logicandreason
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I will never not feel bad whenever i see sonic trying to save pikachu. Not the best way to start the day, but a good way to
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Shantae, the Half Genie Protector of Scuttle Town! (A Switch To A New WayForward)
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MajestyIndigo
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Guys, regarding Geno, I'm now sure that he is a spirit unlike what we've been told :
Just thought I'd let you guys know ^^
Just thought I'd let you guys know ^^
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Long live your plant MainerCan I just bring this up, because I find this hilarious if it was intentional. You know how we were analyzing all of these rooms for hints and secrets? Well guess what.
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They all have potted plants in them.
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Also I was wrong about
andtheir gameplay changed my mind I thought they were gonna be bland as spam but no I was wrong
Dyllybirdy
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Yeah, he's not a spirit. He's just a profile picture...
DeltaSceptile
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I highly doubt being a spirit means anything for a characters chances, as that would piss off more than just Isaac, Shadow, Waluigi, Krystal, Ashley, Lyn, Knuckles, and Skull Kid fans. As for dlc, well... I doubt there will only be one season. I’m highly skeptical that a game with this much hype would only get 5 dlc characters, especially considering how long the switch is slated to last. It just doesn’t make sense.
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Thank god we weren’t pissed because she wasn’t humiliation like those above
MajestyIndigo
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I don't think it's a bad thing to be a spirit either. It's actually quite good since it proves that the said character is indeed part of the smash universe and to me it's even like a little tease for players who see Shantae as a spirit ( for example ). It makes you want to have her playable even more ^^
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I think Shantae has the second highest chance for dlc, after Banjo & Kazooie of course. Spirits don’t matter for playable chances at all, it just means no base roster, as that would’ve been what they were able to put in without spoilers. As far as I’m concerned, only thing that 100% dc’s a character is being an assist trophy, an item, or part of the pokeballs.
Now for my dlc prediction:
2 first parties, Dixie Kong and Bandana Dee. 2 third parties, Banjo and Shantae.
1 wtf pick, being more along the lines of a Goomba or Wurmple.
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Aurora Jenny
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Who are the most active threads on Smashboards as far as character support goes that are still alive?
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I mean......she’s not an assist so......?
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As it would turn out, this thread is #1 of the living.
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Are you sure?
logicandreason
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Can we talk about how an alt color for incineroar is big the cat?
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I'll be honest, I love Krystal's Assist Trophy and I love that Isaac has more than just Move this time around.
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FROGGY?Can we talk about how an alt color for incineroar is big the cat?
RetrogamerMax
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You're forgetting Geno who is just as likely or more than Banjo & Kazooie and Shantae.
Shantae, Banjo & Kazooie, Geno, Bandana Dee, Dixie Kong, and Elma's threads are all still active and holding on for DLC.
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Yeah, checked replies, were number 2 after Isaac, who was denied by the final direct.
I honestly doubt Geno. Something about this tells me that dlc will be completely random and just not include characters who only made one appearance, kinda like last time.
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Still feel bad for the Isaac fans for him being an Assist Trophy once more. At least his role is much better compared to brawl of just Pushing enemies alone.
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Yeah I know how it feels when your favorite character is deconfirmed as an assist trophy. Really sucked seeing that happen to Isaac supporters
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At least Smash Bros Flash 2 covers that for Isaac being playable.
I just hope that Shantae and possibly others can make it as a fighter in the 5 Characters fighter pass.
LunarLiv
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Thanks for typing this you've just made me imagine Ridley just standing there with sunglasses on lighting up a cigar like it's no big deal :D
Wait you can use spirits as avatars? YES! YES YES! LET'S REP OUR GIRL!!!!!
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sorry, im a little out of the loop. i keep hearing that sakurai has already decided all of the DLC picks. is there any evidence for this?
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Well, Sakurai did say that DLC characters won't start until Smash Ultimate is released and Pirahna Plant is done.
MajestyIndigo
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Some think yes, some think not. I personally would tend to say no.
see for yourself
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Dyllybirdy
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Well, hopefully she passed peacefully in her sleep...
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Yeah, that would be the best outcome. Not like there is anywhere to try and run on Risky's ship.
LunarLiv
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Else where, in the Smash Brothers universe... pic.twitter.com/l7amKhTWhF
— NinTwinDo (@xxNinTwinDoxx) November 3, 2018
This is what happened
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I knew what was gonna happen and it still shot me in the heart.
Dyllybirdy
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That is the most hilarious thing I've seen all day.
I mean, it would suck, but I wonder if there could be a Rotty one.
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THIS IS WHAT I WAKE UP TO?!?!
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Hey, it may be depressing, but it produces some good art and ideas.
I really do love the Kirby/Shulk hc so this was inevitable #SmashBrosUltimate #Shulk #Kirby pic.twitter.com/7cBOHyqcPj
— ←/AmericaSenpai (C*MMS OPEN) (@America_Senpai) November 3, 2018
Dyllybirdy
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Our wake up calls here in the Shantae thread, are very nontraditional, you could say.
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Let's try not to go too wild in over-analyzing what tweets from WayForward or statements by Sakurai might mean for DLC. The fact is that we know very little, and the information we can glean from either of those sources is very limited.
Matt Bozon's tweets, for instance, are very interesting. We can conclude that Shantae hasn't been ruled out for DLC as far as Matt knows, and that WayForward is not under any agreement with Nintendo that would forbid them from asking fans to support Shantae for DLC.
This probably indicates that Shantae has not at this point been decided upon as a DLC character. Even that is not certain, but if she were already in the works, I suspect WayForward would keep mum on the subject.
Attempting to read anything more into his tweets beyond that is pointless. Matt Bozon himself likely knows next to nothing about the DLC process for Smash Bros. The 4 out of 5 thing was clearly just a silly joke, since obviously no single character or franchise is going to get 4 out of the 5 DLC spots.
The same applies to Sakurai. He states that they haven't yet created any of the paid DLC, and that work will begin on them as soon as they are finished with the main game. Even taking Sakurai at his word, this doesn't indicate whether or not they have selected characters for DLC. And frankly, it's very possible that Sakurai isn't being 100% truthful with some of his statements.
I hate to say it, but the best information we have on Smash DLC is leakers, and that info is hardly comforting. As I saw someone on Reddit point out, a very realistic worst case scenario might be Steve, Dragon Quest rep, gacha character, new FE sword user, and new Pokémon.
The DLC characters might not all be selected yet, but given the relatively quick timeframe, it seems like there's a good chance that they are. As for whether there will be more than one season of DLC, nobody has anything but pure guesses.
Aside from sticking to Isaac, the next most helpful initiative for the Isaac community would be fan art.
Isaac isn't a controversial candidate; you see very little Isaac hate out there. Rather, people think of Isaac as being an otherwise worthy candidate who is shafted by Golden Sun being a dead series. The way to counter this impression is NOT through argument. When you tell people that Golden Sun isn't THAT dead, or that it COULD come back to life, or that it doesn't matter for Smash if Golden Sun is dead, well, that just keeps the focus on Golden Sun being dead.
What you need instead is for Isaac to feel alive to people. Get people invested in Isaac and Golden Sun. For that to happen, they need to see more of Isaac. That's not going to happen through people playing through Golden Sun in 2018. It's going to happen through fan art.
Fan art has a lot of power, because it gives people a way to connect with a character they don't already know through playing the game. With good fan art, you can get people thinking of Isaac as a living, breathing personality-filled character rather than just another JRPG fossil. Make fan art of Isaac interacting with Smash characters, maybe even in the World of Light. Make fan art showing him annoyed at being an AT again (or hopeful and ready to become more). Use fan art to highlight his abilities as an earth adept, so that people don't think of him as another generic swordsman. And of course, share that fan art where it will be appreciated by Smash fans and Nintendo fans. Twitter and the Reddit for starters. The timing is perfect, because for now at least, Isaac has the Smash community's attention, thanks to the Grinch leak.
Unfortunately that advice is only useful if you have some talent for fan art. It wouldn't do me any good, for instance. But the Isaac community is big. If you can get Isaac fans showing off their artistic chops, or, failing that, commissioning some cool works, I think that's the most you can do as a community.
On a less positive note, Isaac fans need to keep their expectations in check, just like all other fans. For all we know, all the DLC for Smash Ultimate may have already been decided upon anyway. Character campaigning for Ultimate DLC may very well be totally futile. Share the Isaac love just for fun, but don't invest effort and emotion into campaigning that wouldn't be worth it to you for its own sake.
Matt Bozon's tweets, for instance, are very interesting. We can conclude that Shantae hasn't been ruled out for DLC as far as Matt knows, and that WayForward is not under any agreement with Nintendo that would forbid them from asking fans to support Shantae for DLC.
This probably indicates that Shantae has not at this point been decided upon as a DLC character. Even that is not certain, but if she were already in the works, I suspect WayForward would keep mum on the subject.
Attempting to read anything more into his tweets beyond that is pointless. Matt Bozon himself likely knows next to nothing about the DLC process for Smash Bros. The 4 out of 5 thing was clearly just a silly joke, since obviously no single character or franchise is going to get 4 out of the 5 DLC spots.
The same applies to Sakurai. He states that they haven't yet created any of the paid DLC, and that work will begin on them as soon as they are finished with the main game. Even taking Sakurai at his word, this doesn't indicate whether or not they have selected characters for DLC. And frankly, it's very possible that Sakurai isn't being 100% truthful with some of his statements.
I hate to say it, but the best information we have on Smash DLC is leakers, and that info is hardly comforting. As I saw someone on Reddit point out, a very realistic worst case scenario might be Steve, Dragon Quest rep, gacha character, new FE sword user, and new Pokémon.
The DLC characters might not all be selected yet, but given the relatively quick timeframe, it seems like there's a good chance that they are. As for whether there will be more than one season of DLC, nobody has anything but pure guesses.
I think you should all just support whichever Golden Sun character you most want to join the roster. But, if you are asking from a strategic perspective which of them I think is the most viable candidate, it's still Isaac. He is still very much the face of the series, and the one GS character everyone's been hearing about. The Isaac movement actually has been very successful, in that he's one of the most popular requests now. If you try to switch focus to a different character instead, I think you'll just lose all that momentum. Plus, I still don't buy this AT de-confirmation thing everyone's talking about. The only case in which I think it's de-confirmation is if there's only one season of DLC and those characters are already chosen, in which case we're all just spinning our wheels anyway.
Aside from sticking to Isaac, the next most helpful initiative for the Isaac community would be fan art.
Isaac isn't a controversial candidate; you see very little Isaac hate out there. Rather, people think of Isaac as being an otherwise worthy candidate who is shafted by Golden Sun being a dead series. The way to counter this impression is NOT through argument. When you tell people that Golden Sun isn't THAT dead, or that it COULD come back to life, or that it doesn't matter for Smash if Golden Sun is dead, well, that just keeps the focus on Golden Sun being dead.
What you need instead is for Isaac to feel alive to people. Get people invested in Isaac and Golden Sun. For that to happen, they need to see more of Isaac. That's not going to happen through people playing through Golden Sun in 2018. It's going to happen through fan art.
Fan art has a lot of power, because it gives people a way to connect with a character they don't already know through playing the game. With good fan art, you can get people thinking of Isaac as a living, breathing personality-filled character rather than just another JRPG fossil. Make fan art of Isaac interacting with Smash characters, maybe even in the World of Light. Make fan art showing him annoyed at being an AT again (or hopeful and ready to become more). Use fan art to highlight his abilities as an earth adept, so that people don't think of him as another generic swordsman. And of course, share that fan art where it will be appreciated by Smash fans and Nintendo fans. Twitter and the Reddit for starters. The timing is perfect, because for now at least, Isaac has the Smash community's attention, thanks to the Grinch leak.
Unfortunately that advice is only useful if you have some talent for fan art. It wouldn't do me any good, for instance. But the Isaac community is big. If you can get Isaac fans showing off their artistic chops, or, failing that, commissioning some cool works, I think that's the most you can do as a community.
On a less positive note, Isaac fans need to keep their expectations in check, just like all other fans. For all we know, all the DLC for Smash Ultimate may have already been decided upon anyway. Character campaigning for Ultimate DLC may very well be totally futile. Share the Isaac love just for fun, but don't invest effort and emotion into campaigning that wouldn't be worth it to you for its own sake.
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I was thinking that, if in the event she's a DLC character, she'd just gotten her invitation delivered and was running as fast as she could to meet up with everyone....
Dyllybirdy
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MajestyIndigo
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I mean.... these light beams make spirits lose their bodies... but rotty's case is different since her body is kinda dead already, isn't it ? It's likely that she was not even bothered by the beams in the first place or that she threw her head away, saving her spirit in the process ? idk xD She's too smart to get caught like thatOh, that just gave me a thought.
What if Rotty was able to outrun it?
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...could we go back to talking about ideas for a Shantae animated series please?!
I mean considering Mr. Fastest Thing Alive wasn’t able to escape...Oh, that just gave me a thought.
What if Rotty was able to outrun it?