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I'd welcome any buff given to her but from a casual stand point, tiers mean nothing to me. If a character I like is low tier, well, every game has low tier characters. I'll enjoy them and leave worrying to more hardcore players.
reframing it so that it's more fun to discuss, but I believe that based on Sakurai's design preferences (strangely enough, closer to mine than I thought), that would be making every move viable/fun in casual play and making all characters as accessible as possible.
If I were to make a tier list based just off of my online encounters ROB would definitley be higher up there. I rarely encounter them, but when I do, I tend to have my butt handed to me. That U-air is just rediculous. Part of me wonders if the only reason he's considered bad is because no one wants to bother to use him.
I can understand that it is definitely possible that you've never fought a Bowser Jr. that understands how to use that character, but to say ROB is trash is pretty laughable. ROB is combo food but he's got way more for him neutral-wise and in his combo-game than Palu does. Also Mac has weaknesses but his advantage in the hands of a player that will do nothing but wait is terrifying.
Master Chief
It's not necessarily a Smash "leak", but it's kind of interesting nonetheless.
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"they're no longer allowed to exclude him. "
Maybe it's a bit too interesting.
This dlc pack includes how many characters?! Like that's just as many as the base roster!
R.O.B's top tier MUs range from unwinnable to horrible, and this is without counting all the other high tiers and mid tiers who rip him to shreds. His meta is so extint I forgot he was in the game at some point. Same with Bowser Jr, they are both garbage.
I can understand that it is definitely possible that you've never fought a Bowser Jr. that understands how to use that character, but to say ROB is trash is pretty laughable. ROB is combo food but he's got way more for him neutral-wise and in his combo-game than Palu does.Also Mac has weaknesses but his advantage in the hands of a player that will do nothing but wait is terrifying.
nevermind mac sucks you right
It is 2018, you would believe the fallacy of everyone is viable died off by 2016. You can have upsets all you want but it is clear they are dysfunctional. You can't tell me with a straight face that characters like D3 and Ganon are anything but trash.
I don't think it would work, normal stages are designed with every character in mind. You'd have to limit yourself with most unusual stages.I mentioned this a while ago but don't think anyone saw it, but I am curious. If they brought back Break the Targets, one for every character, but had the levels be literally normal Stages suitable for every character, would people be happy about that? It could still be made, with the location of every target, to demand the unique abilities of characters, and everyone would have their own stage for it. Lucas' stage would be New Pork with the Chimera in the way, just to make it hell for everyone.
I'd like that, but I am not sure most would like it that way.
Too many characters...
True, the Targets would not be able to be uniquely placed for each character like the Target Stages of Melee, but maybe they could make it interesting with the Standard Stages, at least. Like, make you have to beat Yellow Devil for one of the Targets, or maybe you have to break that beakable part on the BOTW stage for a Target hiding in there, etc.
Haha, we didn't even saw any kind of single player content yet, right? Eh, Everyone is Here is enough for a lot of casual players including myself but I hope we'll see more before game's release. Otherwise Ultimate seems most competitive game in the series.
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Indeed, since we have nothing other than the basic Battling yet, I have no idea what to expect. XD Like, I partly think it might have less Single Player content than the other Smash games just because the actual Battling and roster is Ridley-sized this time. But I partly feel like Sakurai, the Madman, may go all the way with Everyone is Here, and include every Mode in the franchise. So I figured that, IF they wanted to give every character their own Break the Targets stage, it would be relatively easy to use the existing Stages for it, even if it would be a bit simpler than in Melee.
I feel like Nintendo would just make a new game at that point.
Anything I do is all in good fun hahaI dunno why I deserve either, but go for it.
It really doesn't hurt to visit previous pages.
Yeah, I personally think that nothing much will happen until, say, November. People should just enjoy their summer in the meantime, life is too short to be worked out while others try to relax.I thought that was a given, though.You got me I 'spose.
To answer your earlier question, I expect us to get more solid information and reveals and w/e more towards the middle of Fall. Its mostly just a hunch, honestly.
ToPyra and the general thread:
When they said "closer to December" they didn't say "who knows" or "later" they said "closer to December."
Could we interpret that as "at any point after this very minute, because thats closer to December!" Sure. Absolutely. We could do that. Or we could seriously think about the choice of words used and not interpret things the way we want to interpret them just because we want stuff now.
No, "any minute after when they said that line" is not the "more likely" thing they meant. We have no reason to assume they meant anything other than "closer to Decemb-" holy **** I sound like a broken record......whatever you get where I'm coming from.
Could we get a reveal tomorrow? Yeah, sure, a legit leak could happen at any time. Maybe this'll be one of Sakurai's "famous troll moments" or whateva and he just drops the whole cast on the 22nd. Until I'm given a reason to think otherwise I'm gonna keep patiently waiting til mid-Fall, though.
Once again, I'm not trying to tell anybody how or what they should think, I don't know why people get that impression still tbh, when I come in and ask a question like "why are we still thinking a reveal will happen soon?" I'm actually curious as to why people are doing that. It is a genuine question.
AND I DEMAND A SATISFYING ANSWER!
As good as Shovel Knight did, he might be a non-factor in Japan. Rayman and Shantae on the other hand are much closer to being viable.
Will you end up eating something that shouldn't be put in the mouth if it doesn't happen?
Shovel Knight has a pretty charming setting, presentation and plays well to boot. His game is what every Kickstarter project aspires to be; simply well-crafted and uncompromised. Plus his gameplay style can translate pretty well into Smash Bros.
Slightly off-topic, but have you heard of the Game Boy Color version? I heard that has a few improvements and is good in its own right.
(Somebody already posted it didn't they. dangit.)
I think it's just gonna be for the whole console.
I counted the characters. Excluding alts and the gazillion Mii costumes, this leaker claims that we'll be getting at least 32 new characters. He also claims that Nintendo will make more if it sells well, as if he'd have that sort of information.
So my character I'd love to see in Smash Ultimate is Isaac from Golden Sun.
Sounds OK to me. I can live with less characters, considering how many we got last time. But I hope I'll like at least one more of the newcomers.
Is like nobody reads what i write and they decide to do the exact same joke with the exact same image reaction every time I post the calendar.
Dude are predictions are almost next to identical
Trimmed the fat a little bit since last time. 70 characters, 8 echoes.
Newcomers (Green): Inkling, Ridley, K. Rool, Ashley, Isaac, Badanna Dee, Geno. 7 in total with 5 yet to be unveiled.
New Echoes (Yellow): Daisy, Dixie Kong, Chrom, Isabelle, Dark Samus, Shadow. 6 in total with 5 yet to be unveiled.
I think this satisfies the "I hope you aren't expecting too many new fighters" requirement while still putting fan favourites in the forefront of the base game.
I based the newcomers on mii outfits post-ballot and the general popularity of each character. Here on Smash Boards, specifically, K. Rool, Ashley, Isaac, Bandanna Dee, and Geno's threads have the most replies of non-deconfirmed characters in that order. I also took into account Japanese polling (as inaccurate as it may be). K. Rool is the fan favourite worldwide now that Ridley is finally in Smash. Isaac is not massively popular in Japan, being essentially the polar opposite of Bandanna Dee in that regard; their respective levels of popularity flipping in Japan and the West. Ashley is a breakout character that has been at the forefront of a lot of Nintendo's marketing the last couple years, most recently with her very large roles in both Badge Arcade and even more recently WarioWare Gold. Her Assist Trophy, something that caused a lot of people to be upset last time around, is also nowhere to be seen. Geno is the character with the most staying power of them all, being associated with Smash speculation in both Japan and the West. This, coupled with Sakurai's own statements, the Mii costume, and Square-Enix's participation from the very beginning of production leads me to believe he will be in as well.
The Echo Fighters all seem like no-brainers. I don't believe Diddy Kong's jab being changed to remove his tail is a coincidence: Dixie Kong will be, in all likelihood, Diddy's Echo Fighter. Robin's Final Smash not being shown leads me to believe Chrom will be playable. If Nintendo loves one thing, it's FE:A and like it or not he's the most important character from Awakening that isn't playable. Why an Echo Fighter? Because Sakurai has joked that Chrom is basically a clone of Ike. I don't really agree with this at all, but in a world where we've been given an introduction on the concept of "Echo Fighters," it would be kind of bizarre to not include several. Chrom seems like a no-brainer for a safe Echo Fighter. Isabelle is like Ashley on steroids. Where Ashley has seen a huge explosion of popularity in Japan, Isabelle is probably the most famous Nintendo character introduced post-2010 on both sides of the world. Animal Crossing Pocket Camp is currently making Nintendo a metric crapload of money and throwing her in to advertise not only that but a future console Animal Crossing game is a really, really safe bet. Dark Samus's Assist Trophy has not been seen, nor does Samus appear to have any Dark Samus alt costume. Dark Samus is another one of those characters that seems like a really safe bet for padding out the "Echo Fighters," and also throwing the West another bone in the form of more Metroid in Smash. Shadow is a really weird one. Obviously his Assist Trophy has been replaced with Knuckles, but the only reason I put him on here is a very strong suspicion that he'll be playable. I don't even especially want him to be, it's just a powerful intuition I have about these sorts of things.
I think this is probably the most realistic fanservice-heavy roster we could get. There would be very few people legitimately disappointed by this, and it lets the DLC venture into the realm of the more obscure.
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Sorry that wasn't supposed to be a poke at you. I saw the stuff that you'd written at the bottom. I didn't realise it'd been a joke made before and thought it was just kinda funny. Sorry about that.
Does the scale stop at 10? xD
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
on a scale from 1 to 10, i am very suspect
So they're going to make Mario Kart 9 worth of content, but just release it as DLC
I cannot be angry with Shulk, is looking at that face and i just want to hug him, so don't worry everything is fine.
That's super interesting, but feels too detailed to be real.
