Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Potato_]

Has this been discussed yet?
http://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/432174058

He says he's gonna show the footage either tonight or tomorrow.

Nope but I've also been keeping tabs on it.

Most likely won't show much but eh. Might as well see.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Has this been discussed yet?
http://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/432174058

He says he's gonna show the footage either tonight or tomorrow.

Yeah, it has been mentioned...
One Side of me hopes it's real because Chorus Kids, But I know it's likely fake because it mentions Skull Kid (Who is basically deconfirmed because of the Music Theory,)

 

[Pyra]

Has this been discussed yet?
http://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/432174058

He says he's gonna show the footage either tonight or tomorrow.

doubt.jpg
Would be interesting, but it's really easy to just say that.

Does this mean Villager is the Once-Ler

STOP THIS AT ONCE

 

[Will]

I still don't believe Verg if he believes something that I also believe in.
But if Steve, does get in, despite all the odds,

****ing called it and told you so, Verg has nothing on me.

But that's early celebration I can't say if Microsoft content is even coming.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

God I can't see anything but the Lorax in the Isabelle logo anymore.

Spoiler

Sorry if you see it now too.

What did you do? Now I can't unsee it...

Does this mean Villager is the Once-Ler

Guess that means Tom Nook Is O'Hare.

 

[Exalt4747]

Vergeben: This could potentially, conceivably be true.

People: VERGE SAYS THIS IS SUPER HAPPENING WHAT A HACK

 

[Knight Dude]

PS1 vs N64: Electric Boogaloo
We shall see if Sony comes out on top once again or if Nintendo gets their revenge.

If Nintendo makes it decently cheaper than 100 bucks, the N64 might actually get it's salty runback.

 

[Pakky]

Have Zombies Eaten your Neighbors?

Spoiler: Zeke & Julie

 

[Momotsuki]

Has this been discussed yet?
http://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/432174058

He says he's gonna show the footage either tonight or tomorrow.

I won't shrug it off just yet; I'd rather wait until their deadline arrives. But I don't totally buy it.

 

[Q-Long]

I still don't believe Verg if he believes something that I also believe in.
But if Steve, does get in, despite all the odds,
View attachment 165786
****ing called it and told you so, Verg has nothing on me.

But that's early celebration I can't say if Microsoft content is even coming.

kaiba for smash, he can fuse king k rool, ridley, and bowser together to make Ultimate Nintendo Eyes Dragon

 

[LetterO]

Has this been discussed yet?
http://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/432174058

He says he's gonna show the footage either tonight or tomorrow.

Someone keep an eye and see if this guy actually pulls through.

 

[Jedisupersonic]

STOP THIS AT ONCE

“But now," says the Villager, "now that you're here, the word of the Isabelle seems perfectly clear. UNLESS someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. It's not.”

 

[Pyra]

kaiba for smash, he can fuse king k rool, ridley, and bowser together to make Ultimate Nintendo Eyes Dragon

I...

...


I want it...........

I still don't believe Verg if he believes something that I also believe in.
But if Steve, does get in, despite all the odds,
View attachment 165786
****ing called it and told you so, Verg has nothing on me.

But that's early celebration I can't say if Microsoft content is even coming.

I mean, there's no reason I was ever against him other than "I like Minecraft but I'd like steve better as an AT or something"
so congrats if he makes it in, my dude

“But now," says the Villager, "now that you're here, the word of the Isabelle seems perfectly clear. UNLESS someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. It's not.”

I know I have no capacity to fire you from the writing team at all but you're promoted to reader

 

[Rocket Raccoon]

This whole Steve thing could be a Gematsu leak situtation where he isn't playable, but maybe an assist or a considered character.

Like Chrom or the Chorus Boys.

also nintendo add steven stone in the background or something in a pokemon stage, he is hella cute

I personally think they are testing him in general.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

I...

...


I want it...........


I mean, there's no reason I was ever against him other than "I like Minecraft but I'd like steve better as an AT or something"
so congrats if he makes it in, my dude


I know I have no capacity to fire you from the writing team at all but you're promoted to reader

Shouldn’t it be demoted lmao

 

[Will]

I mean, there's no reason I was ever against him other than "I like Minecraft but I'd like steve better as an AT or something"
so congrats if he makes it in, my dude

That's implying I ever wanted him. I just think he's the Cloud scenario I believed in three years ago. Just too big to be ignored.

 

[Jedisupersonic]

I

I know I have no capacity to fire you from the writing team at all but you're promoted to reader

lmao, I guess that's something

 

[Pyra]

Shouldn’t it be demoted lmao

Spoiler: i said what i meant and i meant what i said

That's implying I ever wanted him. I just think he's the Cloud scenario I believed in three years ago. Just too big to be ignored.

I meant congrats on the prediction, haha.
I was saying that I never had any kind of anti-steve rhetoric that would directly contradict his inclusion.

 

[Deleted member]

Has this been discussed yet?
http://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/432174058

He says he's gonna show the footage either tonight or tomorrow.

Most likely fake, but it'll be fun to watch how it turns out anyway. Is this the guy that claimed he was involved with the Prima guide?

 

[LetterO]

Yeah, it has been mentioned...
One Side of me hopes it's real because Chorus Kids, But I know it's likely fake because it mentions Skull Kid (Who is basically deconfirmed because of the Music Theory,)

>Deconfirming characters because of the Music Theory.

This ain't it chief.

 

[papagenos]

Have Zombies Eaten your Neighbors?

Spoiler: Zeke & Julie

yes!!! zamn is one of my all time favorite games

 

[ZephyrZ]

So you know how whenever someone suggest cuts, they get a lot of flack for it? Well I've been thinking about how I would decide on cuts for a new Smash Bros game and what I would do differently then most people who suggest these lists tend to do. First of all, it'll be a priority list. Characters on the top of the list will be the first to be cut, characters lower on the list will be characters I'd be more hesitant to. I see cutting as more of a necessary evil then a way to "clean" the games roster of characters I don't personally care for as most people who suggest this sort of list seem to.

I'm keeping all echoes and Dr.Mario unless the character they are echoing is cut as well. Cutting them seems unnecessary.

- Young Link and Pichu have their fans, but most of them were pretty understanding when they weren't in Brawl. At the end of the day they are just a smaller Link and a smaller Pikachu.
- See above.
- Wii Fit Trainer has her charms in Smash, but her popularity never took off as a joke character the same way Mr.G&W or Duck Hunt did. She was fine as a one off thing, but I don't think many people would miss her.
- I'd hate to say it, but Lucas's fanbase is pretty niche. Nothing personal against the kid, it's just that the Mother series is already lucky to even have Ness.
- Even if Roy has been decloned a bit, even I won't deny there's an over saturation of FE characters in Smash. It was a toss up between him, Ike and Corrin, but ultimately I decided to cut the one who's least unique in move set and play style. I'd still be really sad to see him go though. Naturally no Roy also means no Chrom, unfortunately.
- Being a legendary member of the original 12 has given her plot armor so far, but let's be real here; even if she's still fairly popular in Japan she's not exactly necessary in anyway. Pikachu, Pokemon Trainer, and Mewtwo basically have all of gen 1's bases covered, so Jiggs is just frosting on the cake.
- Another character who I'd hate to see go but would ultimately consider cutting anyway just because Kid Icarus sadly doesn't seem to have much of a future. I love Uprising to bits but I think that game's representation would still be fine even if it only had Pit.
- Greninja is popular, don't get me wrong, but whether it'll stand the test of time like Gen 1 mons or Lucario is still up in the air. I feel like it's the least recognizable of the admittedly strong Pokemon selection we currently have. Pokemon representation is already solid and I wouldn't be bothered too heavily to let one more guy go but of course I'm heavily biased in Ivysaur's favor.
- Now this is one I'd be heavily conflicted on cutting. It's really novel being able to play as Mr.Rodgers, Abraham Lincoln or Star Butterfly, but these guys seem like a little bit of a pain to develop for because they're essentially three different characters. Even if they borrow several moves from other members of the roster, they still more resource heavy then what they're worth. Maybe they'd be more popular if they were allowed online and at tournaments though, so we'll see if more people play in them in Ultimate.
- I really love what a unique character ROB is and what he brings to the table with his playstyle, but just like Wii Fit Trainer, I don't think the fanbase will mourn his loss too heavily. But perhaps I'm just being heartless in suggesting that we kill off the last of a dying race.


If I were the dev, I might give the old Doctor Mario treatment and make a few more tweaks so she's just barely outside of clone status. I don't think she's needs to be a full-fledged unique character but a lot of her fans don't seem fully satisfied with her echo status, so may as well throw them a bone.


Now I know this topic can be touchy, so feel free to start roasting me for suggesting that ROB is more important then Roy and Jiggles.

 

[Rocket Raccoon]

I'm bored so I'm making these icons for Steve.

Idk what they want to use.

 

[Exalt4747]

So you know how whenever someone suggest cuts, they get a lot of flack for it? Well I've been thinking about how I would decide on cuts for a new Smash Bros game. First of all, it'll be a priority list. Characters on the top of the list will be the first to be cut, characters lower on the list will be characters I'd be more hesitant to. I see cutting as more of a necessary evil then a way to "clean" the games roster of characters I don't personally care for as most people who suggest this sort of list seem to.

I'm keeping all echoes and Dr.Mario unless the character they are echoing is cut as well. Cutting them seems unnecessary.

- Young Link and Pichu have their fans, but most of them were pretty understanding when they weren't in Brawl. At the end of the day they are just a smaller Link and a smaller Pikachu.
- See above.
- Wii Fit Trainer has her charms in Smash, but her popularity never took off as a joke character the same way Mr.G&W or Duck Hunt did. She was fine as a one off thing, but I don't think many people would miss her.
- I'd hate to say it, but Lucas's fanbase is pretty niche. Nothing personal against the kid, it's just that the Mother series is already lucky to even have Ness.
- Even if Roy has been decloned a bit, even I won't deny there's an over saturation of FE characters in Smash. It was a toss up between him, Ike and Corrin, but ultimately I decided to cut the one who's least unique in move set and play style. I'd still be really sad to see him go though. Naturally no Roy also means no Chrom, unfortunately.
- Being a legendary member of the original 12 has given her plot armor so far, but let's be real here; even if she's still fairly popular in Japan she's not exactly necessary in anyway. Pikachu, Pokemon Trainer, and Mewtwo basically have all of gen 1's bases covered, so Jiggs is just frosting on the cake.
- Another character who I'd hate to see go but would ultimately consider cutting anyway just because Kid Icarus sadly doesn't seem to have much of a future. I love Uprising to bits but I think that game's representation would still be fine even if it only had Pit.
- Greninja is popular, don't get me wrong, but whether it'll stand the test of time like Gen 1 mons or Lucario is still up in the air. I feel like it's the least recognizable of the admittedly strong Pokemon selection we currently have. Pokemon representation is already solid and I wouldn't be bothered too heavily to let one more guy go but of course I'm heavily biased in Ivysaur's favor.
- Now this is one I'd be heavily conflicted on cutting. It's really novel being able to play as Mr.Rodgers, Abraham Lincoln or Star Butterfly, but these guys seem like a little bit of a pain to develop for because they're essentially three different characters. Even if they borrow several moves from other members of the roster, they still more resource heavy then what they're worth. Maybe they'd be more popular if they were allowed online and at tournaments though, so we'll see if more people play in them in Ultimate.
- I really love what a unique character ROB is and what he brings to the table with his playstyle, but just like Wii Fit Trainer, I don't think the fanbase will mourn his loss too heavily. But perhaps I'm just being heartless in suggesting that we kill off the last of a dying race.


If I were the dev, I might give the old Doctor Mario treatment and make a few more tweaks so she's just barely outside of clone status. I don't think she's needs to be a full-fledged unique character but a lot of her fans don't seem fully satisfied with her echo status, so may as well throw them a bone.


Now I know this topic can be touchy, so feel free to start roasting me for suggesting that ROB is more important then Roy and Jiggles.

Well, I agree with the first three and the miis at least.

Honestly the thing that I disagree with most is the "already strong pokemon roster"

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

I'm bored so I'm making these icons for Steve.

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Idk what they want to use.

I think Steve is Simplistic Enough that He can have his eyes showing like

 

[RandomAce]

Wario

Wario is the sexiest man alive.

This isn’t subjective, it’s fact. ALL HAIL OUR DOUBLE U OVERLORD.

 

[DevaAshera]

Yeah, it has been mentioned...
One Side of me hopes it's real because Chorus Kids, But I know it's likely fake because it mentions Skull Kid (Who is basically deconfirmed because of the Music Theory,)

Why would you want it to be fake because it'd disprove the Music Theory?

 

[Luigi The President]

Y'know we really have slept on "Minecraft is getting SOME sort of rep" from the moment Verge leaked it.

We just always glanced over it.

It's coming back with a vengeance.

 

[Malkior7]

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Wario is the sexiest man alive.

This isn’t subjective, it’s fact. ALL HAIL OUR DOUBLE U OVERLORD.

That's not a picture of Waluigi

 

[Pyra]

I'm bored so I'm making these icons for Steve.

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Idk what they want to use.

Go halfway, take away the pupils and it becomes Herobrine.
Then Mojang will be forced to remove him from the game every patch.

 

[Q-Long]

Minecraft stage would be okay, but I would love a Dig Dug stage.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Have Zombies Eaten your Neighbors?

Spoiler: Zeke & Julie

Neat, too bad Japan doesn't know of them tho.

 

[Jedisupersonic]

Y'know we really have slept on "Minecraft is getting SOME sort of rep" from the moment Verge leaked it.

We just always glanced over it.

It's coming back with a vengeance.

The Revengance is strong with this one.

Also I put up the details on the Custom Robo thing I put up yesterday for anyone curious or who didn't see it.

https://smashboards.com/threads/custom-robo-trademark-canceled.458636/

 

[SuperSceptile15]

I think with K. Rool this is a complete game, and everything else is just bonus.

Dixie Kong and a Gen 7 Pokemon would be ideal, too. Maybe characters from unrepresented series like Golden Sun, Rhythm Heaven, and Chibi Robo, although I don't think they're as necessary.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Why would you want it to be fake because it'd disprove the Music Theory?

I don't want it to be fake... It's just that the music Theory has so much going for it, That Skull Kid kinda makes this leak fake for me...Zelda Already has a track up. so If Skull Kid were a Character, There probably wouldn't be a track up... I don't know I could be proven wrong but... yeah... I don't know... Also Rayman over Steve?

 

[Luigi The President]

I don't want it to be fake... It's just that the music Theory has so much going for it, That Skull Kid kinda makes this leak fake for me...

The Music Theory actually has some stuff riding against it. Most notably, Echoes existing.

 

[Union of Darkness]

Has this been discussed yet?
http://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/432174058

He says he's gonna show the footage either tonight or tomorrow.

All posts from 4chan should be disregarded unless corroborated by an outside source. 5 pop up every day and are nonsense.

 

[ZephyrZ]

Well, I agree with the first three and the miis at least.

Honestly the thing that I disagree with most is the "already strong pokemon roster"

This list was made assuming that Smash 6 would still be getting a Pokemon newcomer. Yeah most of the pokemon are gen 1, they still do a good job at showing the variety Pokemon can provide, and those monsters are known by fans of any generation.

Or maybe I'm just super biased because my boy is back.

 

[RileyXY1]

The Music Theory actually has some stuff riding against it. Most notably, Echoes existing.

They outright said that the Music Theory only applies to unique newcomers. Echoes are exempt.

 

[Jedisupersonic]

Minecraft stage would be okay, but I would love a Dig Dug stage.

We need the buff version of Taizo from Namco X Capcom, to fight with Captain Falcon.