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I completely agree. It just so happens that in this case, Melee is the most fun Smash to watch, so top Melee players' advice would more than likely make for improvements over other Smash games (minus Hungrybox).
Okay, first of all, why remove Hungrybox, yet every other pro player is fine? Sounds like someone doesn't want the Puff buffed
Because I was talking about making the game fun to watch, and Jigglypuff isn't fun to watch.Okay, first of all, why remove Hungrybox, yet every other pro player is fine? Sounds like someone doesn't want the Puff buffed
Second, again, Capcom's latest fighting games games had a lot of input from pro players. The latest three had a ton of controversy.
And how would not getting advice from a Puff main help?
...Because Hungrybox's playstyle is not fun to watch, and his suggestions would presumably effect that kind of playstyle?
Just because someone suggests something doesn't mean it'll immediately be put in the game.
What exclusivity?
I don't want just any character to make it into the game. I'm fine with a new director as long as Sakurai chooses who gets in.
Low due to Toon Link basically being the same character but this boy proved me wrong beforeNeeds some buffs and has to compete with newer AND Gen 1 Pokemon, so unlikleyIf the Swtich can handle 16 characters on screen at once then why not? They'd be fun esp. since chaingrabbing got nerfed.Unless the two below return and can be played individually or as a team with , I don't see itA lot of Pokemon to compete against but was a popular Gen 1 Pokemon. That's a VIP pass basicallyPoor, filling a slot Ivysaur. You were so fun to play as, but I can't see you returningLucas got back as DLC so I don't see why not. Plus SFZ finally gave Star Wolf land vehicles to use (in a sense)Konami has pulled back slightly on their "burn games section to the ground and divert it to PACHINKO" stance but still unlikley to me.
That's because everything is about what you want. I want actually unbiased decisions in the roster.
Sakurai isn't unbiased. In fact the very idea of being unbiased in choosing characters for smash is absurd. Are you advocating for some kind of algorithm based on sales and recency?
I'm saying he doesn't just put in whatever characters he wants based on whether or not he likes them. Of course everyone's biased, it's just to what extent. And for the most part that IS how he's made decisions.
I said I'm afraid that MAY happen. How the hell am I supposed to know?
Well, it's the only way K. Rool and Ridley can get in at this point, so it's not like it won't make fans happy anyway
That's what I'm afraid of. Sometimes listening to the fans is a REALLY bad idea. Not necessarily for those specific characters.Well, it's the only way K. Rool and Ridley can get in at this point, so it's not like it won't make fans happy anyway
Let's be honest,
& are in it. Along with the little LCD man on Nintendo's obscure pre-gameboy handheld.
That's funny, cuz Sonic games are an example of when listening to fans is a bad idea.
I don't see what you're talking about.
Yeah, but Sonic went through a phase of either listening to their fans too much or not listening enough. Sonic Lost World and Forces are a good example of that.I don't see what you're talking about.
Sonic Mania was made by Sonic fans and is actually better than anything Sonic Team did in the past 15 to 20 years
Listening to fans doesn't always lead to ****, dude.
destroys this inane theory.That I believe was a case of Nintendo not listening to fans ENOUGH rather than too much. By the time we got New Super Mario Bros. Wii, no one wanted another New Super Mario Bros. game. Not to mention they completely disregarded them in rosters like Mario Kart 8 and Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash. And do I even need to bring up Mario Party: The Top 100?
So long as we don't get Yoda and Darth Vader it's all good.
Literally every character you listed there is an All-Star.Since when has the Smash roster ever been an "exclusive game for Nintendo's greatest all-stars only"? In fact, the presence of characters like
Now explain Ice Climbers and Pit.
Sakurai already did. Stop being ridiculous.
Toad is an all-star.
It'd be nice to actually show evidence of that instead of just saying "Sakurai said it, you're ridiculous."
Some of this seems like you're retroactively deeming them All-Stars. Especially Game and Watch, who technically wasn't even a character before Melee.
Inklings and Isabelle are two of the standouts IMO.
Ideally, two of them. Favorably K.Rool and whoever else.
- Probably not. Toon Link is him in all but looks. Make him an alt of - He's in the boat Dr.Mario was in, except he probably wouldn't be planned to be an alt./- Definitely. They had them working on Wii U.- Probably Not.- He's in an odd spot. I say yes for port and no for new game- Like Squirtle, but slightly more likely than it.- 50/50.[/QUOTE]
What exactly is your definition of "All Star" here, might I ask?
K. Rool, as far as I'm concerned. Dixie is up there, too, imo.
Half of these arguments you make have to do with releases and events at the time of their Smash debut. You also seem to be retroactively deeming some of them them all-stars.
was added in Melee as a last-second clone alongside the other clones. Her status as a Generation II Pokemon may have influenced her inclusion, but that wasn't the end-all be-all. , yes, while the Game & Watch consoles played a big role in Nintendo's early history, Mr. Game & Watch himself was literally introduced in Melee., as mentioned, was included because she was popular in the anime at the time Smash 64 was being made. Trust me, if this series was about "Nintendo's Greatest All-Stars", she wouldn't be coming back. She wasn't even that prominent compared to other characters actually, though her being a semi-clone of Kirby helped her case. were literally only included because of Pokemon Trainer. If he wasn't considered for Brawl, then we would have just gotten Charizard, if at all. Smash 4 is proof of that. is an alternate form of Mario to begin with pretty much makes him the opposite of an All-Star. In fact, if anything, all he does is just make Mario himself more of an all-star. The same could be said for There are still a few. Toad/Captain Toad is probably the most notable though.
Lower standards than desperate drunks at last call.
