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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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Because of his personality, lack of fighting moves, his series being non-violent by nature? There was more than one way to take it. So no, calling that clear is silly. Anybody can "not be suited for battle", but that's a vague as hell statement that doesn't explain anything. What's really important is why they aren't and how to look into the character and make them potentially work.
"Anybody can "not be suited for battle", but that's a vague as hell statement that doesn't explain anything."

Observing all your posts throughout this, you really seem to be stretching/twisting things and trying really hard to justify some madeup rules of yours against Isabelle rather than admit fault, while repeatedly dismissing anything that goes against the "Sakurai adheres to established personalities 100% and won't ever contradict anything in any way, even at the expense of excluding a popular/iconic character altogether" narrative you concocted. I don't think Isabelle is a shoo-in and her inclusion can go either way, but I think it's pretty clear the main issue to her inclusion is the lack of obvious moveset potential, not "oh Isabelle is just too peaceful to ever lift a finger in a cartoony fighting party game and she's just so fitting as an assist trophy". All this "Isabelle is too peaceful!" and "Isabelle fits best as an AT" looks like another "Ridley is too big!" and "Ridley fits best as a boss!" argument.
 

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Ok so i'm trying to get the Loz18 leak straight.
Looking for a source for these claims:

1. echos having a symbol near their name being "leaked" before E3.
2. he said to keep following vergeben.

EDIT: I found his posts about some of the info i originally couldn't find, still looking for sources on these two claims though.

i've seen his other stuff, and supposedly the "daisy" part of his leak was deleted, but its hard to search gamefaqs...
Source Gaming just released a video on him today. I haven't watched the full thing through but they might talk about those two things here:


Also read this thread all the way through. Lots of predictions that came true from him such as Moray Towers.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/76696004?page=14
 

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I mean why not, he's already officially fought Power Rangers characters at this point so why not Goku
Goku and Ryu both seek challenging fights.

Though if we were going strictly by canon then Ryu would be less than a flea to Goku, but I digress...
Although he does moreso resemble a Spider Monkey, Diddy is referred to as a Chimpanzee in DK64, having the nickname of Champion of Chimpanzees in the manual.


The comics were great fun overall, especially when Ian Flynn took over replacing Ken Penders as the main writer. If you never read the comics before and you're interested, there's 3 jumping on points:

1. Start at the very beginning; 2. (NOT REALLY RECOMMENDED) Start at Issue 160 at the beginning of Ian Flynn's run; 3. Start at Issue 252, which starts off with a literal soft reboot of the comics universe after the events of the first crossover with Mega Man.

Either way, for your convenience, here's a reading order guide:
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The IDW comics are being written by Flynn, and from what I've seen and heard so far, it's good stuff.
For people who want more Sonic comic goodness they should read the Sonic the Comic stories. Though where you'd find said comics I don't know. :laugh:

Just like Archie Sonic it takes extreme liberties with the Sonic canon (which at the time was vague anyway). While I haven't read the comics myself since they originally came out, it still has a dedicated fanbase (despite being cancelled around the time Sonic Adventure came out), and I remember good things about it.

Apparently it only takes until about Issue 8 to get good.

Now, as for reading guides... well, I have no idea. *shrug*
 

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Source Gaming just released a video on him today. I haven't watched the full thing through but they might talk about those two things here:


Also read this thread all the way through. Lots of predictions that came true from him such as Moray Towers.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/76696004?page=14
I watched the video and read all the posts from him i could find on gamefaqs

just cant find if he mentioned echos having a symbol (though thats kind of unnecessary as clearly he had access to either the demo or e3 reveal trailer early, that much is obvious from everything else he said).

just curious if he actually specifically said to keep following vergeben, as he seems to think the higher ups had access to more unrevealed characters and thought one would be revealed at the invitational, though i will say after reading his posts he seems to have assumed some stuff... he sounds like a big smash fan himself, so maybe he was just saying that vergeben seems likely from what hes heard which might not be any different than the rumors we all have heard.
 
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About the Isabelle Vergeben thread, it's gone.

I find that weird. The Ridley, Ice Climber, and Simon Belmont leak threads remained up even after it was clear he was right about Ridley. Now we see him leak Isabelle and not even a day later, the thread went poof.
 

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Where did loz18 say to follow Vergeben?

The last thing I want is a Verge spoiler.

About the Isabelle Vergeben thread, it's gone.

I find that weird. The Ridley, Ice Climber, and Simon Belmont leak threads remained up even after it was clear he was right about Ridley. Now we see him leak Isabelle and not even a day later, the thread went poof.
Suspicious.

Could he have been caught or was he wrong?
 

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Goku and Ryu both seek challenging fights.

Though if we were going strictly by canon then Ryu would be less than a flea to Goku, but I digress...
We haven't seen Super Ultra Instinct 2 Director's Cut Ryu yet, so we don't know that
 

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Alright, here's every supposed leak that I have documented containing both Simon and Isabelle. There's a total of 18 that I'm splitting between two sessions, one for "leaks" that will live past July, and one for "leaks" that don't.
My source worked at Bandai Namco and was on the former balancing team for patches 1.0.6 to 1.1.7 which is now a core part of Sakurai's main team. The old team reverted many of their past changes and are adding new changes in their place, but it's not bad, expect characters like Sheik and Diddy to feel stronger in some ways and weaker in others. Sakurai is taking a bigger personal role in balancing the game instead of just overseeing everything, much more like he did in Brawl and Melee, he is very interested in learning about the competitive scene recently. Bayonetta is indeed getting additional nerfs, mostly adding more lag to her specials if she misses (Witch Time, Witch Twist), and reducing kill power of Up air. Most characters are getting buffed or nerfed as you'd expect, although strangely, Yoshi is getting nerfed overall, Sakurai felt he was too strong on For Glory. Diddy Kong is getting buffed, my source and friends tried stopping it but Sakurai doesn't get why Diddy is good as is and thinks he needs more power.
Post questions about characters and I'll try to answer them individually.

Also, here are your Newcomers:
>Simon
>Steve
>Tails (Sonic Echo)
>Geno
>Isabelle (Villager Echo)
>King K. Rool

And yes, Sakurai has heard about Waluigi but he will not be in the base game, DLC is still up in the air.
Newcomer Hints: Whip, Pic Related, Witch, Sliced Apple, Anime, Archer, House, Science, Cards.

Echo Hints: Prime, Edgy, Dog, Asthma, Blue Hair.

Assist Hints: Lego, Merchant Egg, Octopus, Divine, Dad, Pig.

Bayonetta Hint: Something was on purpose and rigged for victory. The ballot, the viability, one of those is correct, one of those is false.

Source: Someone you're all well aware of.

This is the leak that got the "Ballot was rigged" claim correct before the news broke.
*waves*

It's me, Peach! Today I have some exquisite information for all of you regarding the new Smash Bros. game on Nintendo Switch.

There's just six more full fighters.

Personally, I am most excited that my personal assistant Toad will be joining the battle as Captain Toad. I've already made a cake for the occasion! In Smash Ultimate, Captain Toad cannot jump, but has several moves that work as strong recovery options, notably his minecart and the propeller box from 3D World.

The second is Ashley from Diamond City. I don't know a lot about her but supposedly she is one of Wario's friends. Her demon Red supports her, turning into various objects for many of her attacks.

Thirdly, we have King K. Rool. I've heard he's about the same weight as Bowser, which is quite scary! Like Ashley for Japan, he was chosen to appeal to the western audiences.

I can also confirm we have a newcomer from our friends over at the Konami Kingdom, Simon Belmont.

Also joining the battle is Bandanna Waddle Dee! He's such a cutey, isn't he? He fights with his spear similarly to his recent appearances in Star Allies and Return to Dreamland.

The final new roster addition is... an odd man. He's a very blocky fellow who calls himself Steve. I'm quite surprised at his physique, but supposedly he is a master of adapting to different situations, able to quickly create items during the battle.

Each fighter comes with their own stage, too!

Captain Toad - Battle Tower Blitz
Ashley - Diamond City
King K. Rool - Gangplank Galleon
Simon Belmont - Dracula's Castle
Bandanna Waddle Dee - Dream Palace
Steve - New World (works sort of like the Mario Maker stage!)

Teehee! I wouldn't just leave you all with only this, so here's some of those Echo fighters! Eeeee! I'm so excited my pal Daisy is my Echo fighter!

4e - Dark Samus
18e - Dr. Luigi (this one has me quite surprised!)
32e - Chrom
45e - Isabelle

Also, Robin's new final smash turns them into a possessed version of themself! Spooky D:
>Lycanroc Dusk is the pokemon newcomer, its final smash has it use it's z move with the other two. Mimikyu and Decidueye are not playable, there is no other pokemon newcomer
>Banjo Kazooie is a newcomer, they shoot eggs, have a wonder wing move, and their final smash is jjinjonator, Minecraft gets a stage
>Ashley is a newcomer, spell moveset, final smash is a big spell.
>K Rool is a newcomer, uses gadgets and tricks, final smash is the blast o matic
>9 Unique newcomers, 5 echos
>Dixie Kong Isabelle and Shadow are echos
>Bandana Dee is not playable
>Shovel Knight is not playable
>Shantae is not playable
>Chrom is still Robin's final smash
>Captain Toad is not playable
>There is no fire emblem newcomer
>Dephino, Jungle Hijinx, Yoshi's Island Melee, Rainbow Road, Paper Mario, Dream Land 3ds, Pirate Ship, Peach's 64, Kongo 64, Pictochat, Mute City 3ds, and Orbital Gate return
>Miiverse, Sector Z, Planet Zebes, Poke Floats, Pictochat 2, and Golden Plains do not return
>SR388, Fortuna, Neo Los Angeles, and Frosty Fruits are new stages
>Qbby from Boxboy is an assist trophy
>Chibi Robo is an assist trophy
>Ravio is an assist trophy
>Chun Li is an assist trophy
>Sephiroth is an assist trophy
>Salazzle is a new pokeball
>Alolan Exeggutor is a new pokeball
>Popplio is a new pokeball pokemon
I have some Information regarding the upcoming super smash bros ultimate for Nintendo switch.

The remaining newcomers are-
King k rool
Geno
Simon belmont
Tails (Similar to sonic, not quite an echo though)
Isabelle (Similar situation to tails)

Springman and rex/pyra are in the planning stages and will be DLC, a few others are being considered. A 7th gen pokemon is almost definitely going to happen, but which one hasn't been decided yet.

Might be dead for claiming DLC is being planned, but I'll let it live as DLC isn't being developed, but just planned.
Hey guys I just go off work from Nintendo and thought I would like to talk about something I found out when walking by on the development of the new Super Smash Bros. game.

Based on what I saw when the roster was loaded, the following newcomers seem to be added to the game:
- Dixie Kong
- Heihachi
- Elma
- Simon
- Steve
- Karate Joe
- Arle
- Issac
- Tiki

With these guys as Echo Fighters:
- Ken
- Shadow
- Isabelle
- Dr. Luigi
- Chrom
- Richter

These characters however are becoming Assist Trophies:
- K. Rool
- Geno
- Banjo-Kazooie
- Creeper
- Susie
- Draco
- Anna
- Alucard
- President Lincoln (from Codename S.T.E.A.M.)
- Zero
- Nightmare
- Klonoa

These stages I found are returning from the previous entries:
- Fountain of Dreams
- Meta Crystal
- Hanenbow
- Poké Floats
- Mario Bros.
- Pac-Maze
- Mushroom Kingdom (64)
- Mute City (3DS)
- Planet Zebes

These stages will be added as brand new stages:
- Dracula's Castle
- Minecraft
- Spring Stadium
- A stage based on Tekken
- Alola Region
- Primp Town
- Forest Maze
- Magikarp Festival
- Sky Skipper
- Sonic Mania
- Park Avenue
- Planet Robobot

I didn't have time to dive deep into what all of these do and how you unlock them, but I hope this gets you excited for the game!
So yesterday, me and two other raters at the ESRB were given access to a video "presentation" of Smash Ultimate. Unfortunately for job security I was unable to get any photo or video evidence of what I saw, but you can choose to listen to me or not.
First off, I was told that development is mostly finished now, with the exception of bug testing and tweaking. The ESRB takes leaks very seriously (especially after the last game), so I will be brief.
There were 6 new characters I saw.
Banjo Kazooie was in one of the battles. It was like some sort of adventure mode but it was multiplayer competitive. Banjo had an attack involving Kazooie pooping out eggs. (We have to mark off things like that).
I also saw Simon Belmont, who was fighting against Bowser, Snake, and Louie. Simon used his whip in a lot of his attacks, as well as Castlevania weapons like the Cross throw and Potion.
There was another character who I missed the name of who had purple hair. She was only shown off during a montage of gameplay modes.
I saw Isabelle from Animal Crossing show up, but she used all the same moves as Villager, just "dantier" I guess.
They had someone named Masked Man (not sure what game he's from, maybe Earthbound). He had a sword and used lightning attacks.
Finally I saw Paper Mario in a mode where you work with Master Hand for prizes. He uses his partners from the N64 game and throws Stickers.
I'll answer any questions you guys have but namely I was not shown a picture of the full roster. I saw a select screen that was incomplete and only had a few characters.
ACTUAL Smash Leaks

Don't get your hopes up too high, guys. I have no idea about DLC but this is just for launch.

Simon is getting in. My guess is that they're announcing it when they announce the rumored (but obviously real) Castlevaina compilation. My guess is it will be around the launch of season 2 on Netflix. This is all just a guess, though.

And that is the only new character. There are others but they're just echo fighters. Thankfully none of them are Fire Emblem.

Classic Sonic is an echo fighter of Sonic. I have no idea how he plays. I'm just reading these off a list. My guess is maybe he has tighter controls if they want to really represent Classic Sonic. He's referred to as 'Classic Sonic' in documentation so I assume that's how he's referred to in-game, as well. I'm actually a little excited for this one.

Isabella is an echo fighter for villager. Don't even have a guess what the differences could be.

Ms. Pac-Man is another echo fighter. Same with Isabella. No idea how she'll be different.

The most disappointing echo fighter on the list is Dixie. She deserves her own moveset. ****ing sucks.

And finally, Octoling. Not a surprise.

That's all I know. No idea about ATs or anything else or even when they'll announce these guys (besides Simon but that's just a guess). You guys can ask me stuff but I probably won't know. But I might remember something I've forgotten if something is worded right? I dunno. He's hoping we get Rex as DLC.
>Mimikkyu
>Elma
>Shizue (Dash fighter)
>Chrom (Dash fighter)
>K Rool
>Belmondo
>Geno
>Ninten (Dash Fighter)
>Dark Samus (Dash Fighter)
>Shadow (Dash Fighter)
>Tapper
>Reimu
Nintendo Direct August 3rd
Super Smash Bros. reveal trailer
A shadowy figure flies above as a hero steps out of the darkness.
"Belmont has his stake in this!"
He follows the figure as it flies to a lofty bell tower. He climbs a spiral staircase and defeats skeletons and bats before arriving at the top. The bell sounds as he looks around. Sensing his foe: "Die monster. You don't belong in this world!" An evil laugh echoes out and the demon attacks. "Overconfidence will destroy you" Sephiroth joins the fray!

Belmont is a new design drawing inspiration from Simon, Trevor, Richtor, Juste and huh? Alucard? and has costumes to represent each of them. Sephiroth's design is based on his "One-Winged Angel" classic design but has costumes for his Advent Children and Kingdom Hearts designs.

A third character is teased. A telescope has been watching the battle unfold in the bell tower. A female giggle is heard and the telescope is flung skyward, disappearing in a STAR graphic effect.

MAY/MAY NOT BE OP

Inkling, Daisy, Ridley, Belmont, Sephiroth, Lip, Dark Samus, Isabelle, Dixie Kong, Chrom, Hades
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I work in the graphics team at Bandai Namco, and am working on smash ultimate. i wont say much about where i work, as i was make to sign an agreement not to divulge any information about the new game. however, like you, I would want to know whos gonna be in the game, and who isn't. This formats probably gonna suck because I'm not used to 4chan, and I'm also not gonna explain too much about the characters, in order to try and not make my identity too prominent.
In total, there will be 8 newcomers, including Ridley and Inkling, and 6 more echoes. This may seem contradictory, but apparently Sakurai is trying to do this so that he can leave the fanbase happy while he attempts to make as many DLC characters as Nintendo allows him to. Remember, budgets are a thing.

The 6 newcomers yet to be revealed are:
King K Rool
Geno
Simon Belmont
Okami
Ashley
Heihachi

Many people I work with believe that Dixie is going to be the first DLC character, as she can take much influence from diddy and she is wanted much like mewtwo was in the development of SSB4.

Anyways, the 6 echoes are:
Chrom
Shadow
Isabelle
Hilda
Dry Bowser
Dark Samus

I cannot confirm that there will be a subspace emissary, but what i can confirm is that all the characters will be able to be unlocked in a type of classic mode, where the final boss on each run will be a new fighter that has yet to be unlocked. From what I've seen, these characters will also be able to be unlocked in other ways, such as playing multiple amounts of matches.
In terms of when these will be revealed, I don't know, but i overheard people saying that some echoes wont get trailers, rather, a couple may be revealed in a smash focused direct, and
>K. Rool is in
>Ashley is in
>Simon Belmont is in
>Decidueye is not in, the pokemon rep is Lycanroc
>Rex and Pyra are in
>Shadow is in, echo of Sonic obviously
>Isabelle is in, villager echo
>Fountain of Dreams, Yoshi's Island, and Brinstar Depths come back from Melee
>Hanenbow, Delphino, and Pirate Ship come back from Brawl
>Dream Land, Mute City, and Rainbow Road return from 3ds
>Gamer, Jungle Hijinxs, and Orbital Gate Assault are back from Wii U
>Pikmin is not getting a new stage
>F Zero is not getting a new stage either.
>Classic Mode is different from Wii U version, more similar to 3DS and Brawl/Melee
>All Star is now based on when the fighter entered smash
>Event Mode is back


>Expect a newcomer revealed in July

This is just some stuff I found interesting, I will be on here for likely a little white, might post more.
Smash Bros Ultimate
The next super smash bros game will have 10 more newcomers. Each Month 2 new fighters will be annoced each month. It seems to look like each month one fighter would be a new fighter, while the other is an echo fighter. In july we will see Excite Biker, and Chrom from Fire Embelm. August will have King Krool, and Shadow the Hedehog. Semtemper will have Crash Bandicoot and Doomguy. Doomguy or crash may be an echo fighter because each month has on echo and one new fighter. October has Isabell from animal crossing as an echo for villager, and Steve from Mincraft. November has Funky kong, most likely an echo, and Lycanroc. December had Simon Belmont and Spike from the Mario games. Release Date December 7th
A friend of mine that works for Ninthendo of American has some inside information about the charters for Super Smash Bros. Ultimate.

Decidueye will be revealed during a July Nintendo Direct Mini.

Heihachi will be revealed at EVO 2018.

Steve will be revealed at MineCon Earth 2018.

Siomon will be revealed on Halloween.

King K. Roll will be revealed During a November Nintendo Direct.

Karate Joe will be revealed on a Smash Bros direct just days before the game releases.

In the Direct, we will be told Banjo-Kazooie is in development as a DLC charter, and DLC for the game will release through out the switches life time.

Chartes not revealed before lunch are Geno, Dixie Kong, Dark Samus, Chrom, Isabel, Tails, and Shadow.
Hello. I am here from previous about my Smash codename leaks. I want to give out the full leaks, since I am frustrated of people getting them wrong.

July - King K. Rool and Dixie Kong
August - Heihachi Mishima
September - Decidueye
October - Simon Belmont and Isabelle
November - Dark Samus
December - Chorus Kids, Kat and Ana, Geno, and Ninten.

Here are also some leaks for the stages: Peach's Castle, Delfino Plaza, Brinstar Depths, and Poke Floats are going to return. G Corp Helipad, Gangplank Galleon, Dracula's Castle, Assembly Dojo, and Rhythm Heaven are going to be the new stages.
>List of new characters for Super Smash Bros Ultimate in the dataminer.

>King- Unlike many insiders say, this character is not King. K Roll. This character would be no one else but none other than Prince Noctis of Final Fantasy XV
>Ponytail - It would be Dixie Kong, an Echo Fighter by Diddy Kong
>Old Man- He would be the Heihachi character of the Tekken series
>Archer- The Archer is the Deciduey of Pokémon Sun and Moon, as many people had predicted
>Warrior - It would be the Simon Belmont of the Castlevania series (No news)
>Secretary- Is Isabell from Animal Crossing the same, as everyone had said
>Mech- It would be the Rex of Xenoblade Chronicles 2
>Rhythm- Rhythm is nothing more and nothing less than Marshall, character of the series Rythm Heaven.
>Folklore- Musashi, protagonist of Sushi Strike: The Way of Sushido is Folklore.
>Doll- It would be the Geno from Super Mario RPG: The Legend of Seven Stars
>Prime Ribs- This character is Ninten from the Mother series, he will be an Echo Fighter from Nes.
>Rainbow - He is Captain Rainbow, who will be an Echo Fighter from Captain Falcon.

>Surprise character - Toadette, she is not a playable character, however, she appears in a random action and will present herself as a file already unlocked or not in a random attempt in her fight. It will appear more in online games, however it can appear even in other modes how All-Stars Mode for example.
Hello everyone. I work as one of many translators for Super Smash Bros. Ultimate for the U.S. I don’t know everything about the game, but my fellow co-workers shared me some information regarding the upcoming game.
*66 K. K. Rool and 67 Dixie Kong are in the game. Both will be revealed in July this month in an upcoming direct. Dixie is a semi-clone with her hairspin techs, gum ball popgun, guitar, etc.
*68 Heihachi will be revealed at EVO and will be playable at the EVO build of the game.
{There will be an exhibition match with Heihachi and Ryu.}
*69 Geno From Super MARIO RPG
{There is a 3D model of Mallow (Final smash? Assist?}
*70 Amaterasu from Okami
{Uses black paint smash attacks}
*71 Ninten from Earthbound Beginnings
{PK fire variant that meteor smash opponents in air. PK beam standard B}
*72 Bandana Waddle Dee from Kirby
{Uses spear attacks and a parisol similar to Peach and DAISY}
*73 Ashley from WarioWare
{No info N/A}
*74 Decidueye from Pokémon
{Moveset inspired by Pokken Tournament and uses sinister arrow raid as Final Smash. Long Range attacker}
*16’ Impa
{No info N/A}
*45’ Isabelle
{Isabelle’s tree always spawns fruits. Different Color butterfly net, Lloid rocket stays horizontal, Faster than Villager}
*New stages I know so far:
^New Donk City
^The Oddysey {Stage that travels around ^different SMO Worlds}
^Gangplank Galleon
^R.O.B Famicon
^Ashley’s Mansion
^Dragon’s Nest {Tekken 7}
^Melemele Island (Iki Town)
*Returning stages I know so far:
^Peach’s Castle (64)
^Congo Jungle (64)
^Jungle Hyjinx
^Icicle Mountain
^Fountain of Dreams
^Dreamland
^Pirate Ship
^Mario Bros.
^Big Battle Field
^Gamer
^Rainbow Road
^Paper Mario
^Wooly World
*New Modes:
Boss Rush
SSE type of story mode with full cutscenes
All previous modes including Smash Run, Smash Tour, Tournaments, Spectating, etc. returns

About the Isabelle Vergeben thread, it's gone.

I find that weird. The Ridley, Ice Climber, and Simon Belmont leak threads remained up even after it was clear he was right about Ridley. Now we see him leak Isabelle and not even a day later, the thread went poof.
Either he deleted it or the mods took it down like they took down ChaosZero's leak threads during the Brawl era. I imagine we'll hear what happened from him soon.
 
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Alright, here's every supposed leak that I have documented containing both Simon and Isabelle. There's a total of 18 that I'm splitting between two sessions, one for "leaks" that will live past July, and one for "leaks" that don't.
My source worked at Bandai Namco and was on the former balancing team for patches 1.0.6 to 1.1.7 which is now a core part of Sakurai's main team. The old team reverted many of their past changes and are adding new changes in their place, but it's not bad, expect characters like Sheik and Diddy to feel stronger in some ways and weaker in others. Sakurai is taking a bigger personal role in balancing the game instead of just overseeing everything, much more like he did in Brawl and Melee, he is very interested in learning about the competitive scene recently. Bayonetta is indeed getting additional nerfs, mostly adding more lag to her specials if she misses (Witch Time, Witch Twist), and reducing kill power of Up air. Most characters are getting buffed or nerfed as you'd expect, although strangely, Yoshi is getting nerfed overall, Sakurai felt he was too strong on For Glory. Diddy Kong is getting buffed, my source and friends tried stopping it but Sakurai doesn't get why Diddy is good as is and thinks he needs more power.
Post questions about characters and I'll try to answer them individually.

Also, here are your Newcomers:
>Simon
>Steve
>Tails (Sonic Echo)
>Geno
>Isabelle (Villager Echo)
>King K. Rool

And yes, Sakurai has heard about Waluigi but he will not be in the base game, DLC is still up in the air.
Newcomer Hints: Whip, Pic Related, Witch, Sliced Apple, Anime, Archer, House, Science, Cards.

Echo Hints: Prime, Edgy, Dog, Asthma, Blue Hair.

Assist Hints: Lego, Merchant Egg, Octopus, Divine, Dad, Pig.

Bayonetta Hint: Something was on purpose and rigged for victory. The ballot, the viability, one of those is correct, one of those is false.

Source: Someone you're all well aware of.

This is the leak that got the "Ballot was rigged" claim correct before the news broke.
*waves*

It's me, Peach! Today I have some exquisite information for all of you regarding the new Smash Bros. game on Nintendo Switch.

There's just six more full fighters.

Personally, I am most excited that my personal assistant Toad will be joining the battle as Captain Toad. I've already made a cake for the occasion! In Smash Ultimate, Captain Toad cannot jump, but has several moves that work as strong recovery options, notably his minecart and the propeller box from 3D World.

The second is Ashley from Diamond City. I don't know a lot about her but supposedly she is one of Wario's friends. Her demon Red supports her, turning into various objects for many of her attacks.

Thirdly, we have King K. Rool. I've heard he's about the same weight as Bowser, which is quite scary! Like Ashley for Japan, he was chosen to appeal to the western audiences.

I can also confirm we have a newcomer from our friends over at the Konami Kingdom, Simon Belmont.

Also joining the battle is Bandanna Waddle Dee! He's such a cutey, isn't he? He fights with his spear similarly to his recent appearances in Star Allies and Return to Dreamland.

The final new roster addition is... an odd man. He's a very blocky fellow who calls himself Steve. I'm quite surprised at his physique, but supposedly he is a master of adapting to different situations, able to quickly create items during the battle.

Each fighter comes with their own stage, too!

Captain Toad - Battle Tower Blitz
Ashley - Diamond City
King K. Rool - Gangplank Galleon
Simon Belmont - Dracula's Castle
Bandanna Waddle Dee - Dream Palace
Steve - New World (works sort of like the Mario Maker stage!)

Teehee! I wouldn't just leave you all with only this, so here's some of those Echo fighters! Eeeee! I'm so excited my pal Daisy is my Echo fighter!

4e - Dark Samus
18e - Dr. Luigi (this one has me quite surprised!)
32e - Chrom
45e - Isabelle

Also, Robin's new final smash turns them into a possessed version of themself! Spooky D:
>Lycanroc Dusk is the pokemon newcomer, its final smash has it use it's z move with the other two. Mimikyu and Decidueye are not playable, there is no other pokemon newcomer
>Banjo Kazooie is a newcomer, they shoot eggs, have a wonder wing move, and their final smash is jjinjonator, Minecraft gets a stage
>Ashley is a newcomer, spell moveset, final smash is a big spell.
>K Rool is a newcomer, uses gadgets and tricks, final smash is the blast o matic
>9 Unique newcomers, 5 echos
>Dixie Kong Isabelle and Shadow are echos
>Bandana Dee is not playable
>Shovel Knight is not playable
>Shantae is not playable
>Chrom is still Robin's final smash
>Captain Toad is not playable
>There is no fire emblem newcomer
>Dephino, Jungle Hijinx, Yoshi's Island Melee, Rainbow Road, Paper Mario, Dream Land 3ds, Pirate Ship, Peach's 64, Kongo 64, Pictochat, Mute City 3ds, and Orbital Gate return
>Miiverse, Sector Z, Planet Zebes, Poke Floats, Pictochat 2, and Golden Plains do not return
>SR388, Fortuna, Neo Los Angeles, and Frosty Fruits are new stages
>Qbby from Boxboy is an assist trophy
>Chibi Robo is an assist trophy
>Ravio is an assist trophy
>Chun Li is an assist trophy
>Sephiroth is an assist trophy
>Salazzle is a new pokeball
>Alolan Exeggutor is a new pokeball
>Popplio is a new pokeball pokemon
I have some Information regarding the upcoming super smash bros ultimate for Nintendo switch.

The remaining newcomers are-
King k rool
Geno
Simon belmont
Tails (Similar to sonic, not quite an echo though)
Isabelle (Similar situation to tails)

Springman and rex/pyra are in the planning stages and will be DLC, a few others are being considered. A 7th gen pokemon is almost definitely going to happen, but which one hasn't been decided yet.

Might be dead for claiming DLC is being planned, but I'll let it live as DLC isn't being developed, but just planned.
Hey guys I just go off work from Nintendo and thought I would like to talk about something I found out when walking by on the development of the new Super Smash Bros. game.

Based on what I saw when the roster was loaded, the following newcomers seem to be added to the game:
- Dixie Kong
- Heihachi
- Elma
- Simon
- Steve
- Karate Joe
- Arle
- Issac
- Tiki

With these guys as Echo Fighters:
- Ken
- Shadow
- Isabelle
- Dr. Luigi
- Chrom
- Richter

These characters however are becoming Assist Trophies:
- K. Rool
- Geno
- Banjo-Kazooie
- Creeper
- Susie
- Draco
- Anna
- Alucard
- President Lincoln (from Codename S.T.E.A.M.)
- Zero
- Nightmare
- Klonoa

These stages I found are returning from the previous entries:
- Fountain of Dreams
- Meta Crystal
- Hanenbow
- Poké Floats
- Mario Bros.
- Pac-Maze
- Mushroom Kingdom (64)
- Mute City (3DS)
- Planet Zebes

These stages will be added as brand new stages:
- Dracula's Castle
- Minecraft
- Spring Stadium
- A stage based on Tekken
- Alola Region
- Primp Town
- Forest Maze
- Magikarp Festival
- Sky Skipper
- Sonic Mania
- Park Avenue
- Planet Robobot

I didn't have time to dive deep into what all of these do and how you unlock them, but I hope this gets you excited for the game!
So yesterday, me and two other raters at the ESRB were given access to a video "presentation" of Smash Ultimate. Unfortunately for job security I was unable to get any photo or video evidence of what I saw, but you can choose to listen to me or not.
First off, I was told that development is mostly finished now, with the exception of bug testing and tweaking. The ESRB takes leaks very seriously (especially after the last game), so I will be brief.
There were 6 new characters I saw.
Banjo Kazooie was in one of the battles. It was like some sort of adventure mode but it was multiplayer competitive. Banjo had an attack involving Kazooie pooping out eggs. (We have to mark off things like that).
I also saw Simon Belmont, who was fighting against Bowser, Snake, and Louie. Simon used his whip in a lot of his attacks, as well as Castlevania weapons like the Cross throw and Potion.
There was another character who I missed the name of who had purple hair. She was only shown off during a montage of gameplay modes.
I saw Isabelle from Animal Crossing show up, but she used all the same moves as Villager, just "dantier" I guess.
They had someone named Masked Man (not sure what game he's from, maybe Earthbound). He had a sword and used lightning attacks.
Finally I saw Paper Mario in a mode where you work with Master Hand for prizes. He uses his partners from the N64 game and throws Stickers.
I'll answer any questions you guys have but namely I was not shown a picture of the full roster. I saw a select screen that was incomplete and only had a few characters.
ACTUAL Smash Leaks

Don't get your hopes up too high, guys. I have no idea about DLC but this is just for launch.

Simon is getting in. My guess is that they're announcing it when they announce the rumored (but obviously real) Castlevaina compilation. My guess is it will be around the launch of season 2 on Netflix. This is all just a guess, though.

And that is the only new character. There are others but they're just echo fighters. Thankfully none of them are Fire Emblem.

Classic Sonic is an echo fighter of Sonic. I have no idea how he plays. I'm just reading these off a list. My guess is maybe he has tighter controls if they want to really represent Classic Sonic. He's referred to as 'Classic Sonic' in documentation so I assume that's how he's referred to in-game, as well. I'm actually a little excited for this one.

Isabella is an echo fighter for villager. Don't even have a guess what the differences could be.

Ms. Pac-Man is another echo fighter. Same with Isabella. No idea how she'll be different.

The most disappointing echo fighter on the list is Dixie. She deserves her own moveset. ****ing sucks.

And finally, Octoling. Not a surprise.

That's all I know. No idea about ATs or anything else or even when they'll announce these guys (besides Simon but that's just a guess). You guys can ask me stuff but I probably won't know. But I might remember something I've forgotten if something is worded right? I dunno. He's hoping we get Rex as DLC.
>Mimikkyu
>Elma
>Shizue (Dash fighter)
>Chrom (Dash fighter)
>K Rool
>Belmondo
>Geno
>Ninten (Dash Fighter)
>Dark Samus (Dash Fighter)
>Shadow (Dash Fighter)
>Tapper
>Reimu
Nintendo Direct August 3rd
Super Smash Bros. reveal trailer
A shadowy figure flies above as a hero steps out of the darkness.
"Belmont has his stake in this!"
He follows the figure as it flies to a lofty bell tower. He climbs a spiral staircase and defeats skeletons and bats before arriving at the top. The bell sounds as he looks around. Sensing his foe: "Die monster. You don't belong in this world!" An evil laugh echoes out and the demon attacks. "Overconfidence will destroy you" Sephiroth joins the fray!

Belmont is a new design drawing inspiration from Simon, Trevor, Richtor, Juste and huh? Alucard? and has costumes to represent each of them. Sephiroth's design is based on his "One-Winged Angel" classic design but has costumes for his Advent Children and Kingdom Hearts designs.

A third character is teased. A telescope has been watching the battle unfold in the bell tower. A female giggle is heard and the telescope is flung skyward, disappearing in a STAR graphic effect.

MAY/MAY NOT BE OP

Inkling, Daisy, Ridley, Belmont, Sephiroth, Lip, Dark Samus, Isabelle, Dixie Kong, Chrom, Hades
I work in the graphics team at Bandai Namco, and am working on smash ultimate. i wont say much about where i work, as i was make to sign an agreement not to divulge any information about the new game. however, like you, I would want to know whos gonna be in the game, and who isn't. This formats probably gonna suck because I'm not used to 4chan, and I'm also not gonna explain too much about the characters, in order to try and not make my identity too prominent.
In total, there will be 8 newcomers, including Ridley and Inkling, and 6 more echoes. This may seem contradictory, but apparently Sakurai is trying to do this so that he can leave the fanbase happy while he attempts to make as many DLC characters as Nintendo allows him to. Remember, budgets are a thing.

The 6 newcomers yet to be revealed are:
King K Rool
Geno
Simon Belmont
Okami
Ashley
Heihachi

Many people I work with believe that Dixie is going to be the first DLC character, as she can take much influence from diddy and she is wanted much like mewtwo was in the development of SSB4.

Anyways, the 6 echoes are:
Chrom
Shadow
Isabelle
Hilda
Dry Bowser
Dark Samus

I cannot confirm that there will be a subspace emissary, but what i can confirm is that all the characters will be able to be unlocked in a type of classic mode, where the final boss on each run will be a new fighter that has yet to be unlocked. From what I've seen, these characters will also be able to be unlocked in other ways, such as playing multiple amounts of matches.
In terms of when these will be revealed, I don't know, but i overheard people saying that some echoes wont get trailers, rather, a couple may be revealed in a smash focused direct, and
>K. Rool is in
>Ashley is in
>Simon Belmont is in
>Decidueye is not in, the pokemon rep is Lycanroc
>Rex and Pyra are in
>Shadow is in, echo of Sonic obviously
>Isabelle is in, villager echo
>Fountain of Dreams, Yoshi's Island, and Brinstar Depths come back from Melee
>Hanenbow, Delphino, and Pirate Ship come back from Brawl
>Dream Land, Mute City, and Rainbow Road return from 3ds
>Gamer, Jungle Hijinxs, and Orbital Gate Assault are back from Wii U
>Pikmin is not getting a new stage
>F Zero is not getting a new stage either.
>Classic Mode is different from Wii U version, more similar to 3DS and Brawl/Melee
>All Star is now based on when the fighter entered smash
>Event Mode is back


>Expect a newcomer revealed in July

This is just some stuff I found interesting, I will be on here for likely a little white, might post more.
Smash Bros Ultimate
The next super smash bros game will have 10 more newcomers. Each Month 2 new fighters will be annoced each month. It seems to look like each month one fighter would be a new fighter, while the other is an echo fighter. In july we will see Excite Biker, and Chrom from Fire Embelm. August will have King Krool, and Shadow the Hedehog. Semtemper will have Crash Bandicoot and Doomguy. Doomguy or crash may be an echo fighter because each month has on echo and one new fighter. October has Isabell from animal crossing as an echo for villager, and Steve from Mincraft. November has Funky kong, most likely an echo, and Lycanroc. December had Simon Belmont and Spike from the Mario games. Release Date December 7th
A friend of mine that works for Ninthendo of American has some inside information about the charters for Super Smash Bros. Ultimate.

Decidueye will be revealed during a July Nintendo Direct Mini.

Heihachi will be revealed at EVO 2018.

Steve will be revealed at MineCon Earth 2018.

Siomon will be revealed on Halloween.

King K. Roll will be revealed During a November Nintendo Direct.

Karate Joe will be revealed on a Smash Bros direct just days before the game releases.

In the Direct, we will be told Banjo-Kazooie is in development as a DLC charter, and DLC for the game will release through out the switches life time.

Chartes not revealed before lunch are Geno, Dixie Kong, Dark Samus, Chrom, Isabel, Tails, and Shadow.
Hello. I am here from previous about my Smash codename leaks. I want to give out the full leaks, since I am frustrated of people getting them wrong.

July - King K. Rool and Dixie Kong
August - Heihachi Mishima
September - Decidueye
October - Simon Belmont and Isabelle
November - Dark Samus
December - Chorus Kids, Kat and Ana, Geno, and Ninten.

Here are also some leaks for the stages: Peach's Castle, Delfino Plaza, Brinstar Depths, and Poke Floats are going to return. G Corp Helipad, Gangplank Galleon, Dracula's Castle, Assembly Dojo, and Rhythm Heaven are going to be the new stages.
>List of new characters for Super Smash Bros Ultimate in the dataminer.

>King- Unlike many insiders say, this character is not King. K Roll. This character would be no one else but none other than Prince Noctis of Final Fantasy XV
>Ponytail - It would be Dixie Kong, an Echo Fighter by Diddy Kong
>Old Man- He would be the Heihachi character of the Tekken series
>Archer- The Archer is the Deciduey of Pokémon Sun and Moon, as many people had predicted
>Warrior - It would be the Simon Belmont of the Castlevania series (No news)
>Secretary- Is Isabell from Animal Crossing the same, as everyone had said
>Mech- It would be the Rex of Xenoblade Chronicles 2
>Rhythm- Rhythm is nothing more and nothing less than Marshall, character of the series Rythm Heaven.
>Folklore- Musashi, protagonist of Sushi Strike: The Way of Sushido is Folklore.
>Doll- It would be the Geno from Super Mario RPG: The Legend of Seven Stars
>Prime Ribs- This character is Ninten from the Mother series, he will be an Echo Fighter from Nes.
>Rainbow - He is Captain Rainbow, who will be an Echo Fighter from Captain Falcon.

>Surprise character - Toadette, she is not a playable character, however, she appears in a random action and will present herself as a file already unlocked or not in a random attempt in her fight. It will appear more in online games, however it can appear even in other modes how All-Stars Mode for example.
Hello everyone. I work as one of many translators for Super Smash Bros. Ultimate for the U.S. I don’t know everything about the game, but my fellow co-workers shared me some information regarding the upcoming game.
*66 K. K. Rool and 67 Dixie Kong are in the game. Both will be revealed in July this month in an upcoming direct. Dixie is a semi-clone with her hairspin techs, gum ball popgun, guitar, etc.
*68 Heihachi will be revealed at EVO and will be playable at the EVO build of the game.
{There will be an exhibition match with Heihachi and Ryu.}
*69 Geno From Super MARIO RPG
{There is a 3D model of Mallow (Final smash? Assist?}
*70 Amaterasu from Okami
{Uses black paint smash attacks}
*71 Ninten from Earthbound Beginnings
{PK fire variant that meteor smash opponents in air. PK beam standard B}
*72 Bandana Waddle Dee from Kirby
{Uses spear attacks and a parisol similar to Peach and DAISY}
*73 Ashley from WarioWare
{No info N/A}
*74 Decidueye from Pokémon
{Moveset inspired by Pokken Tournament and uses sinister arrow raid as Final Smash. Long Range attacker}
*16’ Impa
{No info N/A}
*45’ Isabelle
{Isabelle’s tree always spawns fruits. Different Color butterfly net, Lloid rocket stays horizontal, Faster than Villager}
*New stages I know so far:
^New Donk City
^The Oddysey {Stage that travels around ^different SMO Worlds}
^Gangplank Galleon
^R.O.B Famicon
^Ashley’s Mansion
^Dragon’s Nest {Tekken 7}
^Melemele Island (Iki Town)
*Returning stages I know so far:
^Peach’s Castle (64)
^Congo Jungle (64)
^Jungle Hyjinx
^Icicle Mountain
^Fountain of Dreams
^Dreamland
^Pirate Ship
^Mario Bros.
^Big Battle Field
^Gamer
^Rainbow Road
^Paper Mario
^Wooly World
*New Modes:
Boss Rush
SSE type of story mode with full cutscenes
All previous modes including Smash Run, Smash Tour, Tournaments, Spectating, etc. returns
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Alright, here's every supposed leak that I have documented containing both Simon and Isabelle. There's a total of 18 that I'm splitting between two sessions, one for "leaks" that will live past July, and one for "leaks" that don't.
My source worked at Bandai Namco and was on the former balancing team for patches 1.0.6 to 1.1.7 which is now a core part of Sakurai's main team. The old team reverted many of their past changes and are adding new changes in their place, but it's not bad, expect characters like Sheik and Diddy to feel stronger in some ways and weaker in others. Sakurai is taking a bigger personal role in balancing the game instead of just overseeing everything, much more like he did in Brawl and Melee, he is very interested in learning about the competitive scene recently. Bayonetta is indeed getting additional nerfs, mostly adding more lag to her specials if she misses (Witch Time, Witch Twist), and reducing kill power of Up air. Most characters are getting buffed or nerfed as you'd expect, although strangely, Yoshi is getting nerfed overall, Sakurai felt he was too strong on For Glory. Diddy Kong is getting buffed, my source and friends tried stopping it but Sakurai doesn't get why Diddy is good as is and thinks he needs more power.
Post questions about characters and I'll try to answer them individually.

Also, here are your Newcomers:
>Simon
>Steve
>Tails (Sonic Echo)
>Geno
>Isabelle (Villager Echo)
>King K. Rool

And yes, Sakurai has heard about Waluigi but he will not be in the base game, DLC is still up in the air.
Newcomer Hints: Whip, Pic Related, Witch, Sliced Apple, Anime, Archer, House, Science, Cards.

Echo Hints: Prime, Edgy, Dog, Asthma, Blue Hair.

Assist Hints: Lego, Merchant Egg, Octopus, Divine, Dad, Pig.

Bayonetta Hint: Something was on purpose and rigged for victory. The ballot, the viability, one of those is correct, one of those is false.

Source: Someone you're all well aware of.

This is the leak that got the "Ballot was rigged" claim correct before the news broke.
*waves*

It's me, Peach! Today I have some exquisite information for all of you regarding the new Smash Bros. game on Nintendo Switch.

There's just six more full fighters.

Personally, I am most excited that my personal assistant Toad will be joining the battle as Captain Toad. I've already made a cake for the occasion! In Smash Ultimate, Captain Toad cannot jump, but has several moves that work as strong recovery options, notably his minecart and the propeller box from 3D World.

The second is Ashley from Diamond City. I don't know a lot about her but supposedly she is one of Wario's friends. Her demon Red supports her, turning into various objects for many of her attacks.

Thirdly, we have King K. Rool. I've heard he's about the same weight as Bowser, which is quite scary! Like Ashley for Japan, he was chosen to appeal to the western audiences.

I can also confirm we have a newcomer from our friends over at the Konami Kingdom, Simon Belmont.

Also joining the battle is Bandanna Waddle Dee! He's such a cutey, isn't he? He fights with his spear similarly to his recent appearances in Star Allies and Return to Dreamland.

The final new roster addition is... an odd man. He's a very blocky fellow who calls himself Steve. I'm quite surprised at his physique, but supposedly he is a master of adapting to different situations, able to quickly create items during the battle.

Each fighter comes with their own stage, too!

Captain Toad - Battle Tower Blitz
Ashley - Diamond City
King K. Rool - Gangplank Galleon
Simon Belmont - Dracula's Castle
Bandanna Waddle Dee - Dream Palace
Steve - New World (works sort of like the Mario Maker stage!)

Teehee! I wouldn't just leave you all with only this, so here's some of those Echo fighters! Eeeee! I'm so excited my pal Daisy is my Echo fighter!

4e - Dark Samus
18e - Dr. Luigi (this one has me quite surprised!)
32e - Chrom
45e - Isabelle

Also, Robin's new final smash turns them into a possessed version of themself! Spooky D:
>Lycanroc Dusk is the pokemon newcomer, its final smash has it use it's z move with the other two. Mimikyu and Decidueye are not playable, there is no other pokemon newcomer
>Banjo Kazooie is a newcomer, they shoot eggs, have a wonder wing move, and their final smash is jjinjonator, Minecraft gets a stage
>Ashley is a newcomer, spell moveset, final smash is a big spell.
>K Rool is a newcomer, uses gadgets and tricks, final smash is the blast o matic
>9 Unique newcomers, 5 echos
>Dixie Kong Isabelle and Shadow are echos
>Bandana Dee is not playable
>Shovel Knight is not playable
>Shantae is not playable
>Chrom is still Robin's final smash
>Captain Toad is not playable
>There is no fire emblem newcomer
>Dephino, Jungle Hijinx, Yoshi's Island Melee, Rainbow Road, Paper Mario, Dream Land 3ds, Pirate Ship, Peach's 64, Kongo 64, Pictochat, Mute City 3ds, and Orbital Gate return
>Miiverse, Sector Z, Planet Zebes, Poke Floats, Pictochat 2, and Golden Plains do not return
>SR388, Fortuna, Neo Los Angeles, and Frosty Fruits are new stages
>Qbby from Boxboy is an assist trophy
>Chibi Robo is an assist trophy
>Ravio is an assist trophy
>Chun Li is an assist trophy
>Sephiroth is an assist trophy
>Salazzle is a new pokeball
>Alolan Exeggutor is a new pokeball
>Popplio is a new pokeball pokemon
I have some Information regarding the upcoming super smash bros ultimate for Nintendo switch.

The remaining newcomers are-
King k rool
Geno
Simon belmont
Tails (Similar to sonic, not quite an echo though)
Isabelle (Similar situation to tails)

Springman and rex/pyra are in the planning stages and will be DLC, a few others are being considered. A 7th gen pokemon is almost definitely going to happen, but which one hasn't been decided yet.

Might be dead for claiming DLC is being planned, but I'll let it live as DLC isn't being developed, but just planned.
Hey guys I just go off work from Nintendo and thought I would like to talk about something I found out when walking by on the development of the new Super Smash Bros. game.

Based on what I saw when the roster was loaded, the following newcomers seem to be added to the game:
- Dixie Kong
- Heihachi
- Elma
- Simon
- Steve
- Karate Joe
- Arle
- Issac
- Tiki

With these guys as Echo Fighters:
- Ken
- Shadow
- Isabelle
- Dr. Luigi
- Chrom
- Richter

These characters however are becoming Assist Trophies:
- K. Rool
- Geno
- Banjo-Kazooie
- Creeper
- Susie
- Draco
- Anna
- Alucard
- President Lincoln (from Codename S.T.E.A.M.)
- Zero
- Nightmare
- Klonoa

These stages I found are returning from the previous entries:
- Fountain of Dreams
- Meta Crystal
- Hanenbow
- Poké Floats
- Mario Bros.
- Pac-Maze
- Mushroom Kingdom (64)
- Mute City (3DS)
- Planet Zebes

These stages will be added as brand new stages:
- Dracula's Castle
- Minecraft
- Spring Stadium
- A stage based on Tekken
- Alola Region
- Primp Town
- Forest Maze
- Magikarp Festival
- Sky Skipper
- Sonic Mania
- Park Avenue
- Planet Robobot

I didn't have time to dive deep into what all of these do and how you unlock them, but I hope this gets you excited for the game!
So yesterday, me and two other raters at the ESRB were given access to a video "presentation" of Smash Ultimate. Unfortunately for job security I was unable to get any photo or video evidence of what I saw, but you can choose to listen to me or not.
First off, I was told that development is mostly finished now, with the exception of bug testing and tweaking. The ESRB takes leaks very seriously (especially after the last game), so I will be brief.
There were 6 new characters I saw.
Banjo Kazooie was in one of the battles. It was like some sort of adventure mode but it was multiplayer competitive. Banjo had an attack involving Kazooie pooping out eggs. (We have to mark off things like that).
I also saw Simon Belmont, who was fighting against Bowser, Snake, and Louie. Simon used his whip in a lot of his attacks, as well as Castlevania weapons like the Cross throw and Potion.
There was another character who I missed the name of who had purple hair. She was only shown off during a montage of gameplay modes.
I saw Isabelle from Animal Crossing show up, but she used all the same moves as Villager, just "dantier" I guess.
They had someone named Masked Man (not sure what game he's from, maybe Earthbound). He had a sword and used lightning attacks.
Finally I saw Paper Mario in a mode where you work with Master Hand for prizes. He uses his partners from the N64 game and throws Stickers.
I'll answer any questions you guys have but namely I was not shown a picture of the full roster. I saw a select screen that was incomplete and only had a few characters.
ACTUAL Smash Leaks

Don't get your hopes up too high, guys. I have no idea about DLC but this is just for launch.

Simon is getting in. My guess is that they're announcing it when they announce the rumored (but obviously real) Castlevaina compilation. My guess is it will be around the launch of season 2 on Netflix. This is all just a guess, though.

And that is the only new character. There are others but they're just echo fighters. Thankfully none of them are Fire Emblem.

Classic Sonic is an echo fighter of Sonic. I have no idea how he plays. I'm just reading these off a list. My guess is maybe he has tighter controls if they want to really represent Classic Sonic. He's referred to as 'Classic Sonic' in documentation so I assume that's how he's referred to in-game, as well. I'm actually a little excited for this one.

Isabella is an echo fighter for villager. Don't even have a guess what the differences could be.

Ms. Pac-Man is another echo fighter. Same with Isabella. No idea how she'll be different.

The most disappointing echo fighter on the list is Dixie. She deserves her own moveset. ****ing sucks.

And finally, Octoling. Not a surprise.

That's all I know. No idea about ATs or anything else or even when they'll announce these guys (besides Simon but that's just a guess). You guys can ask me stuff but I probably won't know. But I might remember something I've forgotten if something is worded right? I dunno. He's hoping we get Rex as DLC.
>Mimikkyu
>Elma
>Shizue (Dash fighter)
>Chrom (Dash fighter)
>K Rool
>Belmondo
>Geno
>Ninten (Dash Fighter)
>Dark Samus (Dash Fighter)
>Shadow (Dash Fighter)
>Tapper
>Reimu
Nintendo Direct August 3rd
Super Smash Bros. reveal trailer
A shadowy figure flies above as a hero steps out of the darkness.
"Belmont has his stake in this!"
He follows the figure as it flies to a lofty bell tower. He climbs a spiral staircase and defeats skeletons and bats before arriving at the top. The bell sounds as he looks around. Sensing his foe: "Die monster. You don't belong in this world!" An evil laugh echoes out and the demon attacks. "Overconfidence will destroy you" Sephiroth joins the fray!

Belmont is a new design drawing inspiration from Simon, Trevor, Richtor, Juste and huh? Alucard? and has costumes to represent each of them. Sephiroth's design is based on his "One-Winged Angel" classic design but has costumes for his Advent Children and Kingdom Hearts designs.

A third character is teased. A telescope has been watching the battle unfold in the bell tower. A female giggle is heard and the telescope is flung skyward, disappearing in a STAR graphic effect.

MAY/MAY NOT BE OP

Inkling, Daisy, Ridley, Belmont, Sephiroth, Lip, Dark Samus, Isabelle, Dixie Kong, Chrom, Hades
I work in the graphics team at Bandai Namco, and am working on smash ultimate. i wont say much about where i work, as i was make to sign an agreement not to divulge any information about the new game. however, like you, I would want to know whos gonna be in the game, and who isn't. This formats probably gonna suck because I'm not used to 4chan, and I'm also not gonna explain too much about the characters, in order to try and not make my identity too prominent.
In total, there will be 8 newcomers, including Ridley and Inkling, and 6 more echoes. This may seem contradictory, but apparently Sakurai is trying to do this so that he can leave the fanbase happy while he attempts to make as many DLC characters as Nintendo allows him to. Remember, budgets are a thing.

The 6 newcomers yet to be revealed are:
King K Rool
Geno
Simon Belmont
Okami
Ashley
Heihachi

Many people I work with believe that Dixie is going to be the first DLC character, as she can take much influence from diddy and she is wanted much like mewtwo was in the development of SSB4.

Anyways, the 6 echoes are:
Chrom
Shadow
Isabelle
Hilda
Dry Bowser
Dark Samus

I cannot confirm that there will be a subspace emissary, but what i can confirm is that all the characters will be able to be unlocked in a type of classic mode, where the final boss on each run will be a new fighter that has yet to be unlocked. From what I've seen, these characters will also be able to be unlocked in other ways, such as playing multiple amounts of matches.
In terms of when these will be revealed, I don't know, but i overheard people saying that some echoes wont get trailers, rather, a couple may be revealed in a smash focused direct, and
>K. Rool is in
>Ashley is in
>Simon Belmont is in
>Decidueye is not in, the pokemon rep is Lycanroc
>Rex and Pyra are in
>Shadow is in, echo of Sonic obviously
>Isabelle is in, villager echo
>Fountain of Dreams, Yoshi's Island, and Brinstar Depths come back from Melee
>Hanenbow, Delphino, and Pirate Ship come back from Brawl
>Dream Land, Mute City, and Rainbow Road return from 3ds
>Gamer, Jungle Hijinxs, and Orbital Gate Assault are back from Wii U
>Pikmin is not getting a new stage
>F Zero is not getting a new stage either.
>Classic Mode is different from Wii U version, more similar to 3DS and Brawl/Melee
>All Star is now based on when the fighter entered smash
>Event Mode is back


>Expect a newcomer revealed in July

This is just some stuff I found interesting, I will be on here for likely a little white, might post more.
Smash Bros Ultimate
The next super smash bros game will have 10 more newcomers. Each Month 2 new fighters will be annoced each month. It seems to look like each month one fighter would be a new fighter, while the other is an echo fighter. In july we will see Excite Biker, and Chrom from Fire Embelm. August will have King Krool, and Shadow the Hedehog. Semtemper will have Crash Bandicoot and Doomguy. Doomguy or crash may be an echo fighter because each month has on echo and one new fighter. October has Isabell from animal crossing as an echo for villager, and Steve from Mincraft. November has Funky kong, most likely an echo, and Lycanroc. December had Simon Belmont and Spike from the Mario games. Release Date December 7th
A friend of mine that works for Ninthendo of American has some inside information about the charters for Super Smash Bros. Ultimate.

Decidueye will be revealed during a July Nintendo Direct Mini.

Heihachi will be revealed at EVO 2018.

Steve will be revealed at MineCon Earth 2018.

Siomon will be revealed on Halloween.

King K. Roll will be revealed During a November Nintendo Direct.

Karate Joe will be revealed on a Smash Bros direct just days before the game releases.

In the Direct, we will be told Banjo-Kazooie is in development as a DLC charter, and DLC for the game will release through out the switches life time.

Chartes not revealed before lunch are Geno, Dixie Kong, Dark Samus, Chrom, Isabel, Tails, and Shadow.
Hello. I am here from previous about my Smash codename leaks. I want to give out the full leaks, since I am frustrated of people getting them wrong.

July - King K. Rool and Dixie Kong
August - Heihachi Mishima
September - Decidueye
October - Simon Belmont and Isabelle
November - Dark Samus
December - Chorus Kids, Kat and Ana, Geno, and Ninten.

Here are also some leaks for the stages: Peach's Castle, Delfino Plaza, Brinstar Depths, and Poke Floats are going to return. G Corp Helipad, Gangplank Galleon, Dracula's Castle, Assembly Dojo, and Rhythm Heaven are going to be the new stages.
>List of new characters for Super Smash Bros Ultimate in the dataminer.

>King- Unlike many insiders say, this character is not King. K Roll. This character would be no one else but none other than Prince Noctis of Final Fantasy XV
>Ponytail - It would be Dixie Kong, an Echo Fighter by Diddy Kong
>Old Man- He would be the Heihachi character of the Tekken series
>Archer- The Archer is the Deciduey of Pokémon Sun and Moon, as many people had predicted
>Warrior - It would be the Simon Belmont of the Castlevania series (No news)
>Secretary- Is Isabell from Animal Crossing the same, as everyone had said
>Mech- It would be the Rex of Xenoblade Chronicles 2
>Rhythm- Rhythm is nothing more and nothing less than Marshall, character of the series Rythm Heaven.
>Folklore- Musashi, protagonist of Sushi Strike: The Way of Sushido is Folklore.
>Doll- It would be the Geno from Super Mario RPG: The Legend of Seven Stars
>Prime Ribs- This character is Ninten from the Mother series, he will be an Echo Fighter from Nes.
>Rainbow - He is Captain Rainbow, who will be an Echo Fighter from Captain Falcon.

>Surprise character - Toadette, she is not a playable character, however, she appears in a random action and will present herself as a file already unlocked or not in a random attempt in her fight. It will appear more in online games, however it can appear even in other modes how All-Stars Mode for example.
Hello everyone. I work as one of many translators for Super Smash Bros. Ultimate for the U.S. I don’t know everything about the game, but my fellow co-workers shared me some information regarding the upcoming game.
*66 K. K. Rool and 67 Dixie Kong are in the game. Both will be revealed in July this month in an upcoming direct. Dixie is a semi-clone with her hairspin techs, gum ball popgun, guitar, etc.
*68 Heihachi will be revealed at EVO and will be playable at the EVO build of the game.
{There will be an exhibition match with Heihachi and Ryu.}
*69 Geno From Super MARIO RPG
{There is a 3D model of Mallow (Final smash? Assist?}
*70 Amaterasu from Okami
{Uses black paint smash attacks}
*71 Ninten from Earthbound Beginnings
{PK fire variant that meteor smash opponents in air. PK beam standard B}
*72 Bandana Waddle Dee from Kirby
{Uses spear attacks and a parisol similar to Peach and DAISY}
*73 Ashley from WarioWare
{No info N/A}
*74 Decidueye from Pokémon
{Moveset inspired by Pokken Tournament and uses sinister arrow raid as Final Smash. Long Range attacker}
*16’ Impa
{No info N/A}
*45’ Isabelle
{Isabelle’s tree always spawns fruits. Different Color butterfly net, Lloid rocket stays horizontal, Faster than Villager}
*New stages I know so far:
^New Donk City
^The Oddysey {Stage that travels around ^different SMO Worlds}
^Gangplank Galleon
^R.O.B Famicon
^Ashley’s Mansion
^Dragon’s Nest {Tekken 7}
^Melemele Island (Iki Town)
*Returning stages I know so far:
^Peach’s Castle (64)
^Congo Jungle (64)
^Jungle Hyjinx
^Icicle Mountain
^Fountain of Dreams
^Dreamland
^Pirate Ship
^Mario Bros.
^Big Battle Field
^Gamer
^Rainbow Road
^Paper Mario
^Wooly World
*New Modes:
Boss Rush
SSE type of story mode with full cutscenes
All previous modes including Smash Run, Smash Tour, Tournaments, Spectating, etc. returns


Either he deleted it or the mods took it down like they took down ChaosZero's leak threads during the Brawl era. I imagine we'll hear what happened from him soon.
Man am I glad none of these will be true lol. 7 and 10 would be neat though
 

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Alright, here's every supposed leak that I have documented containing both Simon and Isabelle. There's a total of 18 that I'm splitting between two sessions, one for "leaks" that will live past July, and one for "leaks" that don't.
My source worked at Bandai Namco and was on the former balancing team for patches 1.0.6 to 1.1.7 which is now a core part of Sakurai's main team. The old team reverted many of their past changes and are adding new changes in their place, but it's not bad, expect characters like Sheik and Diddy to feel stronger in some ways and weaker in others. Sakurai is taking a bigger personal role in balancing the game instead of just overseeing everything, much more like he did in Brawl and Melee, he is very interested in learning about the competitive scene recently. Bayonetta is indeed getting additional nerfs, mostly adding more lag to her specials if she misses (Witch Time, Witch Twist), and reducing kill power of Up air. Most characters are getting buffed or nerfed as you'd expect, although strangely, Yoshi is getting nerfed overall, Sakurai felt he was too strong on For Glory. Diddy Kong is getting buffed, my source and friends tried stopping it but Sakurai doesn't get why Diddy is good as is and thinks he needs more power.
Post questions about characters and I'll try to answer them individually.

Also, here are your Newcomers:
>Simon
>Steve
>Tails (Sonic Echo)
>Geno
>Isabelle (Villager Echo)
>King K. Rool

And yes, Sakurai has heard about Waluigi but he will not be in the base game, DLC is still up in the air.
Newcomer Hints: Whip, Pic Related, Witch, Sliced Apple, Anime, Archer, House, Science, Cards.

Echo Hints: Prime, Edgy, Dog, Asthma, Blue Hair.

Assist Hints: Lego, Merchant Egg, Octopus, Divine, Dad, Pig.

Bayonetta Hint: Something was on purpose and rigged for victory. The ballot, the viability, one of those is correct, one of those is false.

Source: Someone you're all well aware of.

This is the leak that got the "Ballot was rigged" claim correct before the news broke.
*waves*

It's me, Peach! Today I have some exquisite information for all of you regarding the new Smash Bros. game on Nintendo Switch.

There's just six more full fighters.

Personally, I am most excited that my personal assistant Toad will be joining the battle as Captain Toad. I've already made a cake for the occasion! In Smash Ultimate, Captain Toad cannot jump, but has several moves that work as strong recovery options, notably his minecart and the propeller box from 3D World.

The second is Ashley from Diamond City. I don't know a lot about her but supposedly she is one of Wario's friends. Her demon Red supports her, turning into various objects for many of her attacks.

Thirdly, we have King K. Rool. I've heard he's about the same weight as Bowser, which is quite scary! Like Ashley for Japan, he was chosen to appeal to the western audiences.

I can also confirm we have a newcomer from our friends over at the Konami Kingdom, Simon Belmont.

Also joining the battle is Bandanna Waddle Dee! He's such a cutey, isn't he? He fights with his spear similarly to his recent appearances in Star Allies and Return to Dreamland.

The final new roster addition is... an odd man. He's a very blocky fellow who calls himself Steve. I'm quite surprised at his physique, but supposedly he is a master of adapting to different situations, able to quickly create items during the battle.

Each fighter comes with their own stage, too!

Captain Toad - Battle Tower Blitz
Ashley - Diamond City
King K. Rool - Gangplank Galleon
Simon Belmont - Dracula's Castle
Bandanna Waddle Dee - Dream Palace
Steve - New World (works sort of like the Mario Maker stage!)

Teehee! I wouldn't just leave you all with only this, so here's some of those Echo fighters! Eeeee! I'm so excited my pal Daisy is my Echo fighter!

4e - Dark Samus
18e - Dr. Luigi (this one has me quite surprised!)
32e - Chrom
45e - Isabelle

Also, Robin's new final smash turns them into a possessed version of themself! Spooky D:
>Lycanroc Dusk is the pokemon newcomer, its final smash has it use it's z move with the other two. Mimikyu and Decidueye are not playable, there is no other pokemon newcomer
>Banjo Kazooie is a newcomer, they shoot eggs, have a wonder wing move, and their final smash is jjinjonator, Minecraft gets a stage
>Ashley is a newcomer, spell moveset, final smash is a big spell.
>K Rool is a newcomer, uses gadgets and tricks, final smash is the blast o matic
>9 Unique newcomers, 5 echos
>Dixie Kong Isabelle and Shadow are echos
>Bandana Dee is not playable
>Shovel Knight is not playable
>Shantae is not playable
>Chrom is still Robin's final smash
>Captain Toad is not playable
>There is no fire emblem newcomer
>Dephino, Jungle Hijinx, Yoshi's Island Melee, Rainbow Road, Paper Mario, Dream Land 3ds, Pirate Ship, Peach's 64, Kongo 64, Pictochat, Mute City 3ds, and Orbital Gate return
>Miiverse, Sector Z, Planet Zebes, Poke Floats, Pictochat 2, and Golden Plains do not return
>SR388, Fortuna, Neo Los Angeles, and Frosty Fruits are new stages
>Qbby from Boxboy is an assist trophy
>Chibi Robo is an assist trophy
>Ravio is an assist trophy
>Chun Li is an assist trophy
>Sephiroth is an assist trophy
>Salazzle is a new pokeball
>Alolan Exeggutor is a new pokeball
>Popplio is a new pokeball pokemon
I have some Information regarding the upcoming super smash bros ultimate for Nintendo switch.

The remaining newcomers are-
King k rool
Geno
Simon belmont
Tails (Similar to sonic, not quite an echo though)
Isabelle (Similar situation to tails)

Springman and rex/pyra are in the planning stages and will be DLC, a few others are being considered. A 7th gen pokemon is almost definitely going to happen, but which one hasn't been decided yet.

Might be dead for claiming DLC is being planned, but I'll let it live as DLC isn't being developed, but just planned.
Hey guys I just go off work from Nintendo and thought I would like to talk about something I found out when walking by on the development of the new Super Smash Bros. game.

Based on what I saw when the roster was loaded, the following newcomers seem to be added to the game:
- Dixie Kong
- Heihachi
- Elma
- Simon
- Steve
- Karate Joe
- Arle
- Issac
- Tiki

With these guys as Echo Fighters:
- Ken
- Shadow
- Isabelle
- Dr. Luigi
- Chrom
- Richter

These characters however are becoming Assist Trophies:
- K. Rool
- Geno
- Banjo-Kazooie
- Creeper
- Susie
- Draco
- Anna
- Alucard
- President Lincoln (from Codename S.T.E.A.M.)
- Zero
- Nightmare
- Klonoa

These stages I found are returning from the previous entries:
- Fountain of Dreams
- Meta Crystal
- Hanenbow
- Poké Floats
- Mario Bros.
- Pac-Maze
- Mushroom Kingdom (64)
- Mute City (3DS)
- Planet Zebes

These stages will be added as brand new stages:
- Dracula's Castle
- Minecraft
- Spring Stadium
- A stage based on Tekken
- Alola Region
- Primp Town
- Forest Maze
- Magikarp Festival
- Sky Skipper
- Sonic Mania
- Park Avenue
- Planet Robobot

I didn't have time to dive deep into what all of these do and how you unlock them, but I hope this gets you excited for the game!
So yesterday, me and two other raters at the ESRB were given access to a video "presentation" of Smash Ultimate. Unfortunately for job security I was unable to get any photo or video evidence of what I saw, but you can choose to listen to me or not.
First off, I was told that development is mostly finished now, with the exception of bug testing and tweaking. The ESRB takes leaks very seriously (especially after the last game), so I will be brief.
There were 6 new characters I saw.
Banjo Kazooie was in one of the battles. It was like some sort of adventure mode but it was multiplayer competitive. Banjo had an attack involving Kazooie pooping out eggs. (We have to mark off things like that).
I also saw Simon Belmont, who was fighting against Bowser, Snake, and Louie. Simon used his whip in a lot of his attacks, as well as Castlevania weapons like the Cross throw and Potion.
There was another character who I missed the name of who had purple hair. She was only shown off during a montage of gameplay modes.
I saw Isabelle from Animal Crossing show up, but she used all the same moves as Villager, just "dantier" I guess.
They had someone named Masked Man (not sure what game he's from, maybe Earthbound). He had a sword and used lightning attacks.
Finally I saw Paper Mario in a mode where you work with Master Hand for prizes. He uses his partners from the N64 game and throws Stickers.
I'll answer any questions you guys have but namely I was not shown a picture of the full roster. I saw a select screen that was incomplete and only had a few characters.
ACTUAL Smash Leaks

Don't get your hopes up too high, guys. I have no idea about DLC but this is just for launch.

Simon is getting in. My guess is that they're announcing it when they announce the rumored (but obviously real) Castlevaina compilation. My guess is it will be around the launch of season 2 on Netflix. This is all just a guess, though.

And that is the only new character. There are others but they're just echo fighters. Thankfully none of them are Fire Emblem.

Classic Sonic is an echo fighter of Sonic. I have no idea how he plays. I'm just reading these off a list. My guess is maybe he has tighter controls if they want to really represent Classic Sonic. He's referred to as 'Classic Sonic' in documentation so I assume that's how he's referred to in-game, as well. I'm actually a little excited for this one.

Isabella is an echo fighter for villager. Don't even have a guess what the differences could be.

Ms. Pac-Man is another echo fighter. Same with Isabella. No idea how she'll be different.

The most disappointing echo fighter on the list is Dixie. She deserves her own moveset. ****ing sucks.

And finally, Octoling. Not a surprise.

That's all I know. No idea about ATs or anything else or even when they'll announce these guys (besides Simon but that's just a guess). You guys can ask me stuff but I probably won't know. But I might remember something I've forgotten if something is worded right? I dunno. He's hoping we get Rex as DLC.
>Mimikkyu
>Elma
>Shizue (Dash fighter)
>Chrom (Dash fighter)
>K Rool
>Belmondo
>Geno
>Ninten (Dash Fighter)
>Dark Samus (Dash Fighter)
>Shadow (Dash Fighter)
>Tapper
>Reimu
Nintendo Direct August 3rd
Super Smash Bros. reveal trailer
A shadowy figure flies above as a hero steps out of the darkness.
"Belmont has his stake in this!"
He follows the figure as it flies to a lofty bell tower. He climbs a spiral staircase and defeats skeletons and bats before arriving at the top. The bell sounds as he looks around. Sensing his foe: "Die monster. You don't belong in this world!" An evil laugh echoes out and the demon attacks. "Overconfidence will destroy you" Sephiroth joins the fray!

Belmont is a new design drawing inspiration from Simon, Trevor, Richtor, Juste and huh? Alucard? and has costumes to represent each of them. Sephiroth's design is based on his "One-Winged Angel" classic design but has costumes for his Advent Children and Kingdom Hearts designs.

A third character is teased. A telescope has been watching the battle unfold in the bell tower. A female giggle is heard and the telescope is flung skyward, disappearing in a STAR graphic effect.

MAY/MAY NOT BE OP

Inkling, Daisy, Ridley, Belmont, Sephiroth, Lip, Dark Samus, Isabelle, Dixie Kong, Chrom, Hades
I work in the graphics team at Bandai Namco, and am working on smash ultimate. i wont say much about where i work, as i was make to sign an agreement not to divulge any information about the new game. however, like you, I would want to know whos gonna be in the game, and who isn't. This formats probably gonna suck because I'm not used to 4chan, and I'm also not gonna explain too much about the characters, in order to try and not make my identity too prominent.
In total, there will be 8 newcomers, including Ridley and Inkling, and 6 more echoes. This may seem contradictory, but apparently Sakurai is trying to do this so that he can leave the fanbase happy while he attempts to make as many DLC characters as Nintendo allows him to. Remember, budgets are a thing.

The 6 newcomers yet to be revealed are:
King K Rool
Geno
Simon Belmont
Okami
Ashley
Heihachi

Many people I work with believe that Dixie is going to be the first DLC character, as she can take much influence from diddy and she is wanted much like mewtwo was in the development of SSB4.

Anyways, the 6 echoes are:
Chrom
Shadow
Isabelle
Hilda
Dry Bowser
Dark Samus

I cannot confirm that there will be a subspace emissary, but what i can confirm is that all the characters will be able to be unlocked in a type of classic mode, where the final boss on each run will be a new fighter that has yet to be unlocked. From what I've seen, these characters will also be able to be unlocked in other ways, such as playing multiple amounts of matches.
In terms of when these will be revealed, I don't know, but i overheard people saying that some echoes wont get trailers, rather, a couple may be revealed in a smash focused direct, and
>K. Rool is in
>Ashley is in
>Simon Belmont is in
>Decidueye is not in, the pokemon rep is Lycanroc
>Rex and Pyra are in
>Shadow is in, echo of Sonic obviously
>Isabelle is in, villager echo
>Fountain of Dreams, Yoshi's Island, and Brinstar Depths come back from Melee
>Hanenbow, Delphino, and Pirate Ship come back from Brawl
>Dream Land, Mute City, and Rainbow Road return from 3ds
>Gamer, Jungle Hijinxs, and Orbital Gate Assault are back from Wii U
>Pikmin is not getting a new stage
>F Zero is not getting a new stage either.
>Classic Mode is different from Wii U version, more similar to 3DS and Brawl/Melee
>All Star is now based on when the fighter entered smash
>Event Mode is back


>Expect a newcomer revealed in July

This is just some stuff I found interesting, I will be on here for likely a little white, might post more.
Smash Bros Ultimate
The next super smash bros game will have 10 more newcomers. Each Month 2 new fighters will be annoced each month. It seems to look like each month one fighter would be a new fighter, while the other is an echo fighter. In july we will see Excite Biker, and Chrom from Fire Embelm. August will have King Krool, and Shadow the Hedehog. Semtemper will have Crash Bandicoot and Doomguy. Doomguy or crash may be an echo fighter because each month has on echo and one new fighter. October has Isabell from animal crossing as an echo for villager, and Steve from Mincraft. November has Funky kong, most likely an echo, and Lycanroc. December had Simon Belmont and Spike from the Mario games. Release Date December 7th
A friend of mine that works for Ninthendo of American has some inside information about the charters for Super Smash Bros. Ultimate.

Decidueye will be revealed during a July Nintendo Direct Mini.

Heihachi will be revealed at EVO 2018.

Steve will be revealed at MineCon Earth 2018.

Siomon will be revealed on Halloween.

King K. Roll will be revealed During a November Nintendo Direct.

Karate Joe will be revealed on a Smash Bros direct just days before the game releases.

In the Direct, we will be told Banjo-Kazooie is in development as a DLC charter, and DLC for the game will release through out the switches life time.

Chartes not revealed before lunch are Geno, Dixie Kong, Dark Samus, Chrom, Isabel, Tails, and Shadow.
Hello. I am here from previous about my Smash codename leaks. I want to give out the full leaks, since I am frustrated of people getting them wrong.

July - King K. Rool and Dixie Kong
August - Heihachi Mishima
September - Decidueye
October - Simon Belmont and Isabelle
November - Dark Samus
December - Chorus Kids, Kat and Ana, Geno, and Ninten.

Here are also some leaks for the stages: Peach's Castle, Delfino Plaza, Brinstar Depths, and Poke Floats are going to return. G Corp Helipad, Gangplank Galleon, Dracula's Castle, Assembly Dojo, and Rhythm Heaven are going to be the new stages.
>List of new characters for Super Smash Bros Ultimate in the dataminer.

>King- Unlike many insiders say, this character is not King. K Roll. This character would be no one else but none other than Prince Noctis of Final Fantasy XV
>Ponytail - It would be Dixie Kong, an Echo Fighter by Diddy Kong
>Old Man- He would be the Heihachi character of the Tekken series
>Archer- The Archer is the Deciduey of Pokémon Sun and Moon, as many people had predicted
>Warrior - It would be the Simon Belmont of the Castlevania series (No news)
>Secretary- Is Isabell from Animal Crossing the same, as everyone had said
>Mech- It would be the Rex of Xenoblade Chronicles 2
>Rhythm- Rhythm is nothing more and nothing less than Marshall, character of the series Rythm Heaven.
>Folklore- Musashi, protagonist of Sushi Strike: The Way of Sushido is Folklore.
>Doll- It would be the Geno from Super Mario RPG: The Legend of Seven Stars
>Prime Ribs- This character is Ninten from the Mother series, he will be an Echo Fighter from Nes.
>Rainbow - He is Captain Rainbow, who will be an Echo Fighter from Captain Falcon.

>Surprise character - Toadette, she is not a playable character, however, she appears in a random action and will present herself as a file already unlocked or not in a random attempt in her fight. It will appear more in online games, however it can appear even in other modes how All-Stars Mode for example.
Hello everyone. I work as one of many translators for Super Smash Bros. Ultimate for the U.S. I don’t know everything about the game, but my fellow co-workers shared me some information regarding the upcoming game.
*66 K. K. Rool and 67 Dixie Kong are in the game. Both will be revealed in July this month in an upcoming direct. Dixie is a semi-clone with her hairspin techs, gum ball popgun, guitar, etc.
*68 Heihachi will be revealed at EVO and will be playable at the EVO build of the game.
{There will be an exhibition match with Heihachi and Ryu.}
*69 Geno From Super MARIO RPG
{There is a 3D model of Mallow (Final smash? Assist?}
*70 Amaterasu from Okami
{Uses black paint smash attacks}
*71 Ninten from Earthbound Beginnings
{PK fire variant that meteor smash opponents in air. PK beam standard B}
*72 Bandana Waddle Dee from Kirby
{Uses spear attacks and a parisol similar to Peach and DAISY}
*73 Ashley from WarioWare
{No info N/A}
*74 Decidueye from Pokémon
{Moveset inspired by Pokken Tournament and uses sinister arrow raid as Final Smash. Long Range attacker}
*16’ Impa
{No info N/A}
*45’ Isabelle
{Isabelle’s tree always spawns fruits. Different Color butterfly net, Lloid rocket stays horizontal, Faster than Villager}
*New stages I know so far:
^New Donk City
^The Oddysey {Stage that travels around ^different SMO Worlds}
^Gangplank Galleon
^R.O.B Famicon
^Ashley’s Mansion
^Dragon’s Nest {Tekken 7}
^Melemele Island (Iki Town)
*Returning stages I know so far:
^Peach’s Castle (64)
^Congo Jungle (64)
^Jungle Hyjinx
^Icicle Mountain
^Fountain of Dreams
^Dreamland
^Pirate Ship
^Mario Bros.
^Big Battle Field
^Gamer
^Rainbow Road
^Paper Mario
^Wooly World
*New Modes:
Boss Rush
SSE type of story mode with full cutscenes
All previous modes including Smash Run, Smash Tour, Tournaments, Spectating, etc. returns


Either he deleted it or the mods took it down like they took down ChaosZero's leak threads during the Brawl era. I imagine we'll hear what happened from him soon.
Wow, how do you stay sane keeping this on top of leaks? Mad props.
 

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Anything new in the leaks, or do we need a new leak session for that?

(Watch as all of them immediately piggyback each other and add Isabelle)
 

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With July almost over we can expect all the July newcomer leaks to die a cold, painful death.
But a new month brings new problems.
AUGUST LEAKS.
 

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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/76848606

Click the link. It used to link to the Vergeben thread and now it's gone.
Suspicious.

Could he have been caught or was he wrong?
I'm betting the former. The threads regarding Ridley, Ice Climbers and the unconfirmed Simon Belmont are still up and if they get taken down, I have the archive that we can access. Yet almost as soon as he puts up the Isabelle thread, it gets taken down. Something tells me Nintendo ninjas are at work and found out that someone is leaking information to DasVergeben which he leaks to us.
 

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Alright, here's every supposed leak that I have documented containing both Simon and Isabelle. There's a total of 18 that I'm splitting between two sessions, one for "leaks" that will live past July, and one for "leaks" that don't.
My source worked at Bandai Namco and was on the former balancing team for patches 1.0.6 to 1.1.7 which is now a core part of Sakurai's main team. The old team reverted many of their past changes and are adding new changes in their place, but it's not bad, expect characters like Sheik and Diddy to feel stronger in some ways and weaker in others. Sakurai is taking a bigger personal role in balancing the game instead of just overseeing everything, much more like he did in Brawl and Melee, he is very interested in learning about the competitive scene recently. Bayonetta is indeed getting additional nerfs, mostly adding more lag to her specials if she misses (Witch Time, Witch Twist), and reducing kill power of Up air. Most characters are getting buffed or nerfed as you'd expect, although strangely, Yoshi is getting nerfed overall, Sakurai felt he was too strong on For Glory. Diddy Kong is getting buffed, my source and friends tried stopping it but Sakurai doesn't get why Diddy is good as is and thinks he needs more power.
Post questions about characters and I'll try to answer them individually.

Also, here are your Newcomers:
>Simon
>Steve
>Tails (Sonic Echo)
>Geno
>Isabelle (Villager Echo)
>King K. Rool

And yes, Sakurai has heard about Waluigi but he will not be in the base game, DLC is still up in the air.
Newcomer Hints: Whip, Pic Related, Witch, Sliced Apple, Anime, Archer, House, Science, Cards.

Echo Hints: Prime, Edgy, Dog, Asthma, Blue Hair.

Assist Hints: Lego, Merchant Egg, Octopus, Divine, Dad, Pig.

Bayonetta Hint: Something was on purpose and rigged for victory. The ballot, the viability, one of those is correct, one of those is false.

Source: Someone you're all well aware of.

This is the leak that got the "Ballot was rigged" claim correct before the news broke.
*waves*

It's me, Peach! Today I have some exquisite information for all of you regarding the new Smash Bros. game on Nintendo Switch.

There's just six more full fighters.

Personally, I am most excited that my personal assistant Toad will be joining the battle as Captain Toad. I've already made a cake for the occasion! In Smash Ultimate, Captain Toad cannot jump, but has several moves that work as strong recovery options, notably his minecart and the propeller box from 3D World.

The second is Ashley from Diamond City. I don't know a lot about her but supposedly she is one of Wario's friends. Her demon Red supports her, turning into various objects for many of her attacks.

Thirdly, we have King K. Rool. I've heard he's about the same weight as Bowser, which is quite scary! Like Ashley for Japan, he was chosen to appeal to the western audiences.

I can also confirm we have a newcomer from our friends over at the Konami Kingdom, Simon Belmont.

Also joining the battle is Bandanna Waddle Dee! He's such a cutey, isn't he? He fights with his spear similarly to his recent appearances in Star Allies and Return to Dreamland.

The final new roster addition is... an odd man. He's a very blocky fellow who calls himself Steve. I'm quite surprised at his physique, but supposedly he is a master of adapting to different situations, able to quickly create items during the battle.

Each fighter comes with their own stage, too!

Captain Toad - Battle Tower Blitz
Ashley - Diamond City
King K. Rool - Gangplank Galleon
Simon Belmont - Dracula's Castle
Bandanna Waddle Dee - Dream Palace
Steve - New World (works sort of like the Mario Maker stage!)

Teehee! I wouldn't just leave you all with only this, so here's some of those Echo fighters! Eeeee! I'm so excited my pal Daisy is my Echo fighter!

4e - Dark Samus
18e - Dr. Luigi (this one has me quite surprised!)
32e - Chrom
45e - Isabelle

Also, Robin's new final smash turns them into a possessed version of themself! Spooky D:
>Lycanroc Dusk is the pokemon newcomer, its final smash has it use it's z move with the other two. Mimikyu and Decidueye are not playable, there is no other pokemon newcomer
>Banjo Kazooie is a newcomer, they shoot eggs, have a wonder wing move, and their final smash is jjinjonator, Minecraft gets a stage
>Ashley is a newcomer, spell moveset, final smash is a big spell.
>K Rool is a newcomer, uses gadgets and tricks, final smash is the blast o matic
>9 Unique newcomers, 5 echos
>Dixie Kong Isabelle and Shadow are echos
>Bandana Dee is not playable
>Shovel Knight is not playable
>Shantae is not playable
>Chrom is still Robin's final smash
>Captain Toad is not playable
>There is no fire emblem newcomer
>Dephino, Jungle Hijinx, Yoshi's Island Melee, Rainbow Road, Paper Mario, Dream Land 3ds, Pirate Ship, Peach's 64, Kongo 64, Pictochat, Mute City 3ds, and Orbital Gate return
>Miiverse, Sector Z, Planet Zebes, Poke Floats, Pictochat 2, and Golden Plains do not return
>SR388, Fortuna, Neo Los Angeles, and Frosty Fruits are new stages
>Qbby from Boxboy is an assist trophy
>Chibi Robo is an assist trophy
>Ravio is an assist trophy
>Chun Li is an assist trophy
>Sephiroth is an assist trophy
>Salazzle is a new pokeball
>Alolan Exeggutor is a new pokeball
>Popplio is a new pokeball pokemon
I have some Information regarding the upcoming super smash bros ultimate for Nintendo switch.

The remaining newcomers are-
King k rool
Geno
Simon belmont
Tails (Similar to sonic, not quite an echo though)
Isabelle (Similar situation to tails)

Springman and rex/pyra are in the planning stages and will be DLC, a few others are being considered. A 7th gen pokemon is almost definitely going to happen, but which one hasn't been decided yet.

Might be dead for claiming DLC is being planned, but I'll let it live as DLC isn't being developed, but just planned.
Hey guys I just go off work from Nintendo and thought I would like to talk about something I found out when walking by on the development of the new Super Smash Bros. game.

Based on what I saw when the roster was loaded, the following newcomers seem to be added to the game:
- Dixie Kong
- Heihachi
- Elma
- Simon
- Steve
- Karate Joe
- Arle
- Issac
- Tiki

With these guys as Echo Fighters:
- Ken
- Shadow
- Isabelle
- Dr. Luigi
- Chrom
- Richter

These characters however are becoming Assist Trophies:
- K. Rool
- Geno
- Banjo-Kazooie
- Creeper
- Susie
- Draco
- Anna
- Alucard
- President Lincoln (from Codename S.T.E.A.M.)
- Zero
- Nightmare
- Klonoa

These stages I found are returning from the previous entries:
- Fountain of Dreams
- Meta Crystal
- Hanenbow
- Poké Floats
- Mario Bros.
- Pac-Maze
- Mushroom Kingdom (64)
- Mute City (3DS)
- Planet Zebes

These stages will be added as brand new stages:
- Dracula's Castle
- Minecraft
- Spring Stadium
- A stage based on Tekken
- Alola Region
- Primp Town
- Forest Maze
- Magikarp Festival
- Sky Skipper
- Sonic Mania
- Park Avenue
- Planet Robobot

I didn't have time to dive deep into what all of these do and how you unlock them, but I hope this gets you excited for the game!
So yesterday, me and two other raters at the ESRB were given access to a video "presentation" of Smash Ultimate. Unfortunately for job security I was unable to get any photo or video evidence of what I saw, but you can choose to listen to me or not.
First off, I was told that development is mostly finished now, with the exception of bug testing and tweaking. The ESRB takes leaks very seriously (especially after the last game), so I will be brief.
There were 6 new characters I saw.
Banjo Kazooie was in one of the battles. It was like some sort of adventure mode but it was multiplayer competitive. Banjo had an attack involving Kazooie pooping out eggs. (We have to mark off things like that).
I also saw Simon Belmont, who was fighting against Bowser, Snake, and Louie. Simon used his whip in a lot of his attacks, as well as Castlevania weapons like the Cross throw and Potion.
There was another character who I missed the name of who had purple hair. She was only shown off during a montage of gameplay modes.
I saw Isabelle from Animal Crossing show up, but she used all the same moves as Villager, just "dantier" I guess.
They had someone named Masked Man (not sure what game he's from, maybe Earthbound). He had a sword and used lightning attacks.
Finally I saw Paper Mario in a mode where you work with Master Hand for prizes. He uses his partners from the N64 game and throws Stickers.
I'll answer any questions you guys have but namely I was not shown a picture of the full roster. I saw a select screen that was incomplete and only had a few characters.
ACTUAL Smash Leaks

Don't get your hopes up too high, guys. I have no idea about DLC but this is just for launch.

Simon is getting in. My guess is that they're announcing it when they announce the rumored (but obviously real) Castlevaina compilation. My guess is it will be around the launch of season 2 on Netflix. This is all just a guess, though.

And that is the only new character. There are others but they're just echo fighters. Thankfully none of them are Fire Emblem.

Classic Sonic is an echo fighter of Sonic. I have no idea how he plays. I'm just reading these off a list. My guess is maybe he has tighter controls if they want to really represent Classic Sonic. He's referred to as 'Classic Sonic' in documentation so I assume that's how he's referred to in-game, as well. I'm actually a little excited for this one.

Isabella is an echo fighter for villager. Don't even have a guess what the differences could be.

Ms. Pac-Man is another echo fighter. Same with Isabella. No idea how she'll be different.

The most disappointing echo fighter on the list is Dixie. She deserves her own moveset. ****ing sucks.

And finally, Octoling. Not a surprise.

That's all I know. No idea about ATs or anything else or even when they'll announce these guys (besides Simon but that's just a guess). You guys can ask me stuff but I probably won't know. But I might remember something I've forgotten if something is worded right? I dunno. He's hoping we get Rex as DLC.
>Mimikkyu
>Elma
>Shizue (Dash fighter)
>Chrom (Dash fighter)
>K Rool
>Belmondo
>Geno
>Ninten (Dash Fighter)
>Dark Samus (Dash Fighter)
>Shadow (Dash Fighter)
>Tapper
>Reimu
Nintendo Direct August 3rd
Super Smash Bros. reveal trailer
A shadowy figure flies above as a hero steps out of the darkness.
"Belmont has his stake in this!"
He follows the figure as it flies to a lofty bell tower. He climbs a spiral staircase and defeats skeletons and bats before arriving at the top. The bell sounds as he looks around. Sensing his foe: "Die monster. You don't belong in this world!" An evil laugh echoes out and the demon attacks. "Overconfidence will destroy you" Sephiroth joins the fray!

Belmont is a new design drawing inspiration from Simon, Trevor, Richtor, Juste and huh? Alucard? and has costumes to represent each of them. Sephiroth's design is based on his "One-Winged Angel" classic design but has costumes for his Advent Children and Kingdom Hearts designs.

A third character is teased. A telescope has been watching the battle unfold in the bell tower. A female giggle is heard and the telescope is flung skyward, disappearing in a STAR graphic effect.

MAY/MAY NOT BE OP

Inkling, Daisy, Ridley, Belmont, Sephiroth, Lip, Dark Samus, Isabelle, Dixie Kong, Chrom, Hades
I work in the graphics team at Bandai Namco, and am working on smash ultimate. i wont say much about where i work, as i was make to sign an agreement not to divulge any information about the new game. however, like you, I would want to know whos gonna be in the game, and who isn't. This formats probably gonna suck because I'm not used to 4chan, and I'm also not gonna explain too much about the characters, in order to try and not make my identity too prominent.
In total, there will be 8 newcomers, including Ridley and Inkling, and 6 more echoes. This may seem contradictory, but apparently Sakurai is trying to do this so that he can leave the fanbase happy while he attempts to make as many DLC characters as Nintendo allows him to. Remember, budgets are a thing.

The 6 newcomers yet to be revealed are:
King K Rool
Geno
Simon Belmont
Okami
Ashley
Heihachi

Many people I work with believe that Dixie is going to be the first DLC character, as she can take much influence from diddy and she is wanted much like mewtwo was in the development of SSB4.

Anyways, the 6 echoes are:
Chrom
Shadow
Isabelle
Hilda
Dry Bowser
Dark Samus

I cannot confirm that there will be a subspace emissary, but what i can confirm is that all the characters will be able to be unlocked in a type of classic mode, where the final boss on each run will be a new fighter that has yet to be unlocked. From what I've seen, these characters will also be able to be unlocked in other ways, such as playing multiple amounts of matches.
In terms of when these will be revealed, I don't know, but i overheard people saying that some echoes wont get trailers, rather, a couple may be revealed in a smash focused direct, and
>K. Rool is in
>Ashley is in
>Simon Belmont is in
>Decidueye is not in, the pokemon rep is Lycanroc
>Rex and Pyra are in
>Shadow is in, echo of Sonic obviously
>Isabelle is in, villager echo
>Fountain of Dreams, Yoshi's Island, and Brinstar Depths come back from Melee
>Hanenbow, Delphino, and Pirate Ship come back from Brawl
>Dream Land, Mute City, and Rainbow Road return from 3ds
>Gamer, Jungle Hijinxs, and Orbital Gate Assault are back from Wii U
>Pikmin is not getting a new stage
>F Zero is not getting a new stage either.
>Classic Mode is different from Wii U version, more similar to 3DS and Brawl/Melee
>All Star is now based on when the fighter entered smash
>Event Mode is back


>Expect a newcomer revealed in July

This is just some stuff I found interesting, I will be on here for likely a little white, might post more.
Smash Bros Ultimate
The next super smash bros game will have 10 more newcomers. Each Month 2 new fighters will be annoced each month. It seems to look like each month one fighter would be a new fighter, while the other is an echo fighter. In july we will see Excite Biker, and Chrom from Fire Embelm. August will have King Krool, and Shadow the Hedehog. Semtemper will have Crash Bandicoot and Doomguy. Doomguy or crash may be an echo fighter because each month has on echo and one new fighter. October has Isabell from animal crossing as an echo for villager, and Steve from Mincraft. November has Funky kong, most likely an echo, and Lycanroc. December had Simon Belmont and Spike from the Mario games. Release Date December 7th
A friend of mine that works for Ninthendo of American has some inside information about the charters for Super Smash Bros. Ultimate.

Decidueye will be revealed during a July Nintendo Direct Mini.

Heihachi will be revealed at EVO 2018.

Steve will be revealed at MineCon Earth 2018.

Siomon will be revealed on Halloween.

King K. Roll will be revealed During a November Nintendo Direct.

Karate Joe will be revealed on a Smash Bros direct just days before the game releases.

In the Direct, we will be told Banjo-Kazooie is in development as a DLC charter, and DLC for the game will release through out the switches life time.

Chartes not revealed before lunch are Geno, Dixie Kong, Dark Samus, Chrom, Isabel, Tails, and Shadow.
Hello. I am here from previous about my Smash codename leaks. I want to give out the full leaks, since I am frustrated of people getting them wrong.

July - King K. Rool and Dixie Kong
August - Heihachi Mishima
September - Decidueye
October - Simon Belmont and Isabelle
November - Dark Samus
December - Chorus Kids, Kat and Ana, Geno, and Ninten.

Here are also some leaks for the stages: Peach's Castle, Delfino Plaza, Brinstar Depths, and Poke Floats are going to return. G Corp Helipad, Gangplank Galleon, Dracula's Castle, Assembly Dojo, and Rhythm Heaven are going to be the new stages.
>List of new characters for Super Smash Bros Ultimate in the dataminer.

>King- Unlike many insiders say, this character is not King. K Roll. This character would be no one else but none other than Prince Noctis of Final Fantasy XV
>Ponytail - It would be Dixie Kong, an Echo Fighter by Diddy Kong
>Old Man- He would be the Heihachi character of the Tekken series
>Archer- The Archer is the Deciduey of Pokémon Sun and Moon, as many people had predicted
>Warrior - It would be the Simon Belmont of the Castlevania series (No news)
>Secretary- Is Isabell from Animal Crossing the same, as everyone had said
>Mech- It would be the Rex of Xenoblade Chronicles 2
>Rhythm- Rhythm is nothing more and nothing less than Marshall, character of the series Rythm Heaven.
>Folklore- Musashi, protagonist of Sushi Strike: The Way of Sushido is Folklore.
>Doll- It would be the Geno from Super Mario RPG: The Legend of Seven Stars
>Prime Ribs- This character is Ninten from the Mother series, he will be an Echo Fighter from Nes.
>Rainbow - He is Captain Rainbow, who will be an Echo Fighter from Captain Falcon.

>Surprise character - Toadette, she is not a playable character, however, she appears in a random action and will present herself as a file already unlocked or not in a random attempt in her fight. It will appear more in online games, however it can appear even in other modes how All-Stars Mode for example.
Hello everyone. I work as one of many translators for Super Smash Bros. Ultimate for the U.S. I don’t know everything about the game, but my fellow co-workers shared me some information regarding the upcoming game.
*66 K. K. Rool and 67 Dixie Kong are in the game. Both will be revealed in July this month in an upcoming direct. Dixie is a semi-clone with her hairspin techs, gum ball popgun, guitar, etc.
*68 Heihachi will be revealed at EVO and will be playable at the EVO build of the game.
{There will be an exhibition match with Heihachi and Ryu.}
*69 Geno From Super MARIO RPG
{There is a 3D model of Mallow (Final smash? Assist?}
*70 Amaterasu from Okami
{Uses black paint smash attacks}
*71 Ninten from Earthbound Beginnings
{PK fire variant that meteor smash opponents in air. PK beam standard B}
*72 Bandana Waddle Dee from Kirby
{Uses spear attacks and a parisol similar to Peach and DAISY}
*73 Ashley from WarioWare
{No info N/A}
*74 Decidueye from Pokémon
{Moveset inspired by Pokken Tournament and uses sinister arrow raid as Final Smash. Long Range attacker}
*16’ Impa
{No info N/A}
*45’ Isabelle
{Isabelle’s tree always spawns fruits. Different Color butterfly net, Lloid rocket stays horizontal, Faster than Villager}
*New stages I know so far:
^New Donk City
^The Oddysey {Stage that travels around ^different SMO Worlds}
^Gangplank Galleon
^R.O.B Famicon
^Ashley’s Mansion
^Dragon’s Nest {Tekken 7}
^Melemele Island (Iki Town)
*Returning stages I know so far:
^Peach’s Castle (64)
^Congo Jungle (64)
^Jungle Hyjinx
^Icicle Mountain
^Fountain of Dreams
^Dreamland
^Pirate Ship
^Mario Bros.
^Big Battle Field
^Gamer
^Rainbow Road
^Paper Mario
^Wooly World
*New Modes:
Boss Rush
SSE type of story mode with full cutscenes
All previous modes including Smash Run, Smash Tour, Tournaments, Spectating, etc. returns


Either he deleted it or the mods took it down like they took down ChaosZero's leak threads during the Brawl era. I imagine we'll hear what happened from him soon.
So out of morbid curiosity I searched fireden for leaks from before today that included both portions of Isabelmont, and HOO BOY.

There's one from Wednesday that isn't on your list that has both. And more importantly for me it also has Celica. Still probably fake though.
 

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I want this to be Isabelle's trailer

-Villager planting some flowers
-Isabelle arrives to assist her Mayor
-Wario with his bike shows up and runs over the plants
-Villager is sad and Isabelle is upset
-Isabelle demands Wario to apologize to the Villager or else she'll hit Wario
-Wario laughs hysterically
-Wario pushes Isabelle
-Isabelle is fuming
-Isabelle approaches Wario and suddenly performs a Shin Shoryuken
-ISABELLE RESTORES ORDER
-Isabelle is semi-clone of Ryu
-She has all of Ryu's moves but all her properties are unique to her
-Instead of Shinku Hadoken, Isabelle takes out a beehive and throws it at whatever direction she is facing
-Trailer ends with Isabelle apologizing to Wario as she helps patch him up
 

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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/76848606

Click the link. It used to link to the Vergeben thread and now it's gone.
I'm betting the former. The threads regarding Ridley, Ice Climbers and the unconfirmed Simon Belmont are still up and if they get taken down, I have the archive that we can access. Yet almost as soon as he puts up the Isabelle thread, it gets taken down. Something tells me Nintendo ninjas are at work and found out that someone is leaking information to DasVergeben which he leaks to us.
Or he was wrong to trust a source and backpedaled. ...Again.

I wouldn't put any stock into this due to Verg's past records. Other leakers, sure, but him? It's beyond easy for him to delete it himself to make it look better. He has a history of lying/editing stuff in/etc. that this is not a sign of anything.

Vergeben's thread can only be deleted by the mods. So it probably got marked for trolling.
Or that.
 

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I want this to be Isabelle's trailer

-Villager planting some flowers
-Isabelle arrives to assist her Mayor
-Wario with his bike shows up and runs over the plants
-Villager is sad and Isabelle is upset
-Isabelle demands Wario to apologize to the Villager or else she'll hit Wario
-Wario laughs hysterically
-Wario pushes Isabelle
-Isabelle is fuming
-Isabelle approaches Wario and suddenly performs a Shin Shoryuken
-ISABELLE RESTORES ORDER
-Isabelle is semi-clone of Ryu
-She has all of Ryu's moves but all her properties are unique to her
-Instead of Shinku Hadoken, Isabelle takes out a beehive and throws it at whatever direction she is facing
-Trailer ends with Isabelle apologizing to Wario as she helps patch him up
This is one of the best things I've ever read.
 

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If Vergeben's thread was deleted by a third party in order to suppress the information, then whoever deleted it just made a silly mistake, it's only going to make more people notice it.
 

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Or he was wrong to trust a source and backpedaled. ...Again.

I wouldn't put any stock into this due to Verg's past records. Other leakers, sure, but him? It's beyond easy for him to delete it himself to make it look better. He has a history of lying/editing stuff in/etc. that this is not a sign of anything.


Or that.
You cannot delete your own threads on GFAQs. Only exception is if nobody posts in the thread. The only way for a thread to be deleted is through the mods.
 

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Since we're talking music, here's a few that I'd want. A kind of sort of top 10, but without Central Highway since I don't think we'll get Mega Man music outside the OG series. Though I'd like to be wrong about that.

1. Napalm Man (Mega Man 5) Probably my favorite track from that game.


2. Opening Stage (Mega Man 7) Best track in MM7, which is saying a lot.


3. Mega Man 3 Main Theme It's too strong.


4. Magalor Part 1 (Kirby Return to Dream Land)


5. Dark Samus theme (Metroid Prime 2: Echoes)


6. Rundas theme (Metroid Prime 3: Corruption)


7. Unova Elite 4 (Pokemon Black and White)


8. Red/Lance theme (Pokemon Gold and Silver)


9. Final Boss(Yoshi's Island)


10. Jazzy NYC (Street Fighter 3: Third Strike)

 

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You cannot delete your own threads on GFAQs. Only exception is if nobody posts in the thread. The only way for a thread to be deleted is through the mods.
No, but you can report them. The problem is, he's such a backpedaler and liar he can do this himself to make it "look good". It's not honestly worth trusting due to his own history.

Many leakers, sure, it wouldn't matter. It might even boost their credibility. Verg? Does the opposite. His behavior is terrible.
 

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Alright, here's every supposed leak that I have documented containing both Simon and Isabelle. There's a total of 18 that I'm splitting between two sessions, one for "leaks" that will live past July, and one for "leaks" that don't.
My source worked at Bandai Namco and was on the former balancing team for patches 1.0.6 to 1.1.7 which is now a core part of Sakurai's main team. The old team reverted many of their past changes and are adding new changes in their place, but it's not bad, expect characters like Sheik and Diddy to feel stronger in some ways and weaker in others. Sakurai is taking a bigger personal role in balancing the game instead of just overseeing everything, much more like he did in Brawl and Melee, he is very interested in learning about the competitive scene recently. Bayonetta is indeed getting additional nerfs, mostly adding more lag to her specials if she misses (Witch Time, Witch Twist), and reducing kill power of Up air. Most characters are getting buffed or nerfed as you'd expect, although strangely, Yoshi is getting nerfed overall, Sakurai felt he was too strong on For Glory. Diddy Kong is getting buffed, my source and friends tried stopping it but Sakurai doesn't get why Diddy is good as is and thinks he needs more power.
Post questions about characters and I'll try to answer them individually.

Also, here are your Newcomers:
>Simon
>Steve
>Tails (Sonic Echo)
>Geno
>Isabelle (Villager Echo)
>King K. Rool

And yes, Sakurai has heard about Waluigi but he will not be in the base game, DLC is still up in the air.
Newcomer Hints: Whip, Pic Related, Witch, Sliced Apple, Anime, Archer, House, Science, Cards.

Echo Hints: Prime, Edgy, Dog, Asthma, Blue Hair.

Assist Hints: Lego, Merchant Egg, Octopus, Divine, Dad, Pig.

Bayonetta Hint: Something was on purpose and rigged for victory. The ballot, the viability, one of those is correct, one of those is false.

Source: Someone you're all well aware of.

This is the leak that got the "Ballot was rigged" claim correct before the news broke.
*waves*

It's me, Peach! Today I have some exquisite information for all of you regarding the new Smash Bros. game on Nintendo Switch.

There's just six more full fighters.

Personally, I am most excited that my personal assistant Toad will be joining the battle as Captain Toad. I've already made a cake for the occasion! In Smash Ultimate, Captain Toad cannot jump, but has several moves that work as strong recovery options, notably his minecart and the propeller box from 3D World.

The second is Ashley from Diamond City. I don't know a lot about her but supposedly she is one of Wario's friends. Her demon Red supports her, turning into various objects for many of her attacks.

Thirdly, we have King K. Rool. I've heard he's about the same weight as Bowser, which is quite scary! Like Ashley for Japan, he was chosen to appeal to the western audiences.

I can also confirm we have a newcomer from our friends over at the Konami Kingdom, Simon Belmont.

Also joining the battle is Bandanna Waddle Dee! He's such a cutey, isn't he? He fights with his spear similarly to his recent appearances in Star Allies and Return to Dreamland.

The final new roster addition is... an odd man. He's a very blocky fellow who calls himself Steve. I'm quite surprised at his physique, but supposedly he is a master of adapting to different situations, able to quickly create items during the battle.

Each fighter comes with their own stage, too!

Captain Toad - Battle Tower Blitz
Ashley - Diamond City
King K. Rool - Gangplank Galleon
Simon Belmont - Dracula's Castle
Bandanna Waddle Dee - Dream Palace
Steve - New World (works sort of like the Mario Maker stage!)

Teehee! I wouldn't just leave you all with only this, so here's some of those Echo fighters! Eeeee! I'm so excited my pal Daisy is my Echo fighter!

4e - Dark Samus
18e - Dr. Luigi (this one has me quite surprised!)
32e - Chrom
45e - Isabelle

Also, Robin's new final smash turns them into a possessed version of themself! Spooky D:
>Lycanroc Dusk is the pokemon newcomer, its final smash has it use it's z move with the other two. Mimikyu and Decidueye are not playable, there is no other pokemon newcomer
>Banjo Kazooie is a newcomer, they shoot eggs, have a wonder wing move, and their final smash is jjinjonator, Minecraft gets a stage
>Ashley is a newcomer, spell moveset, final smash is a big spell.
>K Rool is a newcomer, uses gadgets and tricks, final smash is the blast o matic
>9 Unique newcomers, 5 echos
>Dixie Kong Isabelle and Shadow are echos
>Bandana Dee is not playable
>Shovel Knight is not playable
>Shantae is not playable
>Chrom is still Robin's final smash
>Captain Toad is not playable
>There is no fire emblem newcomer
>Dephino, Jungle Hijinx, Yoshi's Island Melee, Rainbow Road, Paper Mario, Dream Land 3ds, Pirate Ship, Peach's 64, Kongo 64, Pictochat, Mute City 3ds, and Orbital Gate return
>Miiverse, Sector Z, Planet Zebes, Poke Floats, Pictochat 2, and Golden Plains do not return
>SR388, Fortuna, Neo Los Angeles, and Frosty Fruits are new stages
>Qbby from Boxboy is an assist trophy
>Chibi Robo is an assist trophy
>Ravio is an assist trophy
>Chun Li is an assist trophy
>Sephiroth is an assist trophy
>Salazzle is a new pokeball
>Alolan Exeggutor is a new pokeball
>Popplio is a new pokeball pokemon
I have some Information regarding the upcoming super smash bros ultimate for Nintendo switch.

The remaining newcomers are-
King k rool
Geno
Simon belmont
Tails (Similar to sonic, not quite an echo though)
Isabelle (Similar situation to tails)

Springman and rex/pyra are in the planning stages and will be DLC, a few others are being considered. A 7th gen pokemon is almost definitely going to happen, but which one hasn't been decided yet.

Might be dead for claiming DLC is being planned, but I'll let it live as DLC isn't being developed, but just planned.
Hey guys I just go off work from Nintendo and thought I would like to talk about something I found out when walking by on the development of the new Super Smash Bros. game.

Based on what I saw when the roster was loaded, the following newcomers seem to be added to the game:
- Dixie Kong
- Heihachi
- Elma
- Simon
- Steve
- Karate Joe
- Arle
- Issac
- Tiki

With these guys as Echo Fighters:
- Ken
- Shadow
- Isabelle
- Dr. Luigi
- Chrom
- Richter

These characters however are becoming Assist Trophies:
- K. Rool
- Geno
- Banjo-Kazooie
- Creeper
- Susie
- Draco
- Anna
- Alucard
- President Lincoln (from Codename S.T.E.A.M.)
- Zero
- Nightmare
- Klonoa

These stages I found are returning from the previous entries:
- Fountain of Dreams
- Meta Crystal
- Hanenbow
- Poké Floats
- Mario Bros.
- Pac-Maze
- Mushroom Kingdom (64)
- Mute City (3DS)
- Planet Zebes

These stages will be added as brand new stages:
- Dracula's Castle
- Minecraft
- Spring Stadium
- A stage based on Tekken
- Alola Region
- Primp Town
- Forest Maze
- Magikarp Festival
- Sky Skipper
- Sonic Mania
- Park Avenue
- Planet Robobot

I didn't have time to dive deep into what all of these do and how you unlock them, but I hope this gets you excited for the game!
So yesterday, me and two other raters at the ESRB were given access to a video "presentation" of Smash Ultimate. Unfortunately for job security I was unable to get any photo or video evidence of what I saw, but you can choose to listen to me or not.
First off, I was told that development is mostly finished now, with the exception of bug testing and tweaking. The ESRB takes leaks very seriously (especially after the last game), so I will be brief.
There were 6 new characters I saw.
Banjo Kazooie was in one of the battles. It was like some sort of adventure mode but it was multiplayer competitive. Banjo had an attack involving Kazooie pooping out eggs. (We have to mark off things like that).
I also saw Simon Belmont, who was fighting against Bowser, Snake, and Louie. Simon used his whip in a lot of his attacks, as well as Castlevania weapons like the Cross throw and Potion.
There was another character who I missed the name of who had purple hair. She was only shown off during a montage of gameplay modes.
I saw Isabelle from Animal Crossing show up, but she used all the same moves as Villager, just "dantier" I guess.
They had someone named Masked Man (not sure what game he's from, maybe Earthbound). He had a sword and used lightning attacks.
Finally I saw Paper Mario in a mode where you work with Master Hand for prizes. He uses his partners from the N64 game and throws Stickers.
I'll answer any questions you guys have but namely I was not shown a picture of the full roster. I saw a select screen that was incomplete and only had a few characters.
ACTUAL Smash Leaks

Don't get your hopes up too high, guys. I have no idea about DLC but this is just for launch.

Simon is getting in. My guess is that they're announcing it when they announce the rumored (but obviously real) Castlevaina compilation. My guess is it will be around the launch of season 2 on Netflix. This is all just a guess, though.

And that is the only new character. There are others but they're just echo fighters. Thankfully none of them are Fire Emblem.

Classic Sonic is an echo fighter of Sonic. I have no idea how he plays. I'm just reading these off a list. My guess is maybe he has tighter controls if they want to really represent Classic Sonic. He's referred to as 'Classic Sonic' in documentation so I assume that's how he's referred to in-game, as well. I'm actually a little excited for this one.

Isabella is an echo fighter for villager. Don't even have a guess what the differences could be.

Ms. Pac-Man is another echo fighter. Same with Isabella. No idea how she'll be different.

The most disappointing echo fighter on the list is Dixie. She deserves her own moveset. ****ing sucks.

And finally, Octoling. Not a surprise.

That's all I know. No idea about ATs or anything else or even when they'll announce these guys (besides Simon but that's just a guess). You guys can ask me stuff but I probably won't know. But I might remember something I've forgotten if something is worded right? I dunno. He's hoping we get Rex as DLC.
>Mimikkyu
>Elma
>Shizue (Dash fighter)
>Chrom (Dash fighter)
>K Rool
>Belmondo
>Geno
>Ninten (Dash Fighter)
>Dark Samus (Dash Fighter)
>Shadow (Dash Fighter)
>Tapper
>Reimu
Nintendo Direct August 3rd
Super Smash Bros. reveal trailer
A shadowy figure flies above as a hero steps out of the darkness.
"Belmont has his stake in this!"
He follows the figure as it flies to a lofty bell tower. He climbs a spiral staircase and defeats skeletons and bats before arriving at the top. The bell sounds as he looks around. Sensing his foe: "Die monster. You don't belong in this world!" An evil laugh echoes out and the demon attacks. "Overconfidence will destroy you" Sephiroth joins the fray!

Belmont is a new design drawing inspiration from Simon, Trevor, Richtor, Juste and huh? Alucard? and has costumes to represent each of them. Sephiroth's design is based on his "One-Winged Angel" classic design but has costumes for his Advent Children and Kingdom Hearts designs.

A third character is teased. A telescope has been watching the battle unfold in the bell tower. A female giggle is heard and the telescope is flung skyward, disappearing in a STAR graphic effect.

MAY/MAY NOT BE OP

Inkling, Daisy, Ridley, Belmont, Sephiroth, Lip, Dark Samus, Isabelle, Dixie Kong, Chrom, Hades
I work in the graphics team at Bandai Namco, and am working on smash ultimate. i wont say much about where i work, as i was make to sign an agreement not to divulge any information about the new game. however, like you, I would want to know whos gonna be in the game, and who isn't. This formats probably gonna suck because I'm not used to 4chan, and I'm also not gonna explain too much about the characters, in order to try and not make my identity too prominent.
In total, there will be 8 newcomers, including Ridley and Inkling, and 6 more echoes. This may seem contradictory, but apparently Sakurai is trying to do this so that he can leave the fanbase happy while he attempts to make as many DLC characters as Nintendo allows him to. Remember, budgets are a thing.

The 6 newcomers yet to be revealed are:
King K Rool
Geno
Simon Belmont
Okami
Ashley
Heihachi

Many people I work with believe that Dixie is going to be the first DLC character, as she can take much influence from diddy and she is wanted much like mewtwo was in the development of SSB4.

Anyways, the 6 echoes are:
Chrom
Shadow
Isabelle
Hilda
Dry Bowser
Dark Samus

I cannot confirm that there will be a subspace emissary, but what i can confirm is that all the characters will be able to be unlocked in a type of classic mode, where the final boss on each run will be a new fighter that has yet to be unlocked. From what I've seen, these characters will also be able to be unlocked in other ways, such as playing multiple amounts of matches.
In terms of when these will be revealed, I don't know, but i overheard people saying that some echoes wont get trailers, rather, a couple may be revealed in a smash focused direct, and
>K. Rool is in
>Ashley is in
>Simon Belmont is in
>Decidueye is not in, the pokemon rep is Lycanroc
>Rex and Pyra are in
>Shadow is in, echo of Sonic obviously
>Isabelle is in, villager echo
>Fountain of Dreams, Yoshi's Island, and Brinstar Depths come back from Melee
>Hanenbow, Delphino, and Pirate Ship come back from Brawl
>Dream Land, Mute City, and Rainbow Road return from 3ds
>Gamer, Jungle Hijinxs, and Orbital Gate Assault are back from Wii U
>Pikmin is not getting a new stage
>F Zero is not getting a new stage either.
>Classic Mode is different from Wii U version, more similar to 3DS and Brawl/Melee
>All Star is now based on when the fighter entered smash
>Event Mode is back


>Expect a newcomer revealed in July

This is just some stuff I found interesting, I will be on here for likely a little white, might post more.
Smash Bros Ultimate
The next super smash bros game will have 10 more newcomers. Each Month 2 new fighters will be annoced each month. It seems to look like each month one fighter would be a new fighter, while the other is an echo fighter. In july we will see Excite Biker, and Chrom from Fire Embelm. August will have King Krool, and Shadow the Hedehog. Semtemper will have Crash Bandicoot and Doomguy. Doomguy or crash may be an echo fighter because each month has on echo and one new fighter. October has Isabell from animal crossing as an echo for villager, and Steve from Mincraft. November has Funky kong, most likely an echo, and Lycanroc. December had Simon Belmont and Spike from the Mario games. Release Date December 7th
A friend of mine that works for Ninthendo of American has some inside information about the charters for Super Smash Bros. Ultimate.

Decidueye will be revealed during a July Nintendo Direct Mini.

Heihachi will be revealed at EVO 2018.

Steve will be revealed at MineCon Earth 2018.

Siomon will be revealed on Halloween.

King K. Roll will be revealed During a November Nintendo Direct.

Karate Joe will be revealed on a Smash Bros direct just days before the game releases.

In the Direct, we will be told Banjo-Kazooie is in development as a DLC charter, and DLC for the game will release through out the switches life time.

Chartes not revealed before lunch are Geno, Dixie Kong, Dark Samus, Chrom, Isabel, Tails, and Shadow.
Hello. I am here from previous about my Smash codename leaks. I want to give out the full leaks, since I am frustrated of people getting them wrong.

July - King K. Rool and Dixie Kong
August - Heihachi Mishima
September - Decidueye
October - Simon Belmont and Isabelle
November - Dark Samus
December - Chorus Kids, Kat and Ana, Geno, and Ninten.

Here are also some leaks for the stages: Peach's Castle, Delfino Plaza, Brinstar Depths, and Poke Floats are going to return. G Corp Helipad, Gangplank Galleon, Dracula's Castle, Assembly Dojo, and Rhythm Heaven are going to be the new stages.
>List of new characters for Super Smash Bros Ultimate in the dataminer.

>King- Unlike many insiders say, this character is not King. K Roll. This character would be no one else but none other than Prince Noctis of Final Fantasy XV
>Ponytail - It would be Dixie Kong, an Echo Fighter by Diddy Kong
>Old Man- He would be the Heihachi character of the Tekken series
>Archer- The Archer is the Deciduey of Pokémon Sun and Moon, as many people had predicted
>Warrior - It would be the Simon Belmont of the Castlevania series (No news)
>Secretary- Is Isabell from Animal Crossing the same, as everyone had said
>Mech- It would be the Rex of Xenoblade Chronicles 2
>Rhythm- Rhythm is nothing more and nothing less than Marshall, character of the series Rythm Heaven.
>Folklore- Musashi, protagonist of Sushi Strike: The Way of Sushido is Folklore.
>Doll- It would be the Geno from Super Mario RPG: The Legend of Seven Stars
>Prime Ribs- This character is Ninten from the Mother series, he will be an Echo Fighter from Nes.
>Rainbow - He is Captain Rainbow, who will be an Echo Fighter from Captain Falcon.

>Surprise character - Toadette, she is not a playable character, however, she appears in a random action and will present herself as a file already unlocked or not in a random attempt in her fight. It will appear more in online games, however it can appear even in other modes how All-Stars Mode for example.
Hello everyone. I work as one of many translators for Super Smash Bros. Ultimate for the U.S. I don’t know everything about the game, but my fellow co-workers shared me some information regarding the upcoming game.
*66 K. K. Rool and 67 Dixie Kong are in the game. Both will be revealed in July this month in an upcoming direct. Dixie is a semi-clone with her hairspin techs, gum ball popgun, guitar, etc.
*68 Heihachi will be revealed at EVO and will be playable at the EVO build of the game.
{There will be an exhibition match with Heihachi and Ryu.}
*69 Geno From Super MARIO RPG
{There is a 3D model of Mallow (Final smash? Assist?}
*70 Amaterasu from Okami
{Uses black paint smash attacks}
*71 Ninten from Earthbound Beginnings
{PK fire variant that meteor smash opponents in air. PK beam standard B}
*72 Bandana Waddle Dee from Kirby
{Uses spear attacks and a parisol similar to Peach and DAISY}
*73 Ashley from WarioWare
{No info N/A}
*74 Decidueye from Pokémon
{Moveset inspired by Pokken Tournament and uses sinister arrow raid as Final Smash. Long Range attacker}
*16’ Impa
{No info N/A}
*45’ Isabelle
{Isabelle’s tree always spawns fruits. Different Color butterfly net, Lloid rocket stays horizontal, Faster than Villager}
*New stages I know so far:
^New Donk City
^The Oddysey {Stage that travels around ^different SMO Worlds}
^Gangplank Galleon
^R.O.B Famicon
^Ashley’s Mansion
^Dragon’s Nest {Tekken 7}
^Melemele Island (Iki Town)
*Returning stages I know so far:
^Peach’s Castle (64)
^Congo Jungle (64)
^Jungle Hyjinx
^Icicle Mountain
^Fountain of Dreams
^Dreamland
^Pirate Ship
^Mario Bros.
^Big Battle Field
^Gamer
^Rainbow Road
^Paper Mario
^Wooly World
*New Modes:
Boss Rush
SSE type of story mode with full cutscenes
All previous modes including Smash Run, Smash Tour, Tournaments, Spectating, etc. returns


Either he deleted it or the mods took it down like they took down ChaosZero's leak threads during the Brawl era. I imagine we'll hear what happened from him soon.
Honestly, you're doing the people's work my friend. Still, it scares me that of the leaks surviving July, only one of them has Isaac involved. Assuming Vergeben is correct, this hurts my boy's chances, though I personally am sceptical of Verge's claims. Given they're the 2nd/12th most mentioned characters on your leak tally, it feels way too safe.
 

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So it seems that Vergeben's leak is gone.

Either way, whilst there are a number of possibilities to why his thread is deleted, I still somehow have a feeling that this could be a similar situation with ChaosZero's Brawl leak (That is if Vergeben is correct.)
 
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No, but you can report them. The problem is, he's such a backpedaler and liar he can do this himself to make it "look good". It's not honestly worth trusting due to his own history.

Many leakers, sure, it wouldn't matter. It might even boost their credibility. Verg? Does the opposite. His behavior is terrible.
You can't report your own posts, fwiw. I don't trust vergeben for the record.
 

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You can't report your own posts, fwiw. I don't trust vergeben for the record.
Huh, I honestly forgot that. Either way, I don't think it means anything. As noted, it could have been reported for trolling due to his own record too. With how shady he is, he could've even had another user report it to make it "look better". The problem is that he's shady enough for this kind of stuff to make sense.

There's benefit of the doubt in some ways, but a thread being deleted isn't one of those in his cases.
 

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The only noteworthy deletion of leaks is when Nintendo issues a copyright take down of a leak video on Youtube IMO.
 
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