Scar on the Melee vs Brawl debate: What does competitive really mean?

[Smooth Criminal]

No matter what I still like Brawl better for competition.

But as far as this whole "elitist" thing... please. Just stop using that for an argument as to why the Melee fans say Melee is better for competition. That's an even easier way out to say Brawl is better than rather just saying, "Brawl is better because it has more content." At least you're giving a reason on what you've seen. "Just saying that Melee fans think Melee is better because they have some elitist attitude towards the game," is completely unfair. They've played both games. They've gotten as good as they're gonna get in both games. (I say that because not all Melee fans are pros, but are a part of the competitive community in the sense of entering tournaments or something like that). They've analyzed both games as games, and as a result, have come across an opinion that is widespread across the competitive Smash community. Yes, it may seem like some of the Melee fans are trying to make it some kind of fact that Melee is the better competitive game when it's still simply just a widely held opinion, but look... try analyzing both games for what they are. Compare and contrast. That's what I did. And from there, I've determined that I like Brawl more for comp. Who knows, maybe the Melee players are right, the game is shallow, and I'll end up going back to Melee for comp. (although by then, I'll probably have a career as a writer or a computer programmer and could hardly care less while the community evolves.) But this whole "elitist" argument... just stop it. Okay? STOP!

It's not elitist, it's just the majority that you can't beat or persuade.
Analyze both games, and maybe you'll find out that Melee is the better competitive game, or maybe you'll be like me and like what Brawl has to offer for comp. instead.
Empty arguments, generally, DO NOT help the Brawl side of life, do they?

This is worthy of going in the OP. Great post, Marko.

Smooth Criminal

 

[EC_Joey]

If you hate Brawl, love Melee, think Melee is better, despise Brawl, have written a book on 1001 reasons why Brawl sucks, love the crackhead speed of Melee... and still play Brawl... consider yourself Brainwashed...

Explain this or change it, please. :D

 

[arrowhead]

Analyze both games, and maybe you'll find out that Melee is the better competitive game, or maybe you'll be like me and like what Brawl has to offer for comp. instead.

most of us already have. we choose melee because of the reasons already presented in this thread

 

[Jack Kieser]

^ You see that pro-brawl guys.

Be more like jack..>_>;

Well, shucks... *2% Edgespike*

 

[znintendotaku]

Explain this or change it, please. :D

dude your dumb that makes perfect sense....

....besides....

...the dark knight is an abomination to batman movies...

im not saying its a bad movie... it just shouldnt be batman...its not something to go all otaku over....(obsess)

 

[Gabz]

Ok yeah youre rightmy posts gives headecks. Sorry now that i know that, i´ll try to write like this ^^.

 

[Smooth Criminal]

dude your dumb that makes perfect sense....

....besides....

...the dark knight is an abomination to batman movies...

im not saying its a bad movie... it just shouldnt be batman...its not something to go all otaku over....(obsess)

>___> Oh, Lord.

Somebody please give this kid an STFU uppercut. Yes, call me elitist if you want, but ya'll can't deny that this was an inane post. Especially with the "otaku" part.

And Variola, if you think Marko's sig is bad...

Smash is meant to be fun.
Not some elite, esoteric, wave-dash orgy...

*points.* Thread exit is bat-away, NintendoOtakuThingie. If you don't have anything nice to say (i.e. any worthwhile contributions to the subject matter), then don't say anything at all (re: LEAVE).

MAJOR EDIT: And I still love Jack, btw. <3

Smooth Criminal

 

[arrowhead]

dude your dumb that makes perfect sense....

....besides....

...the dark knight is an abomination to batman movies...

im not saying its a bad movie... it just shouldnt be batman...its not something to go all otaku over....(obsess)

your sig explains your extreme level of stupidity, and that's not even counting this post

 

[Reaver197]

dude your dumb that makes perfect sense....

....besides....

...the dark knight is an abomination to batman movies...

im not saying its a bad movie... it just shouldnt be batman...its not something to go all otaku over....(obsess)

You have put yourself into an unforgivable situation here. Read some god**** American comics like The Dark Knight Returns.

I will stand by saying that the Dark Knight is the best superhero movie ever made. EVER.

I think you need to wavedash more, man. It will give you a new perspective on things!

 

[Eternal phoenix Fire]

dude your dumb that makes perfect sense....

....besides....

...the dark knight is an abomination to batman movies...

im not saying its a bad movie... it just shouldnt be batman...its not something to go all otaku over....(obsess)

Do you get great satisfaction from insulting people at every given opportunity? ALl i've seen you do is just insult people. Your response to his question wasn't necessary or helpful, so kindly shut up.

 

[thumbswayup]

dude your dumb that makes perfect sense....

....besides....

...the dark knight is an abomination to batman movies...

im not saying its a bad movie... it just shouldnt be batman...its not something to go all otaku over....(obsess)

And here I was thinking you couldn't possibly say anything to make you look like more of an idiot.

 

[Reaver197]

Even your beloved anime disapproves of you.



Edit: And, lol, encyclopedia dramatica links get filtered. LOL.

 

[-Linko-]

LOL, this thread has become a "Who can flame Nintendotaku the hardest"-fest.

Ps: Nintendotaku is a ***** piece of **** f**** **** mother****er ****.
NO JOHNS!

 

[EC_Joey]

dude your dumb that makes perfect sense....

....besides....

...the dark knight is an abomination to batman movies...

im not saying its a bad movie... it just shouldnt be batman...its not something to go all otaku over....(obsess)

Again with this wapanese crap. You know how the term "otaku" came to be used in general in Japan? A serial killer in Japan by the name of Tsutomu Miyazaki. The Wiki article about him states that:

"Between 1988 and 1989, Miyazaki mutilated and killed four girls, ages four to seven; he then sexually molested their corpses. He drank the blood of one victim and ate her hand.

A police search of his two-room bungalow turned up a collection of 5,763 videotapes, some containing pornographic anime and slasher films. Interspersed among them was video footage and pictures of his victims.

In 1989, he became to be known as "The Otaku Murderer". His bizarre murders fueled a moral panic against otaku."

Nowadays Japanese only refer to themselves as "otaku" to joke about themselves by exaggerating their little obsessions. Being proud of being an "otaku" just shows you have no idea of the background of the word, and are ignorant in general.

 

[Smooth Criminal]

Even your beloved anime disapproves of you.

Edit: And, lol, encyclopedia dramatica links get filtered. LOL.

>___< I like anime and manga. Take it easy on me, mang.

*SOBS.*

Smooth Criminal

 

[Jack Kieser]

>___> Oh, Lord.

Somebody please give this kid an STFU uppercut. Yes, call me elitist if you want, but ya'll can't deny that this was an inane post. Especially with the "otaku" part.

And Variola, if you think Marko's sig is bad...



*points.* Thread exit is bat-away, NintendoOtakuThingie. If you don't have anything nice to say (i.e. any worthwhile contributions to the subject matter), then don't say anything at all (re: LEAVE).

MAJOR EDIT: And I still love Jack, btw. <3

Smooth Criminal

Agreed. Oh, and I love you too, Smooth Criminal. I'm saving up cash to make a road-trip during the semester to visit a friend in VA; I'm totally gonna try to stop in GA if I can. I'll let you know when I find out more info. ^_^

 

[Smooth Criminal]

Awesome, Jack. Looking forward to seeing you here.

Smooth Criminal

 

[Reaver197]

>___< I like anime and manga. Take it easy on me, mang.

*SOBS.*

Smooth Criminal

lol, Smooth Criminal, you're awesome. You made one of the best tournaments ever. I couldn't possibly malign you.

I don't have so much an issue with anime and manga in of themselves as some (or maybe its a majority, I can't tell) of the fanbase for it.

 

[thumbswayup]

That's very true. Most people that like anime and manga are typically insane. I watch anime casually and only enjoy it when it's good. I only read the one manga that is worth reading: Berserk

 

[Reaver197]

Yes, Berserk is/was awesome. I unfortunately can't find it anymore so I've not been able to read it. But, ****, the series is so old but still ongoing.

 

[EC_Joey]

That sick **** I posted about was only executed just last month.

I have no problem with people who like anime and manga. Some of my best friends love it. I just think that there a huge portion of that community take it too far. Enjoying the anime and manga is one thing, but using stupid terms ad nauseum in an attempt to seem cool or hip makes me sick. Cool, you know a couple broken phrases of Japanese, can you stop acting like an idiot now?

 

[Smooth Criminal]

lol, Smooth Criminal, you're awesome. You made one of the best tournaments ever. I couldn't possibly malign you.

I didn't MAKE the tourney (thank CDE for that), but I did try my best to make that **** so hype that people from OOS would come to it. And, sure enough, they came and made that tourney memorable.

I AM going to be co-hosting a GA tourney of my own soon, providing that my friend and I can secure a venue. Straight Melee for three days. It will be called: Boot to the HeAD.

As far the anime/manga fanbase is concerned: Yes. I can't stand weeaboos/wapanese people who exalt Japanese culture. It's obnoxious and the primary reason why I avoid 'cons of all sorts.

Smooth Criminal

 

[metaXzero]

I miss Georgia.

 

[Clai]

dude your dumb that makes perfect sense....

....besides....

...the dark knight is an abomination to batman movies...

im not saying its a bad movie... it just shouldnt be batman...its not something to go all otaku over....(obsess)

This... is amazing... I'm speechless... I don't even know where to begin...

After several pages of posts where just about everyone credible in this thread said how awesome the Dark Knight was... when there are two people in this thread with JOKER avatars... after all of these people have already known about your stupidity and poor use of the word "otaku"... there was still a path of neurons and brain cells that said, "I'm going to insult the Dark Knight and it will be okay." And your judgment allowed you to do that...

There is no STFU photo that could describe what we must all be feeling.

I need to, like, dissect your brain or something. Figure out exactly what happened in your brain that said "I think I'll do this now and not worry about how much I'll get flamed for it..." Take it to a lab, create a counter-response for it... GUYS! I think this guy can cure ignorance! We must protect this guy's brain at once! Think of the peace, think of the sterility we could accomplish!

I want to carpool with Jack Keiser and Smooth Criminal, but I'm afraid I'm all the way over here in the North... *sigh* I need to go partying with you guys...

But I think I need to bring this back to Brawl, so here I go: What is all of this "Brawl's dashdancing is crap" business? I know that Melee's dashdancing was pretty universal, but I don't think there's anything about Brawl's dashdancing that has too many limitations. I think dashdancing could be quite useful in Brawl, if too many people weren't so busy projectile spamming...

 

[Reaver197]

Oh, my bad. I had thought that you had helped set it up by how aggressively you were advertising it.

Man, I really wish I could attend more of these things, but between work and having very limited means of transportation, I can hardly go to anything, lol. Plus, I wouldn't probably place that well since I would be nervous as all hell, lol.

But, urgh. I used to have some friends who were REALLY into anime (I don't do much with them anymore obviously) and they convinced me to go to some small convention. I had no idea what they were like, but once I got there I was thinking "This was the worst ****ing idea ever". And it was a small and unpopular one apparently. I can't imagine how the large ones are, urgh.

 

[Jack Kieser]

Clai, that post was epic. +10 internets are awarded to you. Oh, and a big thumbs up on the party idea. ^_^

 

[thumbswayup]

Yes, Berserk is/was awesome. I unfortunately can't find it anymore so I've not been able to read it. But, ****, the series is so old but still ongoing.

Find it, there are plenty of sites that have it. I can't name one right now cause I haven't read it in almost 2 years and I left off on one huge cliffhanger. I'm going to start again as soon as I can. It's the best (and longest lol) thing I've ever read.

 

[Golem the Stern Father]

dude your dumb that makes perfect sense....

....besides....

...the dark knight is an abomination to batman movies...

im not saying its a bad movie... it just shouldnt be batman...its not something to go all otaku over....(obsess)

(This is very fitting)

And I thought that your speech in the AGBDG was bad... You're on a thin leash, so if you want to stay, make sure to limit the amount of idiotic messaging.

Please, stay on topic, think before speaking, and do not unsult the Dark Knight! (which film recieved the most income during opening weekend in film history? That's right)

LOL, this thread has become a "Who can flame Nintendotaku the hardest"-fest.

The cure for what ails you I guess.

 

[Reaver197]

Yeah, I've been recently looking through websites, but it seems Darkhorse/DC is doing a pretty good job of finding everyone that's hosting/translating it. I mean, I don't doubt that there's a source for it somewhere, but the ones I used to get it from are all dried up.

 

[EC_Joey]

I went to Anime Boston over Spring Break this year and KDJ was there. =)

 

[Golem the Stern Father]

*rant*

There is no STFU photo that could describe what we must all be feeling.

*rant*

That rant was great by the way...

(What is it with me and posting large pics on forums today?)

Everyday, there's a user that post something increadably stupid in this thread, you could flame that user for 6 hours and could continue for another 6 hours. Yesterday it was Chu245, today is znintendotaku. Who will it be tomorrow?

 

[EC_Joey]

Everyday, there's a user that post something increadably stupid in this thread, you could flame that user for 6 hours and could continue for another 6 hours. Yesterday it was Chu245, today is znintendotaku. Who will it be tomorrow?

500 pages here we come.

 

[Jack Kieser]

500 pages here we come.

We're on our way! How long until we reach it, or will the thread be closed before then? Bets, anyone? *puts on little green visor*

 

[Golem the Stern Father]

the point of the thread (ostensibly) is showing which game is the better game competitively. For some people, that also means which game is more "fun" for them. If you wanted to argue about which game you found more fun and why, it would get no where, because what one person might find fun another might hate.

18% of the users that are flammed in this thread have misinterpreted the subject which game is the better game competitively. (and that 86% of all statistics are made up from the spot)

We're on our way! How long until we reach it, or will the thread be closed before then? Bets, anyone? *puts on little green visor*

*inserts intended money for a money match*
Page 478, the page that this thread is filled with spam from a user that the moderators do not ban until the damage is already done. (Jakadactyl anyone?)

<--- Kirbopher15 reference FT? (1111 exp code).

 

[thumbswayup]

You all need to set your options to have 40 posts per page. It makes things so much easier. Also, you'd realize that we only have 162 pages.

 

[Jack Kieser]

You all need to set your options to have 40 posts per page. It makes things so much easier. Also, you'd realize that we only have 162 pages.

Potato, potahto.

...yeah, I guess that doesn't really have the intended effect online.

 

[thumbswayup]

We should just go with the number everyone sees: 6477 posts. We're almost at 7k

 

[Zankoku]

Potato, Pokémon.

 

[Jack Kieser]

Potato, Pokémon.

Spudsly, the Potato Pokemon.

 

[Chuee]

We're on our way! How long until we reach it, or will the thread be closed before then? Bets, anyone?

I say if this thread doesnt get closed we will get 500 maybe by the end of this week.