Druggedfox
Smash Champion
Above post is exactly what im saying. Except that the first 15 pages were somewhat intelligent, then all that stuff happened.
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Skill Levels; What do you guys think?? Rate 'em.
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MetaKnight'sSword
Smash Lord
Im just guessing that is what ppl do in Smash Bros.....Love the s/n by the way LMAO
vonfinell
Smash Apprentice
Now I can finally see my standing. I'm actually better than I thought. I'm at Above Average, and I've recently devoted myself to practicing Advanced Techs so that I can get higher ranked.
Druggedfox
Smash Champion
Wait, above average w/o doing more advanced techs? How does that work?
bjdavis420
Smash Journeyman
Haha, you have praticed avanced techs to get "higher ranked". JESUS CHRIST people, advanced techs mean NOTHING if you dont know how to use them in play. Congrats, you can sometimes wavedash,dash dance, maybe even do some pretty nifty edge play... against what, a level 1 computer, or maybe you are REALLY good and practice against a higher level computer...myabe even good enough to beat 2 LEVEL 9s.
Druggedfox
Smash Champion
Lol at ^^^ above post. Exactly. And actually, many good players prolly cant beat 3 lvl 9's if friendly fire is off XD SO that doesnt prove ****. Y do u think ken used to practice on level 1's if he didnt have any1 to play? Cuz Computers dont mean ****. Advanced play isnt as important as mastering some things against REAL LIFE PLAYERS!!!! N00BS!!!!!!!
Peace
Peace
HZ514
Smash Cadet
I can't argue with this at the worldwide level, since very good in that sense is much more than being very good in your local game. However, I actually do look at it from a local perspective, and I'm proud of being "Average" on this scale. I don't delve into the "advanced tactics" or "mindgames", not because I think they're "stupid glitches", but because I really don't feel the urge to spend the time necessary to get them. I do respect the people I meet who can pull those things off, but I would never want to be them.
(By the way, my friend, who does know how to do all that stuff, led me to these forums, so here I am. My first post. =D)
(By the way, my friend, who does know how to do all that stuff, led me to these forums, so here I am. My first post. =D)
brawlpro
Smash Master
Druggedfox
Smash Champion
xD forgot about that Brawlpro, i meant the peace outz thing XD. Also, tech skill without mindgames is useless. If u can shffl and then shine but they just wavedash back and forward smash... then your tech skill didnt do crap. And @ HZ514... if u dont do advanced tactics then how are u average player?
Peace
Peace
Imperial Wraith
Smash Journeyman
Lol your only "Average" when you learn to use advanced techs. Anyone who doesn't know how to use them are DEFINANTLY not Above Avarage.
brawlpro
Smash Master
@ drugged...i mostly trained on cpu's......well, i didn't turn out broken =P
-PM-
Smash Ace
i think i should just point out if you HAVE NOT BEEN TO A TOURNAMENT DONT EVEN RANK YOUR SELF
thats all
thats all
brawlpro
Smash Master
that has been said 100 times tho...and imo that saying is wrong...
Be realistic.
Amazing
You place top 8 in a major tournament.
Good
You make it out of pools in a major tournament.
Mediocre
You end up getting eliminated somewhere in pools.
Bad
You tie for last in pools.
Didn't go to tournament
Screenshots or it didn't happen. There is no objective criteria to rank yourself.
Amazing
You place top 8 in a major tournament.
Good
You make it out of pools in a major tournament.
Mediocre
You end up getting eliminated somewhere in pools.
Bad
You tie for last in pools.
Didn't go to tournament
Screenshots or it didn't happen. There is no objective criteria to rank yourself.
MetaKnight'sSword
Smash Lord
I'd prbably be a Mediocre XDD..
off topic: ..hey yur s/n seems familiar.....where did u find your screenname????
brawlpro
Smash Master
ok, then in the title put in Tournament Skill Levels!!! Rate 'em!!!
HZ514
Smash Cadet
DruggedFox: Because it says Average players don't use advanced techs...lol.
I pointed that out like 6,000 times, you can't base yourself without any competitive knowledge
-PM-
Smash Ace
brawlpro
Smash Master
i don't have competitive knowledge
smashfests is where i go, i have church on sundays when tournies happen
smashfests is where i go, i have church on sundays when tournies happen
I dislike this immensely, because parts of it are patently unreal;
n00bs as he describes would be 4 stocked by anyone fairly good.
novices are accurate
I'd say average should be "super novice" and that should extend until they gain some control over basic techs.
above average should be average, and that is when people get the techs somewhat down, and are comfortable with the character. This is when they start with mindgames, really.
Very Good should become above average. Above average is when you can incorperate advanced techs and mindgames. You can not only WD, but use it to cross people up.
Expert becomes very good. You finally have a chance to do well in tournies.
Pro stays the same, as does legend.
n00bs as he describes would be 4 stocked by anyone fairly good.
novices are accurate
I'd say average should be "super novice" and that should extend until they gain some control over basic techs.
above average should be average, and that is when people get the techs somewhat down, and are comfortable with the character. This is when they start with mindgames, really.
Very Good should become above average. Above average is when you can incorperate advanced techs and mindgames. You can not only WD, but use it to cross people up.
Expert becomes very good. You finally have a chance to do well in tournies.
Pro stays the same, as does legend.
Falco&Victory
Smash Champion
When Brawl comes out this thread will be super useful lol
but if you can't beat the average tourney go don't even try to rate yourself above average.
but if you can't beat the average tourney go don't even try to rate yourself above average.
bjdavis420
Smash Journeyman
Nothing every changes
bjdavis420
Smash Journeyman
Haha, no. People definitely improve. Im saying that nothing ever changes onthis thread. Someone says they are above average or pro or whatever, then talk about some of the advanced techs they are learning, then everyone flames them.
Yomi-no-Kuni
Smash Lord
saw this thread for the first time :D
pretty cool, but i dont think it applies to europe as much as it does for america
pretty cool, but i dont think it applies to europe as much as it does for america
NES n00b
Smash Master
Define average.
There is too muchbase in subjective when saying "average," "expert," "good." That goes for everyone.
There is too muchbase in subjective when saying "average," "expert," "good." That goes for everyone.
brawlpro
Smash Master
average = C
Druggedfox
Smash Champion
Lol at above post. Average is literally not a skill level. He is describing average as what he believes the median of the best and the worst would be. For example, if you took every player that actually knew what advanced techs were and lined them up from worst to best...the middle player would approxiamately what he described. I know that that is technically a mdeian, but its gernerally that.
If u want more exact, then rate every1 who knows what an advance tech from 1-10. 10 is like mew2king, 1 is like first time ever seeing/using a wavedash. If u took the average of all those numbers (i.e if there is 4,5,6,2,3... add them and divide by 5) then whoever is rated the number that is "average"is what an average player is.
This is y i laugh when i see every1 says they are above average or more, because if every1 is above average, then the qualifications for an average player become what is now posted as above average. An above average players should make mistakes technically less than 20% of the time, as well as use mindgames very well. Very good would be like mistakes technically less than 5-10% (based on what every1 agrees on), and your mindgames would be like, ZOMG I JUST GOT MINDGAMED!!!!!!!! Anything above that is just like 2% or less error, and you use mindgames like "eating and drinking" if not more common to you by then.
This is a very short summary to answer questions and create an opinion amongst every1 that we can discuss logically. BTW skill is not based off tournies, rankings lists are. If when Ken was still the best he went to less tournies, but could still beat any1... he'd be the "best" unofficially, but the rankings would put some1 else as best. So tournies are only for rankings lists, have nothing to do with skill. Though the person who does go to more tournies will end up better in the end. So you people who go to tournies, just know you are prolly better, and that you have more bragging rights, people who dont go to tournies, prove that you have beaten some1 on the skill level you describe yourself to be. If i didnt go to tournies, but i played even with the top 3-5 people in my state, just prove it and people accept that as you are good, but on rankings you cant be.
Peace OUTZ (the capital "outz" was for BrawlPro XD)
If u want more exact, then rate every1 who knows what an advance tech from 1-10. 10 is like mew2king, 1 is like first time ever seeing/using a wavedash. If u took the average of all those numbers (i.e if there is 4,5,6,2,3... add them and divide by 5) then whoever is rated the number that is "average"is what an average player is.
This is y i laugh when i see every1 says they are above average or more, because if every1 is above average, then the qualifications for an average player become what is now posted as above average. An above average players should make mistakes technically less than 20% of the time, as well as use mindgames very well. Very good would be like mistakes technically less than 5-10% (based on what every1 agrees on), and your mindgames would be like, ZOMG I JUST GOT MINDGAMED!!!!!!!! Anything above that is just like 2% or less error, and you use mindgames like "eating and drinking" if not more common to you by then.
This is a very short summary to answer questions and create an opinion amongst every1 that we can discuss logically. BTW skill is not based off tournies, rankings lists are. If when Ken was still the best he went to less tournies, but could still beat any1... he'd be the "best" unofficially, but the rankings would put some1 else as best. So tournies are only for rankings lists, have nothing to do with skill. Though the person who does go to more tournies will end up better in the end. So you people who go to tournies, just know you are prolly better, and that you have more bragging rights, people who dont go to tournies, prove that you have beaten some1 on the skill level you describe yourself to be. If i didnt go to tournies, but i played even with the top 3-5 people in my state, just prove it and people accept that as you are good, but on rankings you cant be.
Peace OUTZ (the capital "outz" was for BrawlPro XD)
Druggedfox
Smash Champion
HAHAHAHA. How can u get to expert and not like melee enough. Expert is like forward, dashizwiz, rob$, chillindude, and tink. So how would you get to that level of play and not like melee much?!?!?!
brawlpro
Smash Master
those guys are pros, better then experts dude.
Falco&Victory
Smash Champion
let old threads die in peace
The |Egg| Sniper
Smash Apprentice
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Where's the "Smacktard" Category? That should go before n00b n_n;
Druggedfox
Smash Champion
My bad. If that is the case, then expert is like Silent Wolf, Eggz, Gawes. You still are no where near those with how u described yourself lol. I'll let this thread die, but i would like it to stay because of post count XD.
Witchking_of_Angmar
Smash Lord
Hmm... going by this chart, my tech skill would be at "Expert" yet I am nowhere near the other things listed in that category. I haven't even played people that are at the same level as me, let alone better. Heck, I've never even played people that have SWF accounts. It's quite sad, actually.
I don't think it's very accurate....
I don't think it's very accurate....
Falco&Victory
Smash Champion
Someone on pro level can beat someone on expert level 99% of the time they play, same with expert to very good, and so on
Lol, I once 4 stocked some neighbor kids 1v3 with Boozer on FD, I must be LEGEND
Lol, I once 4 stocked some neighbor kids 1v3 with Boozer on FD, I must be LEGEND
igotHYRULEbannedatTOYWIZwitmarth
Smash Apprentice
I SUPPOSE that list kind of depicts how players..well play..but if you were going to simplify it down to levels then you need to add a few more in between:\]
Cort
Apple Head
There needs to be a cap for how long your name is on these boards. Desperately.
max32090
Smash Ace
i didnt know silent wolf is legendary