Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Deleted member]

Wobbufett needs to return.

 

[Iridium]

Assuming that it's regardless of likelihood...

Banjo-Kazooie (5)
Rayman (9)
Heihachi (12)
Elma (14)
Travis Touchdown (15)

While I figure that Banjo-Kazooie stands little to no chance of actually getting in (on the slim-to-nonexistent chance that Microsoft somehow gets a character in Smash, they'd likely go with one that they actually use like Steve? or Master Chief), they would be amazing. I found Rayman's treatment in Smash 4 weird (they get permission to use the mascot of a major third party, and only include him as a trophy?), and Rayman Legends alone shows that he'd work perfectly.

From what little I've played of Tekken, Heihachi's my favourite to play as (plus it would be interesting to have a third party series represented by a villain), and I don't want Xenoblade Chronicles X to get lost in the shuffle given that it's been heavily overshadowed by 1 and 2. (though it was a close call here between Elma and Impa)

Travis Touchdown is 120% bias on my part; I just like the No More Heroes games.

Yep, regardless of likelihood.

 

[ChocolatGelgato]

Not sure if this has been shown here already, but I'll let you all make your choices first.

+5 Geno
+5 BWD
+3 Tails
+1 Karate Joe
+1 Viridi

Why the hell is tails cheaper than shadow tho lmao of course i'm gonna take the sonic character who would probably have an original moveset over the one who's likely an echo fighter.

 

[NintenRob]

Roster images to go with the analysis I made the other day (Thanks Mega)

Direct link: https://i.imgur.com/FZqNoNf.png

And here's a version with the echo icons merged with the originals:
Direct link: https://i.imgur.com/JszaTrx.png

And my reasoning
https://smashboards.com/threads/a-r...ndo-a-look-at-who-else-is-left-to-add.457434/

 

[Jedisupersonic]

Not sure if this has been shown here already, but I'll let you all make your choices first.

Isaac (5), Shadow (4), Blaziken (1), Heihachi (3), Lloyd (2)

 

[Roberk]

Y'all should know that the dancing lobster is everyone's favorite Lobster Lord.

 

[Noipoi]

Wobbufett needs to return.

I'm pretty sure Pyukumuku took it's place.

 

[Z25]

Y'all should know that the dancing lobster is everyone's favorite Lobster Lord.

This is why he has a dancing alt in heroes.

And I don’t know which post had it, but if Sora gets its as a square rep primarily.

I think that’s how sakurai would view and that he’s possible but then you have to get by Disney too unless there’s a way around that. So Sora could go either way but I’d love him in smash

 

[PeridotGX]

Decidueye (5)
Bandana Dee (10)
Octolings (12)
Ninten (14)
Blaziken (15)

 

[Deleted member]

The Amanda Show is my favorite Konami franchise...

Geno, Banjo and Kazooie and Decidueye.

 

[Opossum]

Not sure if this has been shown here already, but I'll let you all make your choices first.

(5) for Decidueye
(4) for Crash Bandicoot
(3) for Isabelle
(1) for Celica
(1) for Hector
(1) for Dig-Dug

I'd get pretty much my entire wishlist lol.

 

[DarkShadow20]

Not sure if this has been shown here already, but I'll let you all make your choices first.

Banjo, Geno, Crash, Ken

 

[Zinith]

Geno, Banjo and Kazooie and Decidueye.

You quoted the wrong person Shiny...

 

[ZephyrZ]

Not sure if this has been shown here already, but I'll let you all make your choices first.

(1) Hector (Yeah I know I said earlier he wouldn't bring anything really new move set wise but since this is a game I'm going to be selfish and bias anyway)
(2) Celica
(3) Viridi
(5) Dillon
(9) Skull Kid
(14) Decidueye

Well I'm out of points for Elma so I guess my last one goes to the Dancing Lobster. Between that and two FE characters the world is sure to burn.

 

[Mc.Rad]

Not sure if this has been shown here already, but I'll let you all make your choices first.

(15) Dancing Lobster Man

 

[Black Magician]

Not sure if this has been shown here already, but I'll let you all make your choices first.

JRPG fan here: Isaac (5), Shantae (4), Lloyd (2), Gardevoir (2), and is that a Warrior of Light between Gardevoir and Funky? If not, I'll plump for Impa instead (2).

 

[Zinith]

JRPG fan here: Isaac (5), Shantae (4), Lloyd (2), Gardevoir (2), and is that a Warrior of Light between Gardevoir and Funky? If not, I'll plump for Impa instead (2).

No that's the Hero from Dragon Quest I

 

[MoonlitIllusion]

Not sure if this has been shown here already, but I'll let you all make your choices first.

+3 Dixie kong
+2 Elma
+2 Impa
+5 Bandana Dee
+2 funky kong
+1 Celica (Idk anything about her but I needed to fill a spot and she has a cool design)

 

[Deleted member]

Not sure if this has been shown here already, but I'll let you all make your choices first.

Pfft, easy
(1)Hector
(4)Wonder-Red
(2)Dillon
(3)Isabelle
(1)Celica
(1)Blaziken
(2)Gardevoir
(1)That schoolgirl I don't know her name

This is why I would be the best Smash director possible

 

[MoonlitIllusion]

Roster images to go with the analysis I made the other day (Thanks Mega)

Direct link: https://i.imgur.com/FZqNoNf.png

And here's a version with the echo icons merged with the originals:
Direct link: https://i.imgur.com/JszaTrx.png

And my reasoning
https://smashboards.com/threads/a-r...ndo-a-look-at-who-else-is-left-to-add.457434/

I can't be alone in thinking diskun looks incredibly out of place...

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Not sure if this has been shown here already, but I'll let you all make your choices first.

1 - Celica
2- Elma
Another 2, making 5 total so far - Lloyd
Rex and Pyra bring it up to 9
Bandana Dee brings it up to 14
Not using my last point lol

 

[Iridium]

I can't be alone in thinking diskun looks incredibly out of place...

Oh, you're not alone. Probably because of no 3D model there.

 

[Roberk]

(1) Hector (Yeah I know I said earlier he wouldn't bring anything really new move set wise but since this is a game I'm going to be selfish and bias anyway)
(2) Celica
(3) Viridi
(5) Dillon
(9) Skull Kid
(14) Decidueye

Well I'm out of points for Elma so I guess my last one goes to the Dancing Lobster. Between that and two FE characters the world is sure to burn.

>Hector bringing nothing new moveset wise.
Dude.

Heavyweight with disjoints, throwing axes with unique trajectories, armor, etc. While axe disjoints seem similar to sword disjoints, they can still be functionally different and I'm sure they can whip something together with all of the axe animations in the franchise available to them. (Most axe users fit Hector's build, making it even easier.) Even then, Hector can simply pull from real life axe techniques. Plus, Smash Bros needs more dads.

 

[Zinith]

1 - Celica
2- Elma
Another 2, making 5 total so far - Lloyd
Rex and Pyra bring it up to 9
Bandana Dee brings it up to 14
Not using my last point lol

Just vote for Dancing Lobster and get it over with

 

[SonicMario]

Not sure if this has been shown here already, but I'll let you all make your choices first.

5 Banjo
4 Crash
3 Tails
2 Captain Toad
1 Karate Joe

 

[MoonlitIllusion]

Oh, you're not alone. Probably because of no 3D model there.

That's true but the choice itself is pretty strange, diskun is such an obscure character compared to our other retros and it's looking less likely we'll get a retro character

 

[Starbound]

Saw Tetra talk earlier. What would you think of her as a Toon Link echo? Retexture the sword for a sabre, and the Final Smash can be a transformation into Toon Zelda where she does Zelda's own Final Smash.

Further differentiation can be done with the bombs, making them cannonballs. They don't explode and do more damage when thrown. idk.

Not sure if this has been shown here already, but I'll let you all make your choices first.

Can I pick characters not on this list for 1 point?

Depending on that answer, I made two lists:

Spoiler: Only Picture Picks

4: Shantae
9: Isaac
12: Paper Mario
14: Lloyd
15: Celica

Spoiler: If any character counts

4: Shantae
5: Phoenix Wright
6: Celica
9: Paper Mario
10: Terra Branford
15: Isaac

 

[Iridium]

Saw Tetra talk earlier. What would you think of her as a Toon Link echo? Retexture the sword for a sabre, and the Final Smash can be a transformation into Toon Zelda where she does Zelda's own Final Smash.

Further differentiation can be done with the bombs, making them cannonballs. They don't explode and do more damage when thrown. idk.

Can I pick characters not on this list for 1 point?

Depending on that answer, I made two lists:

Spoiler: Only Picture Picks

4: Shantae
9: Isaac
12: Paper Mario
14: Lloyd
15: Celica

Spoiler: If any character counts

4: Shantae
5: Phoenix Wright
6: Celica
9: Paper Mario
10: Terra Branford
15: Isaac

Well, if you want to, sure!

 

[ThreeT]

1 - Celica
2- Elma
Another 2, making 5 total so far - Lloyd
Rex and Pyra bring it up to 9
Bandana Dee brings it up to 14
Not using my last point lol

Karate Joe though...

 

[Zinith]

Well, if you want to, sure!

Wait, I can? Well in that case...

5 Geno
4 Skull Kid
3 Spyro
2 Elma
1 BOSHI!!!

Sorry Gex, but the Yoshis take priority

 

[ZephyrZ]

Here's a horrible idea that will never happen or work - Decidueye as a Falco echo.

Firebird is swapped out for Charizard's Fly.
Falco Phantasm is renamed Phantom Force.
Neutral B is swapped out for Dark Pit's Arrow, renamed Spirit Shackle.
Down B is swapped out with Mega Man's, renamed Leafage

While we're at it, let's make Midnight Lycanrock and echo of Wolf!

Up-B is renamed Rock Climb.
Side-B is renamed Accelrock
Neutral-B is and renamed Hyper Beam, given more power and speed but also a lot more endlag. He keeps the gun because creative liberties.
Down-B is swapped out for Counter.

Dang, I should really get into the business of fake leaks.

>Hector bringing nothing new moveset wise.
Dude.

Heavyweight with disjoints, throwing axes with unique trajectories, armor, etc. While axe disjoints seem similar to sword disjoints, they can still be functionally different and I'm sure they can whip something together with all of the axe animations in the franchise available to them. (Most axe users fit Hector's build, making it even easier.) Even then, Hector can simply pull from real life axe techniques. Plus, Smash Bros needs more dads.

Here's the thing though. Even if he has some differences, his overall moveset would still be similar to Ike's on a very basic level - a heavyweight with disjoints. It's just that his pointy stick of choice and the way that he swings it that would be different. I guess it's not a lack of moveset potential is his problem, it's his potential play style that is already covered. Unless they find some gimmick to set him apart like with Cloud's limit, that is.

 

[Iridium]

That's true but the choice itself is pretty strange, diskun is such an obscure character compared to our other retros and it's looking less likely we'll get a retro character

I would also say Qbert is just as obscure too. I do like seeing retro characters in Smash though, so I just appreciate what I get.

 

[Deleted member]

(1)That schoolgirl I don't know her name

Ayumi Tachibana, a character from Famicom Detective Club.

 

[Momotsuki]

Ayumi Tachibana, a character from Famicom Detective Club.

I think she would make an excellent "...What? Who?" addition.

 

[Starbound]

Wait, I can? Well in that case...

5 Geno
4 Skull Kid
3 Spyro
2 Elma
1 BOSHI!!!

Sorry Gex, but the Yoshis take priority

Honestly surprised you didn't spend all 15 points on Yoshi characters...

 

[Opossum]

>Hector bringing nothing new moveset wise.
Dude.

Heavyweight with disjoints, throwing axes with unique trajectories, armor, etc. While axe disjoints seem similar to sword disjoints, they can still be functionally different and I'm sure they can whip something together with all of the axe animations in the franchise available to them. (Most axe users fit Hector's build, making it even easier.) Even then, Hector can simply pull from real life axe techniques. Plus, Smash Bros needs more dads.

Out of curiosity I decided to make a list of all the dads in Smash.
(Needed for Priam to exist)(obviously confirmed considering he has canonical descendants)(if you make a Mii of a dad)ultchrom:(see Marth)

As well as potentially any of the Pokémon sans Mewtwo and Pika Libre, due to the breeding mechanic.

 

[Zinith]

Honestly surprised you didn't spend all 15 points on Yoshi characters...

Even I'M not that creative when it comes to Yoshi

 

[TMNTSSB4]

When nobody is saying Sora

There are bigger priorities than Sora

 

[SquashiniKun]

CHALLENGE

Create an original final boss for the "Spirits Mode", and how their boss fight would go.

 

[Starbound]

Out of curiosity I decided to make a list of all the dads in Smash.
(Needed for Priam to exist)(obviously confirmed considering he has canonical descendants)(if you make a Mii of a dad)ultchrom:(see Marth)

As well as potentially any of the Pokémon sans Mewtwo and Pika Libre, due to the breeding mechanic.

Yoshi fathered that ungrateful Baby Mario by lugging that toddler all around an island in the middle of the ocean.

I think that counts.

Even I'M not that creative when it comes to Yoshi

It's ez.

Spoiler

1: Boshi
2: Birdo (if we're going all out with Boshi)
3: Shy Guy
4: Fly Guy
5: Rapheal the Raven
6: Watermelon Monkey
7: Baby Mario
8: Super Baby Mario
9: Kamek
10: Baseball Boy
11: Baby Bowser
12: Poochy
13: Yarn Yoshi
14: Yarn Poochy
15: Baby Wario

...I had to resist the urge to spend all 15 points on Ace Attorney, Mario, Pokemon or FE characters multiple times...