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Shantae, the Half Genie Protector of Scuttle Town! (A Switch To A New WayForward)

Do you think shantae can make it?

  • Yes, as a fighter

  • Yes, as a assist trophy

  • No, not as a assist trophy

  • No, not at all


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Dyllybirdy

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Have you guys seen this?

Whoa, that's amazing!
So I was digging through a bunch of my old drawings recently and I came across some old sketches I did of Shantae back during the Smash 4 DLC period, was in the mood to share them again:

Heh, the Pac-Man one looks a little odd, but those still look great!
 

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It would have been easy to simply turn her into a Pac-Man with her ponytail and shoes. Please don't tell me Bamco's scrubbing of the support cast made people forget his series had more female characters once.
I mean I wanted for them to be costumes though I guess that wouldn’t hurt. Also no I didn’t forget, in fact I’ve brainstormed ideas for a Pac-Man cartoon as well and I’ve found plenty of female characters to work with.

This was all before the costume party in Half-Genie Hero, right?
Yeah it was before HGH even released, these were like in 2015-2016, after Ryu’s reveal and before Cloud.

Whoa, that's amazing!

Heh, the Pac-Man one looks a little odd, but those still look great!
Thank you! Couldn’t think up a better idea, pretend she’s in like a mascot outfit.
 
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Man That thunder guy is just not giving up I mean seriously stop we can hope for shantae but that doesn’t mean you have to ruin everything let’s all just ignore him and everything will be fine:)

Also thanks to some user I found his devianart account
https://www.deviantart.com/thethunder-art
My reaction after looking in his gallery:
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RockOfMind

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@Connorb0t2 Ignore him? Don't give em attention. Even posting about him is giving that to the guy. A lot of your posts are just kinda random, aren't they?
 
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@Connorb0t2 Ignore him? Don't give em attention. Even posting about him is giving that to the guy. A lot of your posts are just kinda random, aren't they?
Well I ain’t stoping until that stubborn ***** gives up I mean seriously man it needs to stop

And Apology’s that my posts are random sometimes
 
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I’m sorry everyone about my behavior things aren't looking good for me I mean look at it
-unexpectedly getting out of online play and getting temporarily banned (**** the online services)
-lossing my gsp
-everyone pounding me down with the whole spirit deconfirm talk
-those 2 users still hounding us down
-slow internet

I’m telling you guys today isn’t my day right now but there will be nothing stoping me from giving up on shantae and I won’t let anyone do that to me I’ll try to get myself back together:)
 
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Don't pay attention to what he does, just pretend he doesn't exist, just like IDW does with Ken Penders. If you let bullies get to you, they win as long as you don't ignore them.

Also, I'm not one to think silly JPEGs are any different than trophies, so you won't be seeing that from me.
 
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LaBeteNoire

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I wish I was half as good as you man, these are great.
I wanna draw some cool stuff to show people but my drawings are either just not good enough to me or with my better ones... just plain too NSFW.
Like I can't show those to people. I just can't.
I mean you COULD show some people...
<_<
>_>
 

Teeb147

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Even if I wanted to *cough*, I don't have any way to scan my pencil sketches and upload them. I wouldn't mind trying digital stuff but issue is money.
I mean, if you have a phone you could take a picture and upload that.
It's ok if you dont have one. I dont have one at the moment either.

If I draw some stuff in paint i can share it tho :D
 
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RockOfMind

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I mean, if you have a phone you could take a picture and upload that.
It's ok if you dont have one. I dont have one at the moment either.

If I draw some stuff in paint i can share it tho :D
Yeah I don't have one. A rarity these days, I know. Would love to see some good ol' fashion paint drawings. If you mean the program that is.
 

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With all that discussion of the characters, their motivations and likely futures in Shantae we discussed a while back, it makes me wonder... cliché though it may be, what if the next game had an Arabian Nights theme, with multiple stories being told?
 

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With all that discussion of the characters, their motivations and likely futures in Shantae we discussed a while back, it makes me wonder... cliché though it may be, what if the next game had an Arabian Nights theme, with multiple stories being told?
Depends. Would it have Shantae telling bedtime stories to some lad/lass as a framing device?
 

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Depends. Would it have Shantae telling bedtime stories to some lad/lass as a framing device?
Probably depends on how true the stories are (ie if they're canon or not). As the main one obviously must star Shantae it would only make sense that this would be the fully accurate story told by her with the rest being conjecture based on what her friends said they were going to do, or what she expects/wants to see others do (like Risky redeeming herself).

If they're all true, however, that only leaves a genie being the one to tell the stories. They're the ones best placed to see everything that happens in Sequin Land, after all.
 
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Lol I ended up not being very active on here this past month.

So, regarding DLC fighters, I did pre-purchase the Fighter Pack, because I'm very happy to get any new fighter, but the only character that would make me deathly excited is (of course) Shantae. Is anyone else in that same boat? (Of liking all characters but ONLY caring about Shantae?) I'm very curious.


Also, I'm very late to this, but that "SHANTAE LEAK" a few pages back, is one of the best things I've seen all night. xD
 

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Lol I ended up not being very active on here this past month.

So, regarding DLC fighters, I did pre-purchase the Fighter Pack, because I'm very happy to get any new fighter, but the only character that would make me deathly excited is (of course) Shantae. Is anyone else in that same boat? (Of liking all characters but ONLY caring about Shantae?) I'm very curious.


Also, I'm very late to this, but that "SHANTAE LEAK" a few pages back, is one of the best things I've seen all night. xD
I guess I'm in the same boat. I'm fine with most characters but Shantae would be a dream come true. But I won't be upset if she doesn't make it in or anything. I think a lot of characters deserve a spot in Smash. To be honest, I think the only character currently in Smash I don't like is Dark Pit.
 

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I guess I'm in the same boat. I'm fine with most characters but Shantae would be a dream come true. But I won't be upset if she doesn't make it in or anything. I think a lot of characters deserve a spot in Smash. To be honest, I think the only character currently in Smash I don't like is Dark Pit.
The only character that I would be the most upset is Steve. But that's my opinion, and going to leave it at that. I'm just honestly hoping for some new Smash news from Nintendo. Not from leakers, (cause who knows if they are telling the truth.).
 
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RockOfMind

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The only character that I would be the most upset is Steve. But that's my opinion, and going to leave it at that. I'm just honestly hoping for some new Smash news from Nintendo. Not from leakers, (cause who knows if they are telling the truth.).
Yeah I get that. It's funny, think I already have stupid ideas and quotes for these weird characters in my mind. To joke around with friends, anyways.
News would be great, looking forward to some Pokemon or Animal Crossing news myself.
 

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Yeah I get that. It's funny, think I already have stupid ideas and quotes for these weird characters in my mind. To joke around with friends, anyways.
News would be great, looking forward to some Pokemon or Animal Crossing news myself.
Same. I'm really hoping we don't have to wait until Pokemon day just to get a teaser or such. Like give us a small tease now so we can speculate than a proper reveal on Pokemon Day.
 

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So, regarding DLC fighters, I did pre-purchase the Fighter Pack, because I'm very happy to get any new fighter, but the only character that would make me deathly excited is (of course) Shantae. Is anyone else in that same boat? (Of liking all characters but ONLY caring about Shantae?) I'm very curious.
I mean, I thought I was... until Joker was revealed, that is...
 
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RockOfMind

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Same. I'm really hoping we don't have to wait until Pokemon day just to get a teaser or such. Like give us a small tease now so we can speculate than a proper reveal on Pokemon Day.
Wouldn't mind getting the silhouette of the starters just to see a bunch of fake leaks of them in full color. I've seen some bad ones before, so yeah.
 

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Again, nothing major towards Smash Ultimate for news, but another minor news to chew on for the time being till nintendo announces.

 
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What I'm inching to see in the next Shantae game is her mother.
She was mentioned at the end of both Pirate's Curse and Half-Genie Hero, so WayForward probably has a very important role for her in the future because of how long she has been foreshadowed. I'm positive Shantae's mother is still alive.

The only way shantae can become dlc is if she disguised herself as a fire emblem character
That's how :ultkrool: got into the roster:

Again, nothing major towards Smash Ultimate for news, but another minor news to chew on for the time being till nintendo announces.

Interesting, I didn't thought :ultridley: would have done well on the Smash Ballot because of him being a stage hazard in the last game when it was going on. Hopefully Sakurai and Nintendo will pick a couple of more Ballot picks for the DLC lineup.
 
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Man, the news that we almost got Decidueye over Incineroar really bums me out. It would have been such a better choice on all accounts: A final grass stater to go along with Chirizard and Greninja, another plan based fighter (which with PP we have three where as we have tons of fire fighters) and Smash's first Ghost type representative where incineroar didn't bring anything new as his dark typing literally got :ultgreninja:'d in the last game
 
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Man, the news that we almost got Decidueye over Incineroar really bums me out. It would have been such a better choice on all accounts: A final grass stater to go along with Chirizard and Greninja, another plan based fighter (which with PP we have three where as we have tons of fire fighters) and Smash's first Ghost type representative where incineroar didn't bring anything new as his dark typing literally got :ultgreninja:'d in the last game
Instead all we got was a ***** air recovery tiger

So

Why did rottys spirit get removed? They didn’t have to censor shantae and risky so what gives?

Edit: whoops I double posted :nervous:
 

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Man, the news that we almost got Decidueye over Incineroar really bums me out. It would have been such a better choice on all accounts: A final grass stater to go along with Chirizard and Greninja, another plan based fighter (which with PP we have three where as we have tons of fire fighters) and Smash's first Ghost type representative where incineroar didn't bring anything new as his dark typing literally got :ultgreninja:'d in the last game
I mean there is more to the Pokemon than their typing. Inceniroar has tons of personality while Decidueye is a stoic archer when we already have a stoic ninja and a stoic monk/fighter thing. Inceniroar has the pro-wrestler moves and flair while Decidueye would be the 6th person using a bow. I still don't understand how anyone can be upset we got a fighter who taunts after every move and does a rope a dope.
 

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I mean there is more to the Pokemon than their typing. Inceniroar has tons of personality while Decidueye is a stoic archer when we already have a stoic ninja and a stoic monk/fighter thing. Inceniroar has the pro-wrestler moves and flair while Decidueye would be the 6th person using a bow. I still don't understand how anyone can be upset we got a fighter who taunts after every move and does a rope a dope.
Sakurai can infuse any character with more personality :p But your post made me think about something..If Sakurai wanted to infuse the pokemon with personality, it's possible that he knew it was planned for pokken and didn't want there to be some kind of conflict, if they didn't know how the pokken one would turn out.

Primarina would've been awesome, but that's another water one and he liked the idea of a wrestler :p
 

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I mean there is more to the Pokemon than their typing. Inceniroar has tons of personality while Decidueye is a stoic archer when we already have a stoic ninja and a stoic monk/fighter thing. Inceniroar has the pro-wrestler moves and flair while Decidueye would be the 6th person using a bow. I still don't understand how anyone can be upset we got a fighter who taunts after every move and does a rope a dope.
Firstly, the Smash team has proven they can put personality into nearly anything. Second, Deciduey has just as much personality, just in another direction. Decidueye are typically proud, cocky and even prissy. Yes, Incineroar has his crowd rousing, but Deciduey could have just as many interesting reactions, like tugging his hood closed when he loses, or freaking out when hit by messier moves like an Inkling attack or a Wario Waft.

As for you comment on Decidueye being the 6 bow fighter... Firstly, three of those fighters use a bow for exactly one move in their toolkit, and of the 5 bow users, there are only two completely unique move sets among them. Decidueye would need a completely unique moveset and would utilize it's arrows much more than the Links and is ways much different than the pits.

And even if you still think that's too many bows, I put it to you that the over abundance of fire based fighters in the game is far more problematic. After looking over the entire roster, there were 26 characters who ad at least one fire based move (and this was actually being generous as I choose to leave out moves that cause fire due to explosion Letting the likes of Toon Link and Diddy Kong escape this list as well as others) I also left Ganondorph of the list by considering his attacks darkness based even tho they behave like fire does.

And again, you might say there is more to pokemon than types (which would be completely true) but it is the foundation they are built on and when there are 18 different types and over 800 monsters, it becomes clear that you will never be able to represent all in a game like Smash, Which makes all the move reason to pick the most divers one you could for the roster when you are only going to feature a handful.

It's the same reason why Fire Emblem fans are frustrated that every fighter they get is a sword fighter when swords are only part of what the games offer.

I'm not angry Incineroar is in, just disappointed as there could have been better picks that would have provided more variety.

Now in elemental representation, fire far outweighs all the others in this game. There are three water based fighters and two other fighters who have a single water based move (Mario and Isabelle) and there are three plant based fighters and one other fighter with a single plant based move (villager's tree) Even trying to give plants the best case scenario you could try and include Lucas' stick attack and if you really want to stretch it you could include Peach and Daisy's Toad counter (tho i don't count that as Mushrooms aren't plants)

So I would say having one more plant based move set (with the addition of Ghost based moves which aside from Shadow Ball and Shadow Sneak is untapped potential) would ad far more variety than the 26 fire based character did.
 
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