Scar talks Lean Melee [2012YotF]

[thumbswayup]

The Marth matchup goes back and forth for me. Some days I utterly **** the Marths I play, others they **** me. And whenever they **** me it's because I was always dumb enough to approach them by the ledge, where they get those easy gimps/edgeguards. Also, Marth's grab is gay cause of that tech chase and uptilt nonsense. So now I just dd a bunch to grab, to **** and then NEVER go near the edge ever. I just get the lead and then make sure to keep the Marth in the center of the stage.

I'd sooner ban FD than FoD against a Peach. I despise FoD more than anything, but that chaingrab is just so stupid and painful to deal with.

raaaaaaaape

brawllover is a legend though

lmao

this really isn't a question, but i found it interesting. on yoshi's story if you go in the middle of the stage and full jump you can't get onto the top plateform but if u dair or uair when you full jump you can. idk if this has alrdy been discovered i bet it has but i havn't seen or read anything about this. again alot of you prob knew this so don't call me a noob ***. but i just really noticed it.

**** I don't think I've noticed that lol. Might have done it by accident before

since when did falcon players start playing dull when you have the option to be flashy as ****?

i'm disappointed.

When I'm playing well, I tend to go for flashy things instead of the easy kill or win. It often costs me the match.

Isai doesnt use Cstick at all either.

Is this seriously true?

 

[skyheart]

na, isai has fsmashed with cstick before

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

yea isai played with A button. supposedly darkrain does too

 

[thumbswayup]

I switch off between using A and c stick almost randomly. I can't even tell which one I like more, but usually for a knee when I have to follow a character that DI'd my stomp away, I'll use A for the knee, which is why I almost always reverse knee them and it's mostly entirely on accident.

 

[P.C. Jona]

whats up with the pranked thing?

 

[g-regulate]

I switch off between using A and c stick almost randomly. I can't even tell which one I like more, but usually for a knee when I have to follow a character that DI'd my stomp away, I'll use A for the knee, which is why I almost always reverse knee them and it's mostly entirely on accident.

im the same way, depends on what youre comfortable with in different situations.

 

[iamthemicrowave]

Ok i have a legitmate moonwalking question that I cannot find the answer to and I feel the guide is ambiguous. To get the best(ie farthest) moonwalk do you move the stick all along the bottom, OR as close to the center as possible without going through(otherwise you dash dance)?

 

[Mogwai]

option 2

 

[g-regulate]

the key is to get to down and hold back, as soon as you dash forward. the sooner you are holding back (after the initial dash), the longer the moonwalk

 

[Scar]

g-reg are you going to chu's final TGIF thing

i wanna go

 

[Nakamaru]

I've found that getting it to the same angle as a wave dash works as opposed to strait back. This is just a personal preference and i get a good moonwalk out of it. It also helps me stay closer to neutral on the stick whenever i'm rolling back.

 

[iamthemicrowave]

thank you g-reg and mogwai for clearing me up on this

 

[g-regulate]

yea think of the dash animation and how many frames goes into it. if you dash frame 1, press down frame 2, and hold back frame 3 for all the rest of the frames, you will do a massive moonwalk. smaller moonwalks simply mean you held back at a later frame.

 

[GamerGuitarist7]

whats up with the pranked thing?

seconded .

 

[Mogwai]

yea think of the dash animation and how many frames goes into it. if you dash frame 1, press down frame 2, and hold back frame 3 for all the rest of the frames, you will do a massive moonwalk. smaller moonwalks simply mean you held back at a later frame.

well, I thought perfect moonwalk was dash frame 1, hold back frame 2 for the rest of the moonwalk, but I could be wrong.

 

[Scar]

you're wrong that would prob be a dashdance

 

[Strong Badam]

that'd be a PIVOT dash scar how are you so dumb omfg

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

well, I thought perfect moonwalk was dash frame 1, hold back frame 2 for the rest of the moonwalk, but I could be wrong.

this is true

 

[Mogwai]

to my understanding, it would only be a dash dance if your stick went through neutral, but I'll concede that I don't have perfect knowledge of the workings of moonwalks.

 

[pockyD]

that'd be a PIVOT dash scar how are you so dumb omfg

what's the difference between this and a dash dance

 

[SuperMatt]

dude falco is a bossssss

 

[Zephyr]

It's MAHVEL BAYBEE

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=241668&page=24

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

if you press left frame 1 and right frame 2 you will moonwalk, regardless of if you go through neutral or not.

 

[BigD!!!]

i think you mean dashdance

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

if you hold left frame 1 and frame 2 then go right on frame 3, it won't be a moonwalk. if its frame 1 hard left frame 2 right it will be a perfect moonwalk. go test it

 

[iamthemicrowave]

if you hold left frame 1 and frame 2 then go right on frame 3, it won't be a moonwalk. if its frame 1 hard left frame 2 right it will be a perfect moonwalk. go test it

how can you test frame perfect movements with your thumbs...unless you're m2k

 

[Cups]

who the **** is this bigD and what have you done with my drewb008

 

[BigD!!!]

i had him banned

cups you didnt come to smym i miss you

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

how can you test frame perfect movements with your thumbs...unless you're m2k

go have cunning test it for you, he is pretty close

 

[BigD!!!]

how do you know if youre doing it on frame 1 and 2 as opposed to frame 1 and 3 or 4

 

[soap]

joe bushman can count frames

 

[iamthemicrowave]

joe bushman can count frames

Whatever happened to that guy? Cunning told me he got a job as an actuary O_o

 

[Meneks]

If we can't count frames and test frames whats the point in even mentioning it?
Everything i learned i learned without the knowledge of frames or how they work..
Just good ole practice

 

[pockyD]

knowing frames gives you concrete information about whether something can work or not just by doing some simple math

it's not that relevant for learning to moonwalk, but especially for comparing the speed/stun of 2 moves, it's much better to compare numbers than to go with one move "feeling" better or safer

 

[P.C. Jona]

im not sure about this

but i dont think mango knows frames

i dont think the top players do, except for m2k

 

[Mogwai]

i dont think the top players do, except for m2k

Mogwai knows about frames, get *****.

 

[thumbswayup]

He said top players.

 

[Meneks]

he Said Top Players.

Dayuuuuuum

 

[iamthemicrowave]

Dayuuuuuum

zing!

thumbs i was watching vids of your cf against chRed, nice stuff man

 

[Mogwai]

He said top players.

thanks thumbs, that was the joke