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Shantae, the Half Genie Protector of Scuttle Town! (A Switch To A New WayForward)

Do you think shantae can make it?

  • Yes, as a fighter

  • Yes, as a assist trophy

  • No, not as a assist trophy

  • No, not at all


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Hyfiner

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Rotty in her human form confuses me a bit. Her attire is unlike anything else seen in Sequin Land.
Maybe she died on a boat ride from another land and her zombie corpse washed up on Sequin Land? We also don't know where the Sultana has been so maybe there can be some explanations there.

Also if we're sharing recent direct memes this one is my choice.
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Wwlink55

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I'm wondering, how long before their release are the DLC characters usually revealed ? ^^
I think it really depends. if I recall correctly, Cloud was revealed the day of.

"We're going to take a bit more time to finish up, and we'll try to make him available as soon as possible..."


"AVAILABLE LATER TODAY"
 

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Sorry bout that. You’re right, he has a lot of salty fans as well.
I promised I wouldn’t be upset if Simon got in instead, but yeah I still kinda wish he was a fighter too.

Probably wouldn’t have been as bad if I was wasn’t in the middle of making a moveset for him when he got revealed.
 
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Alright guys I am back from drill status. What has happened since yesterday?
 

Frosty Pops

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Greetings Shantae supporters. You guys aren't out yet. Hoping she makes it in as DLC! Dream team DLC: Geno, Shantae, Banjo, Bandana Dee, another 1st party character...so anything besides another minion would be ok with me *stares at pirhana plant*
 

Wademan94

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What? I always have been.
I mean I won’t deny that, but now everyone has made that transition...



I’m joking, you’re a wonderful person and I really appreciate your company. If I could I’d fly over to the UK and give you a big hug right now.

Maybe, even though I do not know how the old world looked a lot more advanced than the NEW world, in that universe...
Post-apocalyptic world or “it’s magic, don’t question it?”

Become? I have always been like this, I just never had the right ammunition till now.
I should’ve known. What have I signed myself up for?!
 
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EarlTamm

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You know, I wonder what Shantae would think of the newcomers who arrived in this game. And I mean in a legitimate in character relationship way.
 

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You know, I wonder what Shantae would think of the newcomers who arrived in this game. And I mean in a legitimate in character relationship way.
Of the top of my head, she’d probably have a strong kinship with the Inklings and Simon/Richter and she’d probably try to convince Isabelle to switch mayors with her for starters.
 

BlueCrush

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I don't aim to dampen the mood of anyone here, but after seeing Shantae become a spirit and hearing Vergeben allude to Minecraft content, Granblue rep, and a Square Enix rep, I'm really worried for Shantae's chances at being playable. Verge has never been wrong and that means 2-3 of the 5 dlc picks are already locked and implies Sakurai already made DLC choices which makes the fact that Matt Bozon is supporting and talking about Shantae being in Smash as a DLC fighter is more worrying than encouraging since it may mean he isn't on an NDA and therefore she wasn't selected. With all this said however, I absoloutely don't aim to bring down the determination here and would really be ecstatic to see her in the game. I'm just teetering on how high her chances are. She performed pretty well on the ballot, but looking at the state of Isaac, it doesn't appear as if the ballot really decided or meant anything when it came to most Smash Ultimate newcomers barring K Rool. With only 2-3 slots already filled up and people citing numerous characters like Bandana Dee, Geno, and Banjo as DLC "locks", do you guys feel like she has a good shot?
 

EarlTamm

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Of the top of my head, she’d probably have a strong kinship with the Inklings and Simon/Richter and she’d probably try to convince Isabelle to switch mayors with her for starters.
Makes sense. Strangly, and I don't know why, but I am curious of what she would think of Ken. Maybe it's because he has a bit more personality compared to many of the other characters, idk. Also, live with that shame of that "Of" for the rest of your life.
I don't aim to dampen the mood of anyone here, but after seeing Shantae become a spirit and hearing Vergeben allude to Minecraft content, Granblue rep, and a Square Enix rep, I'm really worried for Shantae's chances at being playable. Verge has never been wrong and that means 2-3 of the 5 dlc picks are already locked and implies Sakurai already made DLC choices which makes the fact that Matt Bozon is supporting and talking about Shantae being in Smash as a DLC fighter is more worrying than encouraging since it may mean he isn't on an NDA and therefore she wasn't selected. With all this said however, I absoloutely don't aim to bring down the determination here and would really be ecstatic to see her in the game. I'm just teetering on how high her chances are. She performed pretty well on the ballot, but looking at the state of Isaac, it doesn't appear as if the ballot really decided or meant anything when it came to most Smash Ultimate newcomers barring K Rool. With only 2-3 slots already filled up and people citing numerous characters like Bandana Dee, Geno, and Banjo as DLC "locks", do you guys feel like she has a good shot?
I admit, her chances for that fighter pass does not look so good, but I am of the opinion that there will likely be a season 2, considering how long of the Switch's life span we have left and how they no longer have to make character for two games like last time. And hey, Matt has hope for her, so I don't see why we should not support her. Also, I recall Verge himself admitting he is not 100% sure on those DLC picks himself due to the nature of the situation. I don't know, if I am wrong about that, be sure to correct me.
 
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"Of" the top of my head. :p

Anyway, I don't think she'd do that to Mayor Scuttlebutt, that just sounds mean.
Makes sense. Strangly, and I don't know why, but I am curious of what she would think of Ken. Maybe it's because he has a bit more personality compared to many of the other characters, idk. Also, live with that shame of that "Of" for the rest of your life.
OF the numerous options that the vast landscape that is my mind can manifest, those were the first options that surfaced.

No I’m not bitter, what are you talking about?

Actually now that I think about it, I’d actually feel sorry for Isabelle in that scenario, at least Villager seems somewhat competent in his :183: duties. (sorry, just needed to get that one out of my system, I don’t want this to turn into another epidemic)

EDIT: I think she, Ken and Ryu would get along pretty well, actually once I get better with muscles, I’m tempted to draw out a scene where the two carry around Shantae on their shoulders.
 
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I don't aim to dampen the mood of anyone here, but after seeing Shantae become a spirit and hearing Vergeben allude to Minecraft content, Granblue rep, and a Square Enix rep, I'm really worried for Shantae's chances at being playable. Verge has never been wrong and that means 2-3 of the 5 dlc picks are already locked and implies Sakurai already made DLC choices which makes the fact that Matt Bozon is supporting and talking about Shantae being in Smash as a DLC fighter is more worrying than encouraging since it may mean he isn't on an NDA and therefore she wasn't selected. With all this said however, I absoloutely don't aim to bring down the determination here and would really be ecstatic to see her in the game. I'm just teetering on how high her chances are. She performed pretty well on the ballot, but looking at the state of Isaac, it doesn't appear as if the ballot really decided or meant anything when it came to most Smash Ultimate newcomers barring K Rool. With only 2-3 slots already filled up and people citing numerous characters like Bandana Dee, Geno, and Banjo as DLC "locks", do you guys feel like she has a good shot?
i wish people didn't read into vergeben as much as they did. i understand his credibility has seen a boost after he beat the grinch leak, but he has missed things and gotten things incorrect in the past and he never really is sure on anything. hell, he never really confirmed the granblue rep, just passingly mentioned that the possibility came up in some talks he had with another leaker. the only thing he's sure on is the square enix rep. i highly doubt both minecraft steve would appear as a fighter, especially alongside another microsoft rep such as banjo & kazooie. spirits deconfirming characters is just headcanon and sakurai has said nothing that even implies toward the matter. same can be said for assist trophies chrom is a mii outfit, final smash, and fighter literally all at the same time. rathalos is a stage danger and an assist trophy, at the same time. meta ridley is a spirit and an outfit for ridley, at the same time. and best of all, wii fit trainer is a spirit and a fighter, all at the same time.
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i would've thought the introduction of piranha plant would have taught people by now that actually trying to predict what sakurai will and won't do is a lost, especially when it's been shown a character can occupy different statuses at one time.

also i dont feel that passive talks of new characters from semi-credible leakers alone do anything to confirm that sakurai has already chosen DLC, so Matt not being on NDA isn't really that worrying.

and theoretically, a scenario that i'm alarmed no one really considers is that maybe sakurai has planned the full dlc roster (even though i doubt it) and shantae is on there, but they simply haven't gone in talks with wayforward about it, or are gauging her popularity.
 

Hyfiner

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I don't aim to dampen the mood of anyone here, but after seeing Shantae become a spirit and hearing Vergeben allude to Minecraft content, Granblue rep, and a Square Enix rep, I'm really worried for Shantae's chances at being playable. Verge has never been wrong and that means 2-3 of the 5 dlc picks are already locked and implies Sakurai already made DLC choices which makes the fact that Matt Bozon is supporting and talking about Shantae being in Smash as a DLC fighter is more worrying than encouraging since it may mean he isn't on an NDA and therefore she wasn't selected. With all this said however, I absoloutely don't aim to bring down the determination here and would really be ecstatic to see her in the game. I'm just teetering on how high her chances are. She performed pretty well on the ballot, but looking at the state of Isaac, it doesn't appear as if the ballot really decided or meant anything when it came to most Smash Ultimate newcomers barring K Rool. With only 2-3 slots already filled up and people citing numerous characters like Bandana Dee, Geno, and Banjo as DLC "locks", do you guys feel like she has a good shot?
That's understandable as we're all unsure on where things stand. Though I wouldn't say Verg is always right (*cough* Soul Calibur *cough*) so I wouldn't go and frame his GameFAQ posts yet.

Nobody knows what Sakurai's planning and anyone who says they do should be taken with a grain of salt. Just look at Piranha plant. It's better to wait a few months at least until the first DLC announcement before we start making drastic assumptions. It's only been 3 days after the direct and people are already jumping to conclusions.
 

DeltaSceptile

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I don't aim to dampen the mood of anyone here, but after seeing Shantae become a spirit and hearing Vergeben allude to Minecraft content, Granblue rep, and a Square Enix rep, I'm really worried for Shantae's chances at being playable. Verge has never been wrong and that means 2-3 of the 5 dlc picks are already locked and implies Sakurai already made DLC choices which makes the fact that Matt Bozon is supporting and talking about Shantae being in Smash as a DLC fighter is more worrying than encouraging since it may mean he isn't on an NDA and therefore she wasn't selected. With all this said however, I absoloutely don't aim to bring down the determination here and would really be ecstatic to see her in the game. I'm just teetering on how high her chances are. She performed pretty well on the ballot, but looking at the state of Isaac, it doesn't appear as if the ballot really decided or meant anything when it came to most Smash Ultimate newcomers barring K Rool. With only 2-3 slots already filled up and people citing numerous characters like Bandana Dee, Geno, and Banjo as DLC "locks", do you guys feel like she has a good shot?
How about this? Just ignore Vergeben. There is no ****ing way (I’d bet my damn life on it) that Minecraft Steve will be in smasH, Saying Minecraft content will happen in smash is like saying DK will get a fair amount of reps in smash: IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN!!
 

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OF the numerous options that the vast landscape that is my mind can manifest, those were the first options that surfaced.

No I’m not bitter, what are you talking about?

Actually now that I think about it, I’d actually feel sorry for Isabelle in that scenario, at least Villager seems somewhat competent in his :183: duties. (sorry, just needed to get that one out of my system, I don’t want this to turn into another epidemic)

EDIT: I think she, Ken and Ryu would get along pretty well, actually once I get better with muscles, I’m tempted to draw out a scene where the two carry around Shantae on their shoulders.
They'd probably be pretty impressed with how Shantae needs only to read a scroll once to instantly learn any techniques. Although her kicks could use some more "oomph"...
 

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How about this? Just ignore Vergeben. There is no ****ing way (I’d bet my damn life on it) that Minecraft Steve will be in smasH, Saying Minecraft content will happen in smash is like saying DK will get a fair amount of reps in smash: IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN!!
Watch as one of the DLC packs includes Dixie Kong as well as a Tropical Freeze stage/song list on top of K Rool at base, but yeah I agree with everything else.
 

DoctorFate

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Tragically, I think its because Konami already has 2 characters and an echo, so the idea of them getting more seems unlikely to many.

I am pretty sure when you pay for the rights to use a character, you can use the character for whatever you want. And even if not, since they have already worked out things with Square related to the character, it would not be too difficult to work out a new deal with the character. It would certainly be more easy than having to go through two companies for Sora, pay the insane amount needed for a DQ character and everything else that comes with it, or go through the legal nightmare that is Chrono.
It entirely depends on the contract. Just because you pay for using a character's likeness doesn't mean you can use that likeness in any way you want. The contract has to specify the ways in which the likeness usage is permitted or else you threaten breaking contract and amassing legal fees.
 

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Watch as one of the DLC packs includes Dixie Kong as well as a Tropical Freeze stage/song list on top of K Rool at base, but yeah I agree with everything else.
Ya know I hope you’re right about one of the packs being DK. But seeing how the series has been treated in smash in the past makes me highly doubt Sakurai would ever include any dk things postgame.
 

EarlTamm

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It entirely depends on the contract. Just because you pay for using a character's likeness doesn't mean you can use that likeness in any way you want. The contract has to specify the ways in which the likeness usage is permitted or else you threaten breaking contract and amassing legal fees.
Makes sense. Still, I think that would make having a discussion with Square for making Geno playable a bit easier compared to many of the other Square characters.
 

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Ya know I hope you’re right about one of the packs being DK. But seeing how the series has been treated in smash in the past makes me highly doubt Sakurai would ever include any dk things postgame.
We've been saying the same things about Metroid and yet...
 

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i wish people didn't read into vergeben as much as they did. i understand his credibility has seen a boost after he beat the grinch leak, but he has missed things and gotten things incorrect in the past and he never really is sure on anything. hell, he never really confirmed the granblue rep, just passingly mentioned that the possibility came up in some talks he had with another leaker. the only thing he's sure on is the square enix rep. i highly doubt both minecraft steve would appear as a fighter, especially alongside another microsoft rep such as banjo & kazooie. spirits deconfirming characters is just headcanon and sakurai has said nothing that even implies toward the matter. same can be said for assist trophies chrom is a mii outfit, final smash, and fighter literally all at the same time. rathalos is a stage danger and an assist trophy, at the same time. meta ridley is a spirit and an outfit for ridley, at the same time. and best of all, wii fit trainer is a spirit and a fighter, all at the same time.
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i would've thought the introduction of piranha plant would have taught people by now that actually trying to predict what sakurai will and won't do is a lost, especially when it's been shown a character can occupy different statuses at one time.

also i dont feel that passive talks of new characters from semi-credible leakers alone do anything to confirm that sakurai has already chosen DLC, so Matt not being on NDA isn't really that worrying.

and theoretically, a scenario that i'm alarmed no one really considers is that maybe sakurai has planned the full dlc roster (even though i doubt it) and shantae is on there, but they simply haven't gone in talks with wayforward about it, or are gauging her popularity.
Thank you, so much.

Unfortunately, people will worship this guy regardless.
He is like a cult leader at this point...
 

Hyfiner

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Makes sense. Still, I think that would make having a discussion with Square for making Geno playable a bit easier compared to many of the other Square characters.
That may be the case but let's remember that it's square that decides which of their characters gets into Smash. And since it's DLC I feel they'll be more willing to promote a Dragon Quest character for their continuing series rather than a doll from 20 year old game with no sequels.
Actually now that I think about it, I’d actually feel sorry for Isabelle in that scenario, at least Villager seems somewhat competent in his :183: duties. (sorry, just needed to get that one out of my system, I don’t want this to turn into another epidemic)
You're walking on thin ice there bud. But don't worry I'll let it slide.


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