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Shiek not confirmed in latest CoroCoro

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Blue sHell

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Could someone please make a topic giving out all the names of all the special moves revealed so far.

I've been searching from page to page to try to find all the names, but it's a bit tiresome.

Anyone?

EDIT: *facepalm* Just found the thread on search that I asked for, nvm.
 

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Hey, you gotta hand it to Ike, he has a killer pair of boots, which is the only reason i'll play him off and on. Yes i'm terribly vain, but i want to look good when im beating someone up.

Which, conveniently brings me to a different point of view. Zelda was clearly one of the best looking characters in the game. Nobody can deny that. Shiek was...more power-ranger, and power rangers went WAY out of fashion at least 13 years ago.

So lets say her transformation is Cloaked Zelda. Not only is that more visually appealing than Shiek..okay it's more visually appealing than Shiek, that's what i'm getting at. Because the first thing you do when you select a character is see how they look (at least this was the case in Melee), whch in turn gets people playing the character. Hell this is the reason why character models even got updated since Melee.

And knowing Sakurai, he would fully well know that 'Black Coats' are still popular among gaming characters to give them a 'cooler' look. From an extremely shallow and more fashion conciece point of view, this is another factor in determining the inclusion of a 'cloaked' Zelda model.

Because the better looking the character, the higher chance people are going to be attracted to it right? and Sakurai WANTS us to be attracted to Brawl.

Of course you can take this view as a grain of salt, but it's certainly something to think about.
Most awesome post I read today.

I won't bother replying to what follows afterwards. It's always the same bull****, and in the end, I'll probably be wrong anyway, so what's the point.

However, consider this.

Zelda is a piss-poor character in terms of battle. She has the worst moveset of all except for two moves that are one move that would be broken in the hands of almost any other character.
Sheik is better in every single respect.

So in order to stop acting like a god**** ditz, Zelda has to pretend she's a guy!


SUPPORTING SHEIK MEANS SUPPORTING MISOGYNY

:psycho:
 

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Shiek is coming back. People stop living in denial. Though people will continue to ingore the fact by using faulty logic.
 

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Shiek is coming back. People stop living in denial. Though people will continue to ingore the fact by using faulty logic.
Exactly, I agree with you. Shiek is coming back, probably with some nerfs here and there (though not as bad as Fox though because Zelda needs Shiek to be the damager).
 

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Personally, I would rather she change into the uber-hawt Midna that you see at the end of Twilight Princess. Would be kind of weird, but they could just say that they're merely "changing places using the power of the Twilight Realm", rather than them actually sharing the same body, as was the case with Sheik/Zelda last time.

And to me, this kind of thing would make sense, weirdly enough. 99% of the people following this are pretty much expecting Sheik. If that be the case, then really, what would be the reason to hold their tongue on it so badly? Re-design or not, it wouldn't really be worth the trouble of basically going "LOL, you guys were right, it IS Sheik after all for the Down+B! XD" after months of keeping it a secret. There's gotta be something much more profound in the mix.

Now, whether this means saying good-bye to Sheik-y for good, I couldn't tell ya that. Maybe it's a thing of it being a separate character all to itself now (and thus bumping up the total Zelda allotment to at least 4, not counting WW Link). But again...I think Sakurai is being sly with this for a reason...and not necessarily everyone may be pleased for that reason...
 

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Thank you everyone for backing me up.

Honestly, I could NOT see "Cloaked Zelda" as a Down B move or Sheik as an Assist Trophy. It just wouldn't make sense.
 

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I will laugh and most likely never stop laughing if Sheik is nerfed to high hell and worse than Pichu. Because THAT'S the reason most of you Sheik supporters want her back in (for anyone who missed it, they want her back because Sheik was top tier), and you all know it.

Anyway, Sheik is probably gonna be back, even though it's lame because TP Zelda =/= OoT Zelda.
 

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I love this thread.

Let's take an iconic character and make her so she could never be used ever, instead allowing a character who never faught and appeared in one game perioidically to be better.

Idk if Sheik is in Brawl or not, but she shouldn't be.
 

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"twilight change" sounds like "dark zelda" on twilight princess.. where she is hidding and has a black tunic with the shekiah symbol...
 

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So far the TP has claimed that he has a copy of the magazine, but he has failed to comply to take more pictures of these cards. Apparently you decided it was a good idea to take a picture of the front of the first care, but not any more? For all we know you just stumbled upon a pic with decent quality. As it stands, I don't really trust many people when it comes to unofficial sources of Brawl info, and honestly if you want people to believe you that aren't gullible you should try to prove that you have some sort of credibility.
 

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I personally believe Sheik WILL be back as a PC, but with one of these two changes (along with a nerf, since she was broken, and you know it!):

1. Sheik would be a seperate character.
2. Zelda still transforms into Sheik, BUT there's a nerf to the down B move, where you have to switch once in a while.

Or it'll be like it is in SSBM. I think she'll return either way, BUT with a nerf. A MAJOR nerf. Seriously, having someone that a random player new to the game can pick up, and suddenly be fast and powerful is annoying. She was still possible to defeat, but gosh, she ***** lots of the characters without trouble.

That's just what I believe. I'll laugh my heart out though if she's no longer playable, if only because she was so dang annoying to me!
 

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I will laugh and most likely never stop laughing if Sheik is nerfed to high hell and worse than Pichu. Because THAT'S the reason most of you Sheik supporters want her back in (for anyone who missed it, they want her back because Sheik was top tier), and you all know it.

Anyway, Sheik is probably gonna be back, even though it's lame because TP Zelda =/= OoT Zelda.
I'll be joining you laughing. I will be joining you laughing so hard, I will found a Brotherhood of Sheik-Gloaters where the art of laughing for all eternity shall be perfected and passed on through generations so the children of the Qwantz Utopia of the year 3056 will know how crappy Sheik has become.

Well, maybe at least.

Though even if they decide to stop being complete jerkasses and actually MAKE Sheik the comboer and Zelda the one with the finishers instead of giving Zelda the sexy strength of making for humiliating defeats, she'll still rely on a costume that must apparently have been passed down through generations.
That thing must be stinking like hell by now.
 

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I think it's funny that people don't even consider that Zelda could be gee, I don't know... Better. She can have the same moves and still be better, ya know.
 

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She can have the same moves and still be better, ya know.
If she had the same moves she would still be the lamest most boring character ever. Oh look, you are spamming fairs and bairs! Wow, who could have anticipated that XD!
 

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If she had the same moves she would still be the lamest most boring character ever. Oh look, you are spamming fairs and bairs! Wow, who could have anticipated that XD!
Wow, even if her moves suck you calling her "lame" is purely an opinion. Nice jab though, you hit me right in me vary soul.
 

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Wow, even if her moves suck you calling her "lame" is purely an opinion. Nice jab though, you hit me right in me vary soul.
you should be realizing you said that to a mod

on-topic: i hope sheik is gone, she is not a major part of LoZ series
 

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you should be realizing you said that to a mod

on-topic: i hope sheik is gone, she is not a major part of LoZ series
So, I'm sure the mod in question can take an ever so slight amount of criticism without being immature about it, also my opinions and whatever won't change just because a mod disagreed with me. I'm not trying to be rebellious or any such nonsense.

I think they may combine aspects of her cloaked form with shiek for her brawl look. That way we get both (as I like both shiek and zelda as she is two different parts of one whole character).
 

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..If that's what it truly says in the magazine, then we still know that zelda's final smash is the light arrow. Therefore it's either Sheik (or like brawlcentral said, a transformation into sheik "twilight version), Zelda in her robes (where she will have the same moveset as sheik did, just robed, this would be my favourite outcome btw), or something that no one (or very few) expected. Possibly puppet Zelda or anything really. Could involve midna, could involve a horse, could be made up, etc.

I'm only saying the Sheik things because brawl central's translation said that there was a bdown proven and that it was "twilight-style transformation into Seek (or something like that)", where Seek is the japanese name for sheik. Not to mention it says "twilight-style", which could either mean sheik, but in a twilight-theme, or robed zelda.
 

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Sheik is boring though, lets not lie...
That's a matter of opinion, not fact.
I personally think Sheik is like a ninja and therefore she's cool.
Individual opinions have NOTHING to do with whether a character should be confirmed or not. While she has her haters, she was one of the most widely played characters in Melee among both n00bs and pros, and I'm sure the Brawl development team is quite aware.
 

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That's a matter of opinion, not fact.
I personally think Sheik is like a ninja and therefore she's cool.
Individual opinions have NOTHING to do with whether a character should be confirmed or not. While she has her haters, she was one of the most widely played characters in Melee among both n00bs and pros, and I'm sure the Brawl development team is quite aware.
I still think she was boring. Probably because she only really felt like half a character (which she pretty much was). No need to get all defensive by the way, he wasn't implying anything.

BTW: Not directed at anyone in particular, but is anyone else tired of people saying "oh blah blah that's just your opinion, not a fact, blah blah" whenever someone says something? It's as if people think their opinion is worth so much more than others, but people are all entitled to their own thoughts. Anyway....
 

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I still think she was boring. Probably because she only really felt like half a character (which she pretty much was). No need to get all defensive by the way, he wasn't implying anything.

BTW: Not directed at anyone in particular, but is anyone else tired of people saying "oh blah blah that's just your opinion, not a fact, blah blah" whenever someone says something? It's as if people think their opinion is worth so much more than others, but people are all entitled to their own thoughts. Anyway....
The phrase "that's only your opinion" keeps getting posted because people keep posting their opinions about what should and shouldn't be in Brawl as though it will actually make a difference.
 

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Zelda will transform into Midna. This is a total guess, but it sounds badass. Plus, I imagine they will update it for TP rather than OOT.
 
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