SpongeBathBill
Smash Ace
Matchup thread? I'm sorry, I didn't even notice it.
But thank you for being helpful in spite of my stupidity, kthx. ^_^
But thank you for being helpful in spite of my stupidity, kthx. ^_^
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Simple Questions & Answers Thread (READ FAQ in OP)
- Thread starter CELTiiC
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Ehkoes
Smash Rookie
i decided to pick up DK as a new main/secondary.........what's some of the first things I should work on?
daisho
Smash Lord
I would read all the guides and just figure out how to play.
In my opinion the most important things (in order of priority) are
Learning how to space B airs
Learning how to time the SA frames of DKs punch
Learning to DI well, momentum cancel and Up B break
Otherwise just keep playing and getting feedback (if you post in the "rate my DK" thread we will help you) and you are sure to get better!
In my opinion the most important things (in order of priority) are
Learning how to space B airs
Learning how to time the SA frames of DKs punch
Learning to DI well, momentum cancel and Up B break
Otherwise just keep playing and getting feedback (if you post in the "rate my DK" thread we will help you) and you are sure to get better!
itsthebigfoot
Smash Lord
space tilts/bairs, work on your di for both getting out of combos and surviving until forever, and learn to time punch/upb SA
smashkng
Smash Lord
Is the smasher "Bum" of Brawl the same as" Bum" of Melee?
ook
Smash Lord
I assume so....
Yes, he is the same person.
CELTiiC
Dong 2 Strong
That was the random lol, i got a question. Is it neccesary to learn GFSC combo.
daisho
Smash Lord
Certainly not necesarry, nobody actually uses it in tourney matches (except maybe one european DK). But I think it would greatly benefit whoever did, and in an inf banned world DK could be A tier if he used it.
When fighting against Falco, I would get CG'd and spiked, as expected. But for some reason I can never recover from this. As in, my jump would not work. I would spam my jump constantly but get nothing out of it, yet I hear DK mains saying to save the jump after when you get spiked, but there has to be something I am missing here.
thrillagorilla
Smash Ace
You might be losing your second jump if you are trying to use it to get out of the CG (not saying you are, IDK).
Your second Jump can meteor cancel his meteor smash (spike) if I'm not mistaken, and you should be able to recover if you do that. IDK if mashing the button causes you to lose your second jump after the spike, but maybe if you tried to time it instead you would have better results. You should be able to recover from the meteor smash, though.
Edit: Something else I was thinking about. If you DI towards the stage, I've heard you can Tech the stage to get out of the CG>spike. I've never had to do it myself, I don't face many (if any) Falco players on a regular basis.
The reason is because if you mash on jump during the chain grab to get out if he messes up he can grab you out of your jump and you don't' get another jump. So save your jump till you get spiked and get back up. It definitely sounds like that is what's happening. That or your getting spiked out of your jump when he goes for the spike...
crifer
Smash Lord
yeah you get grabbed out of your jump, so you will not get the 2nd jump back...
I somehow make it the most of the time back after the cg spike, but sometimes it does not work,
should i mash jump with x or y, or the analogstick or wait and jump after a few frames
(i think there is a 20 frames time window where you can press jump right? or was it teching?) ?
I somehow make it the most of the time back after the cg spike, but sometimes it does not work,
should i mash jump with x or y, or the analogstick or wait and jump after a few frames
(i think there is a 20 frames time window where you can press jump right? or was it teching?) ?
smashkng
Smash Lord
When DK releases someone does he get 10 frame advantage like Koopa? I found somewhere that fact.
ook
Smash Lord
It's when he gets released that he gets more frames than everyone else
thrillagorilla
Smash Ace
I'm going to try and make it. July is pretty booked for me, but that weekend is looking pretty good at the moment. 
thrillagorilla
Smash Ace
YOU HAVE A DK TIE!?!?!?!
I have NEVER been able to find one! Where would I look and what price range are we talking here?
thrillagorilla
Smash Ace
rofl!LMAO, its not like tie quality though. Its like uhhh, i cant explain it.
I got it when i went to E4all. I actually was able to get several, one for each day of the week.
Pulling an Albert Einstein with DK ties? Priceless.
Thats awesome. I'm kinda picky about my ties, though, so I guess I need to keep the search going. Thanks for the info, though. I may just finally break down, save up the money and have one custom made to my personal specs. Maybe someday.
Meteor cancel with the joystick, always. You can just press up a bunch and you'll be able to meteor cancel asap. Pressing x or y too soon delays your meteor cancel similar to how you can't tech if you press shield too soon.
crifer
Smash Lord
thx man, I knew there was something like that
Luigi player
Smash Master
DK lives really really long if you know how to DI well.
He also doesn't have a problem with the water, other characters do.
The sides aren't that far away so a well placed bair or other strong attack can kill the enemy somewhat early.
UpB down from the platforms... it can be lagless and/or with SA if you time it right.
From the middle platform you can just grab the edges of the side platforms with a grounded upB.
Cargo Stage Spike is easy since from the middle platform you can just throw them on one of the side platforms...
Down B is nice on the middle platform...
Maybe you can spike your enemy since there are some holes in the stage...
Yeah that's about it I guess.
daisho
Smash Lord
Yeah. There are other things though.Is that it?
Sounds like I should practice this stage with Donkey Kong more.
Many of Donkey kongs main succesful killing moves (D smash U air U tilt sometimes punch) are vertical killers. Vertical kills are extremely difficult here.
Since the sides are so short DK can die really easily.
I guess the good outweigh the bad, although I had some trouble against a R.O.B. who camped on the right side - which is why I asked, actually. I felt at a disadvantage against his camping.
daisho
Smash Lord
Why isn't rob a bad matchup? I can't beat robs.
Also, whose advantage is it on Luigis Mansion, DK or Olimar?
What is a good counterpick... Ive been using halberd against people (not fox or olimar since they have great vertical kill moves, but against most of the cast its pretty good). What do you recommend and why? (Besides LM and Japes).
Also, whose advantage is it on Luigis Mansion, DK or Olimar?
What is a good counterpick... Ive been using halberd against people (not fox or olimar since they have great vertical kill moves, but against most of the cast its pretty good). What do you recommend and why? (Besides LM and Japes).
CELTiiC
Dong 2 Strong
Olimars advantage on Mansion. A good counterpick you can use could be Brinstar. Brinstar cuz you can kill extremely early (as early as 40 on some characters), and the lava can help you with your fail vertical recovery.
CELTiiC
Dong 2 Strong
Neither am I, but I sometimes use it.
daisho
Smash Lord
What do you think about Halberd Delfino or Castle Siege?
stingers
Smash Obsessed
Mine, too.
We should team sometime.Mine, too.
stingers
Smash Obsessed
I'm teaming with PP at this next Billfest, but I've heard how beast you are. I'd love to some other time.
Alright, DUB get's priority as my teammate though so if he's not there or wants to team with someone else then we'll team sometime.