Shining Force II Mafia || Game Over! Who lived happily ever after?

[No Lynch]

im going to go die now. im serious ****ing ******

 

[~Bleck Mang~]

But if serious then lol.

 

[~Bleck Mang~]

Hi Gorf. How are ya?

I've been better, how you doin?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Good,

Tell me about the inactive, Felipe, Dabuz, and Orboknown. Even if they haven't posted much, tell me what you think of them as little as you can.

 

[No Lynch]

@Rockin: Yeah we still think DH is scum. Why do you ask?
@dabuz why you use my color yo

 

[~Bleck Mang~]

Felipe I don't care about. I'd rather have him replaced but all in all disposable. Orbo's on the same boat if he keeps up his play and doesn't get current. Dabuz I legitimately don't like; he's not putting his head out there as far as scumhunting goes. ALL I've seen em do is answer questions. Sure, he had a readslist, and sure he said he was weary of July tunneling my slot, but I've read through all of his posts (which I'm sure is under 10) and he's really done almost nothing. I'm cool with any of these lynches I guess, but I'd prefer them as vigbait and lynch Dietz. Or DH. Or you.

 

[Rockin]

@July how the tit could you stand to write ALL THOSE WALLS?

You should be used to this by now. Hell, a lot of the Mafia Vets (especially Evil Eye) did a lot of it from time to time.

Really, I never saw the problem with July writing those walls, or anyone else for that matter lol

@Rockin: Yeah we still think DH is scum. Why do you ask?
@dabuz why you use my color yo

Cause you're flip flopping from one place to another. lol

 

[No Lynch]

Daykill: Red Ryu

The reddest of Ryus

 

[No Lynch]

Let's end the day. Whoever isn't voting dietz let's go.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Why does everyone do a stupid dayvig gambit in every game.

I've only seen Ryker actually follow up on that against Kuz in Utrick'd.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Let's end the day. Whoever isn't voting dietz let's go.

Let him claim first, and also wait for a votecount.

 

[No Lynch]

Because dayvigs are the most common role in mafia, especially in 13 man setups.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

K .

 

[No Lynch]

I very much dislike how all the sudden your read on dietz is changing after I voted him. I hope soupa sees this as well. The only reason why I'm not voting you is because I need his OK. Swiss' case added nothing to the dietz issue. It's the same stuff that we've been debating over. You claiming that to be your reason for now wanting him to claim is lame. You've been claiming you have this big case on Swiss for a while now. I don't see at all why you're now claiming that you suddenly can't read dietz anymore and it's keeping you back from making your case on Swiss.

What was the point of your #1004? I want to know what you were looking for and if you got it from his response.

 

[No Lynch]

July so you still think Ryu is scum? Did you at the time of your unvote think he was scum still? Or did you actually see him as townie at that point?

 

[Jdietz43]

I can agree that his call out to him being scum is bad on Jay's part.

Lolwut?? Why are people irked about this? It's been plainly obvious that I think Swiss and Ryker are the most scummy since quite awhile ago. Of course I'm going to refuse them if they ask me to do something that town already told me was a terrible idea and not to do quite awhile ago. It's no secret if that's what you think. Especially after this last "gambit" of his.


And I'm legit waiting on a mod decision. Claiming to have cheated to ruffle the feathers of another player seems like dirty pool at it's finest. I mad. (a large part of me also thinks this only became a "gambit" after he realized the implications of what he said were)




I'm on the fence about claiming atm, NL is making himself look seriously bad all of a sudden and I don't know what's going on anymore, and you're doing cartwheels too. Plus I'm not sure if Swiss is going to be evicted etc. etc. I may claim shortly if it comes to it. (but maybe it wouldn't be such a bad thing to just be done with the game if it's going to play like this)

 

[Jdietz43]

Tell you what: You get 3 different people that aren't Swiss or Ryker to want me to claim and I'll go ahead and give out the info, that seems fine

 

[Swiss]

Lolwut?? Why are people irked about this? It's been plainly obvious that I think Swiss and Ryker are the most scummy since quite awhile ago. Of course I'm going to refuse them if they ask me to do something that town already told me was a terrible idea and not to do quite awhile ago. It's no secret if that's what you think. Especially after this last "gambit" of his.


And I'm legit waiting on a mod decision. Claiming to have cheated to ruffle the feathers of another player seems like dirty pool at it's finest. I mad. (a large part of me also thinks this only became a "gambit" after he realized the implications of what he said were)




I'm on the fence about claiming atm, NL is making himself look seriously bad all of a sudden and I don't know what's going on anymore, and you're doing cartwheels too. Plus I'm not sure if Swiss is going to be evicted etc. etc. I may claim shortly if it comes to it. (but maybe it wouldn't be such a bad thing to just be done with the game if it's going to play like this)

See bolded; scum.

Even Kuz has to call GG on that.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Felipe I don't care about. I'd rather have him replaced but all in all disposable. Orbo's on the same boat if he keeps up his play and doesn't get current. Dabuz I legitimately don't like; he's not putting his head out there as far as scumhunting goes. ALL I've seen em do is answer questions. Sure, he had a readslist, and sure he said he was weary of July tunneling my slot, but I've read through all of his posts (which I'm sure is under 10) and he's really done almost nothing. I'm cool with any of these lynches I guess, but I'd prefer them as vigbait and lynch Dietz. Or DH. Or you.

All are disposable, ok.

Who do you want to keep around then?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Tell you what: You get 3 different people that aren't Swiss or Ryker to want me to claim and I'll go ahead and give out the info, that seems fine

I'm one, I do know you will get 2 more though.

 

[~Bleck Mang~]

Yo mang, just claim already and don't *****foot around it anymore.

 

[Jdietz43]

I'm one, I do know you will get 2 more though.

Yeah, I'm sure I will lol, but I want to make sure it's not just the people I'm most suspicious of baiting me

See bolded; scum.

Even Kuz has to call GG on that.

Swiss: This isn't about you being scum. This is about you being a bad player.

 

[Jdietz43]

Alright, RR, Bleck Mang, and NL make 3

 

[~Bleck Mang~]

All are disposable, ok.

Who do you want to keep around then?

My town reads.

Nah but seriously Swiss, July and Ryker are cool in my book for now. Kuzi is too but J doesn't think so and he's being a little ***** about it so yea.

 

[Jdietz43]

I'm Elric the Miller, neighbors with Rockin

That should put a looooot of my gameplay in context for those who didn't catch my hints

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Did you crumb this?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Also second question, why didn't you claim miller when the game started?

 

[Jdietz43]

Yep. (saw what breadcrumbing was in a wiki lol)

You can go ahead and jump back to my first "feelings" on you for it.

 

[Jdietz43]

Wouldn't that be a bad idea? People would just assume I was really bad scum being obvious

 

[~Bleck Mang~]

Also second question, why didn't you claim miller when the game started?

You are seriously one to talk.

Millers are dumb and so is Jdietz and him not being lynched already is dumb.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

You are seriously one to talk.

Millers are dumb and so is Jdietz and him not being lynched already is dumb.

Teehee Walgreen's hate.

No but serious, millers shoul claim to inform town they are VTs that show up as mafia when investigated. I prevents surprise cop guilties on town and makes people take note of that slot for what they do in the game.

Deitz, can you pull quotes highlighting the claim?

 

[~Bleck Mang~]

Yeah because that totally worked for T-Block in Walgreens.

RR, do you believe his claim at face value or what?

 

[Jdietz43]

Well I didn't know that and def. not what to do as Miller, I was just hoping to be such a cool bro that no one would care about me: and we all know how well that worked out

Yeah I can dig it up

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Yeah because that totally worked for T-Block in Walgreens.

RR, do you believe his claim at face value or what?

Difference, he lied there.

Claiming informed miller is perfectly legitimate.

Depends on the crumb, I want to see where exactly he crumbed it.

 

[~Bleck Mang~]

Difference, he lied there.

Claiming informed miller is perfectly legitimate.

Depends on the crumb, I want to see where exactly he crumbed it.

Get.

Lynched.

Now.

 

[Jdietz43]

K so I already talked about Swiss since it seemed important after he claimed to be my neighbor, but here's my quick 2 cents on everyone else now that I actually have enough to have something to say about most of them:

1. ~Bleck Mang~ (J/Gord Hydra): He's kind of everywhere at once, he's doing a good job asking questions but also has some foibles. If he's town he's just doing ok, but if he's scum he's probably going to be an issue. Needs more investigation, or even better tracker role taking a peek at him so we know if he's helpful or destructive. (scum unless proven innocent)
2. dabuz: posted literally twice with no info, I'm highly leary until he gets active
3. July: Only posted once but that post seemed legit. I feel town unless otherwise changed by some action down the road
4. Rockin: my cool bro neighbor, honestly he seems like town to me just based on the start of our neighbor convos, but people make a good point that if you look at it the right way asking me my role right after confirming I'm new and saying that he didn't want "mafia to take advantage of me". I can't make heads or tails of the Ryker vs Rockin from his side
5. th3kuzinator Bardull: Bardull gave me p. much zero information since he was just annoyed at being made fun of, but once Kuz came in I'm reading him solid town. He's asking good questions in the right way, and even pulled me back out of uncertainty (for better or worse)
6. Dark Horse: I'm weirded out by just how fast he jumped at NL after like the first actual conversation of the game and he was jumpy ever since. Recently been doing good 'town' work, but I still feel residual scum from him here and there
7. Swiss: Already discussed: totally weirded out by. I'm not sure what he's angling for but lying def. didn't help me think he's town
8. Orboknown: Posted like once, same as dabuz, need more input
9. Jdietz43: yay that's me :3
10. felipe_9595: he makes my brain turn to mush. I know he's foreign for the most part but I can't figure out what he's saying at all. I'm not sure he's scum but he's certainly a very unhelpful town if not. I wouldn't mind losing him simply because he's making things really hard to figure out for the rest of us
11. Red Ryu: Mixed feelings. On one hand he's my bro, but on the other I didn't really feel like he was acting like himself for most of the game so far. I'm used to him being super analytical and just a little outspoken when it matters but instead he was mispelling words and not saying much. I know we live in Miller-town but you don't have to hit the sauce every day bro (drunk or scum, it's a thing lol)
12. No Lynch (Zen/Soup Hydra): Gave me a brief uncertainty real early into the game just because he was way active and I didn't know what he was doing. Came though in flying colors recently though, and has been making great posts and stimulating things for town to read from. Solid townie, hopefully a power role
13. Ryker: Unsure, sort of like the Bleck Mang hydra. His arguments with Rockin have left him coming off bad in my eyes though. Light scum read, but nothing condemning


I feel like it's also way past the time in which I have enough opinions to put my vote on the table as well.

I know this is going to be super controversial... like, yeah... but I HAVE to throw mine down on Swiss

Vote: Swiss


I could have bought he was just arrogant and really aggressive at prodding, but after he lied and claimed to be my neighbor I have zero trust left for him and it's clear he's fogging the water. He's falling apart and raging at the same time. Even if he was town, it's not a town I trust to actually help us

Next on the "lolwut scum/useless?" list would be RR, DH, Felipe, and maybe Ryker but that's mostly because I just don't understand his argument with Rockin

10 charz of quoting

 

[No Lynch]

Ryu answer please. Jdietz you claimed to be a power role. You are not?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

That is very late to crumb miller Jay.

Though props for using the miller light as a semi crumb, love that beer lol.

~

Ok here's food for thought Jay, why the wait on the crumb instead of earlier.

 

[Jdietz43]

I said I was non-vanilla and I didn't know how to play as it, but knew I had the capability to screw it up for us if I did it wrong.

You're the one who inferred power role, I thought I was making it obvious.

 

[Jdietz43]

Only found out what bread-crumbing was at that point while looking for mafia info, thought it would be a good idea to try considering my role (and the Miller pun was waaaay too good)

Even if I had known what it was sooner I doubt I would have had the balls to do it before Kuz pulled me out of waffle-mode, I was scared to do anything that meant anything period since it meant town would be more likely to pay attention to me and get a false positive