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Shantae, the Half Genie Protector of Scuttle Town! (A Switch To A New WayForward)
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I think they would have been fine with anyone from DQ, seeing as there hasn't been any particularly big demand for Slime, Torneko, Jessica, Terry, Alena...
Besides, the ballot is still a suggestion box. Even if a character only got a single supporter on it, Sakurai and crew will notice the suggestion and maybe even consider it sooner or later. The only outlier is Joker. Probably because Nintendo followed Sakurai's Twitter account and noticed he liked P5.
Heck, this poll from 2015 shows that Slime got some supporters at the rank of 204. Hero didn't do as well, but was still there on rank 272: https://www.sourcegaming.info/2015/10/08/sgpollingresults1/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1riZ4HDxzIjb8OmJyV2T9KgG6M1X-r6siXljFH1nQwdw/edit#gid=0
And that list still doesn't show the full picture of how massive the worldwide character ballot support was.
Every noteworthy game character in history has at least one person wanting them in Smash. Even Steve has some fans on this board, and I don't talk about the "overlord Steve" meme ones.
Just noticed this now.
But yeah, when you think about it, "ballot winner" is such a loaded assumed statement, especially considering that most characters with moderately high support suggested on the Brawl poll eventually became playable. Licensed characters are still right out even if Goku supposedly got enough support because of memes/lel Bamco.
Besides, the ballot is still a suggestion box. Even if a character only got a single supporter on it, Sakurai and crew will notice the suggestion and maybe even consider it sooner or later. The only outlier is Joker. Probably because Nintendo followed Sakurai's Twitter account and noticed he liked P5.
Heck, this poll from 2015 shows that Slime got some supporters at the rank of 204. Hero didn't do as well, but was still there on rank 272: https://www.sourcegaming.info/2015/10/08/sgpollingresults1/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1riZ4HDxzIjb8OmJyV2T9KgG6M1X-r6siXljFH1nQwdw/edit#gid=0
And that list still doesn't show the full picture of how massive the worldwide character ballot support was.
Every noteworthy game character in history has at least one person wanting them in Smash. Even Steve has some fans on this board, and I don't talk about the "overlord Steve" meme ones.
It really doesn't to me who won since we got 
, , , , , , and as well as probably every veteran in the damn series back because of it.
Call me crazy, but if I had to guess who won the Smash Ballot, it probably was either Sora or Goku if not Bayonetta, K. Rool, or Banjo & Kazooie.
, , , , , , and as well as probably every veteran in the damn series back because of it.Call me crazy, but if I had to guess who won the Smash Ballot, it probably was either Sora or Goku if not Bayonetta, K. Rool, or Banjo & Kazooie.
But yeah, when you think about it, "ballot winner" is such a loaded assumed statement, especially considering that most characters with moderately high support suggested on the Brawl poll eventually became playable. Licensed characters are still right out even if Goku supposedly got enough support because of memes/lel Bamco.
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Okay, another thing that came back in mind for me;
Assuming it still applies, one stated criteria for a character is for them to have "history", which amounts to having more than one game. Shantae easily has this going for her, seeing as other notable indies tend to either still only have one game (re-releases or remakes notwithstanding), or came too little, too late with their planned sequels.
Edit: As an addendum, old-school characters are obviously exempt from this if they're strongly related to Nintendo.
Assuming it still applies, one stated criteria for a character is for them to have "history", which amounts to having more than one game. Shantae easily has this going for her, seeing as other notable indies tend to either still only have one game (re-releases or remakes notwithstanding), or came too little, too late with their planned sequels.
Edit: As an addendum, old-school characters are obviously exempt from this if they're strongly related to Nintendo.
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Okay, another thing that came back in mind for me;
Assuming it still applies, one stated criteria for a character is for them to have "history", which amounts to having more than one game. Shantae easily has this going for her, seeing as other notable indies tend to either still only have one game (re-releases or remakes notwithstanding), or came too little, too late with their planned sequels.
Edit: As an addendum, old-school characters are obviously exempt from this if they're strongly related to Nintendo.
Assuming it still applies, one stated criteria for a character is for them to have "history", which amounts to having more than one game. Shantae easily has this going for her, seeing as other notable indies tend to either still only have one game (re-releases or remakes notwithstanding), or came too little, too late with their planned sequels.
Edit: As an addendum, old-school characters are obviously exempt from this if they're strongly related to Nintendo.
Risky's Revenge brought light to a relatively niche service bereft of quality titles. You could actually call it one of the best digital titles in a time where digital was just getting started. Why DSiWare? Probably because of mutual loyalty between the fans and Wayforward for their first release on Game Boy Color. A loyalty that would continue to last even in the years where Nintendo was down on their luck in the console market. Wayforward didn't let poor Wii U sales stop them from making Pirate's Curse, still the pinnacle of the series to some, exclusive to that and the 3DS, at least for a while. But it was only because of that commitment that they became successful enough to freely release on multiple platforms.
Nintendo and Wayforward have been scratching each other's back for a long time, and outside work done for other companies, it's a safe bet whatever they release will be on a Nintendo console.
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Well, more youtube support for our girl. A few days ago, Aaronitmar made a video about characters who could get in as future DLC and he listed Shantae in the possible side of things (listing characters like Sora and Steve as not likely)
And then today The Completionist wore a Shante shirt in his review of BanjoKazooie: Nuts and Bolts
And then today The Completionist wore a Shante shirt in his review of BanjoKazooie: Nuts and Bolts
In any case, as I said before, the only real obstacle in Shantae's path now is, ironically enough, Inti Creates.
They have their own indie creation, Gunvolt, and also a legacy Sunsoft character in Jason. Both have something to offer and could get in over her. Especially since the HGH collab officially ended.
They have their own indie creation, Gunvolt, and also a legacy Sunsoft character in Jason. Both have something to offer and could get in over her. Especially since the HGH collab officially ended.
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In all fairness, wouldn't Jason fall under the Retro catagory instead of Indie? As well, what's generally more famous: Jason or the Sohpia III tank he pilots? Chances are that if we're going to see a Playable Jason, it would likely be in the Sophia III than a pilot himself. It does help that, unlike most tanks which are larger than most characters like the Landmaster, the Sophia III can be a fairly small tank, about the size of Bowser with the height of a slightly smaller character like Mario.
Inti-creates is a fantastic company, to me they are the "Japanese Wayforward" (or is WF the English Inti-creates???) But in the relm of smash nothing they have done really has much an impact on discussion. After Shantae, GV is my personal next pic tho. and after Shantae gets in GV is gonna get all my attention.
As for Jason, he himself isnt really noteworthy, all anyone remembers about blaster master is Sophia, so while i dont think its impossible for Sakurai to make Sophia III a character, I think it really fits the AT roll perfectly. (lets you scale it up to a more "tank" size")
As for Jason, he himself isnt really noteworthy, all anyone remembers about blaster master is Sophia, so while i dont think its impossible for Sakurai to make Sophia III a character, I think it really fits the AT roll perfectly. (lets you scale it up to a more "tank" size")
I will say, I did occasionally think half-jokingly that Sophia would be an improved version of the Landmaster FS, but this is actually a better idea. Much better than people suggesting the Metal Slug itself as a playable rep. Let's not forget that Eve would do co-piloting.
In any case, it's becoming obvious that Sakurai is starting to run out of Japanese companies to pick one third party from. Atlus was already considered "niche" by outsiders, so it stands to reason that we're no longer going to stick to really huge names as much. It's either scraping as much of the barrel as possible, or do more Westerners like Rare and Microsoft.
By the way, speaking of collabs...
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/20..._being_added_to_taiko_no_tatsujin_as_paid_dlc
Bamco's love for Undertale runs much deeper than expected.
In any case, it's becoming obvious that Sakurai is starting to run out of Japanese companies to pick one third party from. Atlus was already considered "niche" by outsiders, so it stands to reason that we're no longer going to stick to really huge names as much. It's either scraping as much of the barrel as possible, or do more Westerners like Rare and Microsoft.
By the way, speaking of collabs...
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/20..._being_added_to_taiko_no_tatsujin_as_paid_dlc
Bamco's love for Undertale runs much deeper than expected.
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I don't think we will see any secondary unique 3rd party reps in Ultimate, but if we happen too I believe our first character will either be Tails or Chun-Li due to how iconic they're. Tails' Mii costume was brought back when Joker dropped, so he is out in my book. So I think if anybody, it's going to be Chun-Li. Maybe Sephiroth? But I would bet on Chun-Li more than anyone right now for our first secondary unique 3rd party rep.
Personally, I'm more excited to hear the Little Witch Academia jokes. 
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— Kampy (@Kampy5567) September 15, 2019
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— Kampy (@Kampy5567) September 15, 2019
#Shantae crossover with #LittleWitchAcademia by NATTO! https://t.co/X5HWxYxY6thttps://t.co/jvPgn0quey#Sucy#Rottytops#Wayforward#Trigger#anime#indiegames#zombie#シャンティ#リトルウィッチアカデミア pic.twitter.com/LA312xjgnQ
— Kampy (@Kampy5567) September 15, 2019
#Shantae crossover with #LittleWitchAcademia by NATTO! https://t.co/X5HWxYxY6thttps://t.co/N8WkVr8dtm#Lotte#Sky#Wayforward#Trigger#indiegames #anime#シャンティ#リトルウィッチアカデミア pic.twitter.com/LEAED3zVNB
— Kampy (@Kampy5567) September 15, 2019
Good lord, I just said there aren't any arbitrary third party "limits" that we know of. Don't want this thread to resort to fan rules when we have no idea how long the DLC lasts now...
Do you figure they might reveal the game's release date after the opening finishes? At least the next two days will go by quickly.
Do you figure they might reveal the game's release date after the opening finishes? At least the next two days will go by quickly.
The problem with fighting characters like Chun-Li or Blanka is that they have charge inputs that would be very cumbersome to pull off in the high-mobility world of Smash.
You folks can let me know how the story turns out between firefighter Spring Man and pyro Edelgard when Promare releases. In the meantime, I'll be thinking of this ditty to go with it:
Except, uh, it's a guy. Unless some villain turns out to be secretly good?
You folks can let me know how the story turns out between firefighter Spring Man and pyro Edelgard when Promare releases. In the meantime, I'll be thinking of this ditty to go with it:
Except, uh, it's a guy. Unless some villain turns out to be secretly good?
Having played through the story of River City Girls and learned the truth...
Misako is an utter psychopath that treats anyone and everyone, with scant few exceptions, with contempt, and even those she claims to like or love aren't safe from her wrath if they displease her in any way. The double date shown in the opening, which turns out to be the first and only one, demonstrates this when Kunio teases her by stealing the last piece of food, and she grabs him by the collar to yell in his face. She's utterly obsessed with fighting, even by River City standards, with violence being her first and preferred answer to everything, and if you're not fighting with or against her she doesn't give an iota of care for you as a person. The only thing greater than her love of fighting is her obsession with Kunio.
Then there's the sad case that is Kyoko, a normally sweet girl that is badly influenced by her best friend Misako. She sticks with her for standing up to some bullies years ago (given the flashback is from their perspective though, it's likely to be heavily exaggerated and skewed to fit their narrative, as is all their interactions with Hasebe and Mami), but in the present day it's clear that Misako is the dominant one and both directly and indirectly (likely out of trying to be like or get Misako's respect) pulling her into committing misdeeds. She shows far more empathy than Misako ever does, and several times has moments of lucidity where she seems to notice how ridiculous their antics are, or that just maybe Kunio and Riki really don't love them. Every time she does, Misako shuts her down, preventing the both of them from ever learning from their mistakes. She's been shown to have friends other than Misako, but she's prone to brushing them off in the latter's presence.
It wouldn't surprise me at all if somewhere down the line, Misako will wind up stabbing Kyoko in the back if it means she'll get more time with her Kunio.
Then there's the sad case that is Kyoko, a normally sweet girl that is badly influenced by her best friend Misako. She sticks with her for standing up to some bullies years ago (given the flashback is from their perspective though, it's likely to be heavily exaggerated and skewed to fit their narrative, as is all their interactions with Hasebe and Mami), but in the present day it's clear that Misako is the dominant one and both directly and indirectly (likely out of trying to be like or get Misako's respect) pulling her into committing misdeeds. She shows far more empathy than Misako ever does, and several times has moments of lucidity where she seems to notice how ridiculous their antics are, or that just maybe Kunio and Riki really don't love them. Every time she does, Misako shuts her down, preventing the both of them from ever learning from their mistakes. She's been shown to have friends other than Misako, but she's prone to brushing them off in the latter's presence.
It wouldn't surprise me at all if somewhere down the line, Misako will wind up stabbing Kyoko in the back if it means she'll get more time with her Kunio.