ZMan
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I think Lucas is #4
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Smash Back Room Weekly Character Discussions! FINAL UPDATES: Ness + Lucas. All done!!
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SamuraiPanda
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Fixed the first post.
abit_rusty
Smash Lord
I'd be kinda disappointed if it isn't Snake..sorta looking forward to broom insight :/
Illussionary
Smash Journeyman
Snake would be a logical choice for next SBR Analysis, but is his recovery really that Gimpable? I think that the next choice could quite possibly be Link. He overs a different unique playstyle that is far more defensive then most. Link has some pretty good mindgames, but even though with a timed second jump and Up+B recovery it can be good it is also easily gimpable. Link also has a great Long range game with arrows, bombs, and boomerangs.
But yeah its still might Snake, but it might be Link.
But yeah its still might Snake, but it might be Link.
Sonic The Hedgedawg
Smash Hero
link is rather poor overall. so I'm not getting the feeing it's him since there are some charcters that he just won't do well against, and the first post suggests that's not the case for this character.... also... his recovery is just bad
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Snake's recovery is rather gimpable because he can't autograb the ledge, and because his Up-B isn't actually an attack that can reliably deter ledgeguarders by itself. That actually sucks a lot more than people let on (not just because of the Cypher grab). This is why Snake never does well when he's forced to recover from below stage. His recovery also happens to be the worst in the game against Pikachu.
Link's recovery always sucks though. Poor distance, and fast fall speed limits his options a lot.
Trillion
Smash Ace
Link or Samus will be next
itsthebigfoot
Smash Lord
snakes recovery is horrible, futile just ***** dsf at a tournament, came out of the losers bracket and won 6-0 by abusing it with warios bite. anyone with good aerials can **** it cause the cypher basically holds him still for you so you can beat on him. dk can actually carry to dthrow them off the ledge and its almost a guarenteed spike
definitely snake or pit
definitely snake or pit
abit_rusty
Smash Lord
If Snake is coming from below all you have to do is footstool the cypher and he loses his up+b just like that.
Browny
Smash Hater
:O
/me inscribes this information onto the back of my hand with a razor
/me inscribes this information onto the back of my hand with a razor
abit_rusty
Smash Lord
It's basically why every Snake tries to recover up high, which then again jeopardizes him still since he's a sitting duck in the air.
/exposeweakness
>.>
Illussionary
Smash Journeyman
I usually do the infinite cypher technique with C4's to stay in the air.
everlasting yayuhzz
Smash Champion
Shhhhhhhhhhhh. Don't expose all of our shortcomings. :/
aznxk3vi17
Smash Cadet
This. People think that the Up+B mechanics of Snake (and other similar characters) balances him, but it really doesn't.
itsthebigfoot
Smash Lord
not soon, mk has a counter, not saying who...
aznxk3vi17
Smash Cadet
Counterpick ftw?
itsthebigfoot
Smash Lord
yes, ftw
unfortunately metaknights counter has a counter named dedede that completely destroys him with infinites
unfortunately metaknights counter has a counter named dedede that completely destroys him with infinites
aids514
Smash Cadet
Next is definitely Snake.
ShadowLink84
Smash Hero
Don't rely on early tournaments.
Give brawl another 2 months or so things may change.
Not saying Snake isn't awesome but to look at everything and take it with a grain of salt.
aznxk3vi17
Smash Cadet
Now, I wasn't around when Melee first came out, but I'm pretty sure that early tier lists had Sheik in the top, and never strayed far from it since.
ShadowLink84
Smash Hero
To what I have heard Marth had also been placed below high in the early days.
As I said a little salt, that way no one is surprised or disappointed.
Renufus
Smash Apprentice
Brawl is nothing like melee, where a new AT could come out and completely change the dynamics of the game. Some characters are better than others. Some characters are MUCH better than others. This is simply the way it is, like it or lump it. Characters who dominate tournaments now (and we all know who they are) will still be dominating in a year.
itsthebigfoot
Smash Lord
no, they keep finding new and better ways to play against snakes, for all we know in a year the top 3 could be rob, dk, and peach
aznxk3vi17
Smash Cadet
Pray tell, what are these new and better ways? A solid Snake's (pardon the pun) defense is nearly impenetrable. What exactly can you do to get around the minefield of grenades, mortars, and C4? Jump in and air dodge? Spot dodge? Oh look, he just dash attacked through you and is on the other side of the stage, while you just did 0 damage to him and at the same time, took 30-50% damage from the explosives you failed to dodge.
I might be bitter, because I really hate fighting Snake, but honestly, I don't see what new and better ways will be found.
I might be bitter, because I really hate fighting Snake, but honestly, I don't see what new and better ways will be found.
Valzek
Smash Rookie
Where is #4?
OmniOstrich
Smash Lord
Pretty sure its Pit...sorry for not reading other posts.
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SamuraiPanda
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Seems like a ton of people were right about Ekans Snake being next. I should make the next hint harder. Speaking of hints, I don't know when the next hint will be up, so don't bother asking :D
Illussionary
Smash Journeyman
Samurai I think there is an Type-o in the title isn't this update #4? Or did reminder count as an update?
itsthebigfoot
Smash Lord
my bets for the next one are either rob or wario, overswarm loves rob, and wario is interesting (and good) enough to be one of the first discussed, especially after futile ended dsfs streak
SamuraiPanda
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ROFL at people already guessing for next week. Just so you know, Overswarm has picked every single character we've discussed thus far. If he wanted to talk about a specific character pretty bad, I'm sure that character would've popped up pretty early on :D
TKD+ITA+Mar=
Smash Ace
I have no idea, so I am just going to say Marth, because that's who I want it to be.
Valzek
Smash Rookie
Marth... Marth?? MAAAARTH!!!
wazgood
Smash Ace
im gonna go ahead and say captain falcon
itsthebigfoot
Smash Lord
clearly its ness, I mean, come on, he's top tier, you know it
abit_rusty
Smash Lord
Told you so.
I speculate DK. Or Ike *shudders at replies to discussion once moved to the Ike thread*
edit: Scratch that. It's going to be ROB lol.
I speculate DK. Or Ike *shudders at replies to discussion once moved to the Ike thread*
edit: Scratch that. It's going to be ROB lol.
keeper
Smash Champion
Snake, as oddly as it sounds, becomes very predictable after playing for at least two rounds, at least a specific Snake user does. His Dash to Usmash thing is easily shielded (and with characters such as Olimar, easy to grab) and as it says hard to space. That and I have yet to fight someone extremely good with grenades, though his C4 has a surprising amount of kill power and the Utilt has its magical hit-box. Snake is a very versatile and good character as of right now.