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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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papagenos

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I'm actually still concerned about the box leak because there have been more "trusted leakers" that have come out and the only characters they are confirmed are Ken and Incineroar.

They aren't saying those are the ONLY characters, but they also aren't naming any more

Except for the supposed SE character from Verg
But Leaky Pandy gave an explanation for that

I seriously doubt leakypandy knows about some dragon quest reveal at a game awards show, i dont think leakypandy has ever had info that specific come true.

vergeben suggested the square rep might just be dlc and that seems like a far better explanation if the box theory is true. personally i think we'll get the square rep as our final base roster character but they arent on the box or on the back or something but thats just my guess.
 

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Ugh! This again. Dillon is incredibly different from Sonic aside from rolling around. Dillon is actually quite sluggish on foot when he's not rolling, and attacks with claw swipes, bombs, burrowing, and other moves Sonic cannot do.

Stop insisting Dillon should be a Sonic echo. Dillon's roll attack has more in common with Jigglypuff's Rollout than Sonic's Spin Dash anyway.
You didn't catch that I was joking or...? My comment was literally mocking the people with this mentality.
 

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You didn't catch that I was joking or...? My comment was literally mocking the people with this mentality.
Oh. I really don't like it when people say that. I may not be a Dillon supporter, but I know that he can't be a Sonic echo. In the same way, I may not be a Heihachi Mishima supporter, but I know that he won't play like Ryu,
 
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Damn I really hope the next smash direct isn't November, so many theories are going to be proven or disproven then.
 

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any interesting leak/rumor? I've been absent for a while and wow so many new pages hahaha
 

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So, which SE rep (aside from Geno) would you like to see the most being added in Smash?
For me, it's either Agent 47 or Adam Jensen
 

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Box theory or not, does anyone think it's plausable we will have a day one dlc that is exclusive for Nintendo Online subscribers? Then releases in a month for everyone else?

I think it's totally possible and currently I'm banking on Geno being it. It's a great way to promote Online subscriptions. And for those of you who say that's not something Sakurai/Nintendo would do, they did a simialr, more expensive promotion for Mewtwo as dlc so idk...
 
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I never understood the hate for R.O.B personally, though I was a fan because of Mario Kart already.
It was mostly because he was "revealed" (as in some dude took a photo of his SSE title card) alongside the final roster, so people saw it as some obscure toy that most didn't even know what was stealing the spot of Ridley/Geno/Krystal/Mega Man/etc, and as such he got all of those characters' fans after him. It was never justified, but Smash fans always find a scapegoat, and R.O.B. had literally no support, unlike Wolf, Lucario and Toon Link who were the other hidden newcomers, so he was the one who was blamed.

It did blow over eventually though, most people warmed up to him when they got to do SSE themselves, it was mostly the initial reaction which was really bad.
 
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any interesting leak/rumor? I've been absent for a while and wow so many new pages hahaha
There's 2 at the moment (outside of the trillions and millions of patterns that are real until something breaks them then a new pattern is formed)
  1. A notoriously incorrect leaker suggests that a Dragon Quest character is being announced as DLC for The Game Awards.
  2. A leaker backed up by Vergeben suggests that Steve from Minecraft is playable, Vergeben says its a possibility.
 

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Tim Daly is Sephiroth, Superman, and Nooj from FFX-2? Pretty good at playing both sides it seems. His Nooj portrayal sounded kinda bland though; almost like he was bored lol.
Oh, my mistake, George Newbern, Justice League's Superman, is Sephiroth. I didn't know they changed VAs between series.
 

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Box theory or not, does anyone this it's plausable we will have a day one dlc that is exclusive for Nintendo Online subscribers? Then releases in a month for everyone else?

I think it's totally possible and currently I'm banking on Geno being it. It's a great way to promote Online subscriptions. And for those of you who say that's not something Sakurai/Nintendo would do, they did a simialr, more expensive promotion for Mewtwo as dlc so idk...
I like Geno but we are talking about Mewtwo.

A similar newcomer would probably need to cater more than hardcore fans.
 

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You didn't catch that I was joking or...? My comment was literally mocking the people with this mentality.
Internet pro tip: put smilies so that people can tell that you're not entirely being serious. ;)

So, which SE rep (aside from Geno) would you like to see the most being added in Smash?
For me, it's either Agent 47 or Adam Jensen
>Agent 47
Yeah, about that, I hate to break it to you, but IO Interactive have left SE and are on their own now, sorry.

As for me, it'd either be Cecil Harvey, Alena, Jessica or Tifa.
 

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Box theory or not, does anyone this it's plausable we will have a day one dlc that is exclusive for Nintendo Online subscribers? Then releases in a month for everyone else?

I think it's totally possible and currently I'm banking on Geno being it. It's a great way to promote Online subscriptions. And for those of you who say that's not something Sakurai/Nintendo would do, they did a simialr, more expensive promotion for Mewtwo as dlc so idk...

day one dlc seems un-sakurai like to me but... who knows.

nintendo definitely wants to push their online service, smash will be a big release to promote that with, dangling a carrot for us would make sense business wise. i dont know, it would be so odd to have essentially two different base rosters for those who bought online and those who didnt right off the bat.
 

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Although I would much rather have Minecraft represented by a stage and Creeper assist, I would be totally fine with Steve's inclusion. There's no denying Minecraft was an extremely influential game, and Steve would be completely deserving of his spot.
A fortnite character, on the other hand, would actually be a horrible choice. All that game has done is ride on the popularity of the battle Royale genre. It may be popular, but it will never have the impact Minecraft did.
 

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Box theory or not, does anyone this it's plausable we will have a day one dlc that is exclusive for Nintendo Online subscribers? Then releases in a month for everyone else?
I don't know man, if they were to release around 6 DLC characters for $5 each during a year, then it wouldn't make sense to release them separately since one could just purchase the Online for $20 and have them all for cheaper.
 

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Hey, if we ever get a DQ rep (I would still much rather have Geno), I think it would be cool if it was Slime.

I've never played a DQ game, but I just became sorta interested in it, and it's all because of what I've read about Slime.
 

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So, which SE rep (aside from Geno) would you like to see the most being added in Smash?
For me, it's either Agent 47 or Adam Jensen
Crack fingers

Sora from Kingdom Hearts even if he's Disney, he have STRONG tie with Square
Terra from FF VI
Bartz Freelancer From FF V
Djidane from FF IX
Lightning From FFXIII
A Moggle from FF
A Chocobo from FF
Any Bravely Default Characters
Erdrick from Dragon Quest
Eight from Dragon Quest
Loto from Dragon Quest
Neku From The World End With You
Crono from Chrono Trigger
Mana from Secret of Mana
A star Ocean character



Yes. I have a lot of candidate if Geno isn't in. And they're for me. As Iconic if not even more than Geno for some of them... Which is why guessing a Square Rep is basically taking a gamble.
 
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If the Square-Enix character IS Geno, would he really be back of the box material?

IDK
 

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Slime to me is like people asked for Hat Goomba

without the hat
 

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Slime to me is like people asked for Hat Goomba

without the hat
To be fair, Slime had its own series of games. No hat Goombas can claim that.

I would love a worm from the worms game series.

Imagine the gameplay and as final smash either a holy grenade or a donkey statut
I, for one, would like to see moral guardians being given the finger once and for all, the Devil AT was already amazing in that regard.
 
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If he's got a nephew he must have family and I can't imagine him being born a head with floating hands
We don't know how they procreate.
Even still, we are not all born how we envision ourselves.
All the more reason the head and hands may be the true form of Andross.
He's beautiful, anyway. Cuz God makes no mistakes.
 

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Super Smash Bros Ultimate featuring the return of Geno from Super Mario RPG and Steve from Minecraft?
 

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Minecraft may be popular, but is Steve?
There are significantly better ways to represent the series than just adding the default skin of the player avatar, especially when you play in first person (or I have always at least) more often.
Yes, Steve himself is popular. He has a ton of merchandise...toys, appearances on t-shirts, Halloween costumes at your local Wal-Mart, the works. They wouldn't heavily merchandise an unpopular character.
 

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Super Smash Bros Ultimate featuring the return of Geno from Super Mario RPG and Steve from Minecraft?
"Super smash bros Ultimate features Modern characters as Steve from Minecraft! And even Cult Classic as Geno from Super Mario RPG!"

That's the kind of things you could find in those kind of box
 

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Yes, Steve himself is popular. He has a ton of merchandise...toys, appearances on t-shirts, Halloween costumes at your local Wal-Mart, the works. They wouldn't heavily merchandise an unpopular character.
What's funny is I wrote this exact comment about Pac-Man and why I thought he was getting in and people dismissed it as "But that's normie stuff"
 

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There's 2 at the moment (outside of the trillions and millions of patterns that are real until something breaks them then a new pattern is formed)
  1. A notoriously incorrect leaker suggests that a Dragon Quest character is being announced as DLC for The Game Awards.
  2. A leaker backed up by Vergeben suggests that Steve from Minecraft is playable, Vergeben says its a possibility.
ooooh Steve as the minecraft rep? oooh no
 

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Steve for the Main Audience.
Geno for the Hardcore one

Brawl did the same by using Snake/Sonic at the back of the box-
I'd argue Snake is on a completely different level than Geno though.
Snake at the very least is recognizable in the game industry, while Geno is only relegated to the Smash speculative community.
(Not to mention Snake wasn't also ever requested so)
Then again Ridley is also on the box art, so I guess it really doesn't matter.
 

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The funny thing about Steve is that his alternate costumes could literally be anything.

1 would definitely be Alex, and I imagine he would have his Mario skin as well
 

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Is it your way to tell me that you don't like my idea or moral guardians is a real character ?
No, it's not a character at all, I was just referring to how Tamagon's trophy was cut in the US version of Melee because of people that are uppity about Christian references in video games. Your idea is great, I was just saying.
 
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