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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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KingofKoopas

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That won't help.
Fortnite is far out of reach onto the project plan for Ultimate.
You got to remember what was hot in 2015.
Well thats sort of the point, what was hot then will not be hot at the time Smash is released, and having a character in just to appeal to the kids playing whatever that is now would kind of be pointless cuz they'll have moved onto something else.
 

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What fairly-to-super-obscure characters would you guys be most excited to see in Smash?

I mentioned him in passing a while back, but the Ninja from I-Ninja would make me pretty stoked.

In addition, Jenosa Arma from Scourge Hive (the definitely not Metroid Fusion game) would be killer.
If we're going to go into characters that aren't even Nintendo anymore, then I'm going to say I reaaaaally want Raidou Kuzunoha the XIV, Devil Summoner, The Protector of the Capital, the Taisho Period's finest swordsman, the Yatagarasu's chosen, yada yada, you get the point he's ****ING COOL.
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He's probably 3rd in my list of Megaten guys I want in Smash. Behind a tie between Demi-fiend and the SMT1 protagonist or Flynn.
 
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I feel like Goku and Master Chief are the only "out there" external characters who could someday work directly by virtue of how iconic they are. (In exactly the same way as Cloud, though these two are much more "out there" than he was.)

Mario vs. Sonic
Link vs. Cloud
Samus vs. Master Chief
Goku vs. Any of the Above

Smash is the playground argument given life, and these were the ultimate, be-all-end-all playground arguments. Our parents had Batman vs. Superman and Marvel Anyone vs. DC Anyone, but this was the form of our wars.
Whole i agree someday having the chief would be cool even for someone who dislikes the xbox, Goku would ruin what Smash was, and what it has become.

A Celebration of Nintendo that became a Celebration of Gaming.


Goku is from a Manga. And more than that isnt jump force enough for unirionic Goku fans, sheesh. Also WHEN AM I GETTING JOJO'S IN JUMP FORCE!!!
 

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Well thats sort of the point, what was hot then will not be hot at the time Smash is released, and having a character in just to appeal to the kids playing whatever that is now would kind of be pointless cuz they'll have moved onto something else.
Minecraft is still pretty popular tho.
 

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So, it has plugs to connect it to the Switch and a charging cable too. I'm getting that right, right? That's okay.
Yeah, it comes with a usb c cable which can plug into a USB port on your switch, or any usb power cube. But it doesn’t come with a power cube, only the cable.

Though the same usb c chord in a power cube can also charge your switch in handheld mode. So the cable is even more useful.
 

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I do have to wonder, if Sakurai chose an ARMS fighter to become playable, would he go with Springman (maybe with a Ribbon Girl echo fighter) as most assume? Yes, he's the Ken or Mario of ARMS, but he's also not especially interesting and the unique playstyle they could bring to Smash could pretty much be brought by any of the more memorable ARMS fighters. There's no precedent for a new series being represented by a character other than the one that's marketed as the main character, but does that mean Sakurai would turn down the likes of Helix, Master Mummy, Dr. Coyle, or even fan favorites like Twintelle or Min Min in favor of Springman? If the tradition of playable main characters representing their series were to ever be broken, I think ARMS would be the series it would happen with. As for how likely that is to happen, I'm honestly not sure, but it's something interesting to ponder.
 

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I do have to wonder, if Sakurai chose an ARMS fighter to become playable, would he go with Springman (maybe with a Ribbon Girl echo fighter) as most assume? Yes, he's the Ken or Mario of ARMS, but he's also not especially interesting and the unique playstyle they could bring to Smash could pretty much be brought by any of the more memorable ARMS fighters. There's no precedent for a new series being represented by a character other than the one that's marketed as the main character, but does that mean Sakurai would turn down the likes of Helix, Master Mummy, Dr. Coyle, or even fan favorites like Twintelle or Min Min in favor of Springman? If the tradition of playable main characters representing their series were to ever be broken, I think ARMS would be the series it would happen with. As for how likely that is to happen, I'm honestly not sure, but it's something interesting to ponder.
I just have beef with the popular Springman with RG Echo theory. The two are just...so different in so many ways. And I agree, Springman is kinda blah compared to the rest of the cast.

If not Twintelle, maybe Dr. Coyle for Smash’s first unique female villain.

and I keep flip flopping on the 8th unique sorry;; can’t decide between Heihachi or KOS-MOS, or skimping on a third Bamco rep altogether and making Shantae the 8th DLC unique cause tbh I’d prefer her as the indie rep over Steve (who’s TECHNICALLY indie)
 
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Yeah but not among a lot of kids I noticed, its got its fans but they been there for awhile mostly.

Its like i said though Trends come and go but TF2 is Forever.
"TF2 is forever"


What, with all the trade sites closing down and Valve not giving a **** about it for...how long?


I love TF2, it holds some of my fondest gaming memories, but Valve wants that ship to sink.
 

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It's more that the people who played Minecraft and FNAF some years ago are now older. Fortnite is still to be seen how big it become, but seriously, Minecraft was something huge. I got a little cousin who is a huge Minecraft fan, is still popular in schools and such.
 

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What fairly-to-super-obscure characters would you guys be most excited to see in Smash?

I mentioned him in passing a while back, but the Ninja from I-Ninja would make me pretty stoked.

In addition, Jenosa Arma from Scourge Hive (the definitely not Metroid Fusion game) would be killer.
I'm not sure if it's necessarily obscure considering how much the franchise has sold over the years, but Bella Goth from The Sims. Greatest WTF character ever.
 

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Minecraft is absurdly big, and it's aimless to debate otherwise.

Of course, that has screw-all to do with Smash, as evidenced by the curious lack of Call of Duty, Angry Birds, and Kardashian content in Smash 4.

Can we please talk about Smash Bros again?
 
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"TF2 is forever"


What, with all the trade sites closing down and Valve not giving a **** about it for...how long?


I love TF2, it holds some of my fondest gaming memories, but Valve wants that ship to sink.
They dont got the balls. Besides no reason to until they make a sequel and Valve is allergic to the number 3.
 

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I do have to wonder, if Sakurai chose an ARMS fighter to become playable, would he go with Springman (maybe with a Ribbon Girl echo fighter) as most assume? Yes, he's the Ken or Mario of ARMS, but he's also not especially interesting and the unique playstyle they could bring to Smash could pretty much be brought by any of the more memorable ARMS fighters. There's no precedent for a new series being represented by a character other than the one that's marketed as the main character, but does that mean Sakurai would turn down the likes of Helix, Master Mummy, Dr. Coyle, or even fan favorites like Twintelle or Min Min in favor of Springman? If the tradition of playable main characters representing their series were to ever be broken, I think ARMS would be the series it would happen with. As for how likely that is to happen, I'm honestly not sure, but it's something interesting to ponder.
Lola Pop with a Lanky Kong echo.
 

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They dont got the balls. Besides no reason to until they make a sequel and Valve is allergic to the number 3.
I mean, they're doing a bang up job of killing it by not doing anything at all. Actions speak louder than words, and development on the game has gotten less and less as time goes on.... We haven't gotten a single major update this year, period.


The community is collapsing in on itself, and if the trading scene dies, the game will die, there's really not much to it. Competitive is a joke and casuals are full of hackers.
 
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And here's all of the ending screens:


They're a handful. Some of them look cool (Link, Pikachu, Samus), and some look stupid (DK, Yoshi). I still don't get Yoshi's, or why it looks like he just died.
God these were cool. I love Ness's.

Also, Yoshi's was a clear Yoshi's Story reference. It was the big Yoshi property of the time.
 

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God these were cool. I love Ness's.

Also, Yoshi's was a clear Yoshi's Story reference. It was the big Yoshi property of the time.
Eh, I just don't get what exactly is happening in Yoshi's still though, and it irks me.

DK's offers...a less than satisfactory view, and a face that stares into my soul. Yeah, these were great to find.
 

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Boy I cant wait for the final smash direct to happen and all watch the dumpster fire that gonna happen when people didnt get there favorite Chracther in smash ulitmate and gonna be salty for a few weeks
 

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This is might be a bit but thanks for the messages. It was quite the typhoon and I ended up staying up most of the night. Thankfully, the things I secured didn’t blow away but a part of our roof tiling flew off, we have a cracked window, someone’s bicycle in front of our door, and a tree that fell outside our house and about 8 feet from where our cars are.

Apparently, there will be another typhoon possibly at the end of the week >,<
 

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Eh, I just don't get what exactly is happening in Yoshi's still though, and it irks me.

DK's offers...a less than satisfactory view, and a face that stares into my soul. Yeah, these were great to find.
I think he's climbing back into the book, hence why he's on the cover.

DK's looks like a bad forum signature from the early 2000s, or a high school PowerPoint slide. It makes me laugh.
 

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This is might be a bit but thanks for the messages. It was quite the typhoon and I ended up staying up most of the night. Thankfully, the things I secured didn’t blow away but a part of our roof tiling flew off, we have a cracked window, someone’s bicycle in front of our door, and a tree that fell outside our house and about 8 feet from where our cars are.

Apparently, there will be another typhoon possibly at the end of the week >,<
Glad to hear you are ok, Venus.
 

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Being a reference to something doesn't suddenly fix their awful design tho

Those hands looks like a kid drew them. That ugly red neckbeard looks awful and they looks like they skip leg day since they were born. Incineroar is one of those Pokemon that the more I see the less they look like a Pokemon. How they went from Litten to this...thing is beyond me. I really can't stomach this design. The in-game model in SM is even worse. I very rarely dislike a design (I even like Rex's design) but this? I can't, it's Barbaracle/Simipour/Mr. Mime levels of bad without Mr. Mime's charms. Sorry to those who like Incineroar. If the hands weren't such an aberration, and their face looked like a face instead of a cat/octopus hybrid stuck in a bodybuilder I'd love it.

If they do get in I hope the moveset's beyond fantastic to make up for losing Decidueye, Lycanroc and all the amazing gen 7 Pokemon for this thing.
Subjective. Cuz Competitive play has colored my perception.

Seven overall is super mixed, the goods are GOOD and the bads are really BAD. Like you can't even make a comprehensive strat for them, bad.
 
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This is might be a bit but thanks for the messages. It was quite the typhoon and I ended up staying up most of the night. Thankfully, the things I secured didn’t blow away but a part of our roof tiling flew off, we have a cracked window, someone’s bicycle in front of our door, and a tree that fell outside our house and about 8 feet from where our cars are.

Apparently, there will be another typhoon possibly at the end of the week >,<
Try to keep calm and be prepared, Hurricane/Typhoon season is real tough but the worst thing to do is to panic. And as long as you and your loved ones werent hurt that should be what matters most. Glad to see you are ok and hopefully whatevers coming at the end of the week will fizzle out over cold seas.
 

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This is might be a bit but thanks for the messages. It was quite the typhoon and I ended up staying up most of the night. Thankfully, the things I secured didn’t blow away but a part of our roof tiling flew off, we have a cracked window, someone’s bicycle in front of our door, and a tree that fell outside our house and about 8 feet from where our cars are.

Apparently, there will be another typhoon possibly at the end of the week >,<
I'm glad you're okay.
Hope the next one isn't too bad.
 

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Seeing the Congratulations screens from Smash 64 made me realize that a concept art book in Smash Ultimate would be the coolest thing ever.
 

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Ironically, Incineroar has become amazing in Double battles, more or less becoming a flat out staple Pokemon according to the last top 16 from VGC.

Despite his bleh stat spread, Intimidate is ****ing strong, yo.
 

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Seeing the Congratulations screens from Smash 64 made me realize that a concept art book in Smash Ultimate would be the coolest thing ever.
A third of it would be concept art from other series, another third would be designs originally from Smash, and the last third would be Sakurai's sticky note doodles.
 

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Ironically, Incineroar has become amazing in Double battles, more or less becoming a flat out staple Pokemon according to the last top 16 from VGC.

Despite his bleh stat spread, Intimidate is ****ing strong, yo.
I dont much follow competitive Pokemon so may i ask where Decidueye is in ranking?
 

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Ironically, Incineroar has become amazing in Double battles, more or less becoming a flat out staple Pokemon according to the last top 16 from VGC.

Despite his bleh stat spread, Intimidate is ****ing strong, yo.
Abilities make the mon. Intimidate is evergreen its literally never bad and can be useful at any time. Also, its movepool ain't bad, decent coverage

I mean look at Water Bubble... No really, what is that?

Lol at Long Reach.
 

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I dont much follow competitive Pokemon so may i ask where Decidueye is in ranking?
Bad.

I'm not deep in competitive either, but I do know that Decidueye is really not good competitively.

You'll have to ask someone else for the specifics, though.
 
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