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Right. My point was Joker couldn't be a ballot pick, and some characters wanted are literally impossible to be.
Fantastic!
Honestly i would have preferred that...
Probably Elma from XBX since there is no XBX music in Ultimate what so ever.
The quote in your signature sounds like something Gruntilda would say.
Because Shantae probably performed better in the Ballot and got the bigger prize because of that.
Don't see why they'd have to hold back Xeno X songs considering any new Xenoblade stage would have all Xenoblade songs by default. Anyway she's a spirit, but considering Rex and his two Legend status blades I think it's clear who's higher on the priority list.
Moreso because WF is like, really easy to negotiate with for content.
You know that’s from a Foo Fighters song, right?
I wonder if the artist or recording studio is holding back the songs?
Letting your character's image be used in game but not as an online avatar seems like a really weird line to draw for the owner. Inclusion alone will see your character shown all over the internet anyway. With that in mind I can't think of any other reason for including online avatars or not other than ''because they wanted to''.
Gee, I hope not.
Yes!
gets to keep his record, bwa hahahaha--I mean, it's great to hear them being confirmed at last.
I strongly doubt that's the reason and that shantae beat an Icon like Rayman on the ballot. If anything they did equal. It's probably an oversight really
I think it's quite possible actually, considering how promoted she was by Wayforward back in the ballot days.
Even then Rayman is still a big icon. I don't think shantae getting an icon is cause of her having more votes, like I said probably an oversight. Rayman is just as big of a name in smash speculation and is one of Ubisoft's big icons
How can he both be a big icon while also being overlooked?
People tend to overstretch things during the hype.
Sure yes, but remember that sticking out like a sore thumb doesn't truly guarantee the true route what the wish is. All we can for is just hope for the best and let fate tell us.
Makes sense. I don't really recall Rayman being disused that much back then. Can't say for sure though, was not as into the speculation scene back then as I am now.
People weren't talking much about Rayman in Smash until Artsy Omni. I think a lot of the fanbase was still a little miffed at Ubisoft at the time of the ballot for 1) Taking away Rayman Legends exclusivity and for also telling Nintendo fans it was their fault they weren't getting all their big games because they wouldn't buy all the buggy and broken ports ubi made for the Wii U.
Being a big icon doesn't make a character as popular as others for Smash. Otherwise names like Master Chief, Crash Bandicoot, Lara Croft, Kratos, Tails, ect would all have bigger support threads on here than Isaac, Geno, and Banjo & Kazooie. Also, some more 3rd party characters from the Ballot would have been chosen over Ridley and K. Rool if that was the case because they don't hold a candle to a lot of big 3rd party protagonists when it comes to iconicness.
You know Geno is a spirit and a online Smash tag icon as well right? He isn't playable, a Assist, and not a first party just like Shantae. So he is in the same boat as her pretty much.
He was popular, but still not as popular as K. Rool, Shantae, Shovel Knight, or Banjo & Kazooie back then. I was around during Smash 4's speculation scene and I would go as far to say that Shantae, Shovel Knight, and Banjo & Kazooie were a lot more popular during the Ballot than Geno and Isaac were.
But however, he is under the Mario association. he is TECHNICALLY still under those clauses.
That's true he is a Mario character, but he is 100% owned by Square-Enix though and is a 3rd party in that sense.
He still falls under that association in Smash however.
At least in Ken Penders' case nobody wanted anything to do with his stuff afterwards, to the point where Archie forced a continuity reboot and after that got cancelled, IDW mainly concentrates on using the game characters/their own stuff and pretends he doesn't exist when he cries foul over one of their characters looking similar to his. Much more clear-cut.
And Porky.
Heh, yeah, though I was listing a few examples. Personally I don't think he'll amount to anything, but I'll politely wait until the Fighter Pass is finished before I can say "I told you so" to any fans of his.And Porky.
But he does. Every assist has an icon, including Shovel Knight.
Ah, right, forgot, ignore that mention, I'll edit it out.
Well you know what they say, it's not over until the fat lady sings. I will be eating my words if Porky is deconfirmed, but I will be bragging to everybody that I was right if he does get confirmed.
Yeah, but even then the remake doesn't have him at all, so not even AlphaDream has much legroom to work with.Actually he was used briefly in one of the Mario and Luigi games...
They probably just didn't want to make art-themed battles multiple times for Kirby.
With a very, very explicit disclaimer in the credits.Actually he was used briefly in one of the Mario and Luigi games...
I know, my point was that Smash wasn't the only place the two parties agreed to allow the character to be used.
And yet they had no problem making multiple battles for FE ladies by using Lucina and occasionally Robin. Because double-standards.
In any case, he doesn't seem to be ably used willy-nilly, even the sports Mario games made by SE don't have him, yet FF characters do show up in those.