Should Metaknight be Banned? **Take 2** (Post-podcast)

[Inui]

what happened to M2K supposedly being half of those MK wins.

I don't think that was ever said. It was stated that a large number of the points MK has come from Mew2King winning gigantic tournaments going all MK, thus netting MK tons of points every time.

i wanna fight ally

Well all do. =/

 

[Zankoku]

what tournaments are those from ankoku? there aren't any results from any IA/NE tourneys that i see.

I never see any get submitted to my thread.

 

[The Real Inferno]

(on fighting Ally)



Well all do. =/

Agreed. There needs to be a mass "USA Beats Canada's *** Day" and we'll all travel northward to take turns =D

 

[Overswarm]

Overswarm wanted both first AND second place, and local tournaments instead of just major tournaments. As amazing as M2K might be, I don't think he's perfected the concept of time paradox to be able to attend every single tournament on every single weekend.

32 out of 76 is still less than 18 out of 38, though, so I'm not exactly sure what OS was getting at.

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When did I ask for second place?

I asked for the 2nd best ranking character on that list. The gap is huge.

 

[kr3wman]

And Ally won TWO different tournaments.

 

[BrawlLover]

that's insane to be honest, it's like really tough to do, he is definitely pro

 

[da K.I.D.]

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When did I ask for second place?

I asked for the 2nd best ranking character on that list. The gap is huge.

you worded your question badly
we were all under the assumption that you wanted all the first and second place finishes from this ranking period

 

[LeeHarris]

By the way, of the 35 people who voted NOT to ban MK in the SBR, only 6 go to tournaments regularly.

Isn't it great that our decision is lead by 29 people who you can barely qualify as Brawl players?

 

[BrawlLover]

wow you serious? they have to go to tournaments, if not, why should they have a say!?

 

[LeeHarris]

Yep. The 3 people who have argued against the ban the most in the SBR: KishPrime, Umbreon, AlphaZealot,

AZ is the only one I've seen at a tournament at all, and it was once within the last 3 months or so.

 

[salaboB]

I don't think that was ever said. It was stated that a large number of the points MK has come from Mew2King winning gigantic tournaments going all MK, thus netting MK tons of points every time.

80% wins was said. Whether it's what was meant or not, it was said (And CO18 was defending it being disagreed with so it seems like that's what was meant)

BECAUSE FREAKING M2k and DSF MAIN HIM AND GET LIKE 80% OF HIS WINS BECAUSE THEY ARE BETTER THAN EVERYONE ELSE.

JUST LIKE HOW M2k WAS STILL THE BEST EC PLAYER WHEN HE USED DEDEDE AND DSF WAS THE BEST WEST COAST PLAYER WHEN HE USED SNAKE.

I said he earned a large number of points but not that huge a percent of the wins in response to it

 

[BrawlLover]

Yep. The 3 people who have argued against the ban the most in the SBR: KishPrime, Umbreon, AlphaZealot,

AZ is the only one I've seen at a tournament at all, and it was once within the last 3 months or so.

loool that's a bit unfair don't you think?

 

[LeeHarris]

It's not that it's unfair, it's just downright stupid. I'd say at least half of the SBR right now doesn't even play Brawl, and they are the leaders of the Brawl community... haha.

People should just come to their own conclusions instead of relying on the ridiculous and over-theorizing SBR.

 

[BrawlLover]

wow, if they even play it...then why are they the leaders??? hahaha it's a bit contradicting if you aks me, so i shouldn't trust the sbr?

 

[gantrain05]

wow, if they even play it...then why are they the leaders??? hahaha it's a bit contradicting if you aks me, so i shouldn't trust the sbr?

they were probably the leaders since melee, and just didn't move on to brawl.....i don't think that the non-brawl playing SBR members should even have a say in it.

 

[DraKmoN001]

By the way, of the 35 people who voted NOT to ban MK in the SBR, only 6 go to tournaments regularly.

Isn't it great that our decision is lead by 29 people who you can barely qualify as Brawl players?

1. I thought being an intelligent and oft-contributing individual was the qualification for entering the SBR, and not necessarily being tourney goers? If the decision on MK was supposed to be only decided by individuals who go to tourneys and not SBRers in general, perhaps that should have been specified.

2. If these individuals "barely qualify as Brawl players", why are they in the SBR then?

 

[BrawlLover]

they were probably the leaders since melee, and just didn't move on to brawl.....i don't think that the non-brawl playing SBR members should even have a say in it.

lmao i jus found this out too, i gotta agree with ya man, it's like saying george bush still have a say in obama's decisions...

 

[LeeHarris]

1. I thought being an intelligent and oft-contributing individual was the qualification for entering the SBR, and not necessarily being tourney goers? If the decision on MK was supposed to be only decided by individuals who go to tourneys and not SBRers in general, perhaps that should have been specified.

2. If these individuals "barely qualify as Brawl players", why are they in the SBR then?

Most of them are intelligent posters from the Melee era. You can't understand something like the MK issue simply by reading text.

 

[da K.I.D.]

you are mad late with this info son

and does OS count as playing brawl, cus he makes it very known to everybody that he never ever practices...

 

[gantrain05]

you are mad late with this info son

and does OS count as playing brawl, cus he makes it very known to everybody that he never ever practices...

well he does go to tournies regularly and places well.....i think that qualifies as playing brawl lol.

 

[aeghrur]

Well, to be fair, not many Pro-ban members attend many tournies either, nor do they win them so much like M2K, Ninjalink, Atomsk, and Inui.

 

[Dojo]

Most of them are intelligent posters from the Melee era. You can't understand something like the MK issue simply by reading text.

I thought you quit?

 

[gantrain05]

AHHH ITS DOJO...i gotta play you someday lol.

 

[Mew2King]

wow Lee stop spreading lies what you said has already been proven false in back room immediately after you said it, and the same can be said for your side. The only truely top player that even voted to ban MK in back room was chillin, runner up being edress

 

[gantrain05]

wait im confused, whats goin on M2K? someone was spreading lies about the SBR vote?

and on a side note Edrees is pro, he ain't no runner up, best **** peach in the world.

 

[BrawlLover]

what is going on???? im so confused....

 

[NeoCrono]

yeah, someone is lying. I want the truth, I need the truth!

 

[LeeHarris]

wow Lee stop spreading lies what you said has already been proven false in back room immediately after you said it, and the same can be said for your side. The only truely top player that even voted to ban MK in back room was chillin, runner up being edress

O rly? Quote it for me where I was proven wrong. Oh wait, you can't.

I thought you quit?

Yeah, I'm just bored today and I feel like debating I play better games now (GGAC, SF)

 

[Isaac Brawler]

wow Lee stop spreading lies what you said has already been proven false in back room immediately after you said it, and the same can be said for your side. The only truely top player that even voted to ban MK in back room was chillin, runner up being edress

You are not forgetting Overswarm... Aren't you?

 

[Mew2King]

I'm not quoting the back room WTF you aren't allowed to do that but they already said there's many more top players than the one you named. On average, and from just pure numbers, AS WELL AS almost every top player outside of TX that I talk to says banning MK is ********. I said TOP players. If you are just taking average players our side still has more.

 

[choknater]

I wonder if the ban side is gonna maintain that almost-exactly-200 lead all the way up into the thousands again, haha.

 

[NeoCrono]

Yeah, I'm just bored today and I feel like debating I play better games now (GGAC, SF)

I have been finding myself playing street fighter 3rd strike a lot now, why did you quit?

 

[gantrain05]

I'm not quoting the back room WTF you aren't allowed to do that but they already said there's many more top players than the one you named. On average, and from just pure numbers, AS WELL AS almost every top player outside of TX that I talk to says banning MK is ********. I said TOP players. If you are just taking average players our side still has more.

then how do you explain losing the poll =/

 

[The Real Inferno]

I wonder if the ban side is gonna maintain that almost-exactly-200 lead all the way up into the thousands again, haha.

Actually last time it dropped to something like 180 toward the end I believe.

 

[Dustero]

I think he should be banned. He's just way too strong. He has an advantage over pretty much every character. The only way a Snake can be a good Metaknight is for him to spam grenades, but that won't work for long.

 

[Mew2King]

because the smarter people know what they are talking about? for the most part, the higher up in skill level you go, the greater %age of people are against it

 

[Overswarm]

because the smarter people know what they are talking about? for the most part, the higher up in skill level you go, the greater %age of people are against it

This is mostly dependent on the region.



M2K is right about not quoting the back room though Lee; it's private for a reason.

 

[LeeHarris]

Hahaha, they kicked me out of the SBR today for posting the info about how there are hardly any tournament players in the anti-ban side. The Smash community has awesome leadership

 

[choknater]

lmao. what the heck?

edit: wow, I just popped in to see that the votes are 664 and 466

too goodzzzz

 

[Inui]

Hahaha, they kicked me out of the SBR today for posting the info about how there are hardly any tournament players in the anti-ban side. The Smash community has awesome leadership

You shouldn't have been in there anyways. Isn't the backroom for people that contribute to the community, host good tournaments, are top players, or any combination of the three? You don't really fit that stuff too well.

Oh, you're also a jackass that hasn't earned one tiny bit of his arrogance.