Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[MamaLuigi123456]

I've been thinking about this because if I'm able to mod this game, I'm putting these two back in for sure. There might be some voice clips somewhere on the Lylat Cruise Easter Egg that could be repurposed for their Final Smashes. Worst case scenario, they're mute for the duration of the move.

Find a way to give Bowser's old Final Smash back while you're at it.
I don't like what they're doing with Giga Bowser personally.

 

[Opossum]

Me: Using the gaps in the poster to figure out newcomers is "Ridley in the Clouds/Shadowmath"-tier theorizing.

Also Me: There's a spot next to Robin that would fit Chrom. Two buddies hanging out.

 

[Green_Pikmin*]

If recall back at the Smash invitational Demo in 2014 there were only 4 costumes per character (though it was likely this was to keep 8 player smash a surprise). With this years demo having 8 costumes and Meta Ridleys costume teased in the trailer, I'm willing to believe we have not seen everyones alt. costumes yet.

 

[Deleted member]

If recall back at the Smash invitational Demo in 2014 there were only 4 costumes per character (though it was likely this was to keep 8 player smash a surprise). With this years demo having 8 costumes and Meta Ridleys costume teased in the trailer, I'm willing to believe we have not seen everyones alt. costumes yet.

The remaining costumes haven't been revealed to keep the Battle Royale mode a secret.

 

[KMDP]

One minor change I want to see for would be, well, 's face. His/her face seems so still during their victory animations, and it bugs me out a bit. This is not that big an issue, but seeing the trainers be more expressive would be nice.

To be fair, unexpressive Pokémon Trainer faces aren't exactly new to the Pokémon series. XD

 

[WolfCypher]

Honestly though people will call Sakurai bias on everything. Bowser being more intimidating than the goofy dad we all love? Sakurai bias. Zelda not getting anyone other than Triforce holders? Sakurai bias. DK not getting enough content? Sakurai bias. Too many Fire Emblem characters? Sakurai bias. I think you get the point

Also someone pointed out to me that Donkey Kong is only playable in 1 DKC game of the original trilogy and that's a galaxy brain decision lmao

That's actually the reason I never played DKC2 and 3. I loved DKC, but as a kid it never felt right finally getting DK back from limbo (since Rare revived the character), putting him front and center in a successful new game and immediately "damsel-in-distress"ing him for the sequels. I've yet to play those games even today.

 

[Metal Shop X]

For the poster, Wario is definitly looking at the Trainer, the fact he is scared is a reference to the ESS, where Red (I know he isn't Red but I call him that because it's easier) & Lucas kicked his butt.

Dedede tho? I'm not sure, he could be either scared by Wario or Charizard, but it's hard to tell honestly.

To be fair, unexpressive Pokémon Trainer faces aren't exactly new to the Pokémon series. XD

Especially coming from the trainer that is obviously inspired from, the most you can expect from him is a "...!".

Tho, seriously, his face, and loads of character face for that matter. will be much better later, the game is still not finish after all.

 

[Deleted member]

To be fair, unexpressive Pokémon Trainer faces aren't exactly new to the Pokémon series. XD

Sun and Moon, anyone?

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

They're not getting in. This is just another one of Sakurai's tricks.
Zero Suit Samus, anyone?

Now, I'm not challenging your usage of "one of Sakurai's tricks" but here's my thing.

I see it all the time where people say, "Sakurai is trolling us. He loves to troll!"

I'm over here like, "When did he troll us with something?" "When did the trolling result in a playable character?"

Am I just out of the loop or are people just saying that Sakurai likes to troll to make up a reason as to why certain characters still have a shot at playable in this game?

 

[MainJPW]

Well, obviously the WarioWare Mario games are interactive autobiographies, duh!

That's kinda the same thought I had, and wasn't Super Mario Bros. 3 a play? That's what Mr. Miyamoto said.

 

[Zerp]

Not sure about you but one safe bet where a character is on the poster

I find it really hard to believe it's Pokémon trainer wario is spooked or scared from (possibly dedede as well

And charizard is definitely not after wario plus hard to believe wario would be scared of a ivysaur or squirtle besides he's not even looking at them

Characters get added to the picture confirmed from Ridley and daisy being added too it

So if I'm right who could be there.

>Character is intimidating enough that Wario is panicking, meanwhile nobody else except one character on the mural is spooked, even by Ridley, so this character is probably even more intimidating than Ridley.
>Dedede is the other character and he's scared even though he's more distant from the mystery character

It probably means nothing but if there's actually supposed to be a character there, that sure sounds like Dark Matter.

Spoiler

Yep, it'd look natural if you placed Pokemon Trainer somewhere else and Jigglypuff slightly higher.

Damn it, I'm starting to actually believe this might be what's actually happening lol

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

So, I wanna get into some Competetive Smash Tournaments, whats a good way to get a good name to go by when you smash?

 

[Deleted member]

Now, I'm not challenging your usage of "one of Sakurai's tricks" but here's my thing.

I see it all the time where people say, "Sakurai is trolling us. He loves to troll!"

I'm over here like, "When did he troll us with something?" "When did the trolling result in a playable character?"

Am I just out of the loop or are people just saying that Sakurai likes to troll to make up a reason as to why certain characters still have a shot at playable in this game?

I'm just ****posting, don't take this seriously.

 

[Ura]

Me: Using the gaps in the poster to figure out newcomers is "Ridley in the Clouds/Shadowmath"-tier theorizing.

Also Me: There's a spot next to Robin that would fit Chrom. Two buddies hanging out.

Call me biased and whatnot (this won't come across any way else lol) but I had a thought that the person next to Robin could possibly be Andy looking curiously at what Robin's reading.

Andy being the dim-wit needing an explanation from Robin would kinda make sense. Trying to make sense of something he knows nothing about lol.

 

[Androobie]

Call me biased and whatnot (this won't come across any way else lol) but I had a thought that the person next to Robin could possibly be Andy looking curiously at what Robin's reading.

Andy being the dim-wit needing an explanation from Robin would kinda make sense. Trying to make sense of something he knows nothing about lol.

Seems legit.

 

[Deleted member]

So, I wanna get into some Competetive Smash Tournaments, whats a good way to get a good name to go by when you smash?

Honestly, just pick what seems right. The name I use is the 3rd or 4th name I've used for tournaments and it's the only one that stuck. If you don't like how a name sounds after one tournament, enter under another one.

Of course, this will depend on the TO. If you start doing well, entering under multiple names will mess up seeding and the PR if the tournament you go to does that sort of thing.

 

[Ura]

Seems legit.

Most of the **** I say is straw-grasping lol.

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

Honestly, just pick what seems right. The name I use is the 3rd or 4th name I've used for tournaments and it's the only one that stuck. If you don't like how a name sounds after one tournament, enter under another one.

Of course, this will depend on the TO. If you start doing well, entering under multiple names will mess up seeding and the PR if the tournament you go to does that sort of thing.

Ok, thanks for the advice.
I want it to kind of relate to the Character i play or something like that. but i dunno. I'll think about it.
(Going to get Prenium to change it)
But one thing I've been thinking about is "The Nate Who Says Ni" Because
1. Nate's my name. (Go figure)
2. It's a reference to Monty Python and the Holy Grail, and that's one of my favorite movies.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

I'm just ****posting, don't take this seriously.

It's not even you specifically that has me confuzzled, my dude. You're fine.

It's mainly just because I see the "he's trolling", "he loves to troll" all over the internet and simply don't know where it started.

I mean sure, people thought he was trolling with Ridley, but that was to me entirely fan perception. If not wearing rose-tinted glasses at the time, it was obvious Ridley was a stage hazard. There was no trolling involved.

Oy.

Me: Using the gaps in the poster to figure out newcomers is "Ridley in the Clouds/Shadowmath"-tier theorizing.

Also Me: There's a spot next to Robin that would fit Chrom. Two buddies hanging out.

I too have been doing this.

For example, with DK swinging on that there vine, I can't help but feel K.Rool could be added looking up at him as a rival of sorts.

If i'm remembering correctly, I looked at the "Everyone is Here" mural the other day and it seems to me that they move characters around to fit in newer ones. So Duck Hunt was moved out of the way for Ridley to take up part of that space. Definitely interesting.

 

[Deleted member]

Ok, thanks for the advice.
I want it to kind of relate to the Character i play or something like that. but i dunno. I'll think about it.
(Going to get Prenium to change it)
But one thing I've been thinking about is "The Nate Who Says Ni" Because
1. Nate's my name. (Go figure)
2. It's a reference to Monty Python and the Holy Grail, and that's one of my favorite movies.

I'd recommend not tying your name to a specific character unless you're really good at sticking with that one character. My original name was tied pretty heavily to Greninja and I no longer play him in any capacity.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Call me biased and whatnot (this won't come across any way else lol) but I had a thought that the person next to Robin could possibly be Andy looking curiously at what Robin's reading.

Andy being the dim-wit needing an explanation from Robin would kinda make sense. Trying to make sense of something he knows nothing about lol.

This could be a fun game - See the most current panorama artwork. Remember it loops, so there's also some open space between Riddles/DHD/Robin and ICs/G&W. Also remember you can move characters around a bit

Where would your favorite character fit in?

If I were to put Dovahkiin in, I'd put him behind Robin looking up at Ridley, and I'd make room by moving DHD above G&W to cover Popo's mallet.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Find a way to give Bowser's old Final Smash back while you're at it.
I don't like what they're doing with Giga Bowser personally.

I think the reason for the Final Smash changes is so that players aren't forced to have to flee from a certain fighter for over 10 seconds. This is especially true with Giga Mac, considering how insanely strong his ground game is in Smash 3DS / Wii U.

 

[Ura]

This could be a fun game - See the most current panorama artwork. Remember it loops, so there's also some open space between Riddles/DHD/Robin and ICs/G&W. Also remember you can move characters around a bit

Where would your favorite character fit in?

If I were to put Dovahkiin in, I'd put him behind Robin looking up at Ridley, and I'd make room by moving DHD above G&W to cover Popo's mallet.

As I mentioned before I would have Andy to the right of Robin gawking at what he's doing not knowing anything about tombs.

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

I'd recommend not tying your name to a specific character unless you're really good at sticking with that one character. My original name was tied pretty heavily to Greninja and I no longer play him in any capacity.

That's Probably why I'm sticking with "The Nate Who Says Ni"
Blips was actually Tied to G&W, and how he Blips back and forth, and now that i learned that the hard way, I know what you mean xD

 

[zeldasmash]

Does anyone

Me: Using the gaps in the poster to figure out newcomers is "Ridley in the Clouds/Shadowmath"-tier theorizing.

Also Me: There's a spot next to Robin that would fit Chrom. Two buddies hanging out.

That would be really cool.

Speaking of Chrom, does anyone here think his chances are likely to make it in? I'm genuinely curious.

I think his chances are pretty decent (the guy is basically done as he has a model, voice clips, an announcer call by Xander Mobus and I think he had a moveset done but Robin scrapped him), but with the Fire Emblem stigma being really high, I think people are gonna hate on him due to him not being Lyn, Hector or even Micaiah (though I personally think the sword user argument is pretty stupid).

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

So, just got a Question for all of you, What's your Favorite Skin for your main/mains?

Mine is the Yellow Kirby for Kirby, Because It's a callback to Kirby's Dream Course, and who doesn't like playing as a bassically golden kirby?

 

[Rie Sonomura]

This could be a fun game - See the most current panorama artwork. Remember it loops, so there's also some open space between Riddles/DHD/Robin and ICs/G&W. Also remember you can move characters around a bit

Where would your favorite character fit in?

If I were to put Dovahkiin in, I'd put him behind Robin looking up at Ridley, and I'd make room by moving DHD above G&W to cover Popo's mallet.

Simon - next to Snake, since they’re both Konami properties (Lucario is relocated close to Pichu and Pikachu)
Bandana Dee - replacing Mr. Saturn, as previously theorized
Elma - replacing Duck Hunt’s position, possibly aiming at Ridley, and Duck Hunt is moved to be above Samus
Rhythm Heaven character - if Chorus Kids, in front of Pokemon Trainer’s 3 Pokémon, hence Wario and DDD’s panicked looks. If Marshal, in between Daisy, Bayonetta and Mewtwo.
Rex & Pyra - close to Shulk. Ness is moved closer to Pokémon Trainer.
ARMS character - between Little Mac and Cloud

 

[Opossum]

Does anyone


That would be really cool.

Speaking of Chrom, does anyone here think his chances are likely to make it in? I'm genuinely curious.

I think his chances are pretty decent (the guy is basically done as he has a model, voice clips, an announcer call by Xander Mobus and I think he had a moveset done but Robin scrapped him), but with the Fire Emblem stigma being really high, I think people are gonna hate on him due to him not being Lyn, Hector or even Micaiah (though I personally think the sword user argument is pretty stupid).

I think his chances exist, but I'm not putting too much faith in his odds to avoid being disappointed.

 

[Zerp]

So, I wanna get into some Competetive Smash Tournaments, whats a good way to get a good name to go by when you smash?

Don't name yourself something that sounds absurdly edgy like ZeroSoul and you should be fine.

Really though, I'd recommend naming yourself after your favorite food, food names are the best names, or just something you like.

This could be a fun game - See the most current panorama artwork. Remember it loops, so there's also some open space between Riddles/DHD/Robin and ICs/G&W. Also remember you can move characters around a bit

Where would your favorite character fit in?

If I were to put Dovahkiin in, I'd put him behind Robin looking up at Ridley, and I'd make room by moving DHD above G&W to cover Popo's mallet.

I just did that but I'll post it again

Pokemon Trainer would need to move further in the background and to the left behind Villager along with his Pokemon, except Squirtle, Squirtle could go in front of Dark Matter, Ivysaur and Jigglypuff could go a bit higher just to make sure they're visible enough, and I think it'd be perfect.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Also, kinda random but I'm gonna say it. Nintendo Exists in the Wario Ware Universe and Mario is a game in the Wario Ware universe, and therefore Wario is on a higher plane of existence than wario.

Food for thought.

But Mario knows of Nintendo aswell, and Pit/Snake is above all

Speaking of Chrom, does anyone here think his chances are likely to make it in? I'm genuinely curious.

I think his chances are pretty decent (the guy is basically done as he has a model, voice clips, an announcer call by Xander Mobus and I think he had a moveset done but Robin scrapped him), but with the Fire Emblem stigma being really high, I think people are gonna hate on him due to him not being Lyn, Hector or even Micaiah.

Or Celica, but Chrom being playable isn’t a bad thing...unless I don’t get my dosage of Viridi/Palutena roasting Chrom

 

[Opossum]

So, just got a Question for all of you, What's your Favorite Skin for your main/mains?

Mine is the Yellow Kirby for Kirby, Because It's a callback to Kirby's Dream Course, and who doesn't like playing as a bassically golden kirby?

For the characters I play the most (), I almost always use the default, but on occasion I use Fire Mario (RIP) and Hoodie Mac.

 

[Impa4Smash]

Not sure about you but one safe bet where a character is on the poster

I find it really hard to believe it's Pokémon trainer wario is spooked or scared from (possibly dedede as well

And charizard is definitely not after wario plus hard to believe wario would be scared of a ivysaur or squirtle besides he's not even looking at them

Characters get added to the picture confirmed from Ridley and daisy being added too it

So if I'm right who could be there.

King K Rool and his blunderbuss babyyyy

Me: Using the gaps in the poster to figure out newcomers is "Ridley in the Clouds/Shadowmath"-tier theorizing.

Also Me: There's a spot next to Robin that would fit Chrom. Two buddies hanging out.

People have theorized that Robin could be explaining spells to Ashley, since in WarioWare she's bad at spells

 

[Deleted member]

It's not even you specifically that has me confuzzled, my dude. You're fine.

It's mainly just because I see the "he's trolling", "he loves to troll" all over the internet and simply don't know where it started.

I mean sure, people thought he was trolling with Ridley, but that was to me entirely fan perception. If not wearing rose-tinted glasses at the time, it was obvious Ridley was a stage hazard. There was no trolling involved.

Ah, gotcha.
I've never really understood where it came from either. Pretty sure someone pointed out the only instance of him deliberately trolling was with Zero Suit Samus getting cut, so I used that as my example.
---
On a different note, I've been re-watching the character showcase trailers and I think I've figured something out about Dedede

Spoiler

Every character Dedede beats up is an anime swordsman. You know what that means, right?
Dedede hates anime.

 

[Iridium]

I like this. It has a strange but hilarious charm. It can also test your patience quite well!

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

Ah, gotcha.
I've never really understood where it came from either. Pretty sure someone pointed out the only instance of him deliberately trolling was with Zero Suit Samus getting cut, so I used that as my example.
---
On a different note, I've been re-watching the character showcase trailers and I think I've figured something out about Dedede

Spoiler

Every character Dedede beats up is an anime swordsman. You know what that means, right?
Dedede hates anime.

Nah. We just got so much animu in Smash.

 

[Deleted member]

Spoiler

Every character Dedede beats up is an anime swordsman. You know what that means, right?
Dedede hates anime.

That's odd considering he's one of the few characters that was actually in one.

 

[Deleted member]

That's odd considering he's one of the few characters that was actually in one.

I think he wants to forget about that

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8W02XMqKQ4U
Also i quickly put this together as a joke and i actually hate myself

 

[zeldasmash]

So, just got a Question for all of you, What's your Favorite Skin for your main/mains?

Mine is the Yellow Kirby for Kirby, Because It's a callback to Kirby's Dream Course, and who doesn't like playing as a bassically golden kirby?

: Regular attire, though I like Fierce Deity and Skylot color
: Regular attire, Gravity Suit, Light Suit and Dark Samus
: Regular attire, red color scheme and white/old color scheme
: Regular attire, fabulous Falcon and gold color scheme
: Regular or Shadow
: Red, Yellow or Black attire
: Regular or Regular Advent Children
: Regular attire or Hooded Mac
: Almost exclusively Chrom's color

 

[Iridium]

I like this. It has a strange but hilarious charm. It can also test your patience quite well!

There is also the "Everybody is here!" memes that never stop, which get me too!