Meta, I'm pretty sure every single one of us is capable of doing what you did to figure that out, no reason to do that.
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Scumfever you got nothing to say about my 755? Any agreements, disagreements or things you like to add? Deadline is in 3 - 4 days so we best not start squandering time again. Not sure wether MKirbys last posts were scummy or not. Reminds me of Riddle from FFVII. Cacti lynch looks good, Kevin's flip will give us some good information and Macman is getting suspicious too. Those are my three top lynch candidates for now.
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Don't do it again, MKirby. We gain absolutley nothing by you pointing out Xiivi's identity (regardless whether it's true or not) so you better keep quiet about that in the future. It helps mafia more than town.
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Don't do it again, MKirby. We gain absolutley nothing by you pointing out Xiivi's identity (regardless whether it's true or not) so you better keep quiet about that in the future. It helps mafia more than town.
skimmed over it so i could catch up and get the main jist of what it was about, going to go back and reread it carefully after i eat dinner.
Ok. Almost all of your points have merit. I agree that Cacti looked suspicious with his Nick and the RVS thing. One thing I'm not quite getting is why you think Marshy is the scummiest? His outburst against survivors were strange, especially for a role tat might ngiht be here, but i'd like to elaborate more on why you think marshy is the scummiest (i think you meant scummiest as you said summiest). But you'd be okay with the Cacti lynch even though he's claimed vanilla? I also agree that lynching Kev could draw alot of connections to others, don't really think he's scum though.
tl;dr
You say Marshy is the scummiest but you want Cacti to die. In your post you only really talk about Cacti when discussing Nick and the RVS thing. What else?
tl;dr
You say Marshy is the scummiest but you want Cacti to die. In your post you only really talk about Cacti when discussing Nick and the RVS thing. What else?
Nicholas1024
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Meh. It was the RVS, after all, and I do start a Rule #1 wagon every game, regardless of whether Handorin's actually in the game or not.
Personally, I don't think the miller claim works in Xivii's favor, simply because of the wifom that goes with it, and its one that can't be cleared up by a cop investigation.
Yes, yes, and more yes.
I see... I'm not exactly too sure about it, as he misconstructed the intention of my RVS comment the same way Cacti did. (Although, I did respond with some additional comments in the way he was interpreting them, so...)
Hm... I would like to hear more from Frozen, in the way that you did this. He's a good player, but I haven't heard much from him this game. My suspicions (in no particular order) are Xiivi, Cacti, Meta Kirby, Ronike, and KevinM.Out of the wagon I find Marshy the summiest overall but I don't know how scummy he really is. This game is just so bandwagon-happy that I assum that there are lots of independent players in this game which could match the theme. This makes me inclined to believe Ronike's claim so I don't think he should be the play toDay.
The thing about Marshy that bugged me the most was the survivor claim thing. Not particularily suspicious again but I still think it's strange to draw that much attention to a role that's possibly not in the game. Frozen joining that whole thing is rather bizarre as well.
212 - 223 was a pretty bad sequence of posts, especially by Chaco who should know better than to pointlessly argue with an unCCed Cop. Something to keep in the back of my mind (especially since we don't have much to work with regarding Chaco).
I still find Cacti to be a good lynch for toDay and I will probably end up voting him. Frozenflame, Chaco, Scumfever and Xonar please step your game up and start to give your input on things. Even if not everything I posted will directly help us to find scum it'll give us something to talk abou so get into this game as soon as you can.
"Put Captain Solo in the cargo hold."
17th Vote Count
Cacti (5) - Ronike, KevinM, frozenflame751, Scumfever, Marshy
Gheb_01 (2) - Nicholas1024, Macman
Frozenflame751 (1) - Xonar
Meta-Kirby (1) - Xiivi
Scumfever (1) - Cacti
Not Voting: (3) - Meta-Kirby, Chaco, Gheb_01
With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.
17th Vote Count
Cacti (5) - Ronike, KevinM, frozenflame751, Scumfever, Marshy
Gheb_01 (2) - Nicholas1024, Macman
Frozenflame751 (1) - Xonar
Meta-Kirby (1) - Xiivi
Scumfever (1) - Cacti
Not Voting: (3) - Meta-Kirby, Chaco, Gheb_01
With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.
Really suspicious of both Scumfever and Gheb saying they want to lynch me just based off of flip information without really thinking I'm scum.
I never said I want to, I simply said lynching you would draw different connections to others.
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man im glad swords is out this game
cacti scumfevah can go. all for lurking and when they do post i feel like im wasting my time
chaco is mehiunno. i liked his -+ system cuz i figured id have a good grasp of where his head was at but then he started wasting time preaching to the uncc'd cop and stalling. hes since done nothing but lurked so this initial gg read is ****ed. chaco you should consider replacing out
in fact @ mods steel/tom: is chaco eligible to be replaced?
def down to go meta kirby if theres support for that
ronikes indyhunter claim...wanna say it makes sense to me considering all of toms indies in ff7 but why no role name ronike?
just realized xiivi was outed. whoops. feel like im missing something about this claim though. he can explain when he hardclaims then
wtf @ cactis 430. he votes gheb because gheb "only posted d1 to push the ck/xonar lynch" but gheb made more of an effort than others to explore other stuff
scumbagfever absolutely needs to ****ing go. vacuous post after vacuous post. this is making me think cacti may not be the way to go considering cacti wants him dead as well
gotta see more of a scumhunting effort from frozen. dont think hes a play today though
conclusions: nicktown kevintown xonarawfulfukntown macmantown roniketown **** the cop claim
cacti scumbagfevah scummeta kirby can all go. nonvoters get off their *****. xonar vote someone else cuz were not going frozen today
man im glad swords is out this game
cacti scumfevah can go. all for lurking and when they do post i feel like im wasting my time
chaco is mehiunno. i liked his -+ system cuz i figured id have a good grasp of where his head was at but then he started wasting time preaching to the uncc'd cop and stalling. hes since done nothing but lurked so this initial gg read is ****ed. chaco you should consider replacing out
in fact @ mods steel/tom: is chaco eligible to be replaced?
def down to go meta kirby if theres support for that
ronikes indyhunter claim...wanna say it makes sense to me considering all of toms indies in ff7 but why no role name ronike?
just realized xiivi was outed. whoops. feel like im missing something about this claim though. he can explain when he hardclaims then
wtf @ cactis 430. he votes gheb because gheb "only posted d1 to push the ck/xonar lynch" but gheb made more of an effort than others to explore other stuff
scumbagfever absolutely needs to ****ing go. vacuous post after vacuous post. this is making me think cacti may not be the way to go considering cacti wants him dead as well
gotta see more of a scumhunting effort from frozen. dont think hes a play today though
lol
conclusions: nicktown kevintown xonarawfulfukntown macmantown roniketown **** the cop claim
cacti scumbagfevah scummeta kirby can all go. nonvoters get off their *****. xonar vote someone else cuz were not going frozen today
Ronike has been prodded. Chaco still wants to play and will soon.
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w/evs, id be down most with scumfever, just dont like his posting.
w/evs, id be down most with scumfever, just dont like his posting.
then god**** vote him. deadline in like 3 days
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onoes 72 hours
always underestimated. scumbagfevah has 1 vote. what is even stopping you
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Lazyness
Vote: Scumfever
Vote: Scumfever
Nicholas1024
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Hm. I'll be fine with either a Scumfever or a Cacti lynch. Neither one seems to be making a major effort to scumhunt. I think I'd prefer Cacti though, due to Gheb's points against him.
In that spirit,
Vote: Cacti
In that spirit,
Vote: Cacti
unvote cacti
-2 again for the sake of more talk
-2 again for the sake of more talk
I'm waiting for gheb to answer my questions.
this question.
I said Marshy was the scummiest of the Nick wagoners, not the scummiest player overall.
I also want to hear something from Frozen because IIRC he's supposed to reply to my 577 and also answer Marshy's question. I'm starting to doubt that Cacti is mafia because it seems that almost everybody is OK with his lynch. Not sure if scum would bus him in this situation though I don't think we lose too much by lynching him. This'd all change if that lazy mofo would start to actually post something and I really want him to come back into this game. Same for Chaco, Frozen and Ronike. Scumfever is also posting fluff en masse - that's a lot of weight to carry. Step your game up if you're town.
I also want to hear something from Frozen because IIRC he's supposed to reply to my 577 and also answer Marshy's question. I'm starting to doubt that Cacti is mafia because it seems that almost everybody is OK with his lynch. Not sure if scum would bus him in this situation though I don't think we lose too much by lynching him. This'd all change if that lazy mofo would start to actually post something and I really want him to come back into this game. Same for Chaco, Frozen and Ronike. Scumfever is also posting fluff en masse - that's a lot of weight to carry. Step your game up if you're town.
Oh wow, is pretty much all I can say at this day. To much junk going on to get good reads, although I'm pretty sure I've pinned my golden townies for the next few days, which would be Meta-Kirby, Xonar, Gheb, Nick, and Marshy. I pretty much refuse to do +- for Gheb because all that will be is a battle of alternating between the two. Ultimately ending up with a spree of ++'s in the end. The only people I am really actually doing today is Ronike, KevinM, Macman, and Cacti. To be quite honest, all of these people really stand out to me. If I had to put it in any order it would be something like: Macman, Ronike, Cacti, KevinM.
Macman: Can't wrap around completely why yet, but I'm feeling he's scum in this game. Like it's a strong feeling. Very, very strong. I'll be interested in him in the upcoming days, but really I do not want him to survive past tomorrow unless he makes a drastic turn around and gleams in my eyes. I just don't trust him in this game.
Ronike: I'm really interested in Ronike because I don't know what's going through his head and as to why an "indie cop" would be useful. In all honesty, I see no need for it. So I'm quite curious there, but that's flavor speculation. I'm trying to rely more so on scumhunting this game than playing "Follow the PR". It can turn out to be really bad. So, I just really do wanna look at him more closely post wise than to just follow Nick's investigation and his claim.
Cacti: No completely understanding this wagon on him right now. It's another thing I'm going to have to go through and completely look at. So uhm, I guess that's an okay lynch if nothing else comes up. Beats a no lynch since he's not exactly helping. But I can't exactly say much there.
KevinM: I really just never can read KevinM well at all, his style is a mix of scumhunting and goofing off. It pains me to try and figure him out, and this is why he's on this list. Nothing to do with the "hired gunman" crap. This isn't a scumlist, just people I'd like to look more at. Anyways, I'm going to go back through and check him out. I don't really see +- being as useful when doing it on Kevin because at times it's hard to make out his intent. So I'll pretty much just post my thoughts on him, instead of going at it in an individual manner.
As far as overall thoughts go, to much revealed today for our own good. Doc should know where to go, and I trust that they will. To much goofing off, arguing, and just flat out whining to call today "productive". I really would like a nice clean orderly thread tomorrow so I can organize my thoughts. I don't see that happening though, sooo...yeah, in a few minutes I'll start going through and doing the individual ratings of Mac, Ronike, and Cacti.
I am going to keep my vote withheld right now, as I will most likely not be joining the Cacti wagon. Just seems meritless to me at this point. He's more useless than anything right now, so getting rid of him will neither be beneficial nor helpful. We lynch him and we quite honestly gain nothing unless the slight chance that he is Scum/Indy. We will gain no connections that I can see, and well, I just don't see the use. I'd be much, much happier with a Macman lynch for today. But that even is still pending from my rating on him.
Macman: Can't wrap around completely why yet, but I'm feeling he's scum in this game. Like it's a strong feeling. Very, very strong. I'll be interested in him in the upcoming days, but really I do not want him to survive past tomorrow unless he makes a drastic turn around and gleams in my eyes. I just don't trust him in this game.
Ronike: I'm really interested in Ronike because I don't know what's going through his head and as to why an "indie cop" would be useful. In all honesty, I see no need for it. So I'm quite curious there, but that's flavor speculation. I'm trying to rely more so on scumhunting this game than playing "Follow the PR". It can turn out to be really bad. So, I just really do wanna look at him more closely post wise than to just follow Nick's investigation and his claim.
Cacti: No completely understanding this wagon on him right now. It's another thing I'm going to have to go through and completely look at. So uhm, I guess that's an okay lynch if nothing else comes up. Beats a no lynch since he's not exactly helping. But I can't exactly say much there.
KevinM: I really just never can read KevinM well at all, his style is a mix of scumhunting and goofing off. It pains me to try and figure him out, and this is why he's on this list. Nothing to do with the "hired gunman" crap. This isn't a scumlist, just people I'd like to look more at. Anyways, I'm going to go back through and check him out. I don't really see +- being as useful when doing it on Kevin because at times it's hard to make out his intent. So I'll pretty much just post my thoughts on him, instead of going at it in an individual manner.
As far as overall thoughts go, to much revealed today for our own good. Doc should know where to go, and I trust that they will. To much goofing off, arguing, and just flat out whining to call today "productive". I really would like a nice clean orderly thread tomorrow so I can organize my thoughts.
I don't see that happening though, sooo...yeah, in a few minutes I'll start going through and doing the individual ratings of Mac, Ronike, and Cacti.I am going to keep my vote withheld right now, as I will most likely not be joining the Cacti wagon. Just seems meritless to me at this point. He's more useless than anything right now, so getting rid of him will neither be beneficial nor helpful. We lynch him and we quite honestly gain nothing unless the slight chance that he is Scum/Indy. We will gain no connections that I can see, and well, I just don't see the use. I'd be much, much happier with a Macman lynch for today. But that even is still pending from my rating on him.
yes!
guys im getting a scummy vibe from chaco, and it honestly was before i even read his post about being suspect of me
i'll probably hammer anyone
Explain why.
No, you won't. Don't go in with an attitude like that, I want you to put your vote down before hammer. Regardless of whether you like it or not.
Can I get agreement from town members on this, I have a theory Mac uses this to act townie when he's scum. If you would, please allow this to stop. It makes no difference if he hammers. But I want someone who will not drop hammer until deadline.
Major scum points for that post Mac.
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Sorry, been busy with other games, I know no excuse, but I also had a killer headache yesterday that kept me from catchin up.
Anyways, I really didn't give a role name? Lets see... Town independent rolecop (confusing m' I rite?) Basically, what I think it means is I can investigate people, but if they aren't indy I get nothin. If they are, I get a hint at their role. But we'll just have to wait and see what happens tonight.
Y' know, I think Chaco has a point about macman. More than willing to lynch him. In fact...
Unvote Vote: Macman
If y'all want me to switch back to cacti I will.
Anyways, I really didn't give a role name? Lets see... Town independent rolecop (confusing m' I rite?) Basically, what I think it means is I can investigate people, but if they aren't indy I get nothin. If they are, I get a hint at their role. But we'll just have to wait and see what happens tonight.
Y' know, I think Chaco has a point about macman. More than willing to lynch him. In fact...
Unvote Vote: Macman
If y'all want me to switch back to cacti I will.
funny you ask me to explain why, when in your post you give absolutely no reasoning for why im suspect to you.
i'll hammer any of the options cuz i keep changing my mind on who i think is scum and im getting tired of it so ill jsut do w/e today and take a stab at it tomorrow.
and omg, macman has such an amazing new strat! He- guess what- tries to act like he's town as scum! omg so broken!
not at all worried about getting lynched, ever.
i'll hammer any of the options cuz i keep changing my mind on who i think is scum and im getting tired of it so ill jsut do w/e today and take a stab at it tomorrow.
and omg, macman has such an amazing new strat! He- guess what- tries to act like he's town as scum! omg so broken!
not at all worried about getting lynched, ever.
Still would rather take down Cacti first.
Not really getting any sort of vibe from the Macman
Not really getting any sort of vibe from the Macman
lol bandwagon ninja. It's more than obvious when I am scum, its not my fault yall can't figure it out so you decide to grasp for straws in games where i'm obv town in.
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The point about you being scummy. And also about the post he quoted. Oh and...
Fix'd Oh and since when is "Its obvious when I'm scum, so Im obviously not" a valid defense? People do get better you know.
I don't see the point, can you point it out to me?
Perfectly fine with a Macman lynch now, he reacted extremely poorly. I will still be doing the system when I get home to lock it in however.
But Mac, "not at all worried about getting lynched, ever" is a scum saying. There's no shade of grey about it. I've used it, and seen many others use it. But only as scum.
Vote: Macman
But Mac, "not at all worried about getting lynched, ever" is a scum saying. There's no shade of grey about it. I've used it, and seen many others use it. But only as scum.
Vote: Macman
as long as i don't quick hammered, im not gonna get lynched
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Interested to see Chaco's list, don't like macman, but he's always scummy tbh anyways so w/evs
Chaco and Ronike need to explain their reasoning for voting me.
ronike first tho, cuz he's alluding to some point chaco made that doesn't exist
Not nearly as bothered by Gheb's vote cuz I believe he fosed me earlier in the game and i've been on his back the entire time so it atleast makes sense for him.
ronike first tho, cuz he's alluding to some point chaco made that doesn't exist
Not nearly as bothered by Gheb's vote cuz I believe he fosed me earlier in the game and i've been on his back the entire time so it atleast makes sense for him.
Ronike
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I agree with this, that its more of a vibe thing, but in looking back, you've been trying to stay out of the light a lot today, and a number of your posts just seem fillery or passing off choices you should be making to others.
I also agree with chacos post after this.
Nicholas1024
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You are not a Jedi, Macman. Hand-waves will not convince anyone. Although, you are right. It is more than obvious that you're scum here.
Also, I don't like how you'll just "hammer anyone". That implies that you don't care who gets lynched, which in turn implies an anti-town mindset.
Looking back at your posts, I see what Chaco means. You've been saying "I'm down for a player X lynch", and "Not seeing the weight behind Player Y's lynch", but I haven't actually seen you give any reasons, or try to make your own case.