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The tiers are a big deal. I don't see what the problem is here.
I wish Sonic was an 80:20. Perhaps in the Land of Things That Will Never Happen, Ever he might be an 80:20.Yes, because his only counter is not tourny viable so he has no counter now.
AND SONIC WAS AN 80:20(mk favored) COUNTER TOO.
No they're not. You know nothing about competitive gaming. Honestly, why are you even posting in this thread? You're worse than Brinboy.
Tiers are made to determine, within a certain range of accuracy, each character's potential standing in a ranking system. It has nothing to do with trolling and everything to do with increasing our knowledge of the game.
This is true.
This argument has been used so many times I cannot even begin to tell you how stupid you sound right now.
Other people besides myself probably beg to differ.
That took me about 5 seconds to write, but whatever. Rejoin the millions.
I love how Sirlinism is like a religion now.
You're getting banned for being a complete ****** and bring your idiocy into an otherwise decent thread.
you're being banned for flaming others and for being a fool.
hes arguing because he knows what the tier list is actually supposed to represent and you obviously dont
none of us actually agree with the current tier list but we know what its there for.
Once again, i really don't care about the tiers. It's all about skill, not someone's opinion
did the same. podcast was very informative.
this si all you have to say.
Well i'm not sure. Say you're really good with Sonic (who's low in the tiers) and terrible with Meta Knight (you know where he is) and people make fun of you because you use low tier characters. That's what i'm getting at, people think that you're better playing with the higher tier characters when you're fine playing as whoever the hell you're best with.
That reminds me, Merry Christmas! Ok i'm sorry i really wanted to do that now seriously back to topic
Uh, duh? Obviously people play with the character they're best with, but it's easier to reach a tournament level with higher tiers because they have intrinsically better qualities than the lower tiers. Tiers are an evaluation of how good a character might be, and though there are people out there who can turn trash into treasure, it's not nearly everyone.
Make more sense plz
Everyone strikes Final Destination. >_>
Tier worshippers lolol. More like you're part of that circle-jerking TR4Q group.
no one's factoring player skill. it requires a change up of your game. just like one of the key reasons olimar isn't higher on the list is because he is beaten easier when you adjust your game to into one focused around getting the edgehog. its not player skill, its HOW you fight the character.
Umm... What?
It's not much of a mindgame if he does it every time. And these are cases of the player being predictable, not hte character.
Again, player predictability, not character predictability.
G&W has heavily unfavorable matchups. Meta Knight does not. I don't even know what you're getting at here.
I'll take that as a compliment.
if you consistently get hit by d-smash, you aren't good at this game. MK has very little winddown lag on almost all of his moves, and the only reason you would continue to get hit by d-smash is if you try to punish MK like a ****** in instances where your move wont come out faster than his d-smash. don't ban a character because you suck
lol g&w doesn't have any heavily unfavorable matchups, he's a couple of tough ones, and so does metaknight
I don't believe I made clear where I stand on this whole thing, but it's pretty cool of you to assume I'm for the ban just because I disagree with you. Yeah, it's also pretty cool that you think I suck since you think I'm for the ban.
Wait, you're talking about Meta Knight? For a moment it looked like Melee Sheik until you said "glide attack." Doesn't Meta Knight also have a solid nair, a fast comboable uair, a very good dtilt and ftilt, and one hell of a great finisher in Shuttle Loop? If players are using three moves the entire time with Meta Knight then yes, they are being predictable, and it's their fault, not Meta Knight's.
Ending the glide close to the ground results in no additional landing lag. Glide attacking late to avoid hitting a shield is an option. Glide attacking from a well-spaced position works to avoid being punished out of shield. Pick one, or just keep gliding past and grab a ledge.
G&W is pretty handily beaten by those who can deal with his aerial zoning game, since his ground game is more composed of finishers than approaches. Meta Knight just has more trouble with some characters than he would with most.
