The Dragon
Smash Journeyman
the actual wait of the character plays a roll in this as well, how so i'm not sure either
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Q&A Sheik Strategy & QnA
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elvenarrow3000
Smash Master
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Well heavier characters take longer to throw, which would mean that it'd be harder to react since you have less time... and I understand the point about Marth and Peach, but Fox and Falco seem like they'd be easier to tech chase than Falcon.
I dunno, I never found it too hard to tech chase any of them.
I dunno, I never found it too hard to tech chase any of them.
Witchking_of_Angmar
Smash Lord
Sheik's dthrow (or any of Sheik's throws, for that matter) isn't affected by weight. I just realized somthing though- C. Falcon has the highest falling speed when he's fully accelarated. But his fall speed acceleration is terrible, which means in the short time he's in the air from the dthrow, he falls much slower than spacies. Also, his low fall speed accelaration I THINK has an impact on the dthrow trajectory and would send him higher up. Both of this gives you more time to react fo his tech. This might be another factor that makes tech chasing falcon easier.
elvenarrow3000
Smash Master
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But if he fell higher up... then wouldn't that be similar to like Marth and such? Or is it that Marths just jump out of it?
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
if marth di away you regrab because he is stunlocked
until about like 35ish this works and then they can jump out
if he di behind or behind + up you can't regrab if they jump
if they don't di i don't know percent but they can jump out pretty early if you try to regrab
so no they don't hit the ground unless there's a platform above you or something
until about like 35ish this works and then they can jump out
if he di behind or behind + up you can't regrab if they jump
if they don't di i don't know percent but they can jump out pretty early if you try to regrab
so no they don't hit the ground unless there's a platform above you or something
MikeHaggarTHAKJB
Smash Master
if you time it later it goes a little further
iirc you can cancel the dash attack into a grab during the first 3 frames of the dash attack, and if you do it on the last frame youäll go the furthest. im less sure about this then most stuff i post tho
idk tho rly fox main speaking lol
btw sheiks when you tech chase people do you/can you react to a tech in place?
it depends on how hard you smash the control stick. If you smash it hard enough (smash it long enough for it to register as a dash in 1 frame) you'll turn around in 1 frame. If you do it to slow you'll have to through the whole turning around animation which is relatively long
Hazygoose
Smash Lord
i 0-death tech-chased Sars Pirate's falcon for like 3 consecutive stocks with the dthrow (eventual off the ledge gimping when he tried to escape). it was hysterical :D
i always try to space out in between the in-place and behind me region, and expect a tech in place. if they don't tech, dsmash reaches. if they tech in place, i'm right there waiting for a dash grab. if they tech behind me, i have plenty of time to turn around and dash grab, and if they tech away, i can hopefully dash grab them or at leaast dash attack them before they are fully recovered.
also, people rarely tech dash attacks that knock them down. that means lots of usmash to utilt combo fun on fast fallers :D
but yeah, you can definitely react to it, you just have to "plan on it" since it's quicker. always expect the tech in place, since you have more time to punish for roll techs or not teching at all, usually.
soap
Smash Hero
thats what i do, i mostly dont like getting caught with a tech in place shine so i always look for in place first then react to everything else
~GregDang!~
Smash Master
Its been awhile since I've been in here. This is some great new info to me.
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
no there isn't.
you're lying.
you're lying.
~GregDang!~
Smash Master
Yes, I am. BTW like the Avatar! =D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IG39C1X9efk
This video is sheik related btw. KDJ is amazing and this vid would not be possible without his influence =D.
This video is sheik related btw. KDJ is amazing and this vid would not be possible without his influence =D.
soap
Smash Hero
wow, firefox spike
Yeaaaaauuzzzzzz =D
anyway .... I have more random friendlies if anyone is interested some of them are of my sheik too
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=209363
Plz watch them if you want
soap
Smash Hero
tourney yesterday during the finals after tink does a ftilt edgeguard on another fox " green fox has got those red boots from the blood of fallen falcos"
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Tink is amazing =D
tec0 can you stop having adorable avatars?
But but but....
The bunny guardian has to protect my ... bunny sig?
its too adorable!1 i dont know what to do!
What would I do without anime avatars?
The Dragon
Smash Journeyman
that fire fox spike made me giggle, you are my hero for that
Yaaaaaaaaaay
That match made me lol when I played it
KDJing ftw =D
The Dragon
Smash Journeyman
kdjing should be a lifestyleYaaaaaaaaaay
That match made me lol when I played it
AHHH its too cute! tell me what to do to combat the cuteness!
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
SHFFL nair
and then protect yourself with blue hexagons
and then protect yourself with blue hexagons
soap
Smash Hero
i wish ness' down b had a hitbox and a jump cancel
u could ***** wavemagnet to djc uair n ****, or have guaranteed yo yo glitch setups
u could ***** wavemagnet to djc uair n ****, or have guaranteed yo yo glitch setups
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
ness can't be good.
after 64 that's the law.
after 64 that's the law.
Bil
Smash Ace
Quoted for fu¢king truth.
PA had a tournament and lots of sheiks met =D.
Well... actually I just met Tope and Spawn... so really only 3 sheiks met
Spawn - Nice meeting you man, you're so awesome to play. We definitely need to play more friendlies like for hours and talk moar sheik =D.
Tope - If you ever even go to this thread anymore lol.
Nice meeting you man first off, that beard you have is ridiculous.
Second, your sheik makes me really want to try to incorporate your sheik game into mine. Your sheik was really awesome to play and I'm kicking myself cuz I didn't play it more.
Well... actually I just met Tope and Spawn... so really only 3 sheiks met
Spawn - Nice meeting you man, you're so awesome to play. We definitely need to play more friendlies like for hours
and talk moar sheik =D.Tope - If you ever even go to this thread anymore lol.
Nice meeting you man first off, that beard you have is ridiculous.
Second, your sheik makes me really want to try to incorporate your sheik game into mine. Your sheik was really awesome to play and I'm kicking myself cuz I didn't play it more.
The Dragon
Smash Journeyman
sounds like good times.. wish i went, oh well ill see you all at spawns tournament hopefully
soap
Smash Hero
so my sis puts this pic on my facebook, but nobody will get it haha
edit - my post count is 2222 good
edit - my post count is 2222 good
RaynEX
Colonel RTSD
soap i didn't know you were coming to niagra. lol i get to play you finally. yay
LOL
10LOL's
10LOL's
LooksLikePit
Smash Ace
when is it a good idea to use turn around needle canceling->aerials? I've practiced and stuff with this, but I would like to know more..
Vts
Smash Champion
you like threadless?so my sis puts this pic on my facebook, but nobody will get it haha
edit - my post count is 2222 good
got few shirts from there pretty cool site but like 1/2 the stuff i wanted was sold out lol.
soap
Smash Hero
mainly to edgeguard, but its a good approach sometimes
Bil
Smash Ace
can somebody give me a list of recoveries that are actually hurt by needles...
soap
Smash Hero
it hurts everyone if it takes their jump