Gosh, it seems whenever people address me, my posts are getting long. Apologies again. xD
And J, I'm pretty sure I know why you have a scum read on me. It's my tone. I've been more passive and slightly apathetic. There's a reason for this and I'll discuss it with you at endgame if you want.
On to more important things. What's your read on Ryker? What about DH?
I don't wanna discuss it endgame though.
I want to know now whether you are town or scum because I honestly am having a hard time seeing you as town this game with the way you are playing because I don't get it at all.
Yes, a lot of my concern does stem from your passiveness/slight apathy towards anything you are doing this game.
*grumble* If I have to wait till endgame, I guess. Doesn't quell my suspicions at all but Gorf is telling me to stfu about you being scum. ">.> Moving on however:
My read on Ryker is null. If I had to choose a side to put him on from scummy lean or towny lean, I would say more of a towny lean. He just needs to do stuff.
DH is reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally hard for me to read because I have never played a game where I don't think he is scummy and so I am leaving that read to Gorf and I honestly can't recall his position at the current time besides that DH is like non-existant due to his V/LA. So yeah, I'll go with a null considering I am looking at bigger people right now.
What makes you of July by chance? =o
Idk what your real intentions are. What you say here is correct, but it's not really giving an opinion or reads or scumhunting; it's just advice. And I think that while it might just be you being nice and being nice guys, it could also have scummy intent of faking content and making it look like you were contributing to the convo on Dark Horse when you really weren't. And then you do it again here:
Once again, this post is purely advice, and since this happened twice in a short span of time in the beginning of the game, it seems highly likely your intent was just to look like you were contributing or furthering the conversation when really you were just giving advice.
And then it happens again with Felipe telling him to not be rude to bardull, but that one was a more warranted.
"It could have scummy intent of faking content and making it look like you were contributing to the convo on DH when you really weren't."
July, I seperated this little quote because I have a problem with it. You aren't really giving me a definite answer. You gave yourself a qualifier in this section where, "It could be you guys being nice" or it could be the already quoted section. You don't pick a side to it and put down your foot as to what we were doing. This "suspicion" you seem to have doesn't really look like you are fully behind it when you said this is one of the major reasons why you have us as scum. In fact it contradicts what you said earlier:
July said:
However, there are still a lot of posts that I don't see town intent behind
You said there are a lot of posts where you don't see town intent behind. Yet, you say you could in fact see town intent in those posts as us being nice. There is also the fact you said a lot of posts when you don't even quote that much at all.
It bugs me dear because you saying things like "well it could be scummy but it could not be scummy as well." You are saying it looks like we were more trying to give advice/look like we were doing stuff but that wasn't the case at all nor has it been the case at any other point of the game or else you would have called us out on that. I don't really get your points of you saying
July said:
Then there's this post, which was really unnerving for me. You've been quite vocal about supporting me and finding me town this game, and like a lot of the other things I've addressed, it's determining whether or not this is the case or if you are being nice to me because both you think that being nice to me will make me soften my scum read (which has been an issue for me in the past, admittedly).
I'm going to let Gorf adress the unnerving post since that was his but the bolded just adds to my section above where you are putting in these qualifiers to your debate to somewhat create a backdoor out of the argument if you were to be wrong and you never really answered my question of showing posts where you could not see any town intent whatsoever.
July said:
Because (at the time you asked this question and the time of my original post), Orbo and dabuz hadn't posted anything of substance and Orbo stated he was willing to just blindly follow Swiss which isn't very comforting for his motivation to play the game. Felipe hasn't been too active lately, but I remember some stances he made, specifically on bardull/Kuz and No Lynch being town.
Has does Felipe taking the stances on Kuz/NL being town = not really null as Orbo/Dabuz. Now that Orbo/Dabuz have now made more insightful posts than Felipe can you rank their worth so far in the game to you like you did on that other list?
The rest of your post was fine with me haha. =P However, I have to say that I get the impression that you are tunneling a bit here with your suspicion on us, July. I've adressed all of your concerns and pretty much satitated you with answers you seem to deem as good but you are continuing to call us scum for a reason I just cannot figure out. However, at the same time you aren't tunneling us and looking at different avenues while you are pressuring us.
You are incredulously confusing for me to figure out July. I have no clue where to put you on my town list but atm, you are sitting null as null can be. I kind of like it because you are that puzzle/challenge I am trying to figure out and it's hard. Gorf says you are brownie townie, but I don't know about that.
July, you have taken an opinion of finding both Ditzy and Swiss town. If the lynch boiled down to Ditzy/Swiss which side would you take and why? Give me your opinion on Rockin and why we should NOT lynch him?
Would you lynch Rockin toDay?
Bleck Mang, I haven't talked to you.
What do you think of Rockin's post on Kuz or rather to be more specific, does it change your read on his slot?
On which slot do you mean? =x
Rockin's slot: No, in fact I guess you could say I dislike him moreso for his case on Kuzi which I just cannot agree to. Kuzi worded it really well that it was a reach for a point to make it all work together.
Kuzi's slot: Eh, doesn't really do much of anything still scum-lean.
Vote: Jdietz
Let's lynch.
Alright.
Zen.
What are you doing?
No seriously, what are you doing because you are getting
too weird for me. Why are you lynching a town-read of yours? Yes, it's logical but we still have 6 days and I know for a fact that you would be better using this time to convince people to change onto who you want for scum because that is what we did in G3S mafia however you are bending to what Swiss/Ryker want due to it being a "logical choice".
I'm all for logics because that's how I normally play to even allow my own lynch if I can see the logistics behind it but I am NOT lynching Ditzy toDay whatsoever. He is way too town and you know there are better targets for D1 lynch than him.
And no Felipe is not one of them.
Why have you seemed to have dropped your RR suspicion?
Why do you think this description of Kuz is wrong?
@Everyone: What do you think about the interaction between July and Black Mang? It feels like July is either tunneling a little bit or using suspicions on Black Mang to appear involved without being noticeable.
The description of Kuzi is just wrong because he has not being doing that and there is no where in his play that someone could show as such. Look as much as I would like to have a Kuzi-lynch because it'd be one of my scum-leans gone and good info; using that type of offense/not even true stuff is just nooooooooooo thank you.
Like I don't get how people don't see that it just is not true at all. If it was true, I would deffo have brought it up already when I was going against Kuzi in our 1v1.
W.r.t. July, I get the impression she is tunneling a bit on us but not really. I don't get the vibe she is attacking us to look like she is doing stuff because she has been doing other things within her posts attacking us to further her scum-hunting and has been giving off constant reads on other slots. So a little tunnely but not to the point of "OMG TUNNELGOOGLES OH HOY!" ya know? =D
