Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Murlough]

I would like to see Aether Paradise. It would take place in the Conservation Area. That's where the Ultra Wormhole first appears and also where you first encounter Nihilego. I was thinking maybe the Ultra Wormhole would open in the background and a random Ultra Beast would come out and be a stage hazard and then return to the Ultra Wormhole.

Yeah, its just the Gen 6 League stage had me realize how much I despise single colored stages. Aether paradise is pretty much straight white. I didn't even like Pictochat or whatever that one battlefield variant was called.

EDIT: Using ultra wormholes sounds sick though.

 

[P.Kat]

A topic someone mentioned on Reddit:



If we get just one more third-party character, we could have a full 8-player Smash without any Nintendo characters.

Shantae, Sora, Amaterasu, and/or Blaze The Cat. Bring them home Sakurai

I hope the next batch of Smash news will include the return of the Fountain of Dreams.
I need to see it in HD

That's basically the only stage I want other than Pirate Ship just those two stages.

 

[Arcadenik]

Yeah, its just the Gen 6 League stage had me realize how much I despise single colored stages. Aether paradise is pretty much straight white. I didn't even like Pictochat or whatever that one battlefield variant was called.

EDIT: Using ultra wormholes sounds sick though.

LOL Yeah, good thing the Conservation Area is green and blue and white.

 

[Cosmic77]

We talking about stages?

Give me a modern Kirby stage please. It doesn't have to be fancy or anything. I just want to see modern Kirby get some love.

 

[Murlough]

LOL Yeah, good thing the Conservation Area is green and blue and white.

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O, yeah I assumed you meant Lusamine's dungeon thing.

 

[Zinith]

How about a Yoshi stage that's NOT the first level and just named after the title of the game for once.

 

[Jedisupersonic]

Tetris is a perfect.

A Tetris stage is long overdue.

Imagine Bowser, Kirby and Yoshi down b'ing with the blocks too, Doc on the side being like "this seems familiar..."

 

[Pacack]

QUESTION!

If Smash Ultimate gets a Flat Zone 3, What Game and Watch games would you like to see in it?

Personally, I'd go for a water theme.

Spoiler: Large images

Octopus:

Parachute:

Turtle Bridge:

Lifeboat:

Rain Shower:

Spider:

 

[Jedisupersonic]

How about a Yoshi stage that's NOT the first level and just named after the title of the game for once.

Did you say a gigantic cookie stage with the title of Yoshis Cookie, because that's what I'm hearing.

 

[monadoboy]

What do you think will be a series that won't get a character in Ultimate, but might get it stage and other things like items and trophies. In the past we had animal crossing, wrecking crew, and Tomodachi Life get stages, but no actual playable characters.

Style Savvy. Not that I care much about the series but it's one of Nintendo's oddest and could use some rep.

 

[Noipoi]

Ultra Space traveling stage please and thank you.

 

[Jedisupersonic]

Stages I've wanted most have been like

A Bowser airship level, it'd be a slow moving stage and it'd be based on one of the several Mario 3 airship stages or heck a rotation, cannonballs and everything.

Sky Sanctuary you could probably incorporate many aspects from the stage like the Death Egg being in the back, crumbling parts of the stage, although it might just turn into another Palutenas temple...

I could list some more but my break is almost over.

 

[Opossum]

Stages?

All I want is at least one more Fire Emblem stage based on a specific location. Arena Ferox was a breath of fresh air in this regard, as both Castle Siege and Coliseum (which, to make matters worse, Treehouse managed to misname...it should be called The Arena), are more of generic, reappearing concepts. Castle Siege is a generic castle fight and the Coliseum (which, as I said before, should've been called The Arena) is a general location that takes inspiration from several games. Notably the layout seems Shadow Dragon esque while the dragon calls to mind the GBA games.

The specificity is what makes Arena Ferox one of my favorite Smash stages ever.

Give me Duma Tower, a battle atop a massive, decrepit stairway as you fight off the gargoyles that swarm the stage.
Give me the Macedonian Aerie, the ominous and craggy clifftop citadel as Minerva and Michalis take to the skies to fight in the background.
Give me the sprawling desert oasis of Khadein, its academy looming in the background as Gharnef's mages affect the battle.
Give me Nifl, Heroes' kingdom of ice, as it is beset by Surtr.
Give me Awakening's climactic battle on the back of Grima.
Fog of War maps. Boat maps. The Battle of Belhalla. The Tower of Valni. Battle Before Dawn.
Hell, an Outrealm Gate stage that'd act as a touring stage would allow for several different locations.

The series just has so much stage potential for it to be stuck with mostly generic stages aside from Arena Ferox.

 

[Arcadenik]

He counts as a pokeball pokemon promoted to playable.

Meowth needs to be promoted to playable too.

 

[SlickWylde]

CHILDREN.

Hello, yes, I am very excited about Super Smash Bros. Ultimate. Inklings look dope af, and I'm regretting not trying them at E3. I got greedy and tried to win and picked Marth, lul.

Did you win, at least?

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Style Savvy. Not that I care much about the series but it's one of Nintendo's oddest and could use some rep.

They got a song or two...seems like that’s enough

Personally, I'd go for a water theme.

Spoiler: Large images

Octopus:

Parachute:

Turtle Bridge:

Lifeboat:

Rain Shower:

Spider:

Then we call Flat Zone 3...Ultimate Flat Zone/Flat Zone Ultimate

Did you guys notice that in the website, in the Mii Fighters video and pics, you can see Mii Brawler doing multiple specials?
Like multiple Up Specials and Down Specials, like that Feint Jump and Head-On Assault, or Piston Punch and Soaring Axe Kick.

They didn't lose Custom Moves... I hope they are the only ones with Customs tbh, doing Customs for all the characters would be a massive waste of time.

also

Don't want Windy Hill to come back. A stage from Forces would be far better.

Speaking of stages, I know it's part of the whole bringing everything back, but they really didn't have to bring back all the stages, especially one's that can, more or less, be recreated in Stage Builder, like Kongo Jungle

imma have to fight you

 

[PlayerOneTyler]

Did you win, at least?

No because everyone else picked Marth and Ike and it was confusing af. hahaha.

 

[PeridotGX]

What do you think will be a series that won't get a character in Ultimate, but might get it stage and other things like items and trophies. In the past we had animal crossing, wrecking crew, and Tomodachi Life get stages, but no actual playable characters.

Even if we don't get an Arms Rep in the base game, I feel like we're going to get something. Same with Snipperclips.

 

[Souless_shadow]

Even if we don't get a Rhythm Heaven rep this game, I think it at least deserves a stage, if not only for the sweet sweet music that can come from the RH series

 

[Omega Tyrant]

I mean to be fair James Bond was planned for smash at one point in time.

He wasn't planned, he was just briefly considered for Melee and the idea was quickly dropped because of primarily relying on realisitc firearms, and more important to the Goku conversation, the licensing nightmare to get him. From what Sakurai said about him, he was never a serious candidate.

 

[Dandelionel]

What do you think will be a series that won't get a character in Ultimate, but might get it stage and other things like items and trophies. In the past we had animal crossing, wrecking crew, and Tomodachi Life get stages, but no actual playable characters.

Fatal Frame, sadly. It's one of the few series that REALLY needs the Smash boost to its sales.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Don't want Windy Hill to come back. A stage from Forces would be far better.

Frankly, I feel that Sonic Forces was too much of a disappointment to even get a stage.

 

[EchoAegis]

He wasn't planned, he was just briefly considered for Melee and the idea was quickly dropped because of primarily relying on realistic firearms, and more important to the Goku conversation, the licensing nightmare to get him. From what Sakurai said about him, he was never a serious candidate.

Thank you, someone, finally said this. I've seen the James bond thing topic always and everytime It gets on my nerves.

 

[Enchess]

Fatal Frame, sadly. It's one of the few series that REALLY needs the Smash boost to its sales.

A Fatal Frame character makes it into my top 5 most wanted pre-E3 (1. Ridley, 2. K Rool, 3. Isaac, 4. FF rep, 5. Xenoblade rep), but I'd be thrilled to get anything more than a trophy. The FF support thread brought up the idea of the Camera Obscura an item, possibly doing minor damage normally but major damage and knockback if used with perfect shield timing. I can also see a lot potential for cool stages. Or at least a song in Luigi's Mansion....

 

[Honest Slug]

I don't think Sonic needs another stage. Green Hill and Windy Hill are good enough imo.

I really want to see Fountain of Dreams and Paper Mario come back sometime too.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

Meowth needs to be promoted to playable too.

I like Eevee and it's cute, but it's always been strange to me that Gamefreak never tried to really turn Meowth into a mascot of the Pokemon franchise like it is Eevee now.

It's always been a prominent breakout of the anime and one of the original 151 even the most casual of Pokemon fans knows.

It's also a cat, so like? Everyone loves cats/kitties.

It always seemed like a missed opportunity to have never pushed it further than they did.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Frankly, I feel that Sonic Forces was too much of a disappointment to even get a stage.

It was equal or atleast barely better than Lost World, so it atleast deserves to have “Fist Pump” and Infinite’s theme in the game

 

[CaptainAmerica]

What do you think will be a series that won't get a character in Ultimate, but might get it stage and other things like items and trophies. In the past we had animal crossing, wrecking crew, and Tomodachi Life get stages, but no actual playable characters.

Minecraft would make an awesome stage.

But the one I want most of all is Tetris. Ever since Brawl came with those awesome Tetris remixes, I've wanted a Tetris stage. It's always the first thing I do in Stage Builder. Picture it: it's a bucket so it's hard to get a KO any way other than straight up, so it takes thinking. The pieces come down and act as extra platforms, but it brings back crushing as a way to get KOs. Also, if the piece completes a line, the line will disappear just like in the game, with the added feature of causing high vertical knockback - more knockback for getting more lines. Thus, it's best to stand below a falling piece so you don't get knocked out, but be careful that it doesn't crush you!

Otherwise, I'd love something from Skyrim. The game was really important to advertising the Switch as a 'big boy' console, and Breath of the Wild plays a lot like Skyrim or other western RPGs. Of course playable Dovahkiin is #1, but bring on the Mii costume and some of Jeremy Soule's awesome soundtrack.

I would like trophies from a lot of different things. The Rayman trophy in the last game really made me think that we could get a lot of third party trophies from big-name games just as a quick references. I think any game that has any reference whatsoever in Smash should have at least one trophy to go with it, and that includes those obscure Japan-only games that have a music track on a random stage or Mii outfits from various third parties.

 

[SonicMario]

Frankly, I feel that Sonic Forces was too much of a disappointment to even get a stage.

I mean... Other M got a stage plus Samus' design is based on that game so...

 

[Arcadenik]

Don't want Windy Hill to come back. A stage from Forces would be far better.

Speaking of stages, I know it's part of the whole bringing everything back, but they really didn't have to bring back all the stages, especially one's that can, more or less, be recreated in Stage Builder, like Kongo Jungle

Cool. Personally I would like to see:

Chemical Plant Zone from Sonic the Hedgehog 2 or
Casino Night Zone from Sonic the Hedgehog 2 or
Angel Island Zone from Sonic the Hedgehog 3 or
Mushroom Hill Zone from Sonic & Knuckles or
Emerald Coast from Sonic Adventure

Other than Green Hill Zone, these levels are what come to my mind when I think about the levels in 1990s Sonic games.

I like Eevee and it's cute, but it's always been strange to me that Gamefreak never tried to really turn Meowth into a mascot of the Pokemon franchise like it is Eevee now.

It's always been a prominent breakout of the anime and one of the original 151 even the most casual of Pokemon fans knows.

It's also a cat, so like? Everyone loves cats/kitties.

It always seemed like a missed opportunity to have never pushed it further than they did.

I know, I know... and this gif pretty much sums Meowth's feelings.

Why indeed, Meowth? Could it be because of Pikachu? I mean, we just got a Pokémon game with a talking Pokémon but it is a talking Pikachu instead of a talking Meowth.

I am always rooting for the underdogs.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Chemical Plant Zone from Sonic the Hedgehog 2 or
Casino Night Zone from Sonic the Hedgehog 2 or

SO MUCH NOSTALGIA!

Sonic 2 was my first video game ever, and I remember getting my *** kicked in Chemical Plant over and over again. Or trying to play multiplayer mode by myself on Casino Night (the wonders of being an only child).

That's 90% of the reason I want Tails as a Sonic clone - I remember first being able to choose my character, and I always went for the fox instead of Sonic.

 

[DGAMER]

Sonic should get a stage outside of the Green Hill Type stages. It would allow them to be able to showcase some more variety of Sonic.
I would recommend Studiopolis from Mania, Tropical Resort from Colors, or even Chemical Plant from Sonic 2.

 

[SquashiniKun]

I hope we get Avenue Park from Forces or Studiopolis from Mania.

Mainly Avenue Park because that's the only way we'll ever get to hear Fist Bump in Smash Bros.

 

[Arcadenik]

That's 90% of the reason I want Tails as a Sonic clone - I remember first being able to choose my character, and I always went for the fox instead of Sonic.

Semi-clone of Sonic, right? Not an Echo Fighter. Because Tails needs to fly.

Just like Dixie Kong needs to float with her hair instead of being an Echo Fighter of Diddy Kong.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Semi-clone of Sonic, right? Not an Echo Fighter. Because Tails needs to fly.

Just like Dixie Kong needs to float with her hair instead of being an Echo Fighter of Diddy Kong.

That's always the way I pictured it. I like the idea of Tails having the spin attacks, but he's gotta have a float with the tails.

 

[WaddleMatt]

Give us some end game Kirby stages please. Hyper Zone with Dark Matter as a boss would be awesome.

 

[Brindor]

I like Eevee and it's cute, but it's always been strange to me that Gamefreak never tried to really turn Meowth into a mascot of the Pokemon franchise like it is Eevee now.

It's always been a prominent breakout of the anime and one of the original 151 even the most casual of Pokemon fans knows.

It's also a cat, so like? Everyone loves cats/kitties.

It always seemed like a missed opportunity to have never pushed it further than they did.

He's not as cute and cuddly as Pikachu and Eevee I think, and he feels like the runt of Pokémon
Sure he's a cat, but most of Eevee's evolution's look like cats too.
That's my guess anyway why they never pushed him that much.

 

[EchoAegis]

I mean... Other M got a stage plus Samus' design is based on that game so...

While true you can't really compare a first party to a third even if Sonic is popular as hell but please give Sonic a good stage for once I'm begging you, Sakurai,

 

[Sigran101]

I'm late but here's my prediction seven.
1. K Rool
2. Elma
3. Shadow (echo)
4. Impa (echo)
5. Retro pick (maybe Mach Rider)
6. Dixie Kong
7. Bandana Waddle Dee

BTW my wish list for this game is
1. Ridley
2. King K. Rool
3. Elma
4. Rex and Pyra
5. Edelgard (fe 3 houses)
6. Ray MK III
7. Joker

 

[MainJPW]

Semi-clone of Sonic, right? Not an Echo Fighter. Because Tails needs to fly.

Just like Dixie Kong needs to float with her hair instead of being an Echo Fighter of Diddy Kong.

That and he literally can’t use Sonic’s up throw.

That's always the way I pictured it. I like the idea of Tails having the spin attacks, but he's gotta have a float with the tails.

So you basically want Tails’ Sonic The Fighters moveset? You perfectly described Fighters Tails.