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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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Rie Sonomura

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Someone should do an image edit of Thanos with Incineroar's head. The Vergeben Stone, the music stone, the "new pokemon every time" stone...not sure what else though.
and then Bandana Dee will be like "Kirby...I don't feel so good..."


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So, what is this whole music theory about? And why's everyone going crazy about it?
The theory is that series will only get music once, any series that has music already on the blog won't get a newcomer because newcomers always come with new music.
 
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Title Theme from Animal Crossing: Happy Home Designer is the music for today.

https://www.smashbros.com/en_US/sound/index.html
Can I just say that Totaka brought NINTENDO 64 VIBES through??? I cannot think of some bombin' N64 games' OST. Like this reminds me of Mario Party 3 or Wave Race 64, WHICH WAS A GAME HE WAS A COMPOSER OF.

This actually ain't bad at all. God bless Totaka. Ultimate's starting to beat out Brawl's OST, that's for damn sure.
 

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Consider the following: what if the blog continues to have music posts even after the game's released? Would it render the theory pointless?
Nope because we'd know the base roster anyway.

It's obviously not gunna matter for dlc.

I haven't seen anyone post it yet so....series that still are possible for a full unique newcomer
:ultcloud::ultfox::ultlittlemac::ultness::ultpit::ultpikachu::ultshulk::ultsonic::ultwario::ultbayonetta:

(Didnt count some of the retro series, fight me)

At this point I could see Xenoblade, Pokemon and Sonic. Mayyybe Kid Icarus and Mother.

It's heavily implied Final Fantasy didn't get new music right?
 
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The theory is that series will only get music once, any series that has music already on the blog won't get a newcomer because newcomers always come with new music.
Uh huh. And what series has gotten new music yet?
 

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It was a trailer...which was a random announcement on the site
It was not random. I explicitly remember staying up until whenever the announcement was supposed to happen. We were told about it.
If you want a random new character announcement, youre going back to Dojo days.
 

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Speaking of Tabuu, which characters could canonically beat him?
I'm thinking of Ness and Kirby but i don't know about the others
Shulk has a good shot, with Ness and Rosalina as POSSIBILITIES if you believe certain things.

Archie Sonic and Paper Mario with the Pire Hearts definitely can, I'd say.

The Belmonts are also ridiculously OP and broken based on the stuff the characters in Castlevania can do.

So yeah.
 

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"New Smash Blog Post! (9/18/2018) "Today's Music - You can now check out "Happy Home Designer - Title Theme." Enjoy the arrangement by Kazumi Totaka, a staff member from the original game!"

Music theory still lives on. It was animal crossing just like I had predicted. This is further proof that even if the newcomer doesn't come with a new song in their trailer, that a song for their series will come alongside them anyways. I don't think its a coincidence that they waited this long to put animal crossing music on the website until after Isabelle was revealed.

Again, that leaves these franchises.
:ultlittlemac::ultwario::ultwiifittrainer::ultsonic::ultshulk::ultness::ultpacman::ultduckhunt::ultpokemontrainer::ultpit::ultmario:(Mario Kart)

Considering that :ultpokemontrainer: is still around, that's probably not a coincidence and that we're getting a Gen 7 Pokemon.
The Music still bodes well for the :ultsonic: franchise. Since this theory only implies to newcomers, it could very well hint towards semi-clone Shadow, or newcomer Tails. Still could be a coincidence though.

Other possible candidates leave :ultshulk::ultness::ultpit:. Not as likely for these three, but I would keep a watch out to see if their songs ever show up.

Every other franchise is not worth considering.
 
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If SMRPG is counted as a spinoff, and they use two Mario icons, Geno is still possible.

or Paper Mario.
The second Mario icon is for Mario Kart, not spin offs in general.

Unless you want Standard Kart Shy Guy, that is.
 

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Well uh.... one thing i should mentio-
Okay, you win, but don't @ me
So, what is this whole music theory about? And why's everyone going crazy about it?
See below
Ok let me get this straight, this music theaory states that when a franchise gets a new song that means there are no more newcomers of said franchise, right?
 

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So, what is this whole music theory about? And why's everyone going crazy about it?
A track is released for the same series of every newcomer announcement. After the character announcement. 1 per series. What series are left will be the newcomer prospects. Pokemon does not have a teack. Echos do not count.
 
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All they have to do now is delete The Roost from the game so that there's absolutely no chance I will ever have to hear it again.
This. Seriously, Screw. Smashville. I never want to see that stage again in my life.
 

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Still find it strange that Bayonetta wouldn't get a new arrangement this time around, since she was able to get two in Smash Wii U.....
 

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So the franchises that have not gotten a music track are:
  • Star Fox
    • Doubt we're getting a new Star Fox character
  • Pokemon
    • Incineroar is coming and you know it
  • Mother
    • Interesting. Porky is still in the running. Take that what you will.
  • Ice Climber
    • Not getting a newcomer
  • Game and Watch
    • Not getting a newcomer
  • Kid Icarus
    • I highly doubt we are getting another unique Kid Icarus character
  • WarioWare
    • With Ashley still being an assist trophy, I doubt a WarioWare newcomer
  • Sonic the Hedgehog
    • ...Tails?
  • Gyromite
    • Not getting a newcomer
  • Wii Fit
    • Not getting a newcomer
  • Punch Out!!
    • Highly doubt we'll get a unique Punch Out character
  • Mii
    • Not getting a newcomer
  • Pac-Man
    • Not getting a unique newcomer
  • Xenoblade
    • Elma maybe?
  • Final Fantasy (unlikely to have new songs)
    • I highly doubt we'll get another Final Fantasy character, but it is possible.
  • Bayonetta
    • Not getting a unique newcomer
 
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VS Debating is my hobby, you just ****ed up.
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Also, Giygas isn't a god. He's not even close. He's an alien in the first game, and still an alien that's gotten a little too powerful. He's not really ever called a god and meant in such a way. "Universal Cosmic Destroyer"? "Almighty Idiot"? None of these mention a god in the title. You beat Giygas by prayer, which takes everyone, even outside of the 4th wall, to kill. Nobody killed him with raw strength at this strongest, and nobody killed him with raw strength as his weakest. The only entity in the series who can do something on the level as him is the Dark Dragon in Mother 3.

tldr do your homework
 
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The second Mario icon is for Mario Kart, not spin offs in general.

Unless you want Standard Kart Shy Guy, that is.
When has this ever been confirmed that the second Mario icon is for Mario Kart? I have seen no evidence. It'd make perfect sense for spin-offs, considering how astronomically huge of a selection you can get just off the base Mario games like Mario 64, Galaxy, Odyssey, etc.
 

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So the franchises that have not gotten a music track are:
  • Star Fox
    • Doubt we're getting a new Star Fox character
  • Pokemon
    • Incineroar is coming and you know it
  • Mother
    • Interesting. Porky is still in the running. Take that what you will.
  • Ice Climber
    • Not getting a newcomer
  • Game and Watch
    • Not getting a newcomer
  • Kid Icarus
    • I highly doubt we are getting another unique Kid Icarus character
  • WarioWare
    • With Ashley still being an assist trophy, I doubt a WarioWare newcomer
  • Gyromite
    • Not getting a newcomer
  • Wii Fit
    • Not getting a newcomer
  • Punch Out!!
    • Highly doubt we'll get a unique Punch Out character
  • Mii
    • Not getting a newcomer
  • Pac-Man
    • Not getting a unique newcomer
  • Xenoblade
    • Elma maybe?
  • Final Fantasy (unlikely to have new songs)
    • I highly doubt we'll get another Final Fantasy character, but it is possible.
  • Bayonetta
    • Not getting a unique newcomer
Uhh... You forgot Sonic...
 

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It was not random. I explicitly remember staying up until whenever the announcement was supposed to happen. We were told about it.
If you want a random new character announcement, youre going back to Dojo days.
But it was still announced on the site, and we were only told about it a couple days in advance from what I remember so I'd still basically count it, it wasn't out of nowhere but it wasn't like it was in a direct or anything like that. Regardless they could still just have a repeat of what they did with robin to announce a character if they want.
 

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So the franchises that have not gotten a music track are:
  • Star Fox
    • Doubt we're getting a new Star Fox character
  • Pokemon
    • Incineroar is coming and you know it
  • Mother
    • Interesting. Porky is still in the running. Take that what you will.
  • Ice Climber
    • Not getting a newcomer
  • Game and Watch
    • Not getting a newcomer
  • Kid Icarus
    • I highly doubt we are getting another unique Kid Icarus character
  • WarioWare
    • With Ashley still being an assist trophy, I doubt a WarioWare newcomer
  • Gyromite
    • Not getting a newcomer
  • Wii Fit
    • Not getting a newcomer
  • Punch Out!!
    • Highly doubt we'll get a unique Punch Out character
  • Mii
    • Not getting a newcomer
  • Pac-Man
    • Not getting a unique newcomer
  • Xenoblade
    • Elma maybe?
  • Final Fantasy (unlikely to have new songs)
    • I highly doubt we'll get another Final Fantasy character, but it is possible.
  • Bayonetta
    • Not getting a unique newcomer
Shame, Ice Climbers and Game and Watch have rich lore and characters.
 

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>3 sequels later
>every fanbase gets the characters they wanted, plus some Western third parties
>Kirby still has Kirby, MK and Dedede

Shame, Ice Climbers and Game and Watch have rich lore and characters.
I know you're possibly being sarcastic, but one could make a case for the wolf in Egg (and maybe sneaking in Stanley the Bugman as a loophole).

Ice Climber though? I honestly don't think they'd promote the polar bear, since the ICs are the only real option.
 
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What would really throw us all for a loop is if next week is a Pokemon remix.

...On second thought, hopefully not. I don't think this thread would survive that.
 
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