Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Opossum]

I like this. It has a strange but hilarious charm. It can also test your patience quite well!

"Too many cooks! Too many cooks..."

 

[WolfCypher]

So, just got a Question for all of you, What's your Favorite Skin for your main/mains?

Mine is the Yellow Kirby for Kirby, Because It's a callback to Kirby's Dream Course, and who doesn't like playing as a bassically golden kirby?

I love listing "favorites" and such.

Kirby: That kinda orange/peach color introduced in SSB4 (no. 7)

Fox: Orange Fox (no. 5)

Pit: Gold Pit (no. 2)

Lucario: All-Blue Lucario (no. 3)

Greninja: Black Greninja (no. 4)

 

[Luminario]

Me: Using the gaps in the poster to figure out newcomers is "Ridley in the Clouds/Shadowmath"-tier theorizing.

Also Me: There's a spot next to Robin that would fit Chrom. Two buddies hanging out.

He's sitting down pointing something out in his tome. It seems like maybe a smaller magic-based character could fit in to the right of him? Maybe like a witch? peering over looking at something in his tome?

Spoiler

it's ashley I'm talking about ashley

 

[IntelliHeath1]

Not sure about you but one safe bet where a character is on the poster

I find it really hard to believe it's Pokémon trainer wario is spooked or scared from (possibly dedede as well

And charizard is definitely not after wario plus hard to believe wario would be scared of a ivysaur or squirtle besides he's not even looking at them

Characters get added to the picture confirmed from Ridley and daisy being added too it

So if I'm right who could be there.

Ya know Wario had a history with Pokemon Trainer due to story mode in Brawl right? That's probably a reference to that.

 

[AlphaSSB]

This could be a fun game - See the most current panorama artwork. Remember it loops, so there's also some open space between Riddles/DHD/Robin and ICs/G&W. Also remember you can move characters around a bit

Where would your favorite character fit in?

If I were to put Dovahkiin in, I'd put him behind Robin looking up at Ridley, and I'd make room by moving DHD above G&W to cover Popo's mallet.

Easy. Didn't even have to move anyone around.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

Spoiler

Every character Dedede beats up is an anime swordsman. You know what that means, right?
Dedede hates anime.

Obligatory.

Spoiler

 

[Opossum]

He's sitting down pointing something out in his tome. It seems like maybe a smaller magic-based character could fit in to the right of him? Maybe like a witch? peering over looking at something in his tome?

Spoiler

it's ashley I'm talking about ashley

A small, untrained/potentially illiterate magic user?


Get hyped for Nino, everyone.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

On a different note, I've been re-watching the character showcase trailers and I think I've figured something out about Dedede

Spoiler

Every character Dedede beats up is an anime swordsman. You know what that means, right?
Dedede hates anime.

Guess DeDeDe loves his step family (Kid Icarus) but hates Zelda and Fire Emblem

 

[IntelliHeath1]

He's sitting down pointing something out in his tome. It seems like maybe a smaller magic-based character could fit in to the right of him? Maybe like a witch? peering over looking at something in his tome?

Spoiler

it's ashley I'm talking about ashley

It can meant anything like Chorus Kids, Chrom, Ashley, and few potential choices. It's fun to take a look at the mural and figure out what we could go with. I hope that people noticed there are two spaces in the sky for any characters that could fly or float. Like Bandana Dee, Dixie Kong, etc. Also there is enough space for Mimikyu next to Pichu and Pikachu. There are too way many potential outcomes but hard to predict because the characters would be moved to allows the free spaces for newcomers and echo fighters.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

That's odd considering he's one of the few characters that was actually in one.

Fun Fact: The Dedede in Smash Bros. is not the same one from the TV series who has the Texan accent.

 

[Metal Shop X]

There is also the "Everybody is here!" memes that never stop, which get me too!

>no.101 isn't Wonder Red

Dislike.

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Also, guys, I finally know why Bandana Dee isn't already in Smash:

It's because he is actually more broken than Brawl Meta Knight.

No really, look at this.

Sakurai intented to put him Smash 4, but since he was so broken, he had to remove him from the roster until he could make him fair & balance for Ultimate.

*clap* I GOT IT BOYZ.

 

[Deleted member]

This could be a fun game - See the most current panorama artwork. Remember it loops, so there's also some open space between Riddles/DHD/Robin and ICs/G&W. Also remember you can move characters around a bit

Where would your favorite character fit in?

If I were to put Dovahkiin in, I'd put him behind Robin looking up at Ridley, and I'd make room by moving DHD above G&W to cover Popo's mallet.

I'd move Sonic a little and have Decidueye aim an arrow at Greninja.
I like the idea of the two having a rivalry of sort.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

I think he wants to forget about that

He doesn’t get to forget

 

[Deleted member]

Fun Fact: The Dedede in Smash Bros. is not the same one from the TV series who has the Texan accent.

Are there multiple Dededes in the lore or something, or is this just referring to the voices being different?

 

[Deleted member]

He doesn’t get to forget

You must face your fears head-on if you are to overcome them.

 

[CyberHyperPhoenix]

Fun Fact: The Dedede in Smash Bros. is not the same one from the TV series who has the Texan accent.

Not like it matters that much, he still gets away without being charged for Tax Fraud, unlike Yoshi.


:^)

 

[CaptainAmerica]

On a different note, I've been re-watching the character showcase trailers and I think I've figured something out about Dedede
Every character Dedede beats up is an anime swordsman. You know what that means, right?
Dedede hates anime.

Masahiro Sakurai voices Dedede, so it follows that Sakurai hates Fire Emblem. Close up shop, everyone, no Fire Emblem newcomers confirmed.

So, just got a Question for all of you, What's your Favorite Skin for your main/mains?

Mine is the Yellow Kirby for Kirby, Because It's a callback to Kirby's Dream Course, and who doesn't like playing as a bassically golden kirby?

: Default green tunic or Dark/Fierce Deity, but I'm liking the new Champions Tunic and Royal Guard too. I just wish the FD was white and not grey/teal.
: Always loved her black and green recolors. Her green doesn't look too good online now (maybe better in game?), but the new TP and blue recolors look great. Her red looked better before, but her blue before was not good at all.
: Not a fan that they took away his blue swole recolors since I liked those best. Still, I'll be exclusively playing buff Ike in the next one, the other one doesn't look right to me.
: I usually stick to defaults for them, but all of the male recolors of the trainer have great Squirtle colors, which is the important part for me. Bonus points for the Ethan recolor having shiny Squirtle. If only we had a Team Rocket with Squirtle Shades and a legit shiny Zard
: Shadow FTW. Blue also looks great. Too bad there's no green for a shiny.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Are there multiple Dededes or something, or is this just referring to the voices being different?

Pretty much the latter. Dedede does not speak in a Texan-like manner in the games, and this is further evidenced in Brawl and Smash 3DS / Wii U, since Sakurai played the voice of Dedede for those games.

 

[Blargg888]

Now, I'm not challenging your usage of "one of Sakurai's tricks" but here's my thing.

I see it all the time where people say, "Sakurai is trolling us. He loves to troll!"

I'm over here like, "When did he troll us with something?" "When did the trolling result in a playable character?"

Am I just out of the loop or are people just saying that Sakurai likes to troll to make up a reason as to why certain characters still have a shot at playable in this game?

I mean, it's not wrong to say that he has trolled us before, but it has only ever been a few times, in short increments, and with very minor, harmless jokes. For example, the "The End (Just Kidding!)" in the E3 Direct, or the "ZSS isn't gonna be in... Nah I'm only kidding." bit from the April Direct in 2014. There's also the Meta Knight Mii Mask Pic of the Day from back in Summer 2014, but even that only lasted two days.

People seem to think that, because Sakurai makes these little jokes from time to time, he is a master troll who plays the deceitful long con. Even though that's not really the case, and he's never really done that.

There is also the "Everybody is here!" memes that never stop, which get me too!

The fact that Sans is always listed as 10E in these makes me laugh.

Also, I'd totally buy a Smash game with every Fire Emblem character in it.
I'd main Nino and Rennac.

 

[Impa4Smash]

This could be a fun game - See the most current panorama artwork. Remember it loops, so there's also some open space between Riddles/DHD/Robin and ICs/G&W. Also remember you can move characters around a bit

Where would your favorite character fit in?

If I were to put Dovahkiin in, I'd put him behind Robin looking up at Ridley, and I'd make room by moving DHD above G&W to cover Popo's mallet.

I would put Impa next to Sheik, above Samus (there's some room), and have her doing a similar stance to Sheik, but just mirroring it. Sheikah trainer and trainee

 

[Deleted member]

Pretty much the latter. Dedede does not speak in a Texan-like manner in the games, and this is further evidenced in Brawl and Smash 3DS / Wii U, since Sakurai played the voice of Dedede for those games.

Yeah, and Meta Knight isn't Spanish in Smash either.

 

[MBRedboy31]

So, just got a Question for all of you, What's your Favorite Skin for your main/mains?

Mine is the Yellow Kirby for Kirby, Because It's a callback to Kirby's Dream Course, and who doesn't like playing as a bassically golden kirby?

For Kirby, I prefer the default pink.

For R.O.B., I prefer the Virtual Boy-esque red and black costume. Part of why it was hard for me to want to play as R.O.B. In Brawl was actually because I didn’t like any of his costumes, so good thing Smash 4 fixed that.

 

[MasterofMonster]

I am starting to regret wanting Crash in Smash. I have never, ever been this pissed at a franchise. The amount of unfair hell in this Trilogy is the worst I have ever experienced. Not even Bloodborne and the final levels in Rayman Origins made me this angry.

Someone give me something heavy so I can throw it across the room.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

I am starting to regret wanting Crash in Smash. I have never, ever been this pissed at a franchise. The amount of unfair hell in this Trilogy is the worst I have ever experienced. Not even Bloodborne and the final levels in Rayman Origins made me this angry.

Someone give me something heavy so I can throw it across the room.

Sounds like "High Road Syndrome" is still a thing then, because that level is often considered to be among the worst levels in the Crash Bandicoot series for being an unfairly difficult main game level. The jump physics apparently don't help either.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Donkey Kong replaced with Rare characters in his own trilogy? Sakur-er Rare bias.

At least DK got to be playable again in 64 (okay, Chunky gets the last blow on K. Rool, but that fight's a team effort anyways).

But Mario knows of Nintendo aswell, and Pit/Snake is above all

Or Celica, but Chrom being playable isn’t a bad thing...unless I don’t get my dosage of Viridi/Palutena roasting Chrom

If only Cranky Kong was in there, the guy would chat with those two for hours.

 

[Iridium]

So, just got a Question for all of you, What's your Favorite Skin for your main/mains?

Mine is the Yellow Kirby for Kirby, Because It's a callback to Kirby's Dream Course, and who doesn't like playing as a bassically golden kirby?

: Hylian Hood (red)

: Shadow Mewtwo (dark)

: Green/Blue/Black (I like a lot of these)

: Red/Black

: Black/Light Blue

: Dark/Red/Green

: Red/Original

Honestly, I like a LOT of characters, and if I could do more, I would, but this is good for now.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

You must face your fears head-on if you are to overcome them.

Tell that to

 

[MasterofMonster]

Sounds like "High Road Syndrome" is still a thing then, because that level is often considered to be among the worst levels in the Crash Bandicoot series for being an unfairly difficult main game level. The jump physics apparently don't help either.

Is that the Role Bridge level in the first game? (I forget the names) that one was absolutely terrible, but I did beat it. I gave up on Crash 1, however, when I entered the second Rope Bridge level. While I do not wanna overly hate on the games, I find the hitboxes, jump physics, and even the level design, to very often be either very bad, or super broken.

I also think I will give up on Crash 2. Bee-Having is worthy of many profanities, ugh. I have heard Crash 3 is better than the first two, so I guess I should try it, too, but I have such a hard time dealing with these games so far.

But I guess this is a bit too off-topic. I DO still want Crash in Smash Ultimate, I like Crash as a character/universe, and he deserves to be in. But while I knew the game were hard, I did not think they would frustrate me this much. I wanna like them, but it's hard so far.

 

[P.Kat]

This could be a fun game - See the most current panorama artwork. Remember it loops, so there's also some open space between Riddles/DHD/Robin and ICs/G&W. Also remember you can move characters around a bit

Where would your favorite character fit in?

If I were to put Dovahkiin in, I'd put him behind Robin looking up at Ridley, and I'd make room by moving DHD above G&W to cover Popo's mallet.

Amaterasu would be resting by Snake with Issun, (her inch tall companion) bouncing or sitting on her snout as she looks up curiously at Lucario.

Shantae would be belly dancing next to Pokémon Trainer on his left and Villager would be moved more to the left.

Sora would be sitting next to Cloud on his right with his trademark smile.

Elma would be in the air attacking next to Shulk with dual pistols while Peach would be moved up more.

Gardevoir, would be by Rosalina looking curiously at Luma (comparing the strong bond of those two with the one she has with her trainer).

Fjorm standing guard by Robin's right, ready to attack anyone who seems like a threat to the hero.

Micaiah would be by Ike getting ready to shoot a spell at Mewtwo (Who would win between the two?), with Lucas and Dark Pit being moved up a bit.

Blaze The Cat would be on the right of Sonic running with him, while Greninja would be moved a bit to the right.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

At least DK got to be playable again in 64 (okay, Chunky gets the last blow on K. Rool, but that fight's a team effort anyways).



If only Cranky Kong was in there, the guy would chat with those two for hours.

Pit, Snake, and Cranky...The Holy Trinity of 4th Wall Breakers in Smash

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

Are there multiple Dededes in the lore or something, or is this just referring to the voices being different?

*cough* Just preparing my nerd out for a sec.
The events that take place in the anime are not canon, and there is only one King Dedede in the lore. King Dedede also does not talk in the games.
Meta Knight's a little bit different, because he has talked in Super Star, but was given a voice onl in brawl.

 

[Deleted member]

King Dedede also does not talk in the games.

Who said this badass line then?

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

Who said this badass line then?
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Dang son. Never mind that! What game is that anyway?
Looks like a DS game, Never knew too much about the DS games.

 

[Deleted member]

Dang son. Never mind that! What game is that anyway?
Looks like a DS game, Never knew too much about the DS games.

Super Star Ultra.
Second best Kirby game

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

Super Star Ultra.
Second best Kirby game

Dang son.
Revenge of the King?
I thought revenge of the King was just a Kirby's Dream Land remake.

 

[SonicMario]

Is that the Role Bridge level in the first game? (I forget the names) that one was absolutely terrible, but I did beat it. I gave up on Crash 1, however, when I entered the second Rope Bridge level. While I do not wanna overly hate on the games, I find the hitboxes, jump physics, and even the level design, to very often be either very bad, or super broken.

I also think I will give up on Crash 2. Bee-Having is worthy of many profanities, ugh. I have heard Crash 3 is better than the first two, so I guess I should try it, too, but I have such a hard time dealing with these games so far.

But I guess this is a bit too off-topic. I DO still want Crash in Smash Ultimate, I like Crash as a character/universe, and he deserves to be in. But while I knew the game were hard, I did not think they would frustrate me this much. I wanna like them, but it's hard so far.

The Bridge levels actually have a bit of a trick where if you land on the side of the ropes perfectly you can concievably cheese much of the level. There's some points where you'll still have to do some of the platforming. But that trick is still pretty helpful if you're not a fan of the bridge levels at all. (EDIT: Though when you're on the side of the bridge. I suggest using the d-pad rather then the analog to move forward otherwise even just a tad diagonal push on the control stick might lead to you falling)

Though yeah Crash games are ones you probably want to stock up on lives. Crash 1 has the Lost City level where you can grind wampa fruits by staying in a spot where Crash's spins will hit the bats but not get hit by the bats himself. It takes a while but having the stockpile of lives helps with more chances. Though you can also always play the easy levels over and over again to grind for fruits and lives as well. The latter goes for all 3 games.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Keep in mind that Dedede lacked a voice actor in almost every single Kirby series game that he appeared in. Before Star Allies, Dedede only really had a voice in the Super Smash Bros. series.

 

[CatRaccoonBL]

Actually, the Cage fight in revenge of the King is a refrence to the Cage Fight in Kirby's Dream Land.
Sorry had to let my nerd out for a sec there.

What cage fight in Dream Land? I went back to look at footage from Dream land and I don't see a cage fight, not even in the extra mode.

Yes, Revenge of the King is a reference to Kirby's Dreamland's extra mode, but there certainly doesn't seem to be a cage anywhere. So King Dedede's final smash is pretty much just a direct reference to Revenge of the King from Superstar Ultra.

 

[PeridotGX]

So, just got a Question for all of you, What's your Favorite Skin for your main/mains?

Mine is the Yellow Kirby for Kirby, Because It's a callback to Kirby's Dream Course, and who doesn't like playing as a bassically golden kirby?

I mostly go with the light blue ones for some reason. The only character that I dot use Blue for is Lucas (Claus alt). As for the characters I'm intrested in picking up, I'm probably going to go Default Male for Inkling and the Ethan colors for Pokemon Trainer

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

What cage fight in Dream Land? I went back to look at footage from Dream land and I don't see a cage fight, not even in the extra mode.

Yes, Revenge of the King is a reference to Kirby's Dreamland's extra mode, but there certainly doesn't seem to be a cage anywhere. So King Dedede's final smash is pretty much just a direct reference to Revenge of the King from Superstar Ultra.

When you face Masked Dedede, the arena will be surrounded by electrical walls; the walls will damage Kirby if he touches them, so it's sort of like being trapped in a cage.