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His latest post, as should be apparent.
You're full of ****.
You will say that to any post Ryker. You never look at things more than one way. Once you have your mind on something, you just push every post that person makes even when there is nothing scummy about it at all.
@Mod request replacement for Dark Horse if stated V/LA lasts, like, for 4+ days. That seems fair.
If that was the case (your reasoning due to your english), why do you play the game? I don't understand this...
Oh great! you posted your reads...
I've seen several posts from you with the extended catchup, and nothing mentions your opinions about what's been happening.
You could just...vote on who you think is scummy and pressure them for their lynch....>_>
Again, it's just the thing I noticed in terms of his motives. Or reasons why are different....so eh. *shrugs* lol
That isn't a comment on the current situation, that's a response to one of Swiss's inquiries as to why I was asking town 'obvious' questions at one point. If you haven't noticed: my vote and stance are pretty Swiss oriented atm
The thing about this "difference" of opinions is that what you are saying has no supporting evidence to back up what you are saying because the facts aren't there. Can you show me what exactly you are talking about with your different opinion as to why Kuzi is scum?
Post of interest if Dietz flips scum.Rockin said:
My thoughts exactly. Omg we agree on something. Too bad Ditzy's town no matter how hard you want him to be scum. ;P
Alright, I'll do my best
Follow by a form of confidence that Jdietz is scum
And when he wanted to show his reason, he did.
IFrom the sound of things, he was pretty much set on doing his hardest to get him lynched. You'd think he'd be pretty stubborn about it, given his confidence. But then something happened. When Dietz mentioned about the neighboring thing, Kuz got a bit interested.
It came to the point where he was more interested lynching the said person and not Dietz
It seemed clear that Kuz 'deflated' the hot air he had of lynching him and focused on this would-be neighbor of his, as well as clearly saying he would lynch the person.
2) the fact that he thought swiss was the neighbor, who, at the time, labled Dietz as n00bscum
After I confirmed it, most of his attention and comments went towards Swiss in defense of Dietz. Unvoted and hasn't said much who he thinks is scummy. No Lynch brought up his thoughts on me, as well as wondered if he still wanted to lynch me.
Reasoning seem a bit weak IMO.
And here's his response towards your question.
Ryker, because he gives me vibes as bad as Swiss, he spends all his time bashing and being unhelpful. (but that won't happen considering people see his play in the same line as Swiss's play and consider it normal Ryker)
I remember what you said before. You said you change reads (If I'm not mistaken).
I'm always confident in anything I push until I'm proven otherwise. This is definitely a case where relevant in-game action was sufficient enough to change my read. I've already explained this 3 separate times to three separate people.
Yes yes I can address some of those posts that made me uneasy about your intent, and that's where the scum read comes from and hangs in there (it's not a super scum read, you've definitely alleviated many of the concerns I had about sidelining that made me feel you were extremely scummy).
Idk what your real intentions are. What you say here is correct, but it's not really giving an opinion or reads or scumhunting; it's just advice. And I think that while it might just be you being nice and being nice guys, it could also have scummy intent of faking content and making it look like you were contributing to the convo on Dark Horse when you really weren't. And then you do it again here:
Once again, this post is purely advice, and since this happened twice in a short span of time in the beginning of the game, it seems highly likely your intent was just to look like you were contributing or furthering the conversation when really you were just giving advice.
Then there's this post, which was really unnerving for me. You've been quite vocal about supporting me and finding me town this game, and like a lot of the other things I've addressed, it's determining whether or not this is the case or if you are being nice to me because both you think that being nice to me will make me soften my scum read (which has been an issue for me in the past, admittedly). Also theK here we go yo. Lemme start off with this Unvote Vote: JDietz. I'll get back to that later.
For right now, I'm really digging July's wall (even though her walls annoy the living hell out of me). The thing that really separates how I feel about that wall and down right near anything she posted in Walgreens is that, even after last night, there's a lot of memory of it that I have. She's really stuck her head out and made an effort to make an impact, whereas in Walgreens each of her posts were essentially geared to be so unreadable that I'd just not even bother and skip on. That, and the fact that J is a little July fanboy, is really making me dig her.
I'm loving the Bardull/Kuz slot. Bardull's daring and showing that he's looking to scumhunt painted him as pretty obvtown to me, and no I'm not gonna be one of the clowns that are JUST gonna drop that cuz Kuz is taking that slot (and of course I wasn't just gonna give Kuz a free pass but anyway...). And then, when I read Kuz' spiel on JDietz it really got me to understand what it is I was thinking about JDietz as I was looking into em in the beginning (I think I touched on it last night).
As far as Swiss, Rockin, and Ryker go, they all seem fine for me as far as living through toDay. All of them have been open with what they've been feeling and doing their part to scumhunt (haven't really read Rockin v Ryker, gonna do that after I'm done with this), so ultimately no qualms in this here area. And now that I think about it I'm fine with putting No Lynch in this category too.
Red Ruy bugs me, and it's not because of how Red Ruy usually is. There's really nothing concrete that I have on him, but it feels like a majority of what he's doing is too methodical, too planned, too polished... His idea of wanting to lynch based off of experience or something like that was totally offsetting, and off base considering the fact that I remember that being a problem in Adventure Time... call me the devil's advocate but I can see scumRuy wanting to use that as a way to look like he's doing something that'll help town out, rather than sticking to his norm as scum and not really being in the scene. Plus his whole stopping of Ryker's pressure was sooooooo "What would a townie say at this point hurr durr?".
I think I touched on Felipe last night, but he's just so antitown and such a nuisance, to me, that I don't even want to waste my time looking into him... If he's still alive by near end game I'll look into em and read em. If he's got a wagon on em I'll join. But he continues, on a regular, to do dirt poor nothing and I don't wanna go out of my way to get em to try and care. I can't change him, the only thing I can change is how I handle the situation (thank you therapy).
Dark Horse is probz my second strongest scum read atm, and not too far behind JDietz. His very first post in the game was so wtfareyoudoing it's insane, and like I said it'd TOTALLY make sense with a JDietz-DH scum team noob scum mistake, going all chainsaw defense on dat a**. Plus all of his snide remarks when people are pressuring him, and his super defensive attitude, all make me think DH scum. BUT, if there's a DH town flip, then that really opens me up to Felipe scum cuz of that whole him hopping up on the DH wagon for no reason thing, and I'm sure scumFelipe would be thinking townDH is a balls easy lynch.
I already voiced my thoughts about JDietz... But I think he deserves a lot more pressure than what he's getting. It's almost like he's being fed on how to play scum by someone, but that you can tell it's noobscum. I see a lot of my noobscum mistakes in him. He's yet to make a concrete stance on anything. And I read back on JDietz' posts. Literally everything has a condition attached. As far as content goes, he has content flow, but it's a severe case of quality > quantity. His posts are so meek, so bland. He deserves eons more pressure than what he's getting.
Because (at the time you asked this question and the time of my original post), Orbo and dabuz hadn't posted anything of substance and Orbo stated he was willing to just blindly follow Swiss which isn't very comforting for his motivation to play the game. Felipe hasn't been too active lately, but I remember some stances he made, specifically on bardull/Kuz and No Lynch being town.
I like that he stopped pushing JDeitz when he saw town intent behind his posts, that has been a huge factor for me, and the fact that he hasn't budged at the questions and pressures for changing that read which he has garnered. I also liked his interactions with you, which were at some points focused on the JDeitz issue and the fact that he tried to shut down the conversation when it got away from scumhunting/asking legitimate questions (like when you posted "Even July has lynched you before. Swiss can deffo pull it off so don't be like that. xD") and his response was "Stopping this conversation right here. I have no interest in discussing bravado.").
Weak suspicions on Swiss (once again, at the time of this post) were that he was pushing someone I have as a strong town read on and it was a push that wasn't really substantiated.
Were the strongest part of your case to me, and I did have to go back and look at the context of those because you make some valid points. That doesn't invalidate the points made about why he looks like newb town though. However, why is it so imperative to you that JDeitz is lynch toDay over one of your other scum read? You seem extremely confident that you've nailed JDeitz as scum, do you really think he's that much of a threat that he is the only play possible toDay?
When do you think this will be?
Kk that's fine. What post of mine is this in response to btw?
This part.
Ah kk.
I think he's doing it purposely because he's content with his reads right now and has a clear idea of what direction he wants town to go in right now. He could do that as scum, but I think he's much more likely to do so as town, thinking that his scumreads are correct and thus it is in town's best interests to push his scumreads until they are the play for the Day.
