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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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Pakky

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Not anything concrete but how's the newcomers' fan demand based on region until now? It seems something like,

Mainly west: Ridley, Dark Samus
Often western: Simon
Everywhere: King K.Rool, Daisy
Often Japan: Inklings (?), Chrom
Mainly Japan: Richter(?)

Any ideas?
JP
Everywhere (As far as I know)

USA/UK (possibly)

USA (I would guess)
 
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Richter did not even have Japanese fan demand. It was Simon. Everyone expected Simon to be the lead. Him even getting an echo was out of left field.

Chrom has more western following than Japanese because the Japanese are more familar with the entirety of Fire Emblem than the West.

Also I'm surprised, Ridley wasn't wanted everywhere?
 

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I think a reasonable guess would be an announcement tomorrow about whether they plan to do the Direct Thursday or will defer it further/cancel.
 

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Richter did not even have Japanese fan demand. It was Simon. Everyone expected Simon to be the lead. Him even getting an echo was out of left field.

Chrom has more western following than Japanese because the Japanese are more familar with the entirety of Fire Emblem than the West.

Also I'm surprised, Ridley wasn't wanted everywhere?
Sakurai said during E3 it was "especially Western requests."
 

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Me a few days ago: It'll probably be a literal week
Me a day after: It'll probably be a literal week
Me yesterday: It'll probably be a literal week
I keep having to repeat myself smh
The more you say it the longer it'll be delayed
Online service pushed back two weeks, direct confirmed for October 1st ayyyye

Keep going
 

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Directs are usually announced at 10AM EST on the day before they’re supposed to air.
This seems to indicate there won’t be a direct tomorrow.

Although they might just be announcing it at a weird time, due to the unconventional circumstances.
By that logic, the direct must be announce tomorrow then. They said the direct will be on 13 th for some countries, and the 14th in Japan and europe, just like last week when was 6th/7th
 
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By that logic, the direct must be announce tomorrow then.
Or later tonight.

Cause nothing's going to stop them from announcing it in the morning in Japan, which would make it later for us.

People should stop putting all their eggs in one basket and just be patient either way lol
 
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The more you say it the longer it'll be delayed
Online service pushed back two weeks, direct confirmed for October 1st ayyyye

Keep going
You underestimate my power
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By that logic, the direct must be announce tomorrow then. They said the direct will be on 13 th for some countries, and the 14th in Japan and europe, just like last week when was 6th/7th
If not, then the next day. Then the next day. Then the mext day
 

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You underestimate my power
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If not, then the next day. Then the next day. Then the mext day
Actually, wait, if you keep going enough you might eventually reach the boundary of time and it'll loop back to it being tomorrow.
Because that's how time works now.
 

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If Rhythm Heaven got a Rep, it will probably be the "WTF" one. Its not a huge franchise.


Is not the same as Nintendo simply dont put Inklings in Smash Ultimate. Splatoon is Huge.

Says the people who voted for an irrelevant Character like Isaac...
But i'm not claiming that Isaac is Relevant. I'm not trying to force relevance in a character just because is my wish to see it in smash.
But You are.

If Isaac enters, i'll feel very happy, but not gonna say that he is important or relevant.

If Karate joe enters (and I believe it gonna happens), I'll keep saying that Rhytym Heaven is not that important as a franchise.
 
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Me a few days ago: It'll probably be a literal week
Me a day after: It'll probably be a literal week
Me yesterday: It'll probably be a literal week
I keep having to repeat myself smh
Me fews day ago: I can wait
Me a day after: Can wait
Me yesterday: Probably can wait
Me today: I don't know
 

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Or later tonight.

Cause nothing's going to stop them from announcing it in the morning in Japan, which would make it later for us.

People should stop putting all their eggs in one basket and just be patient either way lol
What time in the Japanese morning do they tend to announce it?
 

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If Rhythm Heaven got a Rep, it will probably be the "WTF" one. Its not a huge franchise.


Is not the same as Nintendo simply dont put Inklings in Smash Ultimate. Splatoon is Huge.
As people have said here, Sakurai doesn't pick characters for their "wtf" factor, that's purely a speculative thing.
Also, I personally believe RH is prominent enough to deserve a fighter, regardless of what sales looked like haha.
 

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What time in the Japanese morning do they tend to announce it?
I'm not sure. I was just saying that there really isn't anything stopping them from, say, announcing it at 10AM their time. That'd be 9PM EST.

Or any such reasonable morning hour on their side.

Especially considering the current scenario.
 

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I'm a huge fan of bringing up Isaac when calling Rhythm Heaven a "not big enough franchise" or implying it is unimportant. One of them is still making games...
 

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Not anything concrete but how's the newcomers' fan demand based on region until now? It seems something like,

Mainly west: Ridley, Dark Samus
Often western: Simon
Everywhere: King K.Rool, Daisy
Often Japan: Inklings (?), Chrom
Mainly Japan: Richter(?)

Any ideas?
Richter is apparently well known in Latin America, to the point where they don't know who Simon is but know who Richter is. I'd also move the Inklings to "Everywhere" with K. Rool and Daisy.

I think Isaac would be Europe. So he'd be in the "Often Western" category (there is Japanese demand for him, just not nearly as much as in Europe or America).

Bandana Dee would be "Often Japan", Geno would be "Everywhere".

"DQ Hero"/Erdrick would be "Mainly Japan".

If Agumon got in I'm not sure where he'd go, Digimon is still going in Japan, and Latin America loves it, it's seeing a slow resurgence everywhere else, so... maybe "Everywhere"?
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Speaking of Isaac in Smash, I was thinking about how he'd be a rare sight in Smash. A Swordsman who doesn't use a Sword personal to them (Robin was the first).
:ultlink::ultyounglink::ulttoonlink: have the Master Sword
:ultmarth::ultlucina::ultchrom: have the Falchion
:ultroy: has the Binding Blade
:ultchrom: has Ragnell
:ultshulk: has the Monado
:ultcloud: has the Buster Sword
:ultcorrin: has the Omega Yato

:ultrobin has the Levin and Bronze Swords, which anyone can wield.

Isaac'd probably use the Gaia Blade, but as a Golden Sun weapon it's hardly unique to him, Felix, Garet, Piers and Matthew can equip it too (it became locked to Matthew in Dark Dawn, but until then everyone who could use Long Swords could use it).

He could use the Sol Blade, which is exclusive to the Golden Sun main protagonists (Isaac, Felix and Matthew), but even then it's still usable by three people, two of which are unrelated to one another.

Technically anyone can use the Buster Sword, since it's just an ordinary sword with no special properties, but it's still Cloud's signature weapon.
 

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I want Isaac the most currently, mostly because I have given up on the prospect of Advance Wars getting... well anything.

That being said Rhythm Heaven would be cool, anything to get more obscure/dead/smaller Nintendo franchises recognized or give them the chance at a revival
 

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Chrom has more western following than Japanese because the Japanese are more familar with the entirety of Fire Emblem than the West.
I don't believe that. Sakurai even said that it was especially the Japanese who demanded Chrom. I'm sure the voice of Sugita Tomokazu severely boosts Chrom's popularity in Japan as opposed to in the West.
 

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So I did a lil brainstorming with myself to which character I'd like to see in Smash and here is my takes.

As for Pokemon being not a fan of this franchise I don't know one bit who to add thus my question mark (?). I squared in red two characters that can be alternative choice for Third parties character. But they can be Assist Trophies too.

I know one can only dream lol
 

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I'm a huge fan of bringing up Isaac when calling Rhythm Heaven a "not big enough franchise" or implying it is unimportant. One of them is still making games...
Do fans of Isaac or Golden Sun hate Rhythm Heaven or something? I have never seen this until this was brought up. Isaac is one of my most wanted right now and no one in that thread has complained about Karate Joe or the Chorus Men.

Rhythm Heaven is a great series. I can see it going like this during a regular conversation.

Them: idk man, rhythm heaven seems kind of small
you: so is isaac's game
Them: who is isaac again?
 

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So I did a lil brainstorming with myself to which character I'd like to see in Smash and here is my takes.

As for Pokemon being not a fan of this franchise I don't know one bit who to add thus my question mark (?). I squared in red two characters that can be alternative choice for Third parties character. But they can be Assist Trophies too.

I know one can only dream lol
DEATHBORN!

Finally someone knows.
 

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I'm not saying that I dont want or I wont like a RH character. It will be great to have one. I'm just saying that this is not a relevant franchise.

People should be able to make a differentiation between relevance and desire.
 
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https://smashboards.com/threads/lis...franchises-without-playable-character.444470/

This is a list with all nintendo franchises that dont have Smash Rep.

Plenty of them are as big as Rhytym Haven.
TBH, more people talk about RH because of the rumor than because of the Series itself.
Quick question, what does that have to do with how there was LITERALLY EVIDENCE that a Rhythm Heaven character was planned? I agree Chorus Kids are up there with Geno as "Biggest bandwagon character in Smash history" but yeesh
 

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I'm not saying that I dont want or I wont like a RH character. It will be great to have one. I'm just saying that this is not a relevant franchise.

People should be able to make a differentiation between relevance and desire.
In what world is Rhythm Heaven not relevant? It’s consistently been getting games since the DS (excluding Wii U), and it’s most recent game was 2 years ago,
 

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There is evidence that a Rhythm Heaven was gonna be in Smash 4. It's not that obscure.
Being in Smash does not a major Nintendo franchise make. Mother and F-Zero have had playable characters since the N64 era and we all know how important both franchises are to Nintendo. Smash does it own thing, regardless of who or what Nintendo promotes as Smash's agenda does not equal Nintendo's agenda. At any rate, the only major Nintendo franchise that was missing until the first reveal trailer of Smash Ultimate was Splatoon.

Says the people who voted for an irrelevant Character like Isaac...
I've never seen any Isaac supporter downplay the idea of a Rhythm Heaven character. This argument makes no sense.
 
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