Simple facts that you may not know...

[The Star King]

i have no idea if this is common knowledge or not but the star rod uses ammo like the ray gun, and is not inifinite

CRAZY

16 stars

Anyways, when Kirby swallows a character and then spits them out at someone else, the % damage the star deals depends on the character's weight. i.e. Kirby shooting out DK at someone does 30% damage, while Kirby shooting out Jigglypuff does 17% damage. Knockback is also affected (DK's is mad powerful, like more powerful than Yoshi's USmash)

Spoiler

Kirby + DK for best doubles team

 

[Surri-Sama]

16 stars

Anyways, when Kirby swallows a character and then spits them out at someone else, the % damage the star deals depends on the character's weight. i.e. Kirby shooting out DK at someone does 30% damage, while Kirby shooting out Jigglypuff does 17% damage. Knockback is also affected (DK's is mad powerful, like more powerful than Yoshi's USmash)

Spoiler

Kirby + DK for best doubles team

Haha that's random.

Could we get tests done with metal mario or giant DK (if it's possible for kirby to use B on them lol)

 

[The Star King]

Giant DK did 40% damage (edit: *50%), Metal Mario did the same as Mario (17%)

BTW it looks like I reached my conclusion too quickly because I was wrong, everyone but DK/Yoshi does 17% damage and DK and Yoshi are the only ones who do extra (30% and 25%). lol.

 

[Battlecow]

maybe it's SIZE and not weight then

 

[Sangoku]

I believe Captain Falcon is taller than Kirby or Pikachu. I might be wrong though.

 

[Battlecow]

European sarcasm or European smash knowledge? Hard to tell =p

Obviously we'd have to have categories here, where everyone under yoshi does 17, Yoshi does 25, DK does 30, and GDK does 40. Medium, Large, XL, and XXL, if you will, with most characters being medium.

 

[ballin4life]

i have no idea if this is common knowledge or not but the star rod uses ammo like the ray gun, and is not inifinite

CRAZY

wait, you can use the star rod like a gun?

WTF

 

[M!nt]

i have no idea if this is common knowledge or not but the star rod uses ammo like the ray gun, and is not inifinite

CRAZY

Wow I had no idea, they sure are generous on the ammo.

fan is best item

 

[Surri-Sama]

Wow I had no idea, they sure are generous on the ammo.

fan is best item

Yeah most times it gets thrown before it's fully used.

If this is sarcasm nvm lol...3/4 of the talk about the Star Rod seems to be, so it's hard to tell xD

 

[B Link]

Giant DK did 40% damage, Metal Mario did the same as Mario (17%)

BTW it looks like I reached my conclusion too quickly because I was wrong, everyone but DK/Yoshi does 17% damage and DK and Yoshi are the only ones who do extra (30% and 25%). lol.

Thanks for the info

 

[KoRoBeNiKi]

wait, you can use the star rod like a gun?

WTF

not sure if serious, the smash/tilt hit shoots out the star, and yes, in melee it also has a limited ammo and it makes a different sound when it is out of ammo. Not sure in this game if it also has limited ammo. never used it for a long enough period of time

 

[M!nt]

 

[clubbadubba]

legit didn't know star rod ran out of ammo. nice

 

[WOTG]

You guys serious? Star Rod is noob-days discoveries

 

[The Star King]

It's not even noob discovery. I can't ever remember not knowing that in my noob days, day 1 stuff. PLAY WITH ITEMS GUYS

 

[SuPeRbOoM]

not sure if serious, the smash/tilt hit shoots out the star, and yes, in melee it also has a limited ammo and it makes a different sound when it is out of ammo. Not sure in this game if it also has limited ammo. never used it for a long enough period of time

wat

You guys serious? Star Rod is noob-days discoveries

This.

And comboing with ray gun when you're a kid.

 

[GhllieShdeKnife]

ray gun combos off the stage 0-death lol.

 

[Sangoku]

Kirby's up smash can hit people on the side platform of Dreamland from the main stage...

 

[jimmyjoe]

Kirby's up smash can hit people on the side platform of Dreamland from the main stage...

Yeah? Like, full power hit?

 

[Sangoku]

Yeah, full power hit. The placement range is small, but it really looks ******** when you get it.

 

[clubbadubba]

This is probably already known and documented somewhere, but I just learned it today sooooo...

Breaking Yoshi's armor requires that a certain amount of knockback be applied. This knockback is a constant and is independent of how much percent yoshi has. The reason Yoshi's armor breaks at higher percents more easily is because attacks produce more knockback at higher percents. The exception to that rule being constant knockback moves. So don't try to break through Yoshi's super armor with a constant knockback move, even at high percents.

 

[mixa]

That was very clarifying, clubba.
Btw, Ness' d-tilt doesn't break Yoshi's armor, even though it's not a move with set knockback.

from the old thread: "Star King: 'The top of the Saffron Pokemon Box has reduced traction' " -- what do you mean?

 

[Battlecow]

This is probably already known and documented somewhere, but I just learned it today sooooo...

Breaking Yoshi's armor requires that a certain amount of knockback be applied. This knockback is a constant and is independent of how much percent yoshi has. The reason Yoshi's armor breaks at higher percents more easily is because attacks produce more knockback at higher percents. The exception to that rule being constant knockback moves. So don't try to break through Yoshi's super armor with a constant knockback move, even at high percents.

Learned it from ME

because I'm brilliant

not really tho I learned it from SK like 3 years ago

 

[The Star King]

from the old thread: "Star King: 'The top of the Saffron Pokemon Box has reduced traction' " -- what do you mean?

By traction I basically mean resistance to sliding. For example, Luigi has lower traction than Mario, which means pivot edgehogs are easier with him because he slides further.

So I just mean you slide further on the Pokemon box. Stuff like pivot taunt cancels or Link up-b edge cancel is easier.

 

[B-Town]

Not sure if this is common knowledge but you can play the whole game with R and the control stick. You can grab, shield, up smash, z-cancel, and do aerials.

 

[Sangoku]

Huh this is common knowledge and you can play the whole game with any button you want. You'll be more or less handicaped depending on the button.

 

[clubbadubba]

Not sure if this is common knowledge but you can play the whole game with R and the control stick. You can grab, shield, up smash, z-cancel, and do aerials.

And just hope to god you don't get hit off stage

 

[B-Town]

Well yeah I guess if you totally want to stick to the two buttons you wouldn't be able to use a recovery move. I just meant that R and the control stick are the most versatile buttons in the game, as far as I know.

 

[KoRoBeNiKi]

Not sure if this is common knowledge but you can play the whole game with R and the control stick. You can grab, shield, up smash, z-cancel, and do aerials.

For anyone who doesn't know, I use the R button and control stick/C buttons only. I buffer shields for examples and use/z-cancel aerials by tapping R twice.

 

[B-Town]

For anyone who doesn't know, I use the R button and control stick/C buttons only. I buffer shields for examples and use/z-cancel aerials by tapping R twice.

For every character? Maybe that might work for ness or falcon but not most of the cast.

 

[The Star King]

why would you limit yourself to buffer shields lol

 

[KoRoBeNiKi]

why would you limit yourself to buffer shields lol

Because I hold the controller rather weirdly. I find it more comfortable to not hold a finger on the Z-button. I mean, I can, but I prefer not to.

 

[meowmeowrainbowkitty]

not sure if this matters or not, but on DL, as falcon vs DK, if you upb DK right under the middle plat, you end up landing exactly on the middle plat, as if you just z-canceled.

 

[Cobrevolution]

that's the most swaggy thing you can do as falcon - upb onto something with no lag like ye i meant it like that i did it like that.

 

[RickySSB]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JPY1BhSH1U

 

[KoRoBeNiKi]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JPY1BhSH1U

It's not samus, it's fox's hitboxes

 

[RickySSB]

It's not samus, it's fox's hitboxes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFZrzg62Zj0

 

[KoRoBeNiKi]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFZrzg62Zj0

Obviously you do

post4100

 

[RickySSB]

You win this round KOROBENIKIIIII.

 

[Sangoku]

Kirby's bair cancels his turning animation. Meaning you can use your 5 jumps going right, while facing left.