it's just a really heavy Bowser style stomping.

 

[Noipoi]

I’m not a huge Pokémon fan but that does look weird. I thought he would run on his two feet since he is so humanoid. Now it makes me wonder if he is in smash what is his running animation going to be.

Probably on two legs like he's supposed to. I dunno why they decided to have him Gorilla walk in the movie, it looks so awkward.

 

[Gyrom8]

But have you seen him walk?
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Dude's got swag.

And have you seen this guy run? Xurkitree4smash

 

[Shroob]

And have you seen this guy run? Xurkitree4smash

The first thing that came to my mind seeing this:

 

[Noipoi]

And have you seen this guy run? Xurkitree4smash

I hope the Ultra Beasts are stage hazards or Pokeball summons. They should be represented.

 

[NineS]

Right, my turn. How would you react to these newcomers?

Geno
Isaac
Shadow
Ken
Decidueye
Bandana Waddle Dee
Dante
Doomguy
Master Chief
Joker (Persona 5)

Geno - Finally glad to see him in. Fans are gonna be really happy with the completion of the holy trinity. This was expected, though.
Isaac - Nice. Can't say I didn't see this coming, but a lot of people are going to be really happy!
Shadow - Glad to see him in, but... I would've preferred Metal Sonic.
Decidueye - What the hell, Vergeben? I genuinely didn't see this coming.
Bandana Waddle Dee - Player Four has finally joined the fight! Better luck next time, Marx.
Dante - I'm gonna need some time to processs this. . . I'm still in the right timeline, right?
Doomguy - I can't process this.
Master Chief - What in the world? What the heck? I'm so confused and hyped right now.
Joker - 10/10, great franchise, great video game, and really hope he's one of the better newcomers in terms of playstyle.

 

[Potato_]

I am a loyal owlboy and I will remain as one.

But Incineroar's okay. As is Primarina.

Don't mind which makes it in at this point.

 

[Iridium]

I hope the Ultra Beasts are stage hazards or Pokeball summons. They should be represented.

Going to need to see Lusamine too!

Spoiler

Now I think of Porky when I look at her...but why?

 

[alemerltoucanet]

But have you seen him walk?
View attachment 169925
Dude's got swag.

He's got TONS of swag!

 

[Gyrom8]

I hope the Ultra Beasts are stage hazards or Pokeball summons. They should be represented.

I can see three possibilities:
1. Along with poke balls and master balls, we now have beast balls for rare Ultra Beast summons
2. They're enemies in Spirits mode
3. They're stages hazards in a Gen 7 stage

It's suspicious how they're missing in action so far, given their importance to Gen 7. Makes me think Sakurai's got something planned for them.

 

[link2702]

I want you all to envision this in your mind right now.
Incineroar, with an orange palette swap with hints of blue...

Spoiler

They're GRRRRRRRREAT!

He’ll lay the smack down on you for skipping your balanced breakfast

 

[Noipoi]

Going to need to see Lusamine too!

Spoiler

Now I think of Porky when I look at her...but why?

I hope Mother Beast is a boss, but i'll accept her being a normal trophy.
Sun and Moon had some great human characters, it'd be a shame if they didn't get something.

 

[KMDP]

Incineroar, though? Smash has lacked a true grappler up until now.

Yes, indeed.

Out of all the characters in Smash with Command Grabs* () only one has more than one Command Grab in their movesets (Ganondorf), the rest shouldn't be considered Grapplers (Ganondorf is arguable).
*A "Command Grab" is any move that grabs the opponent that requires a Special move input and not the normal "Grab" input.

Let's look at a Grappler character from a recent fighter that a lot of people have played, Android 16.

Almost all of his Special Moves involve Grappling, specifically 11 out of a possible 14; both his Auto-Combos also include Grappling.

There are other characters in Dragon Ball FighterZ with Command Grabs (Future Trunks, Base Goku, Base Vegeta, Android 21, among others), but most of them aren't Grapplers because it isn't the focus of their playstyle.

Were Incineroar a Grappler (and he probably will be), most of his Specials would involve grabbing and either throwing or "dunking" his opponent.

 

[lightdrago]

Really hoping something comes out of this week. In about two days it will be exactly a month since we got info. Plus, it will be half past October and we’re all craving news.

Give me news Sakurai!

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Here's Mine. React to these guys

Min Min
Elma
Tap Trial Girl
Minecraft Steve
Crash Bandicoot
Incineroar
Mach Rider
Meowstic (don't ask)
CDI King

 

[monadoboy]

I hope the Ultra Beasts are stage hazards or Pokeball summons. They should be represented.

Buzzwole should playable

Were Incineroar a Grappler (and he probably will be), most of his Specials would involve grabbing

That sounds very annoying in Smash, more so if they grab through shields

 

[FalconFire93]

Give me your reactions to the following character reveals:
Incineroar
Elma
Isaac
Chorus Kids
Geno
Dante
Leon Kennedy
Dragon Quest III Protagonist (Edrick was his name?)
Sora
Ryu Hayabusa

Incineroar - Okay, he’s pretty cool I guess.
Elma - I like her design, she’s pretty cool.
Isaac - THE GOLDEN BOI IS IN!
Chorus Kids - They look fun.
Geno - *flips table* HE’S BACK AFTER ALL THIS TIME! YES!
Dante - Am I dreaming?
Leon Kennedy - Sweet.
DQ III - Cool, but who is he?
Sora - I thought it couldn’t be done, but it happened, it really happened.
Ryu Hayabusa - He’s the retro rep I wanted besides Simon, so I’m okay with this.

 

[KMDP]

That sounds very annoying in Smash, more so if they grab through shields

If they can grab through shields, they'd probably have lower priority than attacks, allowing you to deal with them.

Or they could just not grab through shields.

 

[Zinith]

All my responses to any newcomer that isn't Boshi, another Yoshi rep or Mike Jones will be "okay, cool"

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Give me your reactions to the following character reveals:
Incineroar
Elma
Isaac
Chorus Kids
Geno
Dante
Leon Kennedy
Dragon Quest III Protagonist (Edrick was his name?)
Sora
Ryu Hayabusa

Incineroar 10/10
Elma 10/10
Isaac 2/10
Chorus Kids 10/10
Geno 7/10
Dante 4/10
Leon Kennedy 5/10
Edrick 5/10
Sora 5/10
Ryu Hayabusa 8/10

Overall 6.5/10