Simple facts that you may not know...

[prisonchild]

no i meant without r as well. it doesn't work for teching and i don't the exact inputs but as long as you input a move a certain time before you land there will be no lag.

i was surprised when my friend told me he didnt press z that often to cancel lag, then he showed me.

it works consistently with kirby's dair>utilt

 

[The Star King]

you're probably autocanceling, or the animation is just straight-up ending before you land

 

[prisonchild]

i think it might be autocancelling?

now i feel silly...

 

[The Star King]

Well autocanceling is what you're describing. If you land during certain frames of an aerial you get an automatic z-cancel.

Usually it's just the very beginning and very end, but some moves have large windows like DK's fair. And Pika uair/Ness dair/Ness uair seem to be 100% autocancel frames

 

[kys]

I'm pretty sure that Yoshi's usmash can jump over Ness' yoyo. Too lazy to check.

 

[weedwack]

ness can "hop" over fox's dtilt with utilt. since the lag on both moves is very similar, if not identical, this can happen several times in a row.

 

[The Star King]

Yeah Pika's grab can too, this was mentioned in this thread already I think :/

 

[Sangoku]

Jigglypuff can survive from a shieldbreak.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D1_V6Y2s2k

 

[The Star King]

OH EM JEE CONGO BEST PUFF STAGE

Why does it only work if the shield is broken by an attack? Do shield stun frames carry over and freeze the beginning frames of the shieldbreak animation or something?

 

[Surri-Sama]

Why does it only work if the shield is broken by an attack? Do shield stun frames carry over and freeze the beginning frames of the shieldbreak animation or something?

Same thing i was wondering, I also wonder how this would work on the MK platforms.

 

[B Link]

Jigglypuff can survive from a shieldbreak.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D1_V6Y2s2k

Wow, I didn't know this.

 

[SSBPete]

best platform in the game = far left platform on saffron

you can moving platform drop cancel and angled platform drop cancel on it

 

[Battlecow]

Y'all know ness' thing where he goes into DL at a downwards angle and hits the wall and gets shot straight up? That can also work shooting at an upwards angle at the bottom/lower part of the stage, not exactly sure where or how but I did it at FC and ness hit the stage and then shot straight down, mad cool someone should test it.

I also got the pika teleport glitch twice in three days get at me

 

[Surri-Sama]

I also got the pika teleport glitch twice in three days get at me

Ban Dreamland ;D

 

[The Star King]

^I lol'd

Battlecow did you get it from right side -> left side both times? That's the only direction I've ever seen it.

 

[TANK64]

Ban Dreamland ;D

Happens of Hyrule too , but nice try .

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Also, I feel like most people may not know this

^I lol'd

Battlecow did you get it from right side -> left side both times? That's the only direction I've ever seen it.

Yea. Me too.

 

[Surri-Sama]

^I lol'd

Battlecow did you get it from right side -> left side both times? That's the only direction I've ever seen it.

same

Happens of Hyrule too , but nice try .

Spoiler

Also, I feel like most people may not know this

I've never seen or heard of this happening on hyrule :o

 

[TANK64]

Yea. It was like this:

Spoiler

 

[The Star King]

That's probably why nobody has seen it. Why would you up-b into that corner ever lol

 

[TANK64]

Hey SK.

**** YOU!

 

[The Star King]

that made me a sad

 

[Surri-Sama]

LOL has anyone ever seen that Hyrule glitch in game? :o

 

[TANK64]

that made me a sad

You know I never meant to hurt you <3

LOL has anyone ever seen that Hyrule glitch in game? :o

I have.

 

[Surri-Sama]

I there a known reason for this?

Or even a good guess?

 

[The Star King]

Explanation: Sakurai knew that Pikachu's original design was overpowered, so he added this "bug" (actually a feature) to balance his moveset and give his recovery a flaw



jk



but seriously

 

[Surri-Sama]

Normally there's a bit of insight on most glitches, i suppose this ones a little harder to duplicate though?

 

[SSBPete]

there's a worm hole in the space time continuum

duh

 

[Stormcrow2]

There are 44 total pieces when you completely take apart the original N64 controller, including screws. (this is counting the cord/plugin/main chip board all as one piece, as well as the chip/cords for the thumbstick as one piece).

Useful info, i kno rite?

I just took apart a controller I bought off ebay for like $15 total including shipping, it was filthy and had that powder crap caked inside the joystick unit, but now it's clean, thumbstick swivel pieces lightly applied with vaseline, and the stick feels like a B tier, not bad

 

[Battlecow]

yeah it was right->left both times, I'd heard that that was the only possible way before.

Sakurai actually knew that NESS was overpowered and that pikachu couldn't beat him on dreamland, so he added this super-convenient way for pikachu to eat ness's PK thunder after trading hits and being knocked off opposite sides of DL

 

[Sangoku]

You can fall through platforms without fast falling during special helpless animation (after an UpB).

 

[prisonchild]

You can fall through platforms without fast falling during special helpless animation (after an UpB).

how? i feel like that could be useful

 

[The Star King]

Tilt down slowly enough so that you don't fastfall, or buffer it

I doubt it's very useful though xP

 

[Sangoku]

It could add some mixup with special animation landing (with Ness for example). I don't think I've ever seen in ingame. The only mixups I've seen were fastfall land/go through.

But yeah, I agree it's probably useless anyway (but that's the purpose of the thread =P).

 

[prisonchild]

Tilt down slowly enough so that you don't fastfall, or buffer it

I doubt it's very useful though xP

that was going to be my guess on how to do it, thanks.


and i dont think you would find yourself in a situation like that very often but it could surprise some people

 

[ballin4life]

darth rancorous does that all the time. it can be pretty useful.

 

[B Link]

Sounds useful to me (recovery mindgames)

 

[KoRoBeNiKi]

seems like it would be useful for samus's recovery to make up b less punishable. Falcon might benefit also for similar reasons. Maybe Ness also

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(nvm, its ness recovering)

 

[TheMagistrate]

no i meant without r as well. it doesn't work for teching and i don't the exact inputs but as long as you input a move a certain time before you land there will be no lag.

show me with Link and Pika's Dair

 

[ciaza]

i have no idea if this is common knowledge or not but the star rod uses ammo like the ray gun, and is not inifinite

CRAZY

 

[Surri-Sama]

The star it shoots has two different speeds / ranges depending on if you us Tilt or smash as well.

Star Rod is by far my fav item lol

Dat spike