Hydrualic Hydra
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"I came out to generalize entire fanbases and I'm feeling so attacked right now."
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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion
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RetrogamerMax
Smash Legend
I saw the Mii costume as a solid deconfirmation as well. Man that really p****d me off at the time.
Nekoo
Smash Master
Yeah, that's how I got blocked yesterday.
DaybreakHorizon
Beauty in the Chaos
The **** did I miss and why is everyone mad this time?
amazonevan19
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NineS
Smash Lord
I'm beginning to feel as if saying "Corrin" triggers as many people as the word "Box".
I don't know how I feel about this over a character that frankly isn't as bad as people make out to be. Not to say he/she is all that great either, but Corrin is here to stay
Questioning their choices and thought process on the other hand is fine, but complaining about Corrin of all things now is like complaining about Ike having been put in Brawl.
Hydrualic Hydra
Smash Ace
Damn that was hilarious to watch. This place is hella entertaining sometimes.
osby
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Someone mentioned Corrin and it proved we matured considerably as a fandom over the course of last few years.
Androobie
Banned via Warnings
Can’t get attacked if you don’t say stupid **** and hate on beloved characters as well as their fanbases.
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StormC
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Considering Ultimate is adding the two biggest characters that were missing from Smash 4's roster... what does being mad about Fire Emblem solve now?
I prefer to not dwell on it. Corrin and Bayonetta may have been disappointing in December 2015, but a lot's changed in the last three years. (I'm also in a way better spot in my life than I was then, but that's neither here nor there).
I prefer to not dwell on it. Corrin and Bayonetta may have been disappointing in December 2015, but a lot's changed in the last three years. (I'm also in a way better spot in my life than I was then, but that's neither here nor there).
osby
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And hey, Bayonetta wasn't only hype for me... *cricket noises* ...right?
Salutations, friends, what's going on in this thread-
...I'll just come back in a couple weeks...
...I'll just come back in a couple weeks...
SuperSceptile15
Smash Lord
No it wasn't. Stop this conspiracy nonsense already. She won the Ballot fair and square. Please get over it.
PsychoIncarnate
The Eternal Will of the Swarm
Well, their fansbases are ****
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Nekoo
Smash Master
Everyone complain about Fire Emblem having 7 Characters , yet no one realize that they're missing someone in the roster the whole time and that they have 8 actually.
NineS
Smash Lord
I'm honestly pretty happy Bayonetta is in for a high number of reasons.
The only thing I've got against her is how she turned out, but it seems like she might be fixed this time around, so people might stop hating her sometime after the game comes out in a similar vein to Meta Knight and Brawl over to Sm4sh.
amazonevan19
Smash Ace
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That gif may be overused, but I can't help but like any post that uses it.Salutations, friends, what's going on in this thread-
...I'll just come back in a couple weeks...
Androobie
Banned via Warnings
And you are also ****, sir.
osby
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That's a good way to get a warning.
Nekoo
Smash Master
Don't give a bad image of the Geno fanbase as the Geno Thread Creator please and diehard fan.
Oh wait. He can't see my message.
amazonevan19
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Please let's keep it civil.
Seperate the ****ter from the **** opinion.
Psycho may be spewing **** rn but that doesn't mean he IS ****.
Polan
Smash Lord
there's a point where "stop posting" is good advice and this is it
Hydrualic Hydra
Smash Ace
I've never eyeballed the report button so intensely. I'll assume you're just in a bad mood tonight.
StormC
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Bayonetta was very popular on Tumblr, I can tell you that, looking at my feed during her announcement. People were really excited about her there and other sites. She resonated more with that sort of crowd, people who don't obsess over design documents and comb over every interview of Sakurai's.
I don't mind her being in the game, but it was the circumstances that rubbed me the wrong way about it. So it was a weird feeling overall. I don't know what I expected... just not her, I guess. I felt very blindsighted by it all. I was also bitter that the only Nintendo newcomer at the time was Corrin. But Bayonetta is a cool character and now with Bayonetta 3, is more-or-less a Nintendo character now, so I have no problems with her.
I also had no idea at the time we would get the next Smash within literally 3 years. That definitely changed a lot.
Things are much better now. All veterans are back, K. Ridley are in,
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Noipoi
Howdy!
I'm enjoying this.
I shouldn't, but I am.
I shouldn't, but I am.
CosmicQuark
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I think this popcorn is getting stale now. *spits it out*
Zinith
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Um...... do I need to bring up that crazy Yoshi image again? This is nuts
NineS
Smash Lord
Is it a sadistic or amusing type of enjoyment?
If so, I can see where you're coming from.
PsySmasher
Smash Hero
As a Corrin main, I do admit that he/she got in under... certain circumstances. I originally was against their inclusion because I was part of the "ugh another Fire Emblem character" mindset.
Did that stop me from playing the character though... No. I ended up buying Corrin because I found the concept of a half-human/half-dragon moveset interesting.
To this day Corrin is the only DLC character I've bought for Smash 4. They've convinced me to give Fire Emblem a try and, as of right now, Fire Emblem Heroes is my main Nintendo game.
Only playing characters you're familiar with kind of defeats the purpose of Smash. It's designed to bring all of these characters from gaming history together, some of which you may not like or know. Take that away however, and you lose a good portion of what makes Smash special.
Did that stop me from playing the character though... No. I ended up buying Corrin because I found the concept of a half-human/half-dragon moveset interesting.
To this day Corrin is the only DLC character I've bought for Smash 4. They've convinced me to give Fire Emblem a try and, as of right now, Fire Emblem Heroes is my main Nintendo game.
Only playing characters you're familiar with kind of defeats the purpose of Smash. It's designed to bring all of these characters from gaming history together, some of which you may not like or know. Take that away however, and you lose a good portion of what makes Smash special.
TreeBranch
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I'll take the rest if you're done
CosmicQuark
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Speaking for myself, a lot of times I try to inhibit my more schadenfreudian impulses. But, sometimes I just can't help myself.
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Hey everyone! How's it-
*sees nuclear war over Fire Emblem*
...Goddamnit, what the hell happened this time?
*sees nuclear war over Fire Emblem*
...Goddamnit, what the hell happened this time?
Shroob
Sup?
So explain why dataminers found a ZSS model in the DLC files.
She didn't win, there's no conspiracy here, we have the fact that they were using ZSS as a base for something in her slot.
amazonevan19
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I'm having way too much fun ****posting to high heaven and watching the show
But can we please not have this thread nuked because a few of you can't debate without resorting to insults?
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To help calm everyone down, here's Marina with an accordion:
This individual seems to be trying to get a rise out of people. Replying only gives 'em what they want. I'd reccomend agreeing to disagree and moving on, but that's just me.
This individual seems to be trying to get a rise out of people. Replying only gives 'em what they want. I'd reccomend agreeing to disagree and moving on, but that's just me.
StormC
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Corrin is honestly the only DLC character I regret buying, especially now with Ultimate. Not because of my opinion on the character and their inclusion... but because I played them maybe 5 times tops. I dunno, they just didn't click with me. I wish there was a way to demo DLC characters before buying them.
NineS
Smash Lord
Someone mentioned Corrin, then people got triggered, then we got into a whole argument with PsychoIncarnate about fanbases.
Ring-a-Sheep
Smash Ace
I would advise that you just stop posting right now.
And to ease the tension of the thread, heres some smooth elevator music
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Cutie Gwen
Lovely warrior
I'm gonna do something I don't think anyone here has speculated about yet, the CastleVania songs. We have a full list, but what versions of the songs are they and could they be remixed? I found out Harmony of Despair actually remixed a significant amount of the themes present which explains most of the choices and in hindsight makes me glad we didn't get Crazed In a Luminous Mansion It's a large list so it goes in a spoiler tag
This means at least 13 remixes assuming the Harmony of Despair predictions are correct. It explains the music choices for the rest and it's popularity with the composers. Has any other franchise even gotten 13 or so remixes in a single game? CastleVania was explicitly said to be popular among the sound team and goddamn it shows
Vampire Killer - Judgement 's remix as heard in the Simon trailer
Vampire Killer (New Remix) - As the name says, it's new, and we can hear it when greeted by Sakurai in the direct and in Simon's website trailee
Starker/Wicked Child - Most likely remix of both of the original's songs
Out of Time - A new remix as we can hear during the Dracula's Castle segment in the Direct
Nothing To Lose - Re-used from Harmony of Despair as heard in the trailer and Dracula segment in the direct
Black Night - We BARELY hear a snippet of it before the Direct transitions to Alucard but I assume it's from The Arcade judging by the guitar
Bloody Tears/Monster Mash - New, as heard on the site
Dwelling of Doom - Likely a new remix
Cross Your Heart - Most likely a new remix, but may take notes (hehe) from the Portrait of Ruin version
Can't Wait Until Midnight - I believe this will be Harmony of Despair's Heart of Fire remix, the Aria of Sorrow boss fight against Julius Belmont uses a remix of both Can't Wait Until Midnight and Heart of Fire
Beginning - Likely a new remix
Mad Forest - Likely new
Aquarius - Possibly the Harmony of Despair remix (I'll start shortening it to HoD now)
Simon Belmont Theme - Either a new remix or HoD's
Simon Belmont Theme (The Arcade) - As the name suggests, from Castlevania The Arcade
Divine Bloodlines - As heard from Richter's segment of the trailer and his website video, a new remix
Slash - Likely HoD, though possibly the original considering Rondo of Blood's music quality
Dance of Illusions - Same as Slash, it got remixed in HoD but Rondo of Blood's music quality means we might get the original
Iron Blue Intentions - Likely a new remix
Dracula's Castle - I can't hear it well enough to tell, but it might be HoD's version as heard in the Alucard segment
Lost Painting - Likely the original considering the song's atmosphere and SotN being a PS1 game
The Tragic Prince - Same as Lost Painting
Awake - New remix as it's from Circle of the Moon, a GBA game
Ruined Castle Gallery - HoD includes this and just like Smash, it's the only original Aria of Sorrow song to get featured
Lament of Innocence - Original, it's a ps2 song
Jet Black Incursion - Likely HoD's albeit under a different name
Crash in the Dark Night - Likely HoD's but again under a slightly different name
Ripped Silence - Likely HoD's remix, but with a different name again
Hail to the Past - HoD's remix
Jail of Jewel - Most likely a brand new remix
Twilight Stigmata - Considering it's basically the same song as An Empty Tome, even in Order of Ecclesia version as the version used for the intro may have good quality but was specifically for the intro judging by it's shorter length, an ending that means a slight edit being necessary and the fact HoD remixed it
Jet Black Wings - HoD
Go! Getsu Fuma! - HoD
Vampire Killer (New Remix) - As the name says, it's new, and we can hear it when greeted by Sakurai in the direct and in Simon's website trailee
Starker/Wicked Child - Most likely remix of both of the original's songs
Out of Time - A new remix as we can hear during the Dracula's Castle segment in the Direct
Nothing To Lose - Re-used from Harmony of Despair as heard in the trailer and Dracula segment in the direct
Black Night - We BARELY hear a snippet of it before the Direct transitions to Alucard but I assume it's from The Arcade judging by the guitar
Bloody Tears/Monster Mash - New, as heard on the site
Dwelling of Doom - Likely a new remix
Cross Your Heart - Most likely a new remix, but may take notes (hehe) from the Portrait of Ruin version
Can't Wait Until Midnight - I believe this will be Harmony of Despair's Heart of Fire remix, the Aria of Sorrow boss fight against Julius Belmont uses a remix of both Can't Wait Until Midnight and Heart of Fire
Beginning - Likely a new remix
Mad Forest - Likely new
Aquarius - Possibly the Harmony of Despair remix (I'll start shortening it to HoD now)
Simon Belmont Theme - Either a new remix or HoD's
Simon Belmont Theme (The Arcade) - As the name suggests, from Castlevania The Arcade
Divine Bloodlines - As heard from Richter's segment of the trailer and his website video, a new remix
Slash - Likely HoD, though possibly the original considering Rondo of Blood's music quality
Dance of Illusions - Same as Slash, it got remixed in HoD but Rondo of Blood's music quality means we might get the original
Iron Blue Intentions - Likely a new remix
Dracula's Castle - I can't hear it well enough to tell, but it might be HoD's version as heard in the Alucard segment
Lost Painting - Likely the original considering the song's atmosphere and SotN being a PS1 game
The Tragic Prince - Same as Lost Painting
Awake - New remix as it's from Circle of the Moon, a GBA game
Ruined Castle Gallery - HoD includes this and just like Smash, it's the only original Aria of Sorrow song to get featured
Lament of Innocence - Original, it's a ps2 song
Jet Black Incursion - Likely HoD's albeit under a different name
Crash in the Dark Night - Likely HoD's but again under a slightly different name
Ripped Silence - Likely HoD's remix, but with a different name again
Hail to the Past - HoD's remix
Jail of Jewel - Most likely a brand new remix
Twilight Stigmata - Considering it's basically the same song as An Empty Tome, even in Order of Ecclesia version as the version used for the intro may have good quality but was specifically for the intro judging by it's shorter length, an ending that means a slight edit being necessary and the fact HoD remixed it
Jet Black Wings - HoD
Go! Getsu Fuma! - HoD
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StormC
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I can definitely believe Bayonetta was top 5 in the US.
Top 1 in Europe is just genuinely very hard to believe. I guess it's possible... we don't know much about Europe polling. It's just one of those things like if you told me the sky was green, but I couldn't go out and look at the sky to confirm for myself, I would treat with heavy skepticism.
Part of me wonders if it would have been easier to pass off Cloud as the "ballot winner" even if Bayonetta objectively got more votes.
Top 1 in Europe is just genuinely very hard to believe. I guess it's possible... we don't know much about Europe polling. It's just one of those things like if you told me the sky was green, but I couldn't go out and look at the sky to confirm for myself, I would treat with heavy skepticism.
Part of me wonders if it would have been easier to pass off Cloud as the "ballot winner" even if Bayonetta objectively got more votes.
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