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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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You only win if Etika and Alpharad makes a video on it. THEN it counts for clickbait. :4pacman:
If I put a spray painted bush on my head and scream for 5 minutes while the image is in the corner of the screen, does that count as Etika?

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Mega Man doesn't belong there. DK has a massive arcade legacy that's perpetuated by the Country series (which sells better than Mega-Man, Yoshi, Pac-Man and modern Sonic) and his near perfect attendance in any Mario spin-off. There is no comparison. Everyone and their Grandma knows DK.
To add to that, Ryu and Cloud are also both more iconic characters than Mega Man. Ryu himself is the biggest character Capcom has.
 

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The Ken model looking "ugly" means nothing as imo he's always really ugly and Japanese animators like making over exaggerated Americans. So he could just be that ugly lol.

Interesting, it would help if they leaked something else too. Even if this is real I don't think many were doubting Ken at this point. I was even on board with him now.
 

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The Ken model looking "ugly" means nothing as imo he's always really ugly and Japanese animators like making over exaggerated Americans. So he could just be that ugly lol.

Interesting, it would help if they leaked something else too. Even if this is real I don't think many were doubting Ken at this point. I was even on board with him now.
Incineroar when though...
 

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It honestly looks pretty good. A single still image that's a closeup of one character is way too little to give it much truth value, but the fact it's an original render that looks that professional and has the proper poly count make me willing to believe it. Would not be surprised if this is legit, but let's see if this 'leaker' may make the same mistake as others always do and post something of notably lower quality.
 
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That's true. However I'll go as far as to say that Making a Smash Ultimate model with the Moray Tower is probably more difficult than usual. Especially since the Moray stage give a peculiar lighting to Characters.

No one said it's real.

People Dont Say it's fake yet though.


That's the difference.
But yet people said the exact same thing when the Palutena Hoax made the rounds, and I would say trying to replicate everything from the compressed 3DS quality and Smash 3DS's character lining is more difficult than having to take in account for replicating an engine where you don't have those technical limitations. Like this can easily be passed off as real, but it was a hoax. We might just be dealing with the exact same situation as with Ken.

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Woomy Land.
Shoulda gone with Woomy World.

Anyways, the design of Ken makes sense because of how Simon and Pac-Man look in Smash. Wasn't there a rumor that Sakurai outright told Namco that he'd totally skip over Pac-Man if they insisted on his Ghostly Adventures look? This is also why I believe that, if Banjo makes it, they'll likely do the original design and pretend Nuts and Bolts never happened.
 

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But yet people said the exact same thing when the Palutena Hoax made the rounds, and I would say trying to replicate everything from the compressed 3DS quality and Smash 3DS's character lining is more difficult than having to take in account for replicating an engine where you don't have those technical limitations. Like this can easily be passed off as real, but it was a hoax. We might just be dealing with the exact same situation as with Ken.

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Once again.
I never said it was real.
Never said it was fake.

Being in the gray scale can be an option sometimes.
 

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if ken is from something printed...

not saying the prima leak is real but its possible some printed info is out there, we could get more.
 

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>Plausible Smash leak
>New Pokemon leak

Someone hook Nintendo up with that Flex Seal...
That reminds me... of this... (Pretty sure this is an official Tweet by Flex Seal...)
 

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I concur that if the ken leak turned fake, it was done by a profesional that knew exactly was it was doing.... so far there is nothing to discredit it as a fake. even the way the shader work on ken feels very "ultimate"
 
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Once again.
I never said it was real.
Never said it was fake.

Being in the gray scale can be an option sometimes.
Right, but seeing people already get on that sweet train of trying to make people believe it's real is what gets me urked. Pretty sad we live in a more clickbaity society. rise up
 

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if ken is from something printed...

not saying the prima leak is real but its possible some printed info is out there, we could get more.
I refuse to believe the Prima Leak for the simple basis that there no ****ing way as optimistic as possible that we get so many Characters left. Echoes or not. Box or Not.

We're on the last stretch. Around 80days for almost 10characters?
 

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for guys saying that KEN is ugly in this picture...
i always though ken face is weird in EVERY picture or video i see of him.

so it's not a good argument :p

( i'm kidding but blonde hair with black eyebrows is always weird... you can tell my ex girlfriend about it )
 
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I refuse to believe the Prima Leak for the simple basis that there no ****ing way as optimistic as possible that we get so many Characters left. Echoes or not. Box or Not.

We're on the last stretch. Around 80days for almost 10characters?
not saying it's true but...never though that we would have had 5 characters in 1 direct too...
 

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Right now, I'm only expecting Incineroar and Ken on base roster. Any other characters, rumored or otherwise, are DLC at this point.

I think we might see Minecraft content in the base game, but Steve might be DLC, announced alongside the 2nd Square Enix character.
 

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not saying it's true but...never though that we would have had 5 characters in 1 direct too...
Do you really believe that we will get 19 newcomers (in total with echoes) with 11 unique newcomers in total for 8echoes for Ultimate base game?

C'mon. That's waaay too much... I can be VERY optimistic but that's way too impossible
 
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That design seems very off to me personally
Serebii usually doesn't tweet pokemon news unless he's confident about it though. It usually remains a rumor in the leak section until better verified, then he'll actually post about it.
 

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I'm a big Cloud fan and even I'm going to need some convincing here.
FF7 itself has more of a cultural impact in the gaming world than any Mega Man game has and Cloud himself is Mr. JRPG with tons of merchandise, popular mobile game appearances, presence in Kingdom Hearts (with is definitely significant as it further helped him reach an audience beyond those who grew up playing FF7) and pop culture references. Advent Children also helps Cloud's case given it's one of the most successful video game to movie adaptations (regardless of the movie's reception) which counts for something.

Mega Man himself has no real advantages over Cloud when it comes to icon status.
 

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Man, I hope the source of the picture posts something interesting that contradicts the verg/box combo...

That reminds me... of this... (Pretty sure this is an official Tweet by Flex Seal...)
Yeah, I stole their joke :^)
 

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regarding prima, as much as i would glee over solaire of astoria as an AT... no mention of dillon (see no reason for him not retruning as an AT, unless is playable) **** tons of newcomers... and vaultboy over doom or skyrim character seems fishy...

a lot of people say that this has been confirmed fake... what was the reason? it was the poster birthday? or something more relevant?
 

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Say what you will about compression, it being close up, etc;

If this is fake, this would genuinely be the most impressive fake leak I've ever seen.

Like, wow. They really nailed the lighting and model perfectly, also having an up close of Moray Towers with Pac-Man's taunt in the side of it.. that takes a lot of effort to stage IMHO.
 
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[QUOTE="Lyndis_, post: 22461275, member: 396099”]
If this is fake, this would genuinely be the most impressive fake leak I've ever seen.
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You should check out the Rayman leak then
 

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[QUOTE="Lyndis_, post: 22461275, member: 396099”]
If this is fake, this would genuinely be the most impressive fake leak I've ever seen.
You should check out the Rayman leak then
Even the Rayman leak had Inconsistencies...
This Ken one doesn't even seem to have any...
 
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