Smash Bros: Mugen Brawl - A Brawl With Them All

[Oni K4ge]

Oni, I've looked at that thread and we'd love to have your help for this.

Really? Sweet, I'm in! ^_^
Well, imo, I think Mario should be either Dr Mario or ASM Mario, since this is "Mugen" and Mugen is entirely different characters. Or am I taking the title too seriously?

 

[Sovereign]

Really? Sweet, I'm in! ^_^
Well, imo, I think Mario should be either Dr Mario or ASM Mario, since this is "Mugen" and Mugen is entirely different characters. Or am I taking the title too seriously?

Too seriously.

Anything that would make a character's gameplay and style change severely would make them a new character. If we do Doc, he should have (a) new move(s) to show his change since Melee.

I still prefer Phoenix Mario(with Flamethrower FLUDD) so that he compliments Lightning Luigi(not voted in yet).

 

[krazyzyko]

Raichu=A stronger but slower Pika
Mallow(super Mario RPG)=kirby with longer range.
Olimar= Toad with mutant veggies! (or Ness maybe, Or the cute little Chaos from Sonic)
Hulk=DK
Spiderman= A faster and stronger Shiek (spider web sound for the chain and needles)
Cupid= a gayer Pit with Peach-like heart moves.

 

[GHNeko]

I'm totally working with Eldrian on a PSA character. I wish I could reserve a spot though. >:

 

[JOE!]

a gayer Pit .

sorry, not possible

 

[Sovereign]

I'm totally working with Eldrian on a PSA character. I wish I could reserve a spot though. >:

Who would the reservation be for?

Time is on your side to get your PSA balanced and popular, before voting. I'm curious as to who, though.

EDIT: It seems like Phoenix Mario has this in the bag. I'll give the poll voting one more day, and our mugen character for Mario will be placed, and balancing for that character should begin promptly.

 

[GHNeko]

I wanna keep who the PSA character is a secret, and I want to drop as little hints as possible. If you need to know, PM me, but promise to keep it secret. <3

 

[Sovereign]

I promise.

Let's begin pushing out nominees for the following:





My nominees:
- Lightning Luigi
- Rosalina or Daisy
- Blastoise or Godzilla or Koopa Kid(size mod)

 

[Fusion_Blastoise]

Yup, here are the character suggestions for Luigi:

- Lightning Luigi It's like this but balanced...
- Mr. L Just about to try this guy out... not sure what's changed yet
- Green Thunder Luigi I'll reserve judement on this one. It seems ok, but broken


As for Peach....

- Hearts of Justice Peach Yeah, this is ok I 'spose...
- Rachel This seems like the one most people will vote for... I think she's ok...


And now we get to the Bowser submissions:

- Giga Kooplus I like him ^_^


Yeah, these are just my suggestions...

I'd really love to see a Rosalina/Daisy PSA hack. As would I a Blastoise/Koopa Kid PSA hack. If anyone knows of these being made, please post links to them

 

[MK26]

yeah, it'll probably end up being lightning weegee/rachel/giga kooplus in the end

 

[Fusion_Blastoise]

yeah, it'll probably end up being lightning weegee/rachel/giga kooplus in the end

Yeah probably, but Mr.L was fun too. I think I may just vote for him.

 

[Sovereign]

Kyzon said he was going to do Blastoise, and I suggested he do it over Bowser.

Although the PSA character hasn't been made, doesn't mean they can't be voted in.

 

[Fusion_Blastoise]

Kyzon said he was going to do Blastoise, and I suggested he do it over Bowser.

Although the PSA character hasn't been made, doesn't mean they can't be voted in.

That's great In that case I can't wait to see the Blastoise bowser XD

 

[Sovereign]

OniKage, can you do a model hack on Ganon, and make him similar to Melee Ganon in every form and fashion, like you did Roy for Marth? I'm just askin' what some Melee Ganon fans might be thinking... including myself. If you can it would be awesome to see.

 

[Oni K4ge]

OniKage, can you do a model hack on Ganon, and make him similar to Melee Ganon in every form and fashion, like you did Roy for Marth? I'm just askin' what some Melee Ganon fans might be thinking... including myself. If you can it would be awesome to see.

(Replying to last comment) ah, too serious lol ok. Yeah then Id say Phoenix Mario. Idk about the fludd tho, but then the normal phoenix mario has no sfx for his B-Down... tho this can easily be changed...

(replying to quoted comment) Hmm... ah...
Well, I'd love to. But I really don't know what I'd change X_X I mean, textures exist that remove the beard, and I can't edit parts of the head, only the head as a whole. Otherwise, Marth- er, Roy, would have better hair So maybe I can bring up a picture of em' both side by side, melee and brawl ganon, and see if he needs height changes and such, but I can of course look deeper into it. I've always perfered his Melee look, hell, even his voice, over the brawl ganon... Though, what Id like to see is a OoT ganon final smash texture. Or maybe a OoT Ganon Giga Bowser, I don't know, I'm not the best at making textures from scratch... (see my Elderly Kirby- wait, no, that one's awesome nvm). Anyway, my answer is I'll see what I can do.

 

[Sovereign]

(Replying to last comment) ah, too serious lol ok. Yeah then Id say Phoenix Mario. Idk about the fludd tho, but then the normal phoenix mario has no sfx for his B-Down... tho this can easily be changed...

(replying to quoted comment) Hmm... ah...
Well, I'd love to. But I really don't know what I'd change X_X I mean, textures exist that remove the beard, and I can't edit parts of the head, only the head as a whole. Otherwise, Marth- er, Roy, would have better hair So maybe I can bring up a picture of em' both side by side, melee and brawl ganon, and see if he needs height changes and such, but I can of course look deeper into it. I've always perfered his Melee look, hell, even his voice, over the brawl ganon... Though, what Id like to see is a OoT ganon final smash texture. Or maybe a OoT Ganon Giga Bowser, I don't know, I'm not the best at making textures from scratch... (see my Elderly Kirby- wait, no, that one's awesome nvm). Anyway, my answer is I'll see what I can do.

All right. Thanks a bunch. Can't wait to see what you come up with.

EDIT: Phoenix Mario w/ Flamethrower FLUDD is apparently the winner as the mugen character that will replace Mario. He must be balanced from his broken ways. The poll for Luigi will begin soon.

So far there is:

Lightning Luigi
Mr. L
Green Thunder Luigi
Waluigi(?)

I'll let Fusion Blastoise make the poll for it.

 

[Kyzon Xin]

i'm gona put a hold on project Xin and start Blastoise on thursday..

 

[Sovereign]

i'm gona put a hold on project Xin and start Blastoise on thursday..

That would be the best, since Bowser's voting session will be approaching soon after Peach and Luigi.

You should get with OniKage, and see what he can do about Bowser's spikes, and see if he can remove all but two, or something that can make Hydro Pump more Blastoise-like.

 

[Kyzon Xin]

i think i've come up with a conclusion for the spikes..
it depends on if they look all weird transparent tho

 

[Sovereign]

Well try it and see what you get.

Idea: Do you guys think we should remove PT from the roster, which would in turn make 3 individual PSAs from the Pokémon team? I actually prefer this method, if possible.

 

[Kyzon Xin]

yea i think we should do that... hmm it seems textures will need to be made for bowser.. i went throught all of his animations and nothing has the spikes omitted

 

[Sovereign]

Lol, I wonder if you could attach two Cracker Launchers to Bowser's back? It would equal Blastoise all the way.

 

[smashbro29]

I have a pretty cool idea for this, why not compete to make the most broken character out there BUT you'd be limited somehow (maybe points or something I don't know) and the creators would play matches to se who did it best.

Ok, maybe it's not ideal for competitive play but it's be interesting if a good points system were put in.

 

[Fusion_Blastoise]

Idea: Do you guys think we should remove PT from the roster, which would in turn make 3 individual PSAs from the Pokémon team? I actually prefer this method, if possible.

The only problem with this is that as of now the PT's files can't be edited in PSA... it really sucks I know.


Alos, the Luigi poll is created:

Click here to vote on the character to replace Luigi in Mugen Brawl.

 

[Sovereign]

Thanks Fusion, and too bad about PT. I suppose we'll disregard them and remove them altogether, changing the CSS format.

Hmm... are the Alloys able to be changed through PSA? If so, are we able to add character select blocks for them or does it have to be a certain button input?

I think we could make the alloys balanced with standard attacks, and could increase their weight and jumping, slightly.

 

[Fusion_Blastoise]

Thanks Fusion, and too bad about PT. I suppose we'll disregard them and remove them altogether, changing the CSS format.

Hmm... are the Alloys able to be changed through PSA? If so, are we able to add character select blocks for them or does it have to be a certain button input?

I think we could make the alloys balanced with standard attacks, and could increase their weight and jumping, slightly.

As of yet, the alloys can not:

- Grab ledges
- Use Specials
- Grab People


All these make the alloys unviable in most aspects. There is however if my memory serves correect, a project currently going on to mae the alloys viable characters. I think they just may have discovered a way to allow alloys to grab the ledge.

 

[Sovereign]

As of yet, the alloys can not:

- Grab ledges
- Use Specials
- Grab People


All these make the alloys unviable in most aspects. There is however if my memory serves correect, a project currently going on to mae the alloys viable characters. I think they just may have discovered a way to allow alloys to grab the ledge.

They can grab people, which is more than half the reason I lose to them in Cruel Brawl, lol.

They don't need specials to be viable, they only need shields, ledge grabbing, and their standard attacks. Mods from that point on will make them viable.

 

[Sovereign]

The only problem with this is that as of now the PT's files can't be edited in PSA... it really sucks I know.


Alos, the Luigi poll is created:

Click here to vote on the character to replace Luigi in Mugen Brawl.

The tie has to be broken so we can move on to Peach. We must keep this alive.

How's Blatoise coming Kyzon?

 

[MK26]

but doesnt lightning = thunder ?

 

[Sovereign]

but doesnt lightning = thunder ?

No... Thunder is the sound of air clapping back together at high speeds, after lightning has cut the air through the path it took to strike the ground. Thunder is near immediately after lightning, but there's a difference.

L. Luigi and G.T. Luigi are different.

 

[Kyzon Xin]

The tie has to be broken so we can move on to Peach. We must keep this alive.

How's Blatoise coming Kyzon?

blastoise is coming along fine right now..
i'm testing things out with him and i've been researching him (watching anime and playing Pbr) so he should be playable by the time mario and luigi are balanced

 

[Sovereign]

Okay, cool.

All right everyone. The poll for Luigi's PSA character has been closed, and the winner is Green Thunder Luigi.

Now I need Fusion Blastoise to get the next poll for Peach up.

 

[Fusion_Blastoise]

Sorry, I'm doing so right now. My internet has capped and is running slow...

I'll edit this post with the poll when I've done it.

EDIT:

Here is the Peach Poll

 

[.Fade]

I'm not quite sure what Daisy and Rosalina can do -.- Has someone made a PSA of them?

 

[Sovereign]

I'm not quite sure what Daisy and Rosalina can do -.- Has someone made a PSA of them?

Movesets can be made afterward. It's about who you want in MBrawl, hence the voting.

 

[Eldiran]

Curious; are these voting decisions supposed to be permanent, or will they be subject to change when new PSAs are released?

 

[Naucitos]

I unfortunately have significant doubts about you being able to balance this well

 

[MK26]

Who needs Mugen Brawl when we have a clone engine now?

 

[cookieM0Nster]

Oh, kinda unrelated, but what Bowser movesets are gonna be in the Bowser poll? Because if Giga Kooplus isn''t in there, I'm going to shoot someone.

 

[Sovereign]

Curious; are these voting decisions supposed to be permanent, or will they be subject to change when new PSAs are released?

I think it would be best to leave the option to change PSA's open-ended, but we should have a closed set, if we want to make this competitive.

Oh, kinda unrelated, but what Bowser movesets are gonna be in the Bowser poll? Because if Giga Kooplus isn''t in there, I'm going to shoot someone.

Giga Kooplus is going to be in the poll. Any variations people have of him or want of him will be in the poll.

@ Clone engine remark: Umm... that makes this all the better?