Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[pupNapoleon]

It's an AC song?

C'mon baby give me Elma!

What exactly do you want to happen with Elma- it's not as if we are prone to get a new random character announcement on the site.
(Which is actually why I think the DOJO was much more interesting of a speculation period.)

 

[Zinith]

Happy Home Designer, by Kazumi Totaka himself!

Between this and Yoshi NI, they have a weird love affair with tunes from lesser series entries, lately.

Totaka is the voice of my boi too. What a great coincidence!!!

 

[Potato_]

Are we seriously surprised that a character that is just revealed also gets a music track for their series the following Wednesday?
Just like what happened with K.Rool and Simon?

I really don't think it confirms Music Theory, we won't know that for sure until we get every character.

 

[Exalt4747]

It helps Tails.

I'll take what I can get lol.

I'd like to see Tails.

That could also be helping Shadow, for better or worse/

 

[MSmariosonic]

Eh

I think it has more so to do with highlighting a franchise of the most recent newcomer.

Don't think it deconfirms anyone.

 

[Deleted member]

Hey guys lets do unpopular smash opinions I will start Chrom shouldn't have been in smash ulitmate Chrom is cool but he is a waste of a fire emblem slot

Hmm, unpopular opinions? I have a few...

1. I'm with you on Chrom, but not about being wasted potential for another FE character, I honestly believe FE should not have gotten anything more character-wise this game. As much as I love Chrom, FE has more playable Smash characters than Zelda and nearly matches Pokemon. That's kind of insane. I would have prefered an Echo from an entirely different series to promote some variety in the roster, but meh, what's done is done.

2. I don't believe that Dante leak is as credible as other people believe. Sometimes a guess is just that: Only a guess. To each their own, though.

3. I feel like Pokemon is fine where it's at right now and doesn't need another character. I'd be happy if one I liked got in, but I'd also feel kinda sad as I would've preferred other series and characters.

4. I think Dark Samus is fine as she is. I would've liked a unique character, but it was most likely the Echo or nothing.

5. I think Isabelle was one of the best newcomer additions so far, and I got more hyped for her than Ridley and K. Rool.

6. Pikmin could use a semi-clone.

7. Splatoon could easily have two more characters.

8. I think Waluigi would have been fun and wanted him regardless of memes.

9. I wouldn't mind Goku if it happened. Please don't hurt me.

10. Geno is cool, but there a lot more interesting characters from SE to pull from.

 

[Shroob]

I'd wait until next week for the music theory, it was very likely we were getting an AC song this week.

Next week doesn't really matter at this point.

What matters is we now KNOW that they delay series music to match newcomers.


They could have thrown up the AC song and nothing would have happened, but they delayed it.


Why?


Isabelle wasn't revealed yet.

 

[Deleted member]

Vega Stage and Brinstar Depths have been there since E3 and oh boy would you look at who one of our confirmed Echoes and the most rumoured character left are?

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Would Ken and Black Shadow (if the latter's an echo) be considered dead tho

hmmmmMMMMM

 

[Jedisupersonic]

So I'm out of the loop despite discussing some of the various theories, what is the Music theory exactly again?

 

[IGuessItsOver]

Ok let me get this straight, this music theaory states that when a franchise gets a new song that means there are no more newcomers of said franchise, right?
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If that's true, then RIP Geno, RIP BWD, RIP BLACK SHADOW NOOOOOOOOOO

 

[Untouch]

Next week doesn't really matter at this point.

What matters is we now KNOW that they delay series music to match newcomers.


They could have thrown up the AC song and nothing would have happened, but they delayed it.


Why?


Isabelle wasn't revealed yet.

The theory's whole basis is that series won't get music more than once, which has been true so far, but hasn't been totally confirmed.

 

[Potato_]

Next week doesn't really matter at this point.

What matters is we now KNOW that they delay series music to match newcomers.


They could have thrown up the AC song and nothing would have happened, but they delayed it.


Why?


Isabelle wasn't revealed yet.

True, but so far nothing about this says they can't upload multiple songs from the same series. Nothing about this deconfirms characters that already have songs uploaded on the site.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Ok Sakurai but can we please get a Star Fox track next week. We know it ain't getting a newcomer give us the goods.

Unless...

Serriously though, Slippy is one of my most wanted new characters... I just want to use him to annoy people...

 

[Exalt4747]

Hmm, unpopular opinions? I have a few...

3. I feel like Pokemon is fine where it's at right now and doesn't need another character. I'd be happy if one I liked got in, but I'd also feel kinda sad as I would've preferred other series and characters.

I don't think this one is unpopular.

Personally, I'm just asking for one I do like, and Incineroar fits the bill.

 

[Shroob]

Vega Stage and Brinstar Depths have been there since E3 and oh boy would you look at who one of our confirmed Echoes and the most rumoured character left are?

The theory doesn't count Echoes, which lines up.



Yeah, it's weird, but it's part of the theory.

 

[Chrono.]

I'd like to see Tails.

That could also be helping Shadow, for better or worse/

I'm okay with either, honestly.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Ok let me get this straight, this music theaory states that when a franchise gets a new song that means there are no more newcomers of said franchise, right?
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If that's true, then RIP Geno, RIP BWD, RIP BLACK SHADOW NOOOOOOOOOO

Echoes seem to be immune, as we got Dark Samus, and if Ken is true and he's an echo, the Music Theory doesn't rule him out

only problem is now Bandana Dee would HAVE to be an Echo to have a chance now and again...idk how to feel about that

 

[TheCJBrine]

If Ken isn't counted as an Echo...

...

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Would Ken and Black Shadow (if the latter's an echo) be considered dead tho

hmmmmMMMMM

No...
Fire Emblem and Metroid already had tracks up before Chrom and Dark Samus were Announced.
This theory only affects Newcomers

 

[Shroob]

The theory's whole basis is that series won't get music more than once, which has been true so far, but hasn't been totally confirmed.

Considering we have 11 weeks left, we don't have a lot of time left at this point for doubles.


Can it happen? Sure.

But there are still a LOT of franchises with 0 music on the site.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Honestly, I don't think they'd upload songs associated to certain characters unless they were exposed already to begin with. It's common sense, right?

 

[Iridium]

Something about that smile...doesn't seem authentic. Just...huh.

 

[Chrono.]

Echoes seem to be immune, as we got Dark Samus, and if Ken is true and he's an echo, the Music Theory doesn't rule him out

only problem is now Bandana Dee would HAVE to be an Echo to have a chance now and again...idk how to feel about that

I'm pretty sure it'd mean Bandana Dee is dead more than he's an echo.

He literally can't echo anyone.

 

[CosmicQuark]

All fan theories are 99% wrong from the get-go, whether they're music, chairs, or boxes. They're fun, but should never be taken too seriously. Sakurai decides to release info however he damn well pleases.

 

[IGuessItsOver]

Echoes seem to be immune, as we got Dark Samus, and if Ken is true and he's an echo, the Music Theory doesn't rule him out

only problem is now Bandana Dee would HAVE to be an Echo to have a chance now and again...idk how to feel about that

Phew, sucks for BWD supporters tho, but atleast MY boi is still somewhat safe

 

[MoonlitIllusion]

What exactly do you want to happen with Elma- it's not as if we are prone to get a new random character announcement on the site.
(Which is actually why I think the DOJO was much more interesting of a speculation period.)

Let's not forget how robin was revealed though, or we could just get another direct

 

[MSmariosonic]

The music theory won't affect the speculation about a Final Fantasy character though :v

 

[Jedisupersonic]

Something about that smile...doesn't seem authentic. Just...huh.

"Imma gonna a-deck you"

 

[Xgears]

If Spirits is a story mode and Tabuu is back as the final boss, I think it's safe to say an unexpected guest will show up at the last minute to save the world of Nintendo and its fighters.

Spoiler: Heroic Guest Character

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GONNA LET IT OUT GONNA LET IT OUT

 

[Will]

On what basis?

gets in Smash 4
gets kicked out because Sakurai reconsiders it
Sakurai says "wow these alternate costumes should just be characters except Alph **** Alph"
takes 's place

slot stolen

 

[Zinith]

Music Theory is definitely the one that has the most evidence in it's favor, but just remember that it's not absolutely confirmed. If people on this thread speculate characters that go against this theory, don't get worked up and jump down their throats.

Sincerely, Michael "Zinith" Lahnala

 

[Exalt4747]

I'm pretty sure it'd mean Bandana Dee is dead more than he's an echo.

He literally can't echo anyone.

DeeLC.

 

[Deleted member]

Ok let me get this straight, this music theaory states that when a franchise gets a new song that means there are no more newcomers of said franchise, right?
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.
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If that's true, then RIP Geno, RIP BWD, RIP BLACK SHADOW NOOOOOOOOOO

Remember that Mario has two music icons. No other franchises have two music icons. Not to mention we still have Verge to go off of.
Geno isn't dead yet.

 

[pupNapoleon]

Are we seriously surprised that a character that is just revealed also gets a music track for their series the following Wednesday?
Just like what happened with K.Rool and Simon?

I really don't think it confirms Music Theory, we won't know that for sure until we get every character.

We like to speculate! Do not tell us we are hungry if the fridge is empty!

 

[Deleted member]

The music theory won't affect the speculation about a Final Fantasy character though :v

Ah yes, one of those two songs could be for a new Final Fantasy character.

 

[Nethermoosen]

Next week doesn't really matter at this point.

What matters is we now KNOW that they delay series music to match newcomers.


They could have thrown up the AC song and nothing would have happened, but they delayed it.


Why?


Isabelle wasn't revealed yet.

Okay yeah, but then how do you explain....uhhhhh....
K, but, there’s so many...things.....that could possibly disprove it later? Like one, right?

lol. At least it’s holding up so far.
The only thing that can disprove it is for a song playing from a franchise BEFORE the reveal of a new character from that franchise, right?

Because that’s pretty slim until most franchises have had a song anyways.

It will become more and more plausible as time goes on, but right now, it’s about half way? Is that right?

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

So... what are the most likely franchises to get newcomers at this point?

 

[MoonlitIllusion]

Are we seriously surprised that a character that is just revealed also gets a music track for their series the following Wednesday?
Just like what happened with K.Rool and Simon?

I really don't think it confirms Music Theory, we won't know that for sure until we get every character.

It's pretty clear though that the song was pushed back a week along with the direct as to not be revealed before isabelle, that's the whole point of the music theory

 

[Exalt4747]

gets in Smash 4
gets kicked out because Sakurai reconsiders it
Sakurai says "wow these alternate costumes should just be characters except Alph **** Alph"
takes 's place

slot stolen

I don't really follow.

But I prefer Lucina.