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Scar talks Lean Melee [2012YotF]
- Thread starter Scar
- Start date
jona tryna bait a race moneymatch
otg
Smash Master
Alright you know what *****, I'm about to drive 5 hours upstate. You wanna race to see who gets there first?
Dynamism?
Smash Champion
I drive faster than anyone NOT racing. At all times.
I don't even stop at red lights because you can't see me. RAWR
I don't even stop at red lights because you can't see me. RAWR
CorteX
Smash Cadet
hahaha bozo
there's nothing you can do about it, just dont get hit and 0-death her before she can grab you.
its pretty funny you're asking this question here after we both lost from a decent sheik player yesterday.
just stomp her ftilts, shield a lot and lure for the almighty uthrow to knee.
uair is extremely good for sheiks too.
but even with all this advice I can't beat good sheiks either
its just a matter of time my falcon brother, soon we will ****.
also, for racing I don't even need a f*ckin car.
i do it on my bare feet and I guarantee you that I will be 1 second faster.
Kind regards,
Ocarina of Time's Hyrule Field Running Man
there's nothing you can do about it, just dont get hit and 0-death her before she can grab you.
its pretty funny you're asking this question here after we both lost from a decent sheik player yesterday.
just stomp her ftilts, shield a lot and lure for the almighty uthrow to knee.
uair is extremely good for sheiks too.
but even with all this advice I can't beat good sheiks either
its just a matter of time my falcon brother, soon we will ****.
also, for racing I don't even need a f*ckin car.
i do it on my bare feet and I guarantee you that I will be 1 second faster.
Kind regards,
Ocarina of Time's Hyrule Field Running Man
Mokumo
Smash Ace
if youre having trouble getting out of tech chases you should try to mix it up as best you can with both your DI and your teching. condition your opponent into thinking you have a pattern and then break from it by switching it up. like DI away -> tech away, then DI behind -> tech behind, then DI away again and dont tech at all or something. You have to be more intense about it then that, and even then if youre playing mew2king youre still gonna get grabbed.i have got a qeustion about sheik how i deal with Dthrows i always DI left or right then i tech en jab but sometimes she just regrabs me any tips? really need them
and btw dont stomp their Ftilts, theyll just hit you. stomping their down tilts might work though
D
Deleted member
Guest
buffer jump to not get *****
buffer roll is good to do once in a while and when they expect the roll you buffer jump, they grab air and you come down and knee
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What is a good way to edgeguard samus and peach?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn7AI_QFn1I#t=10m46s
what can i do to cover both options here? in this exact spot of fox's recovery?
buffer roll is good to do once in a while and when they expect the roll you buffer jump, they grab air and you come down and knee
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What is a good way to edgeguard samus and peach?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn7AI_QFn1I#t=10m46s
what can i do to cover both options here? in this exact spot of fox's recovery?
$mike
Smash Ace
edgeguarding samus and peach - moonwalk (not necessary but it helps) and bair/reverse uair is usually what i do. reverse uair works especially well on peach
i think in that situation where connor was recovering, he started his up b close enough to the stage where you could have reached him with a full hop bair. if not that, an uptilt would have been a good option - had he not gone for the ledge, the tilt would have probably left you with enough time to punish another option.
.Nub.
Smash Rookie
I see a lot of "dont approach" stuff here. is it ever ok to make the first move? EVER!!!???????......
Winston
Smash Master
doing it from reaction there is probably hard but doable, I think. Refresh invincibility before his firefox fires, then either roll from the edge or ledgehop knee/bair.
Utilt standing on the edge should also cover both main angles, while giving you time to do a uair/knee if he goes at a really high angle.
ETWIST51294
Smash Hero
No, this is Falcon, not Falco. If you approach, make sure it's with a nair or a suprise knee.
Tomacawk
Smash Master
bair may have worked. Uair works for sure, the mistake you made was ledge hopping too fast. drop lower before you dj uair and you can ensure you land on the stage while still putting a hitbox in front of the ledge, as well as on top of it
Juggleguy
Smash Grimer
Edgeguarding a Firefox that hits the ledge completely horizontally is always tricky. Does he have some sort of invincibility that goes with this specific scenario? I've never hit a Fox with utilt or dtilt out of it.
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Guest
next time i am just going to do a suicide knee
(but actually hit)
(but actually hit)
Winston
Smash Master
dtilt doesn't really hit below the stage.
utilt should definitely be able to hit them if he goes completely horizontal like in this case.
The tricky case I think is when he starts the firefox from slightly above the stage height and goes at a slight downwards angle, because then he gets a sweetspot. If he goes completely horizontal like that fox kind of bumps into the stage before grabbing the edge and you can hit him with a properly spaced/timed utilt.
utilt should definitely be able to hit them if he goes completely horizontal like in this case.
The tricky case I think is when he starts the firefox from slightly above the stage height and goes at a slight downwards angle, because then he gets a sweetspot. If he goes completely horizontal like that fox kind of bumps into the stage before grabbing the edge and you can hit him with a properly spaced/timed utilt.
s2j usually what i do in situations like that, where i can tell theyre going to firefox for sure but im not sure where, is go out there and dj uair them
its risky if they forward b, but people hardly ever forward b in situations like that where youve hit them nice and high and far away and theyre falling after they use their double jump. if anything you really only need to worry about that against people you play with all the time
theres no way to cover all the options (forward b, all up b angles), but you can get most of them including a forward b if they wait long enough for you to get there before they do it
edit: jump out at peach and stomp her, works wonders for an occasional surprise kill
its risky if they forward b, but people hardly ever forward b in situations like that where youve hit them nice and high and far away and theyre falling after they use their double jump. if anything you really only need to worry about that against people you play with all the time
theres no way to cover all the options (forward b, all up b angles), but you can get most of them including a forward b if they wait long enough for you to get there before they do it
edit: jump out at peach and stomp her, works wonders for an occasional surprise kill
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dtilt works if they illusion, not if they firefox.
real gentleman: as fast as possible AAA hold A.
real gentleman: as fast as possible AAA hold A.
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Deleted member
Guest
looking at my match again i did a big mistake by grabbing the edge too slow, making me have to pick an option
Tee ay eye
Smash Hero
i heard you in the commentary in hugs vs zhu, johnny!
ill get them to rig our pools/brackets at gsg! muahaha
jk
ill get them to rig our pools/brackets at gsg! muahaha
jk
Wenbobular
Smash Hero
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I don't think you grabbed it too slow, you still could've reacted to the straight at you option
I think grabbing it sooner and refreshing invincibility would've gotten you more mentally prepared for the "just roll to kill him" option though ~_~
I think runoff double jump Uair would've covered the low options and allowed you to react to higher firefoxes also ... maybe?
I think grabbing it sooner and refreshing invincibility would've gotten you more mentally prepared for the "just roll to kill him" option though ~_~
I think runoff double jump Uair would've covered the low options and allowed you to react to higher firefoxes also ... maybe?
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Guest
iono
im still a tourney noob so my mind was being fried at that point
and facing 3 foxes with unique styles in a row is tough
im still a tourney noob so my mind was being fried at that point
and facing 3 foxes with unique styles in a row is tough
g-regulate
Smash Hero
JUST BOOKED MY APEX HOTEL
i want to play people in this thread!!!!!!
wooot!!
i want to play people in this thread!!!!!!
wooot!!
ETWIST51294
Smash Hero
Scar should change the thread name to "Scar (etwist) says this: Approach like a rapist, wait for your opportunity"
Tomacawk
Smash Master
g reg money match my fox at apex
ETWIST51294
Smash Hero
New Jersey.
prog
Priest of the Temple of Syrinx
play me in tvc
.Nub.
Smash Rookie
Why does playing green falcon make me sexier than when i played blue?? i seriously tend to win more with green...
Scar
#HarveyDent
probably mindset
i play differently with different colors, really weird
i think it's 100% mental
i play differently with different colors, really weird
i think it's 100% mental
wasn't it like
normal = normal style
black = rapist
white = gay
green = smooth
and blue = sandbag rofl
on-topic: how do i outspace armada
watch ss do it on youtube
and i agree on the colors
when i play pink i play like hax safe and gay style
when i play green i get more creative and cancel alot of stupid stuff
when i play black i just try to ****
when i play other colors i just play how i want
and i agree on the colors
when i play pink i play like hax safe and gay style
when i play green i get more creative and cancel alot of stupid stuff
when i play black i just try to ****
when i play other colors i just play how i want
lol...wait hax and g-reg arent gay.
and yes SS has a smooth *** falcon
black (darkrain brings that ****)
normal (i wouldn't say there's anything normal about scar's style)
mango is the color of the rainbow (omnipresent style with all colors)
as gay as that sounds
and yes Isai sandbags that *** off.
and yes SS has a smooth *** falcon
black (darkrain brings that ****)
normal (i wouldn't say there's anything normal about scar's style)
mango is the color of the rainbow (omnipresent style with all colors)
as gay as that sounds
and yes Isai sandbags that *** off.
have you seen hax play????
lol
kid is campier then spammer on pokefloats http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krLCZrQfZSk
lol
kid is campier then spammer on pokefloats http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krLCZrQfZSk
ETWIST51294
Smash Hero
So I'm not the only one that plays gay when wearing pink (Hax$)? WTF.
Btw Prog, TvC gay, PLAY MAHVELLLLLLLLLLLLL.
Btw Prog, TvC gay, PLAY MAHVELLLLLLLLLLLLL.
ETWIST51294
Smash Hero
Wheres Blastroner???
dp but i dont give a fuuuuuuuuuuuucccccccccckkkkkkkkk
dp but i dont give a fuuuuuuuuuuuucccccccccckkkkkkkkk