Shantae, the Half Genie Protector of Scuttle Town! (A Switch To A New WayForward)

[Paragon-Yoshi]

Not gonna happen. It wouldn't be fair to the creators of those characters if Sakurai nixed 'em 'cause of fans out of their control.

That is under the assumption, that Sakurai only felt this way after the characters have been decided.

 

[meleebrawler]

Is it just me, or is Bolo some kind of zombie magnet? The vacationing zombie girl actually referred to him as a "paragon of manliness".

 

[WingedSupernova]

Matt Bozon has once again answered a "Would you like to see Shantae in Smash?" with a "We'd love to see her included some day." answer.

https://www.usgamer.net/articles/shantae-seven-sirens-interview

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Matt Bozon has once again answered a "Would you like to see Shantae in Smash?" with a "We'd love to see her included some day." answer.

https://www.usgamer.net/articles/shantae-seven-sirens-interview

Meanwhile, he's still considering the episodic game format, after two attempts.

A 3D art style would be nice, but I've never seen WF do any game with those kinds of visuals on everything (HGH being the closest), let alone gameplay, would they even get the budget to do that?

 

[Dukefire]

Meanwhile, he's still considering the episodic game format, after two attempts.

A 3D art style would be nice, but I've never seen WF do any game with those kinds of visuals on everything (HGH being the closest), let alone gameplay, would they even get the budget to do that?

They could try if they wanted to. Though, it is up to Matt to make the final call.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

They could try if they wanted to. Though, it is up to Matt to make the final call.

I get the impression that they want to, but currently don't even have enough budget to do it. Can't even afford using the Unity Engine.

It would have to be an undertaking that takes many years to pull it off, like with A Hat in Time and Clive 'N Wrench.

 

[Shinuto]

It really says something when every interviewer now asks Matt about Shantae in regards to Smash

 

[Dukefire]

I get the impression that they want to, but currently don't even have enough budget to do it. Can't even afford using the Unity Engine.

It would have to be an undertaking that takes many years to pull it off, like with A Hat in Time and Clive 'N Wrench.

Yeah, 3D animation requires more time compared towards 2D style due to the process of build models

 

[WingedSupernova]

I think a rhythm game spin-off makes a lot of sense. Not sure how it would look, but it would have to be more than just a dance parlor with button presses.

Edit: And now every one of the Nintendo news pages are sharing the interview around. I love that Shantae is popular enough to garner this much attention.

 

[RetrogamerMax]

I just finished Seven Sirens last night and it was probably the best Shantae game I ever played. Though It's hard for me to choose which one is better between Seven Sirens and Pirate's Curse. I didn't get everything, but I was close though. It was a chore backtracking though the overworld map and trying to find everything before progressing to the last level.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

I just finished Seven Sirens last night and it was probably the best Shantae game I ever played. Though It's hard for me to choose which one is better between Seven Sirens and Pirate's Curse. I didn't get everything, but I was close though. It was a chore backtracking though the overworld map and trying to find everything before progressing to the last level.

That's the thing, isn't it? I've seen the main concern for the game's pacing being the general lack of quick-travel methods.

They ought to work out the kinks on that for the next game.

 

[Dukefire]

I almost forgot that Wednesday is the DBX battle of Shovel Knight vs Shantae. Let's see who wins depending on who got the most votes

 

[RetrogamerMax]

That's the thing, isn't it? I've seen the main concern for the game's pacing being the general lack of quick-travel methods.

They ought to work out the kinks on that for the next game.

I mean there is the warp pads, but it get's annoying seeing the loading screen every 2 minutes.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

I almost forgot that Wednesday is the DBX battle of Shovel Knight vs Shantae. Let's see who wins depending on who got the most votes

I'm a fan of both as much as the next guy, but I can't say that I really care about fan-fiction that doesn't affect anything.

 

[RetrogamerMax]

I'm a fan of both as much as the next guy, but I can't say that I really care about fan-fiction that doesn't affect anything.

The only video game filler I really care about is Super Smash Bros.

 

[Dukefire]

I'm a fan of both as much as the next guy, but I can't say that I really care about fan-fiction that doesn't affect anything.

Same here, it doesn't matter who wins. Though, I wonder who the sprite battle animation is presented.

Also, the warp system does work, but doesn't really help when diving into other places when locating stuff for 100% completion.

Finally, I finished the game with not getting everything in the first run. It was a fun journey with the characters and continuing the story around the genies and Shantae's mother mystery.

 

[RetrogamerMax]

I got 9 complete Squid Hearts and 4 boss cards. I couldn't find enough Golden Nuggets to obtain all the boss cards though and I couldn't find those last 4 Squid Hearts.

 

[logicandreason]

I got 9 complete Squid Hearts and 4 boss cards. I couldn't find enough Golden Nuggets to obtain all the boss cards though and I couldn't find those last 4 Squid Hearts.

Fun fact: nuggets can be invisible. Hope you like the seer dance.

 

[RetrogamerMax]

Fun fact: nuggets can be invisible. Hope you like the seer dance.

I know. Where ever Risky's men are digging or at a random dead end in the map a Gold Nugget could be there if you use the earthquake dance.

 

[logicandreason]

I know. Where ever Risky's men are digging or at a random dead end in the map a Gold Nugget could be there if you use the earthquake dance.

Some of them are not as obvious.

Spoiler: One I personally despised.

Did you get the one in the room right before the first dungeon

 

[RetrogamerMax]

Some of them are not as obvious.

Spoiler: One I personally despised.

Did you get the one in the room right before the first dungeon

I don't think I did. It was invisible right? I guess you would have to use the invisible dance.

 

[logicandreason]

I don't think I did. It was invisible right? I guess you would have to use the invisible dance.

yea its invisible. I think only the nuggets can be like that though, I dont recall the heart squids being invisible. (side note I love they brought the heart squids and squid smith back)

 

[RetrogamerMax]

yea its invisible. I think only the nuggets can be like that though, I dont recall the heart squids being invisible. (side note I love they brought the heart squids and squid smith back)

I think the squid smith was in Half Genie Hero as well.

 

[Dukefire]

I think the squid smith was in Half Genie Hero as well.

no she wasn't in HGH. The heart holders were there by finding them in chests

 

[RetrogamerMax]

no she wasn't in HGH. The heart holders were there by finding them in chests

I totally forgot about that. I haven't played HGH in awhile.

 

[meleebrawler]

Spoiler: More character comparisons

If Lobster Girl is a Siren, doesn't that kind of make her similar to the Baby Metroid? She should technically have the ability to drain life, and it would be interesting to see her use it to protect someone else, as well as the effect it may have on her...

 

[RetrogamerMax]

Spoiler: More character comparisons

If Lobster Girl is a Siren, doesn't that kind of make her similar to the Baby Metroid? She should technically have the ability to drain life, and it would be interesting to see her use it to protect someone else, as well as the effect it may have on her...

Probably so. We should have got more from her in the game like a heroic sacrifice or something.

 

[meleebrawler]

Probably so. We should have got more from her in the game like a heroic sacrifice or something.

That wouldn't have made much of an impact with how little time she's had to grow on us. And nobody important or popular ever dies in a Shantae game unless you're a final boss not named Risky.

Spoiler

To say nothing of how she can just teleport herself and others out of danger, which probably renders any kind of sacrifice for the sake of others unnecessary.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Overall, I feel like the Sirens were mostly wasted. If they are going to be one-shots, they shoulda had a bit more fleshing-out.

That being said, I don't think we'll see a 3D Shantae any time soon, as expected.

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/20...ider_a_3d_shantae_game_when_the_time_is_right

We’ve talked for years about taking Shantae into a 3D polygonal world. But that’s never happened. I can’t say if this generation will be “the one,” but it’s something we’ll probably consider again when the time is right.

 

[WingedSupernova]

No Smash news this week it seems. We're getting a Pokemon info dump tomorrow. The Pokemon company usually does their own thing though, so maybe it'll still be on Thursday. I think there was a trend about directs or other events happening shortly after Pokemon info, but who knows.

 

[meleebrawler]

Overall, I feel like the Sirens were mostly wasted. If they are going to be one-shots, they shoulda had a bit more fleshing-out.

The speedrun photo convinces me that the possibility they are not one-shots is there, it's just a matter of finding the opportune moment and maybe fan input at this point.

They still manage to have distinct personalities showing, and honestly, I actually like not having much concrete info because filling in your own interpretation is fun.

Spoiler

Such as the Octo Siren having a lethargic attitude due to severe boredom from no one venturing down to her ever posing a remote challenge for her, until Shantae snaps her out of it (and out of her octopus host). Then, with renewed enthusiasm, sneaks into Squid Baron's man cave, messes with all his stuff due to curiosity and eventually possesses him to be fought in the next game.

 

[Paragon-Yoshi]

Overall, I feel like the Sirens were mostly wasted. If they are going to be one-shots, they shoulda had a bit more fleshing-out.

That being said, I don't think we'll see a 3D Shantae any time soon, as expected.

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/20...ider_a_3d_shantae_game_when_the_time_is_right

Not really surprising.
I mean they used to argue that a 3D-Shantae wouldn't work, because her long hair would cover her up from a back view.

 

[WingedSupernova]

Holy-
https://www.nintendoworldreport.com...nd-the-seven-sirens-interview-with-matt-bozon
WF Twitter linking to this interview, and Matt is lowkey hinting at future unannounced games.

"There are some great business partners out there, and industry deals continue to evolve. These new models led to River City Girls, Seven Sirens, Vitamin Connection, and even a few other yet-to-be-announced titles. "

Keep in mind that Wayforward will be at New Game + Expo one week from today on the 23rd.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Well of course, they have been putting them out at a quick clip recently.

MB: No, in fact we’ve been in Shantae mode for 10 years solid with each game rolling straight into the next! Not to say we don’t take vacations. But momentum has been continuous since starting Pirate’s Curse for Nintendo 3DS.

In before the obligatory "overworking" comments crop up.

 

[WingedSupernova]

Well of course, they have been putting them out at a quick clip recently.



In before the obligatory "overworking" comments crop up.

That comment about continuous Shantae development is even more amazing when you consider that part of their team left after Pirate's Curse and formed Yacht Club Games.

 

[Dukefire]

Let see what WayForward has plans next after their latest one of Shantae and the Seven Sirens. Though, I think they may add Additional content to the game later by DLC.

 

[meleebrawler]

Holy-
https://www.nintendoworldreport.com...nd-the-seven-sirens-interview-with-matt-bozon
WF Twitter linking to this interview, and Matt is lowkey hinting at future unannounced games.

"There are some great business partners out there, and industry deals continue to evolve. These new models led to River City Girls, Seven Sirens, Vitamin Connection, and even a few other yet-to-be-announced titles. "

Keep in mind that Wayforward will be at New Game + Expo one week from today on the 23rd.

I feel like Matt said this already in an interview before Seven Siren's full release.

 

[RetrogamerMax]

Hopefully we will get a remake of the original Shantae in the future.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Let see what WayForward has plans next after their latest one of Shantae and the Seven Sirens. Though, I think they may add Additional content to the game later by DLC.

I don't really think that one is a guarantee, as nothing is set in stone. Remember that they needed fan funding to do most of the DLC last time, and their stuff is generally one-and-done otherwise. Heck, we still haven't heard if they'll do anything more for River City Girls beyond the post-launch patch.

 

[RetrogamerMax]

So who would win in a fight the Pirate Master or Empress Siren? I think the Pirate Master would kick her majesty's ***.