Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Blargg888]

New Sonic and Bayonetta music and remixes are always welcomed.

I've said this before, but if we get a new Sonic remix, I'd hope for either something from Mania, or this:

 

[Icedragonadam]

You know if there's an unlock everything option in the game. I wonder if you would have to use the Konami Code for that. Since Konami is back on board for Smash and all, it would be fitting.

 

[Koopaul]

Thing is, this logic can't apply to at least one of the existing Echoes, that being Dark Pit. Dark Pit was made a clone because he can't use the TST, which means him being an Alt actually was considered to be "wrong".

But Alph can't use the S.S. Dolphin.

Seems like Sakurai is willing to make exceptions what a character can and can't do.

 

[osby]

I've said this before, but if we get a new Sonic remix, I'd hope for either something from Mania, or this:

That's cool.
I know I'm being greedy but personally, I want a remix of "Endless Possibilities" or even better, final boss version.

 

[Deleted member]

I just noticed a lot of people think we are getting 13+ newcomers.

I'm curious, what exactly makes you think that will happen, peeps?

 

[sdpdude9]

One thing I hope is fixed is the far too strict soft bans. Quit one game and banned for 10 minutes, can't even play against friends. That's a bit overkill if you are a rare quitter. I spilled water a few weeks ago and quit to clean it up and it banned me. This was the first quit I'd done in some time. It needs to be so many disconnects within so much time for bans, not this blanket policy.

 

[ColietheGoalie]

So anyway, what series would you guys like to hear music from next?

I'm personally hoping for a new Pokemon, Xenoblade, or Fire Emblem remix myself.

Xenoblade, Yoshi, & Star Fox

 

[Enchess]

I just noticed a lot of people think we are getting 13+ newcomers.

I'm curious, what exactly makes you think that will happen, peeps?

Optimism for some, poor understanding of game development for others

 

[ZephyrZ]

But Alph can't use the S.S. Dolphin.

Seems like Sakurai is willing to make exceptions what a character can and can't do.

And the Koopalings can't use Shadow Mario. Honestly, I think that the Sacred Treasures was only part of the reason for making DP and echo. The other is so that he could have unique taunts and victory animations to better convey his personality. Olimar's victory animations still work for Alph, but DP using some of Pit's would be a little silly.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

But Alph can't use the S.S. Dolphin.

Seems like Sakurai is willing to make exceptions what a character can and can't do.

tbf evidence suggests he was planned to use Rock Pikmin and be a separate character

 

[osby]

I just noticed a lot of people think we are getting 13+ newcomers.

I'm curious, what exactly makes you think that will happen, peeps?

The fact that every Smash game has more newcomers then the previous one, except 3DS and Wii U gives hope to some people.
Also, baseless assumptions about echoes and DLC content.

 

[Deleted member]

So anyway, what series would you guys like to hear music from next?

I'm personally hoping for a new Pokemon, Xenoblade, or Fire Emblem remix myself.

I won't shut my mouth about it until it gets added.

 

[Murlough]

I just noticed a lot of people think we are getting 13+ newcomers.

I'm curious, what exactly makes you think that will happen, peeps?

Because people like to ignore information they are given in favor of believing what makes them feel good.

I'd guess 7 more for base game max, then DLC later on.

 

[Imadethistoseealeak]

I just noticed a lot of people think we are getting 13+ newcomers.

I'm curious, what exactly makes you think that will happen, peeps?

If you're reffering to the poll at the top it's from pre E3. So yeah I also thought we would have 13+ originally but I've changed my vote. Everyday regulars here probably have changed theirs but I doubt everyone did, really needs a reset to be accurate.

 

[BeardyBennett]

So I decided to actually give a try in SM4SH and love him. Definitely adding him onto my list of SM4SH mains and hopeful Ultimate mains.

SM4SH mains:
Hopeful Ultimate mains:

 

[aarchak]

So anyway, what series would you guys like to hear music from next?

I'm personally hoping for a new Pokemon, Xenoblade, or Fire Emblem remix myself.

I actually want some Octopath Traveler music. Been playing that game recently and it has godlike music.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

New Sonic and Bayonetta music and remixes are always welcomed.

Sega must let us have multiple remixes this time

 

[Icedragonadam]

Oh man those Wario Sketches in Warioware Gold is so priceless. I just had to make one of them my avatar. XD

Last Game there were about 15 non-echo newcomers(13 if you count the miis as 1) in the base game. So with Sakurai's words that could mean from 2 to 14 newcomers in base.

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

Oh man those Wario Sketches in Warioware Gold is so priceless. I just had to make one of them my avatar. XD

Last Game there were about 15 newcomers(13 if you count the miis as 1) in the base game. So with Sakurai's words that could mean from 2 to 14 newcomers.

Good taste my man

 

[Guybrush20X6]

You tried to push the payload on Hightower didn’t you?


Speaking of unconventional game modes, how about some new modes for smash? Maybe a king of the hill mode, where you get points by staying in the desired locations the longest. Or perhaps a capture the flag mode where the winner is determined by who held a certain item the longest. What game mode ideas would y’all want for smash?

Tried to grab intel on 2 Fort.

Similar but without the excuse of "We're Market Gardening here"

 

[Rie Sonomura]

So anyway, what series would you guys like to hear music from next?

I'm personally hoping for a new Pokemon, Xenoblade, or Fire Emblem remix myself.

Xenoblade. Particularly a song composed by Hiroyuki Sawano

Cause uhhh...reasons

 

[BeardyBennett]

If you're reffering to the poll at the top it's from pre E3. So yeah I also thought we would have 13+ originally but I've changed my vote. Everyday regulars here probably have changed theirs but I doubt everyone did, really needs a reset to be accurate.

Yeah at this point I'll say 5 more for 8 total. Two more echoes, three more true newcomers. Official guess is:
Simon
King K Rool
Pokemon- I'll say Decidueye. Sigh...
Isabelle (echo)
Dark Samus (echo)

 

[Metal Shop X]

After all this time, I finally rewatched the Wii U 50-Fact Extravaganza.

Man, Xander Mobius is such a joy to listen. You can tell he had alot of fun doing this. He make some of the more boring part still fun to listen to.

Really, if Nintendo want to make me more excited for Ultimate, A Switch XX-Fact Extravaganza would be just perfect.

Like, the man can make a microphone of all thing sound exciting, A FREAKIN' MICROPHONE!

 

[Levy22]

Smash Ultimate exhibition at EVO on Friday confirmed to be streamed by EVO (not Nintendo):

It will be a fun weekend!

 

[MBRedboy31]

But Alph can't use the S.S. Dolphin.

Except he can, he didn't in Pikmin 3, but, he'd surely be able to pilot it if Hococate Freight were to rent it out to him.

And the Koopalings can't use Shadow Mario.

Isn't Shadow Mario activated by use of a special mask with Mario's nose and mustache drawn on it, rather than being an ability inherent to Bowser Jr.? Bowser Jr. might let them borrow the mask and paintbrush if they had a good reason for them.

Now, though, I do have to wonder if, canonically, Dark Pit actually would be able to handle the Three Sacred Treasures? I mean, even if the Treasures were designed such that only Pit could use them, he should be able to use them anyway, as a clone of Pit, unless they have some kind of built in test of one's intentions or something that he would fail.

But... the Three Sacred Treasures shouldn't exist in Smash 4 anyway since they were destroyed in Uprising and Smash 4 canonically(?) takes place after Uprising, so... it is really inconsistent, then.

 

[Blargg888]

I just noticed a lot of people think we are getting 13+ newcomers.

I'm curious, what exactly makes you think that will happen, peeps?

What makes me curious is why there are still 46 people under the 1-2 sections, despite the fact that anybody who voted that way already knows that they're wrong.

So I decided to actually give a try in SM4SH and love him. Definitely adding him onto my list of SM4SH mains and hopeful Ultimate mains.

SM4SH mains:
Hopeful Ultimate mains:

Ah, yes. Another one has decided to join the Doc Side.

 

[Icedragonadam]

Smash Ultimate exhibition at EVO on Friday confirmed to be streamed by EVO (not Nintendo):

It will be a fun weekend!

But surely Sakurai will make an unexpected visit during the very last minute and reveal Heihachi, Spring Man, and Goku as a tag team fighter!? A leaker on 4chan said so!

 

[MasterOfKnees]

I just noticed a lot of people think we are getting 13+ newcomers.

I'm curious, what exactly makes you think that will happen, peeps?

If you're talking about the poll then it was done long before we knew that every veteran would return. Even with that in mind I voted 9-10, but I can see why others were optimistic beforehand.

 

[Deleted member]

Xenoblade. Particularly a song composed by Hiroyuki Sawano

Cause uhhh...reasons

Spoiler

NOT EVEN A DISTANT LAND
WE'RE STUCK ON A WHOLE DIFFERENT PLANET
NO PEACE LOOKIN' AT THE SKY

TROUBLE'S ALWAYS ALL AROUND SO WE STAY QUICK WITH
THE GUNS AND CANNONS
STANDING AS LONG AS WE CAN UNTIL WE GET ALL DOLLS UP

THEN CALL ALL BETS OFF
WE'LL BLOW THROUGH YOUR TAR
DEALING WITH LIVES MESSED UP

ON A SEA OF DARK MATTER
EVERY MINUTE MATTERS
LIVING WHILE OTHER LIVES SHATTER

SEEING GHOSTS SCATTER
AS THEY POUR OUT
WE CAN HANDLE THEM

IT'S THE TAR TAKING OVER THAT CAME UNEXPECTED
HARD TO ACCEPT IT
GETTING MARKED FOR DEATH

SEEING FRIENDS SNATCHED AND DARKLY POSSESSED

THE TAR INSIDE STEALING THE BODY AND BREATH
TILL ONLY A SHELL IS LEFT
WITNESS TO HELL IN THE FLESH
A FIGHT TO THE DEATH
SCREAMING WHERE'S THE RELIEF?
MAYBE NO MORE SLEEP

ALL SWALLOWED IN GRIEF
IMAGES START TO STALK LIKE A BEAST
I HEAR VOICES BUT NO ONE TALKING TO ME...

Please...

 

[Just a random scrub]

You tried to push the payload on Hightower didn’t you?


Speaking of unconventional game modes, how about some new modes for smash? Maybe a king of the hill mode, where you get points by staying in the desired locations the longest. Or perhaps a capture the flag mode where the winner is determined by who held a certain item the longest. What game mode ideas would y’all want for smash?

Ideas I had

• Capture the Flag: A pretty self-explanatory mode. In a large, wide open space, up to 8 players compete in teams in a humongous, expansive area to play a Smash Bros styled game of Capture the Flag. There's plenty of neat **** hidden around to make this as explosive and epic as it can be.
• Battle Royale: Same as Capture the Flag, except there's no teams, and no flag capturing. Players descend on the battlefield, and are tasked immediately with the simple goal of being the last man standing, in the style of the battle royale genre.

 

[Dragoncharystary]

So, leakypandy has said that there will be a Nintendo Direct in mid August and a Nindies Showcase very early on in August. I know that he has gotten a lot of things wrong in the past, but this does line up with loz18 saying there will be a Nintendo Direct that will feature Smash sometime in August. Either way, I think it's definitely something to keep an eye out for.

 

[SquashiniKun]

Smash Ultimate exhibition at EVO on Friday confirmed to be streamed by EVO (not Nintendo):

It will be a fun weekend!

I hope they reveal something at EVO, cuz i'm tired of seeing stuff from the E3 build constantly.

 

[domriver]

If Mio and Mayu get in, I might need to buy an extra copy of the game to keep sealed and two of their amiibo. I actually think they have a real shot too. They got trophies in Smash 4, Nintendo co-owns the IP, and there have been rumors Fatal Frame 6 for Switch is in the works. They also represent on of the genre blindspots in the roster, would provide a unique moveset, and have that sorta niche cult-classic appeal that arguably got Shulk in (since the series hadn't really entered mainstream yet).

I'm willing to bet that Fatal Frame is at least back in the form of a trophy, if not a stage or assist trophy. A playable character seems unlikely, but I don't think it's much more unlikely than ROB was for Brawl or Duck Hunt was for Sm4sh.

I know I don't speak for everyone but Mayu and Mio or someone from the Fatal Frame series would certainly be a "ZMOGWTF" character that Sakurai can do. I never expected R.O.B or Duck Hunt in smash, let alone know about them. At least maybe consider them for the new entry of Smash even though its years from now. =) There is somewhere in these threads a moveset for a fatal frame character using the Camera Obscura and Ghosts as apart the moveset. Very well done i might add. Very unique than your typical fighter.

 

[Luminario]

So anyway, what series would you guys like to hear music from next?

I'm personally hoping for a new Pokemon, Xenoblade, or Fire Emblem remix myself.

I'd love to hear more Animal Crossing remixes. Things like the GC 2am theme or a medley of the different hourly music in New Leaf.
There's also tons of good KK songs to remix or medley. Lucky KK, D&B+Technopop+DJ KK mashup, KK Country, KK Parade, KK Jongara, there's so many. There's even the Club LOL's medleys to rip right from the game.

 

[Deleted member]

Smash Ultimate exhibition at EVO on Friday confirmed to be streamed by EVO (not Nintendo):

It will be a fun weekend!

Switch GGXrd with Melee and then Sunday's schedule is perfect.

 

[Mutsukki]

And the Koopalings can't use Shadow Mario. Honestly, I think that the Sacred Treasures was only part of the reason for making DP and echo. The other is so that he could have unique taunts and victory animations to better convey his personality. Olimar's victory animations still work for Alph, but DP using some of Pit's would be a little silly.

Sometimes I wish Olimar's victory animation actually worked for him himself...

 

[Mega Bidoof]

So anyway, what series would you guys like to hear music from next?

I'm personally hoping for a new Pokemon, Xenoblade, or Fire Emblem remix myself.

Fly Octo Fly.

That’s honestly all I need. Give me that and I’ll be happy.

It probably won’t happen due to Octo Expansion coming out less than six months before Smash Ultimate, but I’m sure Sakurai could toss it in quickly if he wanted too. I don’t even need a remix.

 

[BluePikmin11]

I just noticed a lot of people think we are getting 13+ newcomers.

I'm curious, what exactly makes you think that will happen, peeps?

I see more newcomers than people here generally expect. I do not take Sakurai’s statement in the E3 direct at pure face value.

I believe the game taking some assets from Smash 4 (as stated to be the case in the Famitsu Ultimate column), Ultimate being a single version of Smash, and Sakurai current skills as a developer will allow room for him to develop a ton of newcomers, even if such a task will make balancing a nightmare. Though i am confident with Bandai Namco’s experience of balancing Smash with Wii U/3DS, this will not be much of a strain. There is probably a large balancing team helping with the project, as much of a big scale as the staff of BOTW. I see Sakurai becoming ambitious in newcomer number each Smash game, developing at most 15 unique newcomers with some echos as bonuses.

 

[SonicMario]

I just noticed a lot of people think we are getting 13+ newcomers.

I'm curious, what exactly makes you think that will happen, peeps?

If you're referring to the poll at the top of this thread. That poll I believe was there since the beginning of this thread. Which is quite a long time ago. Before we even knew a Smash for Switch was coming. And certainly before we all knew that every single veteran was coming back. All that happened is the poll didn't age well regardless of the spectrum on what people expected way back when. People who thought it'd be a port with only a few new characters lowballed. And people expecting or at least wanting a full new game with a big amount of cuts picking the other end of the spectrum.

The people who picked a more moderate apprach on the poll will probably be closer but there's no way they could of known for sure back then.

 

[Mega Bidoof]

If you're referring to the poll at the top of this thread. That poll I believe was there since the beginning of this thread. Which is quite a long time ago. Before we even knew a Smash for Switch was coming. And certainly before we all knew that every single veteran was coming back. All that happened is the poll didn't age well regardless of the spectrum on what people expected way back when. People who thought it'd be a port with only a few new characters lowballed. And people expecting or at least wanting a full new game with a big amount of cuts picking the other end of the spectrum.

The people who picked a more moderate apprach on the poll will probably be closer but there's no way they could of known for sure back then.

There’s also been a notable shift towards the middle range of that poll. Before E3 it was just the larger numbers having more votes, but some people (myself included) went backed and changed their votes after Sakurai’s comment about less newcomers. It’s just that a good amount of people who voted haven’t bothered.