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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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Remember when the MVCI roster leaked and it was one of the first times in fighting game history where people were desperately wishing they didn't have information
KOF 14's entire roster was leaked in China before the game was properly announced, with pictures too.

Was ****ing weird lol.
 

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*Wakes up*



"Man, I wonder what's going on on Smashboards today!"

*Sees 50 pages since I went to bed*

"Huh, I wonder what ha---"



oh no

Oh No

OH NO



IT'S HAPPENING ISN'T IT?! THIS IS WHY I'VE BEEN SAYING OCTOBER DIRECT!
Lol I was wondering where you were, first time in a while we have something to talk about and you miss out.

Anyways I could totally see them pushing up some reveals if this guy has more info, in an effort to beat him to the punch.
 

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If/when any major leaks drop, please try to put them in spoilers so as not to ruin it for the people that do not want to know. Thanks.
 

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Yeah, most of these branches are small, except for the NoE HQ in Germany. Since this looks to be a development build, it's probably from NoE's localization team since they would need a developer build to alter text and they probably do some playtesting as well. The more playtesters in general, the better so it's safe to assume that they conduct gameplay tests in the American and European branches alongside localization since they could report bugs the Japanese team may overlook.

So yeah, Germany is the likeliest place this leak comes from. Someone might be getting fired, that's for sure.
NoE definitely has builds, since they have to make the European builds and coordinate EFIGS voice actors.
 

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I stayed for the ESRB leak when it happened, so I'll probably stay for this.
Regardless, if we do get something in the next 24 hours, it'll be hard to avoid it for two and a half months anyway.

Also this is my 2500th post. Yay.
 
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Not sure if people are joking or are actually serious about Mickey, Donald, and Goofy being added if Sora gets in, but have we forgotten that Sakurai only adds videogame characters and not cartoon or movie characters? Mickey, Donald, and Goofy will never be in the game.
 

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I just noticed that Pichu's mouth in the portrait is actually different than the one at E3 as well. heh.
Not sure if people are joking or are actually serious about Mickey, Donald, and Goofy being added if Sora gets in, but have we forgotten that Sakurai only adds videogame characters and not cartoon or movie characters? Mickey, Donald, and Goofy will never be in the game.
The Mouse is a special case. give us Geno though.
 
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Thing is, Street Fighter will have 36 songs this time.
My fear is that it will simply be the CPS1, CPS2, and remixed themes of the 12 characters in the Champion Edition roster. At least we'll get Guile's theme though, and Dictator and Claw's themes are pretty dope.

I mean, didn't Sakurai say in a column he let people pick and choose what pieces of music they wanted to remix/arrange? While the chances of there just being a whole lot of themes as you described, I have good faith that someone would've picked at least a 3S or 4 song to remix.
 

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Not sure if people are joking or are actually serious about Mickey, Donald, and Goofy being added if Sora gets in, but have we forgotten that Sakurai only adds videogame characters and not cartoon or movie characters? Mickey, Donald, and Goofy will never be in the game.
Sora don't even need them to be playable anyone saying they're NEEDED are wrong and probably never played a KH game.

The ULTRA MEGA BEST scenario we might get is Alt referencing them. or A SINGLE trophy. But that's it.


Mickey head on the keychain is probably the closest Disney **** we will get if he's ever in
 

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Played with the contrast to make his portrait more legible.
 

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All other factors aside, Mickey's rights are so hellish they have their own circle of hell, complete with demonic guardsmen and lakes of sulfur.

I know all of this pretty directly. Disney makes Square look like Yacht Club.
 

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if its sora im game but dont half *** it, have donald and goody join in for the final smash. Have King Mickey as an AT, have you visit the 100 acre wood in the spirtis mode. And ESPECIALLY add the ducktales moon theme
As much as I would love this to happen, it likely wouldn't. Sora would likely use his solo moves, which he still has a **** ton of, including Magic, Drives, Limits, Special Attacks (Strike Raid, Blitz, Ars Arcanum, etc.), Flow-Motion, and if we want to use KH3 Sora, Command Styles, Keyblade Transformations, and Shotlocks.

Our stage would be something KH-Original, like Destiny Islands, Twilight Town, The World That Never Was, the Keyblade Graveyard, or, in my opinion most likely, the Dive to the Heart.

Also we'd still get some bomb-ass music. Here's some of the best:
That's definitely a recreation of his SF III artwork isn't it?
If we assume that this is a debug build of the game, and is therefore in development, it's possible that they haven't completely finished work on him, and haven't finished his render either.
 
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Will keep saying this. But boy am I glad Vergeben had no info on King K. Rool, and he was never leaked. Only him and Ridley have been the unspoiled surprises.
 

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I mean, didn't Sakurai say in a column he let people pick and choose what pieces of music they wanted to remix/arrange? While the chances of there just being a whole lot of themes as you described, I have good faith that someone would've picked at least a 3S or 4 song to remix.
Yeah, he did. And the sound team particularly worked on several Mega Man and Castlevania songs.

One of the composers in particular did a lot of Fire Emblem arrangements, so we're definitely seeing a lot of music from that. I'm curious about who it is, but it's probably one of Intelligent Systems's sound team members.
 

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Hello, I'm back! Any updates on the Ken leak or anything else that might've popped up?
 

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Sora don't even need them to be playable anyone saying they're NEEDED are wrong and probably never played a KH game.

The ULTRA MEGA BEST scenario we might get is Alt referencing them. or A SINGLE trophy. But that's it.


Mickey head on the keychain is probably the closest Disney **** we will get if he's ever in
Exactly. Alt outfits referencing them and maybe a trophy with TOP SECRET would be the closest we'd get, and honestly I don't even think the trophy of Mickey is likely at all, since everyone on earth knows who that is
 

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Imagine Nintendo, dealing for EXCLUSIVE RIGHT to Nintendo themed Park with Universal

Only to make a deal with Disney to let them use and rearrange their Music and Use Mario for one of their movies.


Sneaky sneaky Nintendo.
 

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If we get a full roster leak I'll still be here. I dealt with it once and I'll deal with it again. I'll also be here to argue over it's legitimacy too.
Imagine Nintendo, dealing for EXCLUSIVE RIGHT to Nintendo themed Park with Universal

Only to make a deal with Disney to let them use and rearrange their Music and Use Mario for one of their movies.


Sneaky sneaky Nintendo.
Maybe they also arrange for Disney and Normura to also let them use Sora in Smash???

That's just my inner fanboy talking though.
 
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In regards to the music again, Sakurai's only kind of direction in the music for this game was to make it fit the pace of the game, so most new arrangements will be fast paced and upbeat (and so far, have been quite upbeat), but once again, it's the composers themselves that choose which pieces they get to arrange and in case a song doesn't get worked on by anyone, the original version is put in the game instead.

Although, as with previous Smash games, there likely will be songs available in both original and rearranged versions.
 
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Imagine Nintendo, dealing for EXCLUSIVE RIGHT to Nintendo themed Park with Universal

Only to make a deal with Disney to let them use and rearrange their Music and Use Mario for one of their movies.


Sneaky sneaky Nintendo.
Illumination is making a mario movie, having two out at once would be a bit confusing.
 

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i like the idea of Intern Man being a batman-like figure but instead of fighting crime, its ****ing up reveals.
"I AM THE ONE WHO BRINGS IN THE COFFEE! I AM THE ONE WHO STAYS LATE FOR LITTLE PAY! I AM THE ONE WHO UPDATES THE SITE A DAY EARLY!!!

I...AM...INTERN MAN!"

Intern-Man, 2099
 

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And where is Sora? Dude's definitely an icon.

You're seriously underestimating him dude. He was top 5 finalist in the first Dengeki Smash poll (a very large Japanese fan poll) and wasn't allowed in the second one because he likely would've won again. Dude was also in the top 5 of another large Japanese fan poll of characters expected to be in Smash Bros. Kingdom Hearts is massive, and definitely has more overall presence than Frogger, Ninja Gaiden, and I'd even say Layton (mind you, overall presence means worldwide presence, so while Layton may have more Japanese presence, Kingdom Hearts has more worldwide presence).
I just forgot about Sora. tehponycorn chill. :p

He's still on my radar in terms of DLC.
 
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He looks like he's about to wake up shoryu and cancel it into an Ultra.

Which means it's perfect.
Good thing Ryu can cancel specials into Final Smashes now. Combine that with the Final Smash meter, and Ken is actually playable.
 

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Will keep saying this. But boy am I glad Vergeben had no info on King K. Rool, and he was never leaked. Only him and Ridley have been the unspoiled surprises.
Let's not forget Inkling. Yeah they were obvious picks, but their reveal was still a delightful surprise because we didn't even know if there was going to be a new Smash at the time.
 
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