Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[SquashiniKun]

New August Direct Rumor on Gamefaqs.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/76855937

Spoiler

If you wanna believe me asap, Mr. Game and Watch's character trailer will be shown off on the blog tonight. Come back here after it happens.

- Nintendo Direct in August, illustrates new game mode to unlock characters, shows off the menu, shows off more final smashes and some other tweaks, reveals a few more returning stages and 1 new one plus New Donk City.

- I have no info on the new character revealed in August direct.

- Chrom isn't an echo fighter, he's still in Robin's final smash. It hasn't been shown off because they added other characters to it.

- New Donk City is a traveling stage. Not much else to say, imagine Delfino Plaza or Skyloft but New Donk City instead.

- R.O.B. and Peach both have completely new Final Smashes. Several other characters like Yoshi and Diddy Kong have the same Final Smash, except Diddy's is practically a clone of Snake's mechanically now and Yoshi's is just a cutscene Final Smash. Several other final smashes have some cosmetic tweaks.

- Brinstar, Corneria, Fountain of Dreams, Yoshi's Island (Brawl), Delfino Plaza, Hanenbow, Reset Bomb Forest, Gerudo Valley and Gamer are shown off as returning stages in the direct.

- Assist trophies are also shown off. Isaac, Magalor, Blue*, Celica, Chibi Robo, Lottie, DK Jr., The Helmasaur King, and King K Rool are all shown off in a compilation.
*Blue simply releases a bunch of Pokeballs at random.

- There are also a few new/returning items. Fan and DK Barrel are back. Ramblin' Mushroom, Toothbrush (Chibi Robo), and the speed shoes from Sonic are all new items shown off.

- The one new stage is Patched Plains from Kirby.

- Simon and Isabelle are also both legit things. Isabelle is not an echo of Villager but several of her moves seem to be borrowed. She's like Luigi is to Mario.

- I know of more info but I'll just leave it with the stuff revealed at the direct as later stuff is subject to change. Also I don't want to be the first to break news of newcomers.

Fortunately the deadline is tonight. So we'll know this rumor's fate in a few hours.

I swear to god if this leak is true then i'm going to take a piss in a Coke can and drink it.

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

Peeps talked here about Taizo Hori?

Sadly I was too late for the discussion.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

...
But the very moment you put the name out there, you've increased the number of people who wouldn't necessarily be utterly confused about him.

They'd still think "Why?" but not "Who?"

Good point.

Fortunately, I still haven't mentioned some seemingly unlikely but still possible characters.

 

[Cosmic77]

I swear to god if this leak is true then i'm going to take a piss in a Coke can and drink it.

Don't make promises you don't intend to keep.

 

[KMDP]

Some people are into that.

Don't Google it.

I think Zinith knows that.
EDIT: 'd by the man himself.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

So if the rumor of more people besides Chrom being added to Robin’s FS is true, who would you expect? Frederick? Lissa? Sumia? Lon’qu? Tharja?

 

[Mc.Rad]

Don't make promises you don't intend to keep.

And also those that those types of people want to see

 

[ReeseBalaski]

New August Direct Rumor on Gamefaqs.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/76855937

Spoiler

If you wanna believe me asap, Mr. Game and Watch's character trailer will be shown off on the blog tonight. Come back here after it happens.

- Nintendo Direct in August, illustrates new game mode to unlock characters, shows off the menu, shows off more final smashes and some other tweaks, reveals a few more returning stages and 1 new one plus New Donk City.

- I have no info on the new character revealed in August direct.

- Chrom isn't an echo fighter, he's still in Robin's final smash. It hasn't been shown off because they added other characters to it.

- New Donk City is a traveling stage. Not much else to say, imagine Delfino Plaza or Skyloft but New Donk City instead.

- R.O.B. and Peach both have completely new Final Smashes. Several other characters like Yoshi and Diddy Kong have the same Final Smash, except Diddy's is practically a clone of Snake's mechanically now and Yoshi's is just a cutscene Final Smash. Several other final smashes have some cosmetic tweaks.

- Brinstar, Corneria, Fountain of Dreams, Yoshi's Island (Brawl), Delfino Plaza, Hanenbow, Reset Bomb Forest, Gerudo Valley and Gamer are shown off as returning stages in the direct.

- Assist trophies are also shown off. Isaac, Magalor, Blue*, Celica, Chibi Robo, Lottie, DK Jr., The Helmasaur King, and King K Rool are all shown off in a compilation.
*Blue simply releases a bunch of Pokeballs at random.

- There are also a few new/returning items. Fan and DK Barrel are back. Ramblin' Mushroom, Toothbrush (Chibi Robo), and the speed shoes from Sonic are all new items shown off.

- The one new stage is Patched Plains from Kirby.

- Simon and Isabelle are also both legit things. Isabelle is not an echo of Villager but several of her moves seem to be borrowed. She's like Luigi is to Mario.

- I know of more info but I'll just leave it with the stuff revealed at the direct as later stuff is subject to change. Also I don't want to be the first to break news of newcomers.

Fortunately the deadline is tonight. So we'll know this rumor's fate in a few hours.

Ooh, a little something to look forward to tonight. If it's wrong, eh. Those were cool ideas at least.

If Game and Watch's video is tonight though... I wonder what kind of reaction would be had.

 

[Deleted member]

It would be cool if Charizard was his own character and a part of Pokemon trainer then we would have our beloved rock smash back

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Interested to see if this is real. Grain of salt, as usual.

Some of these are "oof"-worthy (Isaac and Rool as ATs? Temporary death sentence). On the other hand, acknowledging modern Kirby material would be good (although referencing Epic Yarn of all things?).

 

[Luminario]

Which is fine with me, personally I'm just puzzled as to what she would be able to do?

Does Happy Home Desinger lend itself to a moveset?

Kinda. HHD give her the ability to whack opponents over the head with a tambourine or maracas.
It also lets her show off her gorgeous voice.

 

[RandomAce]

To everyone, which character would you like to see being revealed next?

Personally I would like Simon Belmont to be unveiled next just to end the Vergeben leak speculation.

A lot actually.

Elma, because A) I’d main her and she’s one of my most wanted, B) so people can shut up about Rex and Pyra getting in over her, and C) to taste some delicious salt.

Lycanroc as well because A) Their my most wanted and I’d main them B) So we can shut up about Pokémon newcomers and confirm who’s playable already, and C) to taste some delicious salt after people are shocked for an inclusion they didn’t consider though.

Issac because I don’t want to wait for 5 months hoping Isaac is in only to have my dreams crushed (and for fellow Isaac supporters that have been waiting for him for over 10 years).

And King K. Rool so people can stop leaking and talking about him already.

 

[Enchess]

Some of these are "oof"-worthy (Isaac and Rool as ATs? Temporary death sentence). On the other hand, acknowledging modern Kirby material would be good (although referencing Epic Yarn of all things?).

I'll take it over any of the leaks where they aren't present at all.

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

So if the rumor of more people besides Chrom being added to Robin’s FS is true, who would you expect? Frederick? Lissa? Sumia? Lon’qu? Tharja?

That many models to pummel on one foe would be an overkill unless they make it a cutscene-powered FS.

Also I'd be correct with my prediction that Chrom's still not getting his chance in this game.

 

[Apollo500]

So if the rumor of more people besides Chrom being added to Robin’s FS is true, who would you expect? Frederick? Lissa? Sumia? Lon’qu? Tharja?

Lissa and/or Frederick seem like good bets. Maaaybe Sumia or Sully?

 

[Noipoi]

New August Direct Rumor on Gamefaqs.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/76855937

Spoiler

If you wanna believe me asap, Mr. Game and Watch's character trailer will be shown off on the blog tonight. Come back here after it happens.

- Nintendo Direct in August, illustrates new game mode to unlock characters, shows off the menu, shows off more final smashes and some other tweaks, reveals a few more returning stages and 1 new one plus New Donk City.

- I have no info on the new character revealed in August direct.

- Chrom isn't an echo fighter, he's still in Robin's final smash. It hasn't been shown off because they added other characters to it.

- New Donk City is a traveling stage. Not much else to say, imagine Delfino Plaza or Skyloft but New Donk City instead.

- R.O.B. and Peach both have completely new Final Smashes. Several other characters like Yoshi and Diddy Kong have the same Final Smash, except Diddy's is practically a clone of Snake's mechanically now and Yoshi's is just a cutscene Final Smash. Several other final smashes have some cosmetic tweaks.

- Brinstar, Corneria, Fountain of Dreams, Yoshi's Island (Brawl), Delfino Plaza, Hanenbow, Reset Bomb Forest, Gerudo Valley and Gamer are shown off as returning stages in the direct.

- Assist trophies are also shown off. Isaac, Magalor, Blue*, Celica, Chibi Robo, Lottie, DK Jr., The Helmasaur King, and King K Rool are all shown off in a compilation.
*Blue simply releases a bunch of Pokeballs at random.

- There are also a few new/returning items. Fan and DK Barrel are back. Ramblin' Mushroom, Toothbrush (Chibi Robo), and the speed shoes from Sonic are all new items shown off.

- The one new stage is Patched Plains from Kirby.

- Simon and Isabelle are also both legit things. Isabelle is not an echo of Villager but several of her moves seem to be borrowed. She's like Luigi is to Mario.

- I know of more info but I'll just leave it with the stuff revealed at the direct as later stuff is subject to change. Also I don't want to be the first to break news of newcomers.

Fortunately the deadline is tonight. So we'll know this rumor's fate in a few hours.

I love leaks that could be disproven in hours, saves me the trouble.
But if he's right i'm gonna freak for two minutes and then realize it's a coincidence.

 

[Rosalinatehplumber]

He was shown unfinished. And different programmers have different jobs; once a game gets to the polishing stage or goes gold, the guys who specialize in creating base animations or textures are either moved to another game, let go, or given DLC to work on. Even though the game hadn't gone gold yet, I don't think Mewtwo was considered for the final roster so much as considered early on for the first DLC.

Yes, he was shown unfinished. But Sakurai said that Mewtwo was impossible for the base game. Plus, 2013 he said that he "was thinking about it".
Sources: https://sourcegaming.info/2016/02/23/nintendo-dream-interview-with-sakurai-part-2/
http://www.gamnesia.com/news/mewtwo-may-return-in-next-smash-bros

 

[Zinith]

So if the rumor of more people besides Chrom being added to Robin’s FS is true, who would you expect? Frederick? Lissa? Sumia? Lon’qu? Tharja?

Lissa and Frederick are the first units you get besides Chrom and Robin. It'd be those two

 

[King Sonnn DeDeDoo]

Wasn't Dig Dug discussed earlier? Umm, yeah. What's his most distinct trait?

Inflation



Okay, even if it were reasonable to model inflation animations for each character, do y'all really want to see that? Do ya?

I suppose they could get around it by having Dig Dug pump attack cause the enemy to simply grow larger (like with the super mushroom) and have a lighter weight to simulate him “ballooning” the opponent. That way you can get rid of unneeded animations and the icky factor.

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

Wasn't Dig Dug discussed earlier? Umm, yeah. What's his most distinct trait?

Inflation



Okay, even if it were reasonable to model inflation animations for each character, do y'all really want to see that? Do ya?

Don't put that image into my mind ever again.

 

[blackghost]

In Mass Effect 3's multiplayer mode, I got kicked from the group after soloing our final wave because I took too long doing it.

Yeah, you all died, I had to fend for myself, and I got us all a huge payday for it. Sorry.

i know that feeling bro. i just wanted to play quarian engineer. people got mad because i took a long time. i mean not exactly a dps chaarcter....
great horde mode tho.

 

[KMDP]

Lissa and Frederick are the first units you get besides Chrom and Robin. It'd be those two

Not to mention that Chrom, Lissa and Frederick are the ones who appear in FE: Fates' "Before Awakening" DLC.

New August Direct Rumor on Gamefaqs.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/76855937

Spoiler

If you wanna believe me asap, Mr. Game and Watch's character trailer will be shown off on the blog tonight. Come back here after it happens.

- Nintendo Direct in August, illustrates new game mode to unlock characters, shows off the menu, shows off more final smashes and some other tweaks, reveals a few more returning stages and 1 new one plus New Donk City.

- I have no info on the new character revealed in August direct.

- Chrom isn't an echo fighter, he's still in Robin's final smash. It hasn't been shown off because they added other characters to it.

- New Donk City is a traveling stage. Not much else to say, imagine Delfino Plaza or Skyloft but New Donk City instead.

- R.O.B. and Peach both have completely new Final Smashes. Several other characters like Yoshi and Diddy Kong have the same Final Smash, except Diddy's is practically a clone of Snake's mechanically now and Yoshi's is just a cutscene Final Smash. Several other final smashes have some cosmetic tweaks.

- Brinstar, Corneria, Fountain of Dreams, Yoshi's Island (Brawl), Delfino Plaza, Hanenbow, Reset Bomb Forest, Gerudo Valley and Gamer are shown off as returning stages in the direct.

- Assist trophies are also shown off. Isaac, Magalor, Blue*, Celica, Chibi Robo, Lottie, DK Jr., The Helmasaur King, and King K Rool are all shown off in a compilation.
*Blue simply releases a bunch of Pokeballs at random.

- There are also a few new/returning items. Fan and DK Barrel are back. Ramblin' Mushroom, Toothbrush (Chibi Robo), and the speed shoes from Sonic are all new items shown off.

- The one new stage is Patched Plains from Kirby.

- Simon and Isabelle are also both legit things. Isabelle is not an echo of Villager but several of her moves seem to be borrowed. She's like Luigi is to Mario.

- I know of more info but I'll just leave it with the stuff revealed at the direct as later stuff is subject to change. Also I don't want to be the first to break news of newcomers.

Fortunately the deadline is tonight. So we'll know this rumor's fate in a few hours.

If it turns out that Mr. Game & Watch is the next character covered, I will go for the possibility that the leaker knew about it, and the direct, and is deliberately giving out misinformation to throw people off for lulz.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

Springman, a Champion, Dusk Lycanroc, or any other character who debuted after development began. I just wanna see Smash speculation blow up into flames because no one knows what to believe anymore.

Well, moreso than it does on a normal day anyway.

To be fair, since a Gen 7 Pokemon is Pretty Much Inevitable™, I'm not sure Dusk Lycanroc would really be that big of a stretch, especially since a Pokemon X and Y newcomer was reserved a slot in the last game (despite that game coming over a year later than when the roster was finalized). It would just be a repeat of something that happened with Pokemon already, and since Pokemon was already made an exception, that wouldn't be much of a game changer.

Spring Man and a Champion on the other hand would definitely catch people off-guard.

 

[domriver]

@tehponycorn got anything new today?

Also in one more day, a ton of leaks will die...hopefully August will have more news

Lets not beat around the bush. August will have MORE LEAKS.

 

[Enchess]

If it turns out that Mr. Game & Watch is the next character covered, I will go for the possibility that the leaker knew about it, and the direct, and is deliberately giving out misinformation to throw people off for lulz.

That's definitely something I would do haha

 

[Deleted member]

If it turns out that Mr. Game & Watch is the next character covered, I will go for the possibility that the leaker knew about it, and the direct, and is deliberately giving out misinformation to throw people off for lulz.

If it was deliberate misinformation, this guy would be my hero.

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

Wasn't Dig Dug discussed earlier? Umm, yeah. What's his most distinct trait?

Inflation



Okay, even if it were reasonable to model inflation animations for each character, do y'all really want to see that? Do ya?

One thing i don't get about it though? Is it Sexual? I just don't see it, I just see "Ew Gross"

 

[RandomAce]

- Assist trophies are also shown off. Isaac

Me:

 

[Zinith]

One thing i don't get about it though? Is it Sexual? I just don't see it, I just see "Ew Gross"

It's both. Kinda messed up regardless...

 

[Deleted member]

Me:
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At least he's in the game this time?

 

[Cutie Gwen]

So if the rumor of more people besides Chrom being added to Robin’s FS is true, who would you expect? Frederick? Lissa? Sumia? Lon’qu? Tharja?

Morgan twins? Y'know, Robin's kids?

 

[domriver]

Ooh, a little something to look forward to tonight. If it's wrong, eh. Those were cool ideas at least.

If Game and Watch's video is tonight though... I wonder what kind of reaction would be had.

Mines would be

because King K Rool is an AT.

 

[Mc.Rad]

It's kind of odd that this leak says that it knows both the website update and the Direct... Wouldn't that be managed by two different people???

 

[Deleted member]

Morgan twins? Y'know, Robin's kids?

If he summoned two Morgans, would that mean Robin is married to himself?

 

[Dragoncharystary]

New August Direct Rumor on Gamefaqs.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/76855937

Spoiler

If you wanna believe me asap, Mr. Game and Watch's character trailer will be shown off on the blog tonight. Come back here after it happens.

- Nintendo Direct in August, illustrates new game mode to unlock characters, shows off the menu, shows off more final smashes and some other tweaks, reveals a few more returning stages and 1 new one plus New Donk City.

- I have no info on the new character revealed in August direct.

- Chrom isn't an echo fighter, he's still in Robin's final smash. It hasn't been shown off because they added other characters to it.

- New Donk City is a traveling stage. Not much else to say, imagine Delfino Plaza or Skyloft but New Donk City instead.

- R.O.B. and Peach both have completely new Final Smashes. Several other characters like Yoshi and Diddy Kong have the same Final Smash, except Diddy's is practically a clone of Snake's mechanically now and Yoshi's is just a cutscene Final Smash. Several other final smashes have some cosmetic tweaks.

- Brinstar, Corneria, Fountain of Dreams, Yoshi's Island (Brawl), Delfino Plaza, Hanenbow, Reset Bomb Forest, Gerudo Valley and Gamer are shown off as returning stages in the direct.

- Assist trophies are also shown off. Isaac, Magalor, Blue*, Celica, Chibi Robo, Lottie, DK Jr., The Helmasaur King, and King K Rool are all shown off in a compilation.
*Blue simply releases a bunch of Pokeballs at random.

- There are also a few new/returning items. Fan and DK Barrel are back. Ramblin' Mushroom, Toothbrush (Chibi Robo), and the speed shoes from Sonic are all new items shown off.

- The one new stage is Patched Plains from Kirby.

- Simon and Isabelle are also both legit things. Isabelle is not an echo of Villager but several of her moves seem to be borrowed. She's like Luigi is to Mario.

- I know of more info but I'll just leave it with the stuff revealed at the direct as later stuff is subject to change. Also I don't want to be the first to break news of newcomers.

Fortunately the deadline is tonight. So we'll know this rumor's fate in a few hours.

We'll know of it's fate in about an hour and a half. Maybe less.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

If G&W DOES get shown on the next update, the reactions will be ****ing glorious I tell you

 

[Apollo500]

Morgan twins? Y'know, Robin's kids?

Wow. I knew I was forgetting someone important. I was forgetting their own bloody kid. I feel silly.

 

[SlickWylde]

Regarding the "deadline" of the leak. Remember that people get lucky with info sometimes. I don't know what the chances are of guessing which character will be shown next, but Mr Game and Watch's trailer being shown tonight does not mean that the leaker is right. He's probably just hoping.

 

[Deleted member]

Wow. I knew I was forgetting someone important. I was forgetting their own bloody kid. I feel silly.

It's okay, Morgan doesn't remember anything either

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

Regarding the "deadline" of the leak. Remember that people get lucky with info sometimes. I don't know what the chances are of guessing which character will be shown next, but Mr Game and Watch's trailer being shown tonight does not mean that the leaker is right. He's probably just hoping.

Yeah