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Shantae, the Half Genie Protector of Scuttle Town! (A Switch To A New WayForward)

Do you think shantae can make it?

  • Yes, as a fighter

  • Yes, as a assist trophy

  • No, not as a assist trophy

  • No, not at all


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Dukefire

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For now, with tention rising towards the VGA coming weeks away. I'm seeing many people are grabbing just anything that seems believable back 2 back.

That will end up making them look like a certain crab with a crazy for profit
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zferolie

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Sabi's NoA source I think knew about Banjo & Kazooie as early as last November, while the whole discord didn't find out until April 2 months in advance from their reveal.
Banjo was not the best kept secret, as was Hero. Joker and Terry though seemed to have very few insiders knowing about them. I think if snk didnt get leaked less would have known too. She really reimu or shantae or anyone not having many voices inside arent hurt
 

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Banjo was not the best kept secret, as was Hero. Joker and Terry though seemed to have very few insiders knowing about them. I think if snk didnt get leaked less would have known too. She really reimu or shantae or anyone not having many voices inside arent hurt
I guess. But are we really in any position to say they didn't know anything about these characters when most of us didn't know anything at all but the speculation talk going on in the chambers?
 
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zferolie

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I guess. But are we really in any position to say they didn't know anything about these characters when most of us didn't know anything at all but the speculation talk going on in the chambers?
Didnt sabi and verge outright say Joker was a complete surprise to them and their sources?
 

Dukefire

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I think the best option with high tension is to not think too much. Just doing nothing temporarily till rock solid evidense pops up.
 

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Didnt sabi and verge outright say Joker was a complete surprise to them and their sources?
I don't remember. But the thing is: none of the insiders or credible leakers don't know the full list of characters that get into the game. Just because they didn't know about a certain character or dozen, that ruin their credibility as it would be impossible to have all that information unless you were Sakurai himself or the CEO of NoJ.
 

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All Smashboards users, the Game of the Year nominees have been revealed, and Super Smash Bros. Ultimate is on there! (Plus a nominee for best fighting game.)

Everyone, PLEASE vote for Smash, we all know the countless hours of love and passion poured into the game. Sakurai and his team deserve these awards. Please, pass this around wherever you can and spread the word! Let's all show Sakurai how grateful we are for all him and his team have done for us!


Best Fighting Game:
https://twitter.com/thegameawards/status/1196848900977545217?s=19


Game of the Year:
https://twitter.com/thegameawards/status/1196838294392332289?s=19

(Of course, if you feel like another game should win these categories you do you, but for those who don't... please vote!)
 

Dukefire

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Honestly, I'm just about ready for anything at this point. Though, I'm on the ground planted with some disappointment.
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zferolie

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Pretty sure no way smash is losing fighting game of the year. None of the others are as good as smash
 

EarlTamm

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Pretty sure no way smash is losing fighting game of the year. None of the others are as good as smash
I think it's a more of a matter of audience when it comes to winning, which is something Smash also has a great supply of.
 

Dukefire

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I think it's a more of a matter of audience when it comes to winning, which is something Smash also has a great supply of.
And smash is drawing in more people with more new challengers coming. (Even after Fighters Pass, there is still more DLC to come.) Sakurai is wanting to make this game the best for everyone for new and old players to play for years to come. Regarding limitations that are made by sterotypes and/or opinions to trigger people.
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KingBowser86

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So while Reimu appears to be out of luck for FP5, Lloyd is still free game.

Don't hate me for saying this, but nothing about him strikes me as interesting. In comparison to someone like Isaac, he appears to be boring in terms of what he can do. He doesn't come across as someone I imagine being fun to play as.
Seems like another input character, though with two swords. But if that means being as fluid as Blazblue's Nu in the Project M mod, then that combined with the 3 levels of Artes might make for an interesting enough fighter.
https://youtu.be/X6GkwOW5kOM
Could also have Colette and/or Genis do a Tag Team mechanic or give him one 25% healing potion or something every stock.

Quote can get extra air if a "rocket launching" mechanic is used. Piranha Plant has moves. Something like Goomba, even, could borrow from Paper Mario. There's very little standing in "boring" characters' way using imagination.
 
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Well well well, Cadence of Hyrule has been nominated for Score & Music category at the VGAs. Especially important seeing as this is the first official Ninty-endorsed first-party/indie collab production. Also, Ultimate is nominated for Game of the Year, plus the Family Game category has nothing but Nintendo games, including Ultimate.

At this point, it'd be really weird if they didn't announce anything.
 

moraven116

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Seeing these always make me hyped even if I know it’s still a long shot
 
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Dont do media only posts, write some stuff in your post.
 

Dukefire

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I will say that they could add some music from Shantae's most recent title from the Seven Sirens.
 

KingBowser86

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I will say that they could add some music from Shantae's most recent title from the Seven Sirens.
Announce FP2 at VGA's, release SatSS, so that SatSS content makes its way into Smash early next year?

Now that does seem like something WF would do, particularly if they make the Smash amiibo unlock something they add to SatSS later. Although the amiibo unlock would be kinda 'meh' if they did that so that the other platforms' customers don't feel left out.
 
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Dukefire

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The fight for the Game of the Year has started.
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Well well well, Cadence of Hyrule has been nominated for Score & Music category at the VGAs. Especially important seeing as this is the first official Ninty-endorsed first-party/indie collab production. Also, Ultimate is nominated for Game of the Year, plus the Family Game category has nothing but Nintendo games, including Ultimate.

At this point, it'd be really weird if they didn't announce anything.
Maybe, though it'd be sort of anticlimactic if Ultimate ends up the victim of upsets. They could announce things before results to avoid this, but that might break pacing.
 

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Edit: Well, if spirits that aren't in the base game deconfirm things, then even Gen 8 of all things isn't taken into consideration for this run.

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/20...pirits_are_being_added_to_smash_bros_ultimate

Maybe, though it'd be sort of anticlimactic if Ultimate ends up the victim of upsets. They could announce things before results to avoid this, but that might break pacing.
At any rate, they'll figure something out to segue into reveals smoothly enough.

And besides, the VGAs aren't exactly seen as the best or the most coherent event anyway, I mean we had Pepe last year. Not that I mind Pepe, he's awesome, but why was he there again?
 
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Biometal

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Dont do media only posts, write some stuff in your post.
I've been tempted to post media-only a few times, too, but I instantly get a warning in DM literally any time I don't put media in a spoiler, while I see others not doing it all the time.


Welp.

Also, unrelated, but I found a thing.
 

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Basically, the guys over at GameFAQs don't really like us for some reason. I voted Shantae over there just to amuse them, but I know that they hate our guts for supporting what they consider "a nobody".

And they've made their voice obvious and obnoxiously loud.
 

M00NFIRE94

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Basically, the guys over at GameFAQs don't really like us for some reason. I voted Shantae over there just to amuse them, but I know that they hate our guts for supporting what they consider "a nobody".

And they've made their voice obvious and obnoxiously loud.
Well you know us Shantae fans. Apparently we steal pets, yell at grandmas, and spoil Star Wars sequels for everybody.

Haters are just fans like us but got so impatient waiting for their picks, they lash at everyone like Vader did before he knew he was Luke's dad. Uhhh I mean-
 
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Basically, the guys over at GameFAQs don't really like us for some reason. I voted Shantae over there just to amuse them, but I know that they hate our guts for supporting what they consider "a nobody".

And they've made their voice obvious and obnoxiously loud.
And people at the Geno thread say the people over at GameFaqs hate Geno SUPER badly. Don't get me wrong, I agree with them on GameFaqs disliking Geno, but their hate for Shantae goes way beyond Geno's in my opinion.
 

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And people at the Geno thread say the people over at GameFaqs hate Geno SUPER badly. Don't get me wrong, I agree with them on GameFaqs disliking Geno, but their hate for Shantae goes way beyond Geno's in my opinion.
Any highly-requested character gets hate there. They seem to believe that Nintendo and/or Sakurai are paying attention and will decide against said character if the hate is loud enough.
I honestly didn't notice any Shantae hate there until shortly after Shovel Knight got denied.
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The only characters I never see hate for there is Doom Guy and any other gore-oriented character.
 
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Any highly-requested character gets hate there. They seem to believe that Nintendo and/or Sakurai are paying attention and will decide against said character if the hate is loud enough.
I honestly didn't notice any Shantae hate there until shortly after Shovel Knight got denied.

The only characters I never see hate for there is Doom Guy and any other gore-oriented character.
At the same time, these are the same people who threw a hissy fit over Rocket League beating Undertale. They have already proven themselves to be not only short tempered, but also petty beyond reason. Like I said, I only voted for Shantae over there to "humor" them, since it will only be sweeter to see them lose their minds when she does get included.
As well, I am getting admittedly ticked off with some people (still) hating Shovel Knight and/or Steve for no other reason than the loudest vocal minority trashing Shantae for them. Sure, they're rivals to her, but they have done nothing more than what she has done herself: given us all damn good games. Shovel Knight is a damn good 2D platformer. Minecraft is a damn good 3D action-adventure game and is still alive even after 10 years of life. I love these games because they have made an impact with what they've done, and I love the characters in their games, even if Steve is a blockhead avatar. They have legitimate reasons to want to see Shovel Knight or Steve decking it out with Mario and Co, very much the same reason that we want Shantae to make it.
As for Doomguy/Master Chief/the other blood and gore characters, they do have their merits, though could they be censored reasonably for Sakurai to allow them in? With Master Chief: Absolutely, just remove the blood, have him use more Covenant weaponry that fires plasma or shards instead of hard lead, and we have a reasonable inclusion into Smash! With Doomguy/Scorpion, etc. it's harder for either of them, but not necessarily impossible. (even with Scorpion, since he was a part of a T-Rated MK vs DC Universe game, so he's no stranger to his gore being turned down)
 

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As for Doomguy/Master Chief/the other blood and gore characters, they do have their merits, though could they be censored reasonably for Sakurai to allow them in? With Master Chief: Absolutely, just remove the blood, have him use more Covenant weaponry that fires plasma or shards instead of hard lead, and we have a reasonable inclusion into Smash! With Doomguy/Scorpion, etc. it's harder for either of them, but not necessarily impossible. (even with Scorpion, since he was a part of a T-Rated MK vs DC Universe game, so he's no stranger to his gore being turned down)
If Bayonetta can get in, any M rated character can. Blood & gore don't have to follow them everywhere they go so Doomguy's fine.
 

KingBowser86

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And people at the Geno thread say the people over at GameFaqs hate Geno SUPER badly. Don't get me wrong, I agree with them on GameFaqs disliking Geno, but their hate for Shantae goes way beyond Geno's in my opinion.
I am extremely surprised by that given how they top Square Enix characters of all generations on their site polls.
I'm also surprised anyone uses the darn site for forums and socialization, still.

Regardless, bias just comes with the territory. Each site has a lean. So, as painful as those interactions are, don't put too much stock into juvenile Keyboard Warriors/Bullies.
 

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Gamefaqs is just Budget 4chan.
Neutral on a character that they don't care about until they notice said character getting support, followed by choosing to hate the character.

For Smash, anyway.
 

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Remember when /v/ users got absolutely enraged about an "outdated cereal mascot" getting in? :ultbanjokazooie:

I will admit, one using Fred Flinstone as a reaction pic was hilarious, even though I was unsure the leak for the duo was even true.

I'm also surprised anyone uses the darn site for forums and socialization, still.
Yes. GameFAQs is for looking up game strategies, not virtual mudslinging. Next you're going to tell me that most forum goers never use a guide for anything.
 
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And people at the Geno thread say the people over at GameFaqs hate Geno SUPER badly. Don't get me wrong, I agree with them on GameFaqs disliking Geno, but their hate for Shantae goes way beyond Geno's in my opinion.
Yeah

and let’s not forget that one user over there, smashburb
 

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So how's this for a Final Smash idea?

 

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I still think her final smash could be her using her magic of all her known transformations and getting help from her friends. A hero can't do everything alone.

Also, here is a shantae artwork for today
Artist: rakurri
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The idea of the Jins was cool as well. I believe they will come back into the fold of the series at some point. Hell, I kind of believe the final boss of Seven Sirens won't be one of the Sirens, but a Jin instead. I kind of believe this since the whole concept of Seven Sirens will be deeply more involved with the genie lore then the past games.

But yeah, if there's anything that could be crazier then the Pirate Master, it would be a Jin.
Final Boss: Squid Baron
(Until I'm proven wrong, this is my strongest prediction for the game, other than Fillin = Rotty)

Announce FP2 at VGA's, release SatSS, so that SatSS content makes its way into Smash early next year?

Now that does seem like something WF would do, particularly if they make the Smash amiibo unlock something they add to SatSS later. Although the amiibo unlock would be kinda 'meh' if they did that so that the other platforms' customers don't feel left out.
They could just have a DLC mini pack with the bonuses for other consoles, or available both ways so when the amiibo stock gets low it won't lock people out of the DLC. Personally, I'd love to just have access to any of the Smash amiibo for costumes.
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Because how much fun would it be if we could play Ninja Shantae but with a Sheik costume? I mean, I'll take a generic single costume from each major franchise as is. But the hypothetical is fun. Any of them could get separate game modes, but even a genie-fied version of a character would be fun. Like Peach's hip fabric would work like Shantae's gold details into pink pants etc.
 
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