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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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Michael the Spikester

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Who I predict for base.

Newcomers:
Bandana Dee
Geno
Retro Rep/Rhythm Heaven Rep
Incineroar
Skull Kid

Echo Fighters:
Black Knight
Dixie Kong
Isabelle
Shadow
 
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Black Shadow, Geno, Shadow the Hedgehog and Isabelle for the base roster.
Banjo & Kazooie, ARMS character, Shantae and Isaac for DLC.
 

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Lloyd, Skull Kid, Incineroar, and Geno for Uniques, and Isabelle, Shadow, Ken, and Hilda echoes are my guesses for Base Roster.
 

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Here’s a fun little game I found. Either treat them together or treat them seperately, it’s your choice:

Chart 1: Incineroar, Amaterasu, Spring Man, Black Knight, Azura, Ken, Waddle Dee, Lloyd

Chart 2: Paper Mario, Geno, Decidueye, Monster Hunter, Rayman, Shantae, Elma, Galacta Knight
Chart 1 (separate): Incineroar, Skull Kid, Dixie Kong (13 days)

OR

Chart 2 (separate): Decidueye, Paper Mario, Elma (11 days)

So, can I cash in on the unused days as a paycheck?
Are these charts indicative of who people still want in Smash? Okay :rolleyes:
 

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Dixie as an echo is a possibility but I'm not sure if that would actually happen or not, she's been planned as a presumably unique character in the past, meaning sakurai saw unique potential in her, and he never attempted to add her as a clone in either Brawl or Smash 4 as well. And while her popularity isn't what k rool or ridley is she is still a decently popular long time request to the point that making her an echo would also feel disappointing that I'm not sure sakurai would even go for it.

There's also the fact that we're months in with 4 echo characters revealed, I'd think that given that she's pretty popular she'd be one of the first revealed than leaving us hanging for months.

Maybe I'm biased and really don't want her to be an echo but I'm really just not sure.

And her being a unique character is obviously hindered by the fact that there are more popular characters than her.
The fact that she was paired with Diddy originally makes me think her moveset was never wholly original.
If she did not play somewhat similarly to Diddy, then it wouldnt feel like Dixie.
I'm hoping that she will be a Diddy with DKs special up, and a hover mechanic like Rayman and Tails.
If Dixie were revealed, I think it would be like Dark Samus, as in, after the main character. It would have been anticlimactic to start with Dixie.
Honestly, there isnt an Echo character I'm more confident in than Dixie. Not even Isabelle.

I was against her inclusion as an echo for a while, but Chrom really changed my perspective.
 

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I'm not confident to the point of putting money down on anyone, but I think Geno and Bandana Dee are both pretty likely, due to the huge fan presence surrounding them. Isaac is up there too, but for some reason I have less faith in him.
I feel decently confident about Skull Kid too. I don't subscribe to any leaks, but his prolonged absence, the Moon AT not featuring him at all, and the fact that he's a popular figure is something I can't dismiss.

I also think Isabelle is very likely, but unfortunately only as an echo. I love her and I'd take it over nothing, but I will defend the concept of a unique Isabelle to my final breath.
 
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Personally surprised more people aren't picking Black Knight. There must be something up if he's been replaced by an random red knight in the background on that Fire Emblem stage. Hmmm...
 
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Alright dude, I want you to answer this.... why does it make you ill?
Is it that you think the game should come complete and not make new content afterward?
Is it that you dont think Smash games have enough content?
I really do want to understand.... I dont see how anyone who spends so much time on this forum (i.e. any) would not want more Smash content to come over time.
I hate what the whole DLC "Season Pass" scheme has done for the gaming landscape in general. If they want to put more characters in Smash but don't have enough time before release and put them out as DLC, that's understandable. But the words mentioned that I agree with were "Season Pass".

To me, "Season Pass" indicates a pre planned set of characters and stages that won't be included in the main game, but will instead provide revenue for future sales. (We didn't use to have this, and people still made money off of games).

So to reiterate- I have no problem with DLC. I don't like the idea of Smash Bros Season Pass.
 
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One hour left until we see what the next step this Direct goose chase turns out to be. Unfortunately I don't have my Scott the Woz meme folder on me so this is the best I can do.

I'm betting on either nothing or something that isn't Mario, hopefully something that isn't a franchise a part of the roster?
 

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I hate what the whole DLC "Season Pass" scheme has done for the gaming landscape in general. If they want to put more characters in Smash but don't have enough time before release and put them out as DLC, that's understandable. But the words mentioned that I agree with were "Season Pass".

To me, "Season Pass" indicates a pre planned set of characters and stages that won't be included in the main game, but will instead provide revenue for future sales. (We didn't use to have this, and people still made money off of games).

So to reiterate- I have no problem with DLC. I don't like the idea of Smash Bros Season Pass.
Thanks dude, its why I wanted to ask (in general), but you specifically.

The more I think about Geno, the more I consider him unlikely... I dont understand why he is discussed as if he is a first party character, and I dont know if he is worth the trouble of obtaining, particularly from Square, who dont seem to respect all that the Nintendo can do.
Particularly to a franchise that as of now, Nintendo cannot even restart or resale. The SNES classic is great...but if we dont actually get a virtual console, where will most people play SMRPG? Instead we have Paper Mario and Mario and Luigi as actual Nintendo mascots (read: Mario), and RPG.

I dunno... I think Geno may be that echochamber character that does not actually make it in.

Or I'm wrong. And in being wrong I can enjoy him more.
 
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Personally surprised more people aren't picking Black Knight. There must be something up if he's been replaced by an random red knight in the background on that Fire Emblem stage. Hmmm...
I remember hearing people say it was never the Black Knight in the first place in the background. Like it was just a knight. I don't play FE though so I wouldn't be able to tell, I just remember seeing that as a counter argument.
 

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The fact that she was paired with Diddy originally makes me think her moveset was never wholly original.
If she did not play somewhat similarly to Diddy, then it wouldnt feel like Dixie.
I'm hoping that she will be a Diddy with DKs special up, and a hover mechanic like Rayman and Tails.
If Dixie were revealed, I think it would be like Dark Samus, as in, after the main character. It would have been anticlimactic to start with Dixie.
Honestly, there isnt an Echo character I'm more confident in than Dixie. Not even Isabelle.

I was against her inclusion as an echo for a while, but Chrom really changed my perspective.
She was paired with diddy but they would've likely been a tag team like in the DKC games, allowing them to switch out with one another where they would have separate movesets. There's not much point in what is essentially a transforming character if they did play the same.

I'm fairly certain she was planned to be unique, and that's why she was never made into a diddy clone in brawl as well, it's just a question of whether or not sakurai would go back on his original intent with dixie.
 
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Here’s a fun little game I found. Either treat them together or treat them seperately, it’s your choice:

Chart 1: Incineroar, Amaterasu, Spring Man, Black Knight, Azura, Ken, Waddle Dee, Lloyd

Chart 2: Paper Mario, Geno, Decidueye, Monster Hunter, Rayman, Shantae, Elma, Galacta Knight
Y'know,
I know this is a variation of the dumb point games...

But I like em, so **** it.

24 days no. 1.
5: Skullkid
5: Sora
3: Ameterasu
3: Bomberman
3: Lloyd
3: Springman
1: Protoman
1: Medusa

24 days no. 2.
5. Chrono
5. Celica
5. Geno
3. LYN
3. Tetra
1. Ghirahim
1. Elma
1. Monster Hunter

To make sure my post wasn't a complete waste of brain space, have some cool fanart


If this don't make you want Monhun in Smash, I don't know what will.
 
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Here’s a fun little game I found. Either treat them together or treat them seperately, it’s your choice:

Chart 1: Incineroar, Amaterasu, Spring Man, Black Knight, Azura, Ken, Waddle Dee, Lloyd

Paper Mario, Geno, Decidueye, Monster Hunter, Rayman, Shantae, Elma, Galacta Knight
Chart 1: Waluigi, Skull Kid, Banjo-Kazooie, Impa, Gardevoir, Spring Man, Bandana Dee
Chart 2: Geno, Shantae, Chibi Robo, Elma, Decidueye, Black Shadow, Rayman
 

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He could potentially be a boss fight. BK towering over guys like Bowser and K. Rool would look off, but it's still possible.
Hmmm that's personally a fair point. Still there's also the fact he appears as a Mii costume in Smash 4. Yes I'm well aware some of those didn't make the cut like Zero but just food for thought.

To be fair too they Dracula towering. Couldn't be that hard to do with Black Knight as well.
 
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Here’s a fun little game I found. Either treat them together or treat them seperately, it’s your choice:

Chart 1: Incineroar, Amaterasu, Spring Man, Black Knight, Azura, Ken, Waddle Dee, Lloyd

Chart 2: Paper Mario, Geno, Decidueye, Monster Hunter, Rayman, Shantae, Elma, Galacta Knight
I have to put the remaining value next to them or I'll loose track entirely

Chart 1: Gardevoir (23), Dixie(20), BWD (17), Spring Man(14), Tetra (11), Banjo Kazooie (6), Birdo (5), Ashely (4), Black Knight (3), Ken(2), Impa(1), Medusa (0)

Chart 2: Elma(21), Shantae(20), Geno(15), Paper Mario (10), Rayman, Lyn, Chun-li, Chibi robo
 

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Here’s a fun little game I found. Either treat them together or treat them seperately, it’s your choice:

Chart 1: Incineroar, Amaterasu, Spring Man, Black Knight, Azura, Ken, Waddle Dee, Lloyd

Chart 2: Paper Mario, Geno, Decidueye, Monster Hunter, Rayman, Shantae, Elma, Galacta Knight
Chart 1: Sora, Ameterasu, Bandana Dee, Ken, Proto Man, Banjo, Skull Kid, Gardevoir.

Chart 2: Geno, Lyn, Paper Mario, Shantae, Eggman, Elma, Chibi Robo, Ghiraheim.
 

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Eh... this wasnt a quartet, and I reject your equivocation of Ridley and K Rool to Isaac and Geno.

I love them all, especially the first three. But no, Isaac and Geno are very different from Ridley and K Rool.
In terms of being characters with active demand since Brawl?

Yes they are.
https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/427623014/#427627801
Geno is also highly possible. He would complete the "Holy Trinity of Holy ****" with Ridley and K Rool of fan requests.
https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/427178306
Think about it. The holy trinity. Ridley, Rool, and Geno. He's the final piece of the fanservice puzzle.
Dude he's been part of the meme team since Brawl, are you underage by any chance
**** off new***. Ridley and Geno were THE most requested characters during the Brawl days. Even K. Rool was behind them.
https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/427100661/#427100661
The Holy Trinity will be completed in Smash Ultimate whether you like it or not, fellas. Ridley's in, K. Rool's in, now it's Geno's turn.
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/76891600
Topic: The holy trinity of most wanted characters is almost complete!
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/76882374
Topic: the holy trinity
Through everything I’ve heard and seen, and what many others have said, there’s a trinity characters so highly and ridiculously requested for Smash, yet all three seemed impossible for various reasons

Ridley
King K. Rool
And Geno

And Ridley and K. Rool just got confirmed

While I did scream from happiness from King K. Rool, this also means it might finally be time for the trinity to be complete soon
Dang it now I can’t wait for the next direct so badly I need my boy Geno
There's debate between Isaac and Geno being the third member of the "trinity," but both are equally important, so I count them both.
 
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In terms of being characters with active demand since Brawl?

Yes they are.
https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/427623014/#427627801

https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/427178306



https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/427100661/#427100661

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There's debate between Isaac and Geno being the third member of the "trinity," but both are equally important to me, so I count them both.
We could always just have one of the two fill the middle.

I'm surprised that hasn't been a plot point in a Zelda game yet. :V
 

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In terms of being characters with active demand since Brawl?

Yes they are.
https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/427623014/#427627801

https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/427178306



https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/427100661/#427100661

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There's debate between Isaac and Geno being the third member of the "trinity," but both are equally important to me, so I count them both.
I think that some of the Smash fanbase might say they are equivalent. But theres really nothing similar about them.
One is a third party that is unlikely to be seen again.
One is not important to his series.
One is unknown to other gamers.

I actually like Geno. I promise. But theres not a comparison to be made.

Geno can make it in the game, its even possible. We dont need to sully his actual reasoning by pretending he is more important to gaming than he is. Or that the masses of gamers know him more than they do.

He is a niche character who has a lot of support. Let's accept reality.

I know three is a nice round number, but Ridley and K Rool dont have a counterpart. Bandana Dee is the closest. Who cares if he wasnt popular in Brawl? That may be when speculation scenes got big, but it isnt the dawn of gaming, forums, or even Smash.

EDIT: All of your references are game forums. That's not a sample survey. I am aware he has a very vocal fanbase on the internet, I'm a part of it.
If 1 million people call a frog a tree, it does not make that frog a tree. Especially if the silent 100 million know its a frog.
 
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My estimate for a Smash Direct is about sometime around September 13th ( if I actually called it.. That would be cool )
 

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wow... no music update? the thick plottens!

what is the word of street?
Another late update.

Same as always.
I think that some of the Smash fanbase might say they are equivalent. But theres really nothing similar about them.
One is a third party that is unlikely to be seen again.
One is not important to his series.
One is unknown to other gamers.

I actually like Geno. I promise. But theres not a comparison to be made.

Geno can make it in the game, its even possible. We dont need to sully his actual reasoning by pretending he is more important to gaming than he is. Or that the masses of gamers know him more than they do.

He is a niche character who has a lot of support. Let's accept reality.

I know three is a nice round number, but Ridley and K Rool dont have a counterpart. Bandana Dee is the closest. Who cares if he wasnt popular in Brawl? That may be when speculation scenes got big, but it isnt the dawn of gaming, forums, or even Smash.
???

You just explained K. Rool though?
 
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Imagine losing the whole point of my post so hard you fall into the same fallacies I'm condemning
But I don't think it's a bad trend since it lends itself to move set discussion and might force people to think creatively. I can understand your frustration if you think people should not dismiss a character because they themselves can't think of a moveset, but I'm just saying Sakurai sometimes runs into trouble with movesets as well, but I think he loves the challenge.
If you were to ask if I felt stuck in a rut continuously working on the same series, I would have to disagree. It takes a lot of ingenuity to come up with a way to implement seemingly impossible characters into the game.
https://sourcegaming.info/2018/06/28/smash-is-special-part-2-sakurais-famitsu-column-vol-558/
Which is why I said the move set rests with the creator, though I think it's still fine to speculate on which characters could have an interesting move set, or to share ideas for move sets for characters that people previously thought couldn't have any. Honestly in the discussion board if someone says "This character doesn't have a move set", you are free to interject and say "no, the move set could be this, this, and this", so I don't see it as a big issue. From there, the conversation could progress to move set discussion which I think is positive since this is a video game and move set is one of the most important things.
 
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