Shining Force II Mafia || Game Over! Who lived happily ever after?

[~Bleck Mang~]

It just cropped up in conversation, not like we full claimed or anything.

Reminds me of a situation that I extremely hate for my stupidity as a n00b in the past.

It's still against the rules. =/

 

[Jdietz43]

Dietz, what do you think of NL's sudden flip on you? Suspicious amirite?
What do you think of Kuz' defence of you? Regardless of whether it's 'right'.

I don't like it, I feel like he betrayed me. He was the one who most supported me when I was trying to sort things out. Especially since it seems like only half of his hydra actually supports it and he didn't give any info when he just changed his vote to me. (:< face goes here)

Kuz still seems fine. I can follow all his logic, even when he voted me at the start of the game. It only seems natural for a townie to defend someone who is also townie. NL was the same until a little bit ago.

Also myself and Ryker were just chatting on skype and agree Dietz should full claim.

1) You wish scum. You two are the ones I have pegged most, I'm not about to spell it out for you if you haven't figured it out already.

2)
@Mod: Is that legal? I thought we weren't supposed to talk about the mafia game to each other anywhere but in the thread unless you gave us a quick topic thingy to talk in

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

That is very against the rules.

 

[~Bleck Mang~]

The only possibility that they can both talk out of game is them both being scum together or mason/neighbor thing. =x

 

[Jdietz43]

Well this just got awkward...

 

[Swiss]

Yeah Dietz is definitely scum.

Course I didn't talk outside of thread.

 

[~Bleck Mang~]

How did that gambit accomplish anything if all 3 of me/RR/Ditzy answered in a similar manner? =/

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Another gambit?

Ok, what did you even learn from it, this is as dumb as the last one.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

ninja'd hard.

 

[Jdietz43]

But I don't even believe you didn't... lol

It would certainly explain the fact that you and Ryker seem to be on the same page without talking in thread

Also, if anything I dislike you even more now

(what the other's ninja'd)

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Ok Swiss, explain what you learned from this that is definite scum, I don't even see that and see it as legitimate questioning back at you for admitting that.

 

[Swiss]

Dietz and RR reacted aggressive.

You didn't, J.

 

[Jdietz43]

I don't trust Swiss anymore, not even out of game-wise.

I'm going to wait for Van to get here and see if this is acceptable or not.

 

[~Bleck Mang~]

Isn't it null to react to a gambit like that? @.@

Well in my eyes it seems null and RR is usually aggressive so I don't get how if aggressiveness=scummy they are both scum cuz of this.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

I don't like it, I feel like he betrayed me. He was the one who most supported me when I was trying to sort things out. Especially since it seems like only half of his hydra actually supports it and he didn't give any info when he just changed his vote to me. (:< face goes here)

Kuz still seems fine. I can follow all his logic, even when he voted me at the start of the game. It only seems natural for a townie to defend someone who is also townie. NL was the same until a little bit ago.



1) You wish scum. You two are the ones I have pegged most, I'm not about to spell it out for you if you haven't figured it out already.

2)@Mod: Is that legal? I thought we weren't supposed to talk about the mafia game to each other anywhere but in the thread unless you gave us a quick topic thingy to talk in

This entire post is bad. The first half shows a terrible lack of consideration and the second half shows him trying to actually nail Swiss as scum for openly posting in thread that he'd talked in private. It REALLY doesn't take anything but two brain cells to rub together in order to figure out that it's null.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Also, I am walking out the door any second, but I'll pay more attention now that FFT is in night phase.

Fair warning. I'm gone on Sat and possibly Fri as well.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Dietz and RR reacted aggressive.

You didn't, J.

That is entirely null, alignment has nothing to do with breaking the rules.

People got super pissed at Chibo when he tried to break RE4 because of color shenanigans. Gurren Lagaan people got mad at JTB and WL for talking outside of the game about which faction should win in a king maker. Soup has been mod killed quite a few times and it pissed people off numerous times.

It doesn't tell for alignment.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

That is entirely null, alignment has nothing to do with breaking the rules.

People got super pissed at Chibo when he tried to break RE4 because of color shenanigans. Gurren Lagaan people got mad at JTB and WL for talking outside of the game about which faction should win in a king maker. Soup has been mod killed quite a few times and it pissed people off numerous times.

It doesn't tell for alignment.

RR, either you're scum game really is this bad or you're actually regressing as a player.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

This entire post is bad. The first half shows a terrible lack of consideration and the second half shows him trying to actually nail Swiss as scum for openly posting in thread that he'd talked in private. It REALLY doesn't take anything but two brain cells to rub together in order to figure out that it's null.

I can agree that his call out to him being scum is bad on Jay's part.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

RR, either you're scum game really is this bad or you're actually regressing as a player.

Your an idiot.

Even soft claiming that crap is dumb.

 

[Swiss]

RR, either you're scum game really is this bad or you're actually regressing as a player.

To be fair both are plausible.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Hmmm.

Jay, depsite how I hate how Swiss went about this, heck I hated him claiming he was your neighbor since that accomplishes nothing read wise, how the hell is a new player suppose to know to go along with that?

I think you should full claim.

This may change my read on you because...the reason I am hesitant to post Part 2 on Swiss, is because I can see what he is saying about your play.

Your playing a lot to not knowing much, and after two games, even I knew something of how the game worked.

But how your reacting to this whole thing, something about it when reading Swiss' case, I can see that something could be off in regards to reads. I think I need to scrap my Swiss wagon for a second to see if I am legit wrong here. Something, even more so when I consider what Ryker said about how you posted your quickness to call Swiss scum for that, I think you full claiming is needed at this point.

I can defiantly see a majority wanting you dead at this point, and my read, along with theirs can change depending on it.

Swiss may have gambitted that, but I think it has merit to you claiming, even if it is early.

I think you should Jay.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

To be fair both are plausible.

I really hate you an Ryker being arrogant about this.

 

[Swiss]

I really hate you an Ryker being arrogant about this.

I'd be mad if I were handicapped too.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I'd be mad if I were handicapped too.

I get it, I'm not as good at either of you at mafia.

Don't be a **** about it.

 

[Swiss]

Would you be mad if this was me showing restraint?

 

[~Bleck Mang~]

@July's wall

J advice crap bla bla bla hopefully he responded...

Then there's this post, which was really unnerving for me. You've been quite vocal about supporting me and finding me town this game, and like a lot of the other things I've addressed, it's determining whether or not this is the case or if you are being nice to me because both you think that being nice to me will make me soften my scum read (which has been an issue for me in the past, admittedly). Also the

July, as far as mafia games go, I either read you as scummy or just don't go out of my way to read you out of laziness. I'm reading your posts and they've got legit shiz in there and, quite frankly, you're probz the most obvtown player to me in this game so far. It feels good to have an obvtown read on you. That's about it yo *shrug*

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Very much so and still am Swiss.

So, Swiss, going to reconsider Jay for a bit, mostly due to the case you posted, it was the last thing on my part 2 and it made me reconsider it a bit thinking it all over.

I can see the thought process, but still needs answering for if it is his noobscum over his newtown. It's not an easy tell for me at this point, even maybe me knowing him a bit has made me think he is more likely not lying to me here.

So considering this, Where would you look if he flipped scum. I have a good idea, but let's hear what you have to say Swiss.

 

[Swiss]

Very much so and still am Swiss.

So, Swiss, going to reconsider Jay for a bit, mostly due to the case you posted, it was the last thing on my part 2 and it made me reconsider it a bit thinking it all over.

I can see the thought process, but still needs answering for if it is his noobscum over his newtown. It's not an easy tell for me at this point, even maybe me knowing him a bit has made me think he is more likely not lying to me here.

So considering this, Where would you look if he flipped scum. I have a good idea, but let's hear what you have to say Swiss.

Cool, you're town.

If he flips scum - DH and Kuz. Kuz for protecting him in an odd way, DH for, well - I want him dead regardless to be honest.

I should probably consider townflip too. I'm sure I'll get to that at some point.

 

[~Bleck Mang~]

@July how the tit could you stand to write ALL THOSE WALLS?

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Out for a smashfest.

 

[~Bleck Mang~]

@The bottom of pg 24 @Those who are taking Swiss' "talking to Ryker thing" seriously you guys are ********.

 

[~Bleck Mang~]

I don't like it, I feel like he betrayed me. He was the one who most supported me when I was trying to sort things out. Especially since it seems like only half of his hydra actually supports it and he didn't give any info when he just changed his vote to me. (:< face goes here)

Kuz still seems fine. I can follow all his logic, even when he voted me at the start of the game. It only seems natural for a townie to defend someone who is also townie. NL was the same until a little bit ago.



1) You wish scum. You two are the ones I have pegged most, I'm not about to spell it out for you if you haven't figured it out already.

2)
@Mod: Is that legal? I thought we weren't supposed to talk about the mafia game to each other anywhere but in the thread unless you gave us a quick topic thingy to talk in

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Unvote Vote: JDietz

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Cool, you're town.

If he flips scum - DH and Kuz. Kuz for protecting him in an odd way, DH for, well - I want him dead regardless to be honest.

I should probably consider townflip too. I'm sure I'll get to that at some point.

I could see Kuz making a bad read there though.

On a town flip, NL is someone I think is suspect, the flip off from the I think he is town but will still lynch him is very awkward.

If he flips scum, I get quite a few town reads. Scum is harder since it lacks connections from some inactivity, Dabuz, Felipe, Dark Horse, etc.

I can't agree to Dark Horse because, well I can see him being that defensive as town. It's not conclusive. Jay seems more conclusive, and NL's odd behavior, even Kuz to an extent, makes me think there could be a connection there.

Either way there is something I want to see to help define my read, a claim, you agree to this right now that Jay/Deitz should claim?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Hi Gorf. How are ya?

 

[Raziek]

@July how the tit could you stand to write ALL THOSE WALLS?

This post in particular isn't THAT offensive, but please stop censor dodging, I've been reading this game and you're stretching my limits of letting it slide.

Carry on gentlemen.

 

[No Lynch]

dude im just gonna use the day kill on ryu if you dont post back dont get mad ok? i serios th

 

[No Lynch]

the **** the ****

 

[~Bleck Mang~]

Oh man Raz laying down the LAW!

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

dude im just gonna use the day kill on ryu if you dont post back dont get mad ok? i serios th

Umm...wat. :king: