Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[StormC]

Banjo-Kazooie is revealed next month.

Isaac is revealed in October.

The hype is through the roof! How can Sakurai top this?! He's definitely going to go all out on the last character! Praise the ballot! Goku, here we come!

...

"This party's getting crazy! Let's rock!"

Salt would be Bayonetta x10. Meanwhile, everyone tries to be Sakurai's BFF after he puts in Kojima and Kamiya's characters in Smash.

 

[Iridium]

So anything happen at Gamescom yet?

Only these for Smash so far.

 

[Blue7113]

So, if Dante is in and he has access to his guns...

... you know what that means

Spoiler

Ewwww

 

[Dukeofdeath5]

Anything with dark colors or designs is called edgy these days. Edgy is such an overused word. Even if it's used appropriately it kinda bothers me when I see it now.

I feel the exact same way about cringe

 

[KMDP]

yeah man i know that feel

Square and Sony's messy "breakup" with Nintendo is one of the most infamous periods of gaming history.

Cloud is kind of associated with Nintendo (outside of FF1-6 being Nintendo games) in pretty much the same way Sonic is.

 

[Will]

Alright so I never played a DmC but looking at this, I get Bayonetta vibes. That is a very good thing. Put him in Smash plz.

Never play DmC.
Only play DMC games.

Also Hideki Kamiya made both DmC and Bayonetta

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Let's keep an eye on the following

Smash Blog
Smash Twitter
Smash Facebook
Camelot Twitter/Facebook
Wayforward Twitter/Facebook
Ubisoft Twitter/Facebook.

Add Capcom to the list if this DMC rumor holds water.

Didn't think Roll would have this much competition but...

 

[blazefan519]

Speaking of those videos, do you guys think we'll get them every day for Gamescon? Maybe they can focus on characters that weren't in the demo?

 

[Zippo]

Alright so I never played a DmC but looking at this, I get Bayonetta vibes. That is a very good thing. Put him in Smash plz.

Bayonetta was literally created by the same creator of Devil May Cry. It's a full on spiritual successor. Bayonetta only exists because of Dante.

 

[Wambo]

Anything with dark colors or designs is called edgy these days. Edgy is such an overused word. Even if it's used appropriately it kinda bothers me when I see it now.

Seeing it used for something in the wrong context also ruins whatever it's mocking for me. I'm not allowed to like Dark Samus in the Metroid Prime games anymore, because "haha, dark evil character is edgy, haha".

 

[Will]

Square and Sony's messy "breakup" with Nintendo is one of the most infamous periods of gaming history.

Cloud is kind of associated with Nintendo (outside of FF1-6 being Nintendo games) in pretty much the same way Sonic is.

So you're saying Sony is Nintendo's ex?

 

[DarkFalcon]

I feel the exact same way about cringe

What's funny is I almost used cringe but I knew others felt that cringe was overused so I didn't.

 

[Arcadenik]

Dante is cool, but the fact that he has literally no familiarity with Nintendo in himself or his series is pretty funny. I don't think he doesn't fit, because the heavy-combo style of his that mimics Bayonetta (or well vice versa is the reality) is pretty applicable. Don't judge a book by its cover.
I'm really only advocating for two other 3rd Parties, and they're biased as hell. At least they have Nintendo on their early belt.

Ryu Hayabusa from Ninja Gaiden and Fulgore from Killer Instinct would be awesome!

I am almost fully satisfied with third-party. I just need Banjo-Kazooie.

Some third-party characters filling in the void for Banjo-Kazooie (and Toad and Meowth) I would like to see are Scorpion from Mortal Kombat, Terry Bogard from Fatal Fury and The King of Fighters, a Dragon Quest character (I like DQ8 Hero the best), Shantae, Shovel Knight, and Quote from Cave Story. There are many more third-party characters I’d like to see but the ones I just listed are the ones I like best.

 

[Thirdkoopa]

Banjo-Kazooie is revealed next month.

Isaac is revealed in October.

The hype is through the roof! How can Sakurai top this?! He's definitely going to go all out on the last character! Praise the ballot! Goku, here we come!

...

"Party time!"

Salt would be Bayonetta x10. Meanwhile, everyone tries to be Sakurai's BFF after he puts in Kojima and Kamiya's characters in Smash.

pfft Dante is a way better add than Goku.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

I’m hearing the Gamescom demo build will, in fact, be the E3 build YET AGAIN and those Chrom/DS/K. Rool vids are from a Nintendo YouTube Channel-only build.

Can anyone confirm or deny? Probably not yet cause it’s not open to the public yet but I would HATE if we got the E3 build for the millionth time

 

[Noipoi]

Speaking of those videos, do you guys think we'll get them every day for Gamescon? Maybe they can focus on characters that weren't in the demo?

Hopefully. New gameplay is always welcome.

 

[blazefan519]

Never play DmC.
Only play DMC games.

Also Hideki Kamiya made both DmC and Bayonetta

Bayonetta was literally created by the same creator of Devil May Cry. It's a full on spiritual successor. Bayonetta only exists because of Dante.

Ah, I was not aware. Makes a lot of sense now lol.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

Seeing it used for something in the wrong context also ruins whatever it's mocking for me. I'm not allowed to like Dark Samus in the Metroid Prime games anymore, because "haha, dark evil character is edgy, haha".

"Wolf is just too edgy for me."

 

[KMDP]

So you're saying Sony is Nintendo's ex?

Considering the Playstation was going to be a Nintendo console originally before Nintendo and Sony had a falling out... Technically, yeah.

 

[Rikka]

If those recent matches were from gamescon, the videos wouldn't look like that, I'm fairly sure.

 

[Will]

I’m hearing the Gamescom demo build will, in fact, be the E3 build YET AGAIN and those Chrom/DS/K. Rool vids are from a Nintendo YouTube Channel-only build.

Can anyone confirm or deny? Probably not yet cause it’s not open to the public yet but I would HATE if we got the E3 build for the millionth time

Realistically it probably is the same demo.
Europe always gets things last.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

So, if Dante is in and he has access to his guns...

... you know what that means

Spoiler

Hah! Nice.

Real talk, if Shadow is in, I hope Shadow the Hedgehog gets some tunes.

 

[blazefan519]

I’m hearing the Gamescom demo build will, in fact, be the E3 build YET AGAIN and those Chrom/DS/K. Rool vids are from a Nintendo YouTube Channel-only build.

Can anyone confirm or deny? Probably not yet cause it’s not open to the public yet but I would HATE if we got the E3 build for the millionth time

God I hope not. After that new footage of characters we haven't seen, I'd hate for it to go back to the same build.

Hah! Nice.

Real talk, if Shadow is in, I hope Shadow the Hedgehog gets some tunes.

Gimme Throw It All Away and I'll be a happy gal.

 

[Deleted member]

"Wolf is just too edgy for me."

Mario is my cutoff for edginess. A character like Wolf is way too far over my line.

 

[Imadethistoseealeak]

I’m hearing the Gamescom demo build will, in fact, be the E3 build YET AGAIN and those Chrom/DS/K. Rool vids are from a Nintendo YouTube Channel-only build.

Can anyone confirm or deny? Probably not yet cause it’s not open to the public yet but I would HATE if we got the E3 build for the millionth time

Source Gaming said something cryptic about it being the same build but different??? Either it's the E3 build or it's the same content but gameplay updated. Almost definitely no King, Simon, DS etc unfortunately.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

"Wolf is just too edgy for me."

Given that his fashion sense is like a Fist of the North Star character, I would take offense to that.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Never play DmC.
Only play DMC games.

Also Hideki Kamiya made both DmC and Bayonetta

He also created the Resident Evil character Leon Kennedy too.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Though on the topic of Sonic music, it's a crime this beast of a villain theme isn't in Smash

 

[Thirdkoopa]

The only character ever to break the boundary Sakurai set of "Has to have appeared on a Nintendo console first" is, ironically, Roy.

 

[blazefan519]

Source Gaming said something cryptic about it being the same build but different??? Either it's the E3 build or it's the same content but gameplay updated. Almost definitely no King, Simon, DS etc unfortunately.

So it's not entirely the same build from E3? So maybe it's gameplay changes, stages, and options, and possibly more vets?

Though on the topic of Sonic music, it's a crime this beast of a villain theme isn't in Smash

Ah I see you are a man of culture as well. You know what, how about we just bring in every Sonic vocal track. If we don't get any new remixes at least let me have that.

 

[Will]

Oh yeah, K. Rool having his own fanfare.
poor ****ing sakurai just gave him the sword and redesign but said "nah he can have the same theme who cares".

 

[Imadethistoseealeak]

So it's not entirely the same build from E3? So maybe it's gameplay changes, stages, and options, and possibly more vets?

I'm thinking just gameplay changes, otherwise they would have said otherwise. I posted the tweet a bit ago, but it honestly didn't say much.

 

[Zinith]

Can I not like edgy characters anyomore?

Aww, sorry Boshi...

Wait... is he considered edgy?

 

[CyberHyperPhoenix]

Hah! Nice.

Real talk, if Shadow is in, I hope Shadow the Hedgehog gets some tunes.

>Sky Troops

Ah, I see you're a man of culture too...

Also, it's nice to get some footage of the newer characters, especially Chrom, that boi the main on day 1.

 

[Deleted member]

Can I not like edgy characters anyomore?

Aww, sorry Boshi...

Wait... is he considered edgy?

Yoshi is edgy, Boshi is like super mega edgy.

 

[blazefan519]

I'm thinking just gameplay changes, otherwise they would have said otherwise. I posted the tweet a bit ago, but it honestly didn't say much.

Well, that's a little disappointing but it's better than it being exactly the same. Was particularly hoping to see stage morph and final smash meter as options.

 

[Will]

I'm surprised K. Rool and Chrom/DS got footage but none of Simon and Richter.

 

[Rikka]

When it comes to "edgy" and character design, part of it is designer intent and how it is presented. So original Dante does come off as what an anime nerd would think is badass. But (at least since DMC3), Dante is always presented as a very cheesy character, and the whole thing is acknowledged to be very over the top to sometimes near parody levels. In comparison, DmC Dante is presented very serious, like the designers really believe they have a cool, dare I say edgy product. And that leaves a bad impression on everyone else, because it just feels very middle school Hot Topic.

If Wolf was someone's fursona, you'd know it was made by a 13 year old who thought he was very badass and very edgy. But Wolf's design has been through enough blenders that instead its just a bit over the top.

 

[Pakky]

Also

#getthehellouttamyhouse

 

[blazefan519]

I'm surprised K. Rool and Chrom/DS got footage but none of Simon and Richter.

Perhaps they're saving that for later?