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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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AzureFlame4

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Real talk though, Goku being the most talked about non-video game character is a very Western thing considering One Piece is the biggest manga in Japan. Granted it's probably due to the length of it that it has more sales, but if Nintendo went down that rabbit hole with Smash I wouldn't be surprised to see Luffy happen before Goku. (And that's when I'd check out of Smash anyway)
 

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I'm still waiting for a Shonen Jump Fighter with the same amount of quality as Dragon Ball FighterZ.
 

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Hmm, let me see if I can take a crack at it. I'm including characters that have never been in any pervious Smash games.
Smash Roster:
  1. Mario
  2. Luigi
  3. Peach
  4. Bowser
  5. Geno
  6. Donkey Kong
  7. Diddy Kong
  8. King K Rool
  9. Link
  10. Zelda
  11. Ganondorf
  12. Samus
  13. Ridley
  14. Sylux
  15. Pit
  16. Fox
  17. Pikachu
  18. Mewtwo
  19. Sceptile
  20. Lucario
  21. Geninja
  22. Kirby
  23. Meta Knight
  24. King Dedede
  25. Bandana Waddle Dee
  26. Marth
  27. Hector
  28. Robin
  29. Rex & Pyra
  30. Inkling
  31. Spring Man
  32. Wario
  33. Waluigi
  34. Isaac
  35. Ness
  36. Captain Falcon
  37. Ice Climbers
  38. Mr Game and Watch
  39. R.O.B
  40. Little Mac

  1. Goku
  2. Vegeta
  3. Gohan
  4. Piccolo
  5. Trunks
  6. Frieza
  7. Beerus
  8. Luffy
  9. Zoro
  10. Sanji
  11. Sabo
  12. Blackbeard
  13. Naruto
  14. Sauske
  15. Sakura
  16. Kakashi
  17. Madara
  18. My Hero Acadamia Protagonist
  19. My Hero Acadamia Rival
  20. My Hero Acadamia's Blond Hair Man (I forgot their names lol)
  21. Ichigo
  22. Rukia
  23. Aizen
  24. Gon
  25. Killua
  26. Kurapkia
  27. Hisoka
  28. Yuske
  29. Heih
  30. Kurama
  31. Toguro
  32. Medaka
  33. Jospeh Joestar
  34. Jotaro Kujo
  35. Diamond Is Unbreakable Jojo (forgot his name)
  36. DIO
  37. Tsuna (Hitman Reborn Character)
  38. Gintoki (Gintama)
  39. Kenshiro (Fist of the North Star)
  40. Raho (Fist of the North Star)
What do you think?
That's pretty good actually. I'd be down for that roster. Gonna steal it from you. :p

Of course not without a few being replaced too.
 

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Okay, I'm getting really ****ing sick of the "there are more posts to display" notification erasing my **** and denying my ability to contribute to conversations in a timely relevant manner, so I'm going to force myself to only post here when I have cute little minigame ideas for ya'll, or when I have complete fever-dream-stupid ideas... LIKE THIS ONE:

What if the mystery mode... was actually just an MMO Metroidvania set in a fully explorable 2D interpretation of all the Nintendo worlds like Hyrule, Zebes, Dreamland, etc. the entire time?

How would you feel upon discovering this?

Please don't go around accusing people of trolling or being alt accounts. If the case exists, the moderation will take care of it. Just respond only to their posts(and the actual content posted) or don't respond it general otherwise.

Keep in mind if it's an alt account, we have to clean up other messes. Accusations also can be considered attacking another user, and that's not good either. Think of how it feels to see people accused of things and how they may feel if they're seriously another person. Doesn't feel good, right? That's why we don't want people doing this kind of thing here. Just report or reply in good faith and we'll handle it.
Has anyone ever noticed how FirestormNeos FirestormNeos and FirestormNeos FirestormNeos are never in the same thread?

 
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I'm still waiting for a Shonen Jump Fighter with the same amount of quality as Dragon Ball FighterZ.
Bruh, same here. That new Jump Force game looks boring. I wish Arc Systems would make a Shonen Crossover Fighter. It'd be amazing.
 

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My boi would still get in that crossover. Don't forget about him...
If such a crossover occurred. There's no doubt Yoshi would be getting in. He's one of the most popular and recognizable Mario characters and why wouldn't he be? Who doesn't like the lovable friendly dinosaur?
 

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He would because hes more iconic no1 knows chrono as much as Goku.
Well no durr more people know Goku than Crono that's like saying more people know Mario than, say, Yusuke Urameshi. Regardless of how iconic Goku is, at least for now, Smash is considered by both the community at large and as far as I can tell the people who make it to be a celebration of Nintendo/Gaming history. Goku's popularity wasn't forged in games, it was forged as a jugernaut of an anime/manga character. Sorry but regardless of Goku's history in games, nothing changes the fact that his games aren't what made him popular, his popularity got his games made. Crono on the other hand, is the star of of one the Super Nintendos most impactful, critically acclaimed, and historic games, and it wouldn't be impossible to argue the most. I'm just saying as someone who loves Chrono Trigger and appreciates it's place in gaming history, it would kinda suck to have a character who got games through popularity gained elsewhere before him
 

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Also Rayman



Why model the hands for rigging if he's just going to be a static trophy?

Why model him at all really?
remember
Ubisoft sent the model
they were probably getting their hopes up last game i bet
 
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For real though, this talk about a "Smash vs Jump" crossover game has got me thinking how it could work. I picture it would be a fusion between Smash and Jump Ultimate Stars in terms of gameplay. Any of you guys have any ideas?
 
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For real though, this talk about a "Smash vs Jump" crossover game has got me thinking how it could work. I picture it would be a fusion between Smash and Jump Ultimate Stars in terms of gameplay. Any of you guys have any ideas?
It'd be a hybrid of Dragon Ball Fighterz and Smash Bros. Melee. A new director would helm the game, and Sakurai would act as a supervisor for movesets.

But what would the roster look like I wonder?
I'm using this as a base for Shonen Jump series. If this is wrong, please let me know.

We'll assume 50 characters, which is a reasonable amount for a new crossover game. There are 25 Nintendo and 25 Shonen Jump characters. Nintendo somehow gets Sonic in they're best buddies with Sega, but doesn't get Pokemon because the Pokemon Company doesn't like fun crossovers.

Nintendo
  • Mario :ultmario:
  • Luigi :ultluigi:
  • Peach :ultpeach:
  • Bowser :ultbowser:
  • Yoshi :ultyoshi:
  • Sonic :ultsonic:
  • Samus :ultsamus:
  • Link :ultlink:
  • Zelda/Sheik :ultzelda:/:ultsheik:
  • Ganondorf :ultganondorf:
  • Shulk :ultshulk:
  • Villiager :ultvillager:
  • Kirby :ultkirby:
  • King Dedede :ultkingdedede:
  • Donkey Kong :ultdk:
  • Marth :ultmarth:
  • Robin :ultrobin
  • Inkling :ultinkling:
  • Spring Man
  • Ness :ultness:
  • Captain Falcon :ultfalcon:
  • Pit :ultpit:
  • Isaac
    (I'm assuming we'll get a Golden Sun revival at some point soon)
  • Mr. Game & Watch: :ultgnw:
  • Rhythm Girl
Shonen Jump (they don't get cool stock icons because those don't exist):
  • Naruto Uzumaki (Naruto Shippuden)
  • Sasuke Uchiha (Naruto Shippuden)
  • Kakashi Hitake (Naruto Shippuden)
  • Goku (Dragon Ball Super)
  • Vegeta (Dragon Ball Super)
  • Frieza (Dragon Ball Super)
  • Monkey D. Luffy (One Piece)
  • Sanji Vismoke (One Piece)
  • Roronoa Zoro (One Piece)
  • Gon Freecss (Hiatus x Hiatus Hunter x Hunter)
  • Hisoka Morroh (Hunter x Hunter)
  • Ichigo Kurosaki (Bleach)
  • Aizen Sōken (Bleach)
  • Jotaro Kujo (Jojo's Bizarre Adventure)
  • Joseph Joestar (Jojo's Bizarre Adventure)
  • Dio Brando (Jojo's Bizarre Adventure)
  • Izuku Midorya (My Hero Academia)
  • Bakugo Katsuki (My Hero Academia)
  • Shouto Todoroki (My Hero Academia)
  • Yugi Moto (Yu-gi-oh)
  • Kenshiro (Fist of the North Star)
  • Koro-sensai (Assassination Classroom)
  • Sōma Yukihari (Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Soma)
  • Light Yagami (Death Note)
  • Gintoki (Gintama)
I did way too much research for this.
 
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I haven't played enough Jump games to be able to get a good idea of how a "smash vs jump" would hypothetically work, something like that would be pretty cool, if not a little surreal
 

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Nintendo:
  1. Mario
  2. Luigi
  3. Peach
  4. Bowser
  5. Yoshi
  6. Wario
  7. Donkey Kong
  8. Diddy Kong
  9. King K. Rool
  10. Link
  11. Zelda
  12. Ganondorf
  13. Samus
  14. Ridley
  15. Pit
  16. Palutena
  17. Fox
  18. Pikachu
  19. Mewtwo
  20. Lucario
  21. Kirby
  22. Meta Knight
  23. King Dedede
  24. Bandana Dee
  25. Marth
  26. Roy
  27. Lucina
  28. Ike
  29. Shulk
  30. Rex & Pyra
  31. Inkling
  32. Spring Man
  33. Ribbon Girl
  34. Isaac
  35. Ness
  36. Captain Falcon
  37. Ice Climbers
  38. Mr. Game and Watch
  39. R.O.B
  40. Little Mac
Shonen Jump:

  1. Goku
  2. Vegeta
  3. Gohan
  4. Piccolo
  5. Trunks
  6. Frieza
  7. Beerus
  8. Luffy
  9. Zoro
  10. Sanji
  11. Trafalgar Law
  12. Blackbeard
  13. Naruto
  14. Sasuke
  15. Sakura
  16. Kakashi
  17. Orochimaru
  18. Midoriya
  19. Bakugou
  20. All-Might
  21. Todoroki
  22. Ichigo
  23. Rukia
  24. Aizen
  25. Gon
  26. Killua
  27. Kurapika
  28. Hisoka
  29. Yusuke
  30. Hiei
  31. Kurama
  32. Kuwabara
  33. Medaka
  34. Joseph Joestar
  35. Jotaro Kujo
  36. DIO
  37. Tsuna (Hitman Reborn Character)
  38. Gintoki (Gintama)
  39. Kenshiro (Fist of the North Star)
  40. Raho (Fist of the North Star)

Thanks to Alastor for the help!
 
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So if such a game were to be made guys who would be your main?

Mine would be.

Nintendo: King K. Rool (Assuming he got in otherwise Bowser then)
Shonen Jump: Deku
 
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Capcom already has Marvel. Nintendo deserves to crossover with something and that's Shonen Jump.
Yes...Nintendo "deserves" to have to spend half their development resources making characters for some other company as a promotional stunt because people won't buy their game otherwise...
 

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Can't source because Source Gaming is still dead but I'd like to remind you all that Sakurai compared Goku to freaking Spongebob at one point in terms of absurd character suggestions and laughed about it.
i have it, no worries
Sakurai laughs at non-''original vidya'' ****.png

and a bonus, that i found long ago
Gokek.png
 

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Yes...Nintendo "deserves" to have to spend half their development resources making characters for some other company as a promotional stunt because people won't buy their game otherwise...
Dude!!!! Imagine how much such a game would sell though!!!! Nintendo and Shonen Jump (Probably the most popular manga company) together? I couldn't even count the sales on that!

I'm honestly surprised Nintendo hasn't done such a thing yet and I think as new approach after Ultimate this is what they should do next.
 

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Ah, yes, Spooky Time. My favorite time of the year...

to be an introvert and not do anything.

I REALLY don't like Halloween, lol.
 
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and a bonus, that i found long ago
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That second one is grossly exaggerated.
Even if he said "King K. Rool is next, right?", they would have laughed.
Because the character is a hot topic and they would be unable to either confirm or deny.

And Trinen laughed at Ridley in the same article despite actually being in the game.

Laughing, contrary to popular belief, isn't JUST used to mock. I mean, the one asking the question was outright cracking a joke. The proper response would be to laugh.
 
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So if such a game were to be made guys who would be your main?

Mine would be.

Nintendo: King K. Rool (Assuming he got in otherwise Bowser then)
Shonen Jump: Deku
Marth has been and always will be my main.

But you can sure as hell find me playing my boy Deku. The absolute ****in’ madman himself.
 

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I don't know why people want characters like Goku and Spongebob in Smash, Sakurai's aware of this, that was the reason he added Mii Fighters

https://www.polygon.com/2014/6/19/5824064/mii-fighters-super-smash-bros-brawl-sakurai

4th Party Characters will NEVER HAPPEN

Yes, you might argue, ROB or any Pokemon that debuted in movies are 4th party but ROB made it in because of the legacy he made in the gaming industry after the 1983 video game crash and Lucario made it in because Gamefreak has a VIP thing for Pokemon newcomers, how Greninja made it in, overall i wouldn't consider Lucario as 4th Party as he was created by Gamefreak all Pokemon reps are 2nd Party.
 
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I don't know why people want characters like Goku and Spongebob in Smash, Sakurai's aware of this, that was the reason he added Mii Fighters

https://www.polygon.com/2014/6/19/5824064/mii-fighters-super-smash-bros-brawl-sakurai

4th Party Characters will NEVER HAPPEN

Yes, you might argue, ROB or any Pokemon that debuted in movies are 4th party but ROB made it in because of the legacy he made in the gaming industry after the 1983 video game crash and Lucario made it in because Gamefreak has a VIP thing for Pokemon newcomers, how Greninja made it in, overall i wouldn't consider Lucario as 4th Party as he was created by Gamefreak all Pokemon reps are 2nd Party.
4th party is a dumb made up name. Characters like Mickey and Goku are still 3rd party characters.
 

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But yeah, if we get 2 characters this week, blog theory is looking pretty dire.


Granted, it's about damn time. We should have gotten most of these items/assists back in August/late September; now they're going to use October as their dumping ground for playing Direct catch-up.
Why would we get two characters this week?
 

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I don't know why people want characters like Goku and Spongebob in Smash, Sakurai's aware of this, that was the reason he added Mii Fighters

https://www.polygon.com/2014/6/19/5824064/mii-fighters-super-smash-bros-brawl-sakurai

4th Party Characters will NEVER HAPPEN

Yes, you might argue, ROB or any Pokemon that debuted in movies are 4th party but ROB made it in because of the legacy he made in the gaming industry after the 1983 video game crash and Lucario made it in because Gamefreak has a VIP thing for Pokemon newcomers, how Greninja made it in, overall i wouldn't consider Lucario as 4th Party as he was created by Gamefreak all Pokemon reps are 2nd Party.
There's a certain irony to saying "4th party" characters will never happen when linking to an article that's all about how Sakurai immediately decided against a character for one game only to reconsider the idea at a later time.
 

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There's a certain irony to saying "4th party" characters will never happen when linking to an article that's all about how Sakurai immediately decided against a character for one game only to reconsider the idea at a later time.
James Bond, am i right, he was cut due to copyright purposes along with Banjo-Kazooie. James Bond was considered at 64 but scrapped then a thought again at Melee but also scrapped.
 
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Real talk though, Goku being the most talked about non-video game character is a very Western thing considering One Piece is the biggest manga in Japan. Granted it's probably due to the length of it that it has more sales, but if Nintendo went down that rabbit hole with Smash I wouldn't be surprised to see Luffy happen before Goku. (And that's when I'd check out of Smash anyway)
Reminder that I'll support this till I die:
Alright, I'm gonna bring the hottest of hot takes ever:
If anime ever got a representative in Smash, Goku would not be the first one to represent it.

Now you're thinking I lost it. Goku's like the big boy of the big boy of anime, how could I say this? What if I told you that a company that already has the most third party reps in the game (right now) has one that's adored on a similar scale both East and West?

Did you forget Konami owns the rights to most of View attachment 161434?

Yeah, you heard me right. The only thing Konami doesn't own is the manga itself (Shueisha's *****). But the anime? The card game? The video games for the anime? The video games for the card game? The video games for the anime of the card games? They own all of it. Partially thanks to 4Kids, because after they went bankrupt, Konami swooped in and took all of that sweet sweet Western distribution rights to own the anime's dub, the one thing they couldn't own at the time.

Yu-Gi-Oh is ****ing big, it's in the trio of card game kings among the Pokemon TCG and Magic the Gathering. The anime is also just as large, one of the longest going card game anime of all time. And if it ain't Konami, it ain't with its own large gacha mobile game that panders to nostalgia just as hard as Game Freak does with Pokemon. It's adorned globally, though we all know it's less than Dragon Ball, I do have an argument to present. Gaining the ability to use it would be so much easier than trying to bargain with Toei to get Dragon Ball. I'll just leave you with that thought.

so yeah yugi for smash i guess
or maybe not
how about just dan green and eric stuart echo for smash
 

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Well it's October at last.

And the "new" tag is still on the website so we may not get a direct this month!

That was your first spook, for free.
 
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