Sakurai realized he has turned Samus into a sex object?

[Fawriel]

*sigh*
1. It's already been said a few thousand times that it's fine that she's pretty, it's only natural since she has good genes and whatnot. The point is that she's PRESENTED as sexy, which goes AGAINST her original nature of dark, mysterious and whatnot.
2. Why is the only alternative to beautiful "fat and ugly"? She can't even possibly be fat to fit inside that suit... just proves my criticism of society, unless you can give me a better explanation for your choice of words.

 

[Caael]

Bowser isn't a woman, nor my mother. Possibly the worst insult I have heard today.

Fawriel, you have good points. Anybody presented as sexy loses any mood they used to have. But maybe it's just a breath of fresh air. Besides, she wont be seen to often if she isnt a standard character.

 

[Fawriel]

That kind of makes sense. Since "mature" consumers always fall for the sex-appeal.

Hmm... *scratches head*
So, they're adding a sense of maturity.... to compensate for Wario's wackiness?
And... more of a sense of maturity than a lone wolf bounty-hunter whose parents were killed and who has to protect the universe from a species of parasite mutants called forth by a giant brain in a metallic jar or something like that? Funky.

 

[Caael]

Okay, maybe it isnt to add maturity.

If she is presented sexy, then people are always going to say and think that it adds a sex appeal.

 

[Banks]

i can't believe some guy actually argued me to that extent.

I was kidding sorta...but i dont get erections from 3d characters. LOL

 

[Red Exodus]

This is so ********, LET IT DIE ALREADY!

Who cares if she's pretty? The fact is there are men who are attracted to any type of woman, any. As long as Samus is a woman she is a sex object, so until her suit goes Ironman and changes her sex she will be a sex object.

 

[HideousBeing]

You gotta admit, the sales will probably sky-rocket because of this, though I don't know whether to think that it's for better or for worse. You can't blame Sakurai for trying an effective marketing method. After all, the less control Nintendo has over the game, (seeing as it is now in Sakurai's new company's hands) the less likely the game will stick to their protective, harmless, filtered genre.

 

[Red Exodus]

So Brawl will do well because..... ZSS is hot? Wow that explains everything!

/sarcasm

 

[Banks]

but its not like shes naked, she just has boobies

 

[greenblob]

Augh, this thread isn't going anywhere b/c people aren't reading.
Attractive=/= sex object. Female =/= sex object. Boobs =/= sex object. Samus has had all three since the beginning and she's never been a sex object until recently (relatively speaking). It is the way she is presented/marketed that matters.

Yes, sex sells, and no, there's nothing wrong with that...for the most part. The reason Samus shouldn't be a sex object is because of tradition. Samus has always been the "female video game character who isn't a sellout" among other things. It appears that the current trend is going against this idea.

 

[tshahi10]

O kay... the people want money
they know that some jerks dont give this game a chance, cause it is nintendo
put a female with appeal and it adds more support to brawl not being soley for kids.
a situations/ whatever the term is to strech a truth to make a point

Poe- are you getting brawl, it's gonna be great
dope- nah thats for kids
poe- but it has zero suit samus, and she has big fruit
dope- i'll reconsider,maybe, but right now let me return rumble roses xx
some pervs will be so fixated on her, they will mess up their gameplay
that gives girls(though not l's) an upperhand while using her

basically it is society over an individual
samus does not matter how she is portayed out of her style, but how she is portayed for the good of society-brawl--money

so
more pervs
more high levelled lucky girls
more customers in general


even i, when i saw her for the first time was thinking like........................


OMG think of zss suit changing into a beige color and to a lesser extent that has to be done-orange/red/yellow or else team mode is recked

 

[HideousBeing]

I already posted this on another forum, but has anyone noticed that ZSS has a remarkable resemblance of Nova from the cancelled StarCraft: Ghost?

They're doing the same thing to Samus as to other commercialized sex appeal games!

 

[Banks]

yea, and i wanted to play that starcraft ghost game. i think it was announced for n64 at one time wasnt it? lmao that got pushed up someones *** then cancelled, too bad

 

[HiddenTiger]

Oh, jeez. Who bumped this thread? I thought all this crap had finally died and gone away. Now we have to deal with it all over again. Well then, allow me to interject a new point of view here.

I believe exactly the opposite of what this thread claims. The way I see it, Sakurai was trying to de-sexualize the image and appearance of a non-suited Samus. Think about it. In the majority of Metriod games, when you get the special ending that shows Samus out of her suit, she looks like this. Skimpy bikini. Long, flowing blonde hair. Ditzy look on her face. That's what Nintendo, not Sakurai, has made her into in almost all of her games. By using this full body suit design from Zero Mission, and making her appear more serious overall, it seems to me that Sakurai wants to try and pull ZS Samus away from the image that this thread claims he's trying to perpetuate. I will concede that there will be those insatiable perverts who see her and start drooling, but to say that the character was created to pander to those people seems like quite a stretch to me.

 

[Red Exodus]

This is getting ********.

How is adding ONE female character in a SPACE SUIT selling out? How about Sakuria wants to add ZSS huh? She just came out of a big heavy chunky spacesuit [with a breastplate, which means she had breast before, yes BEFORE Brawl] what do you want her to wear?


Last time I checked God of War didn't sell over 1 million copies because there was a cutscene with nudity and sex minigame, so why the hell would adding 1 moderately attractive human to the game suddenly "boost sales"?

As far as I'm concerned if Brawl turns out ******** it's not going to sell and if it turns out good it will sell regardless of the addition of ZSS'.

 

[Lord Kirby]

omgglypuff this topic is lame. sure she is a female...but then again in melee, there were 3 of them. everyone knows that you can pause and reangle the camera to "see" things. sakurai sure is selling out. T_T

 

[HideousBeing]

Oh, jeez. Who bumped this thread? I thought all this crap had finally died and gone away. Now we have to deal with it all over again. Well then, allow me to interject a new point of view here.

I believe exactly the opposite of what this thread claims. The way I see it, Sakurai was trying to de-sexualize the image and appearance of a non-suited Samus. Think about it. In the majority of Metriod games, when you get the special ending that shows Samus out of her suit, she looks like this. Skimpy bikini. Long, flowing blonde hair. Ditzy look on her face. That's what Nintendo, not Sakurai, has made her into in almost all of her games. By using this full body suit design from Zero Mission, and making her appear more serious overall, it seems to me that Sakurai wants to try and pull ZS Samus away from the image that this thread claims he's trying to perpetuate. I will concede that there will be those insatiable perverts who see her and start drooling, but to say that the character was created to pander to those people seems like quite a stretch to me.

I dunno, when you look at the concept art picture of her, the body pose is quite alluring. Like someone said earlier in this thread, there's three kinds of hot:
-Sexy/Sensual Hot
-Gracefule/Beautiful Hot
-Cute/Spunky Hot
Samus is clearly adopting the first one.

 

[Red Exodus]

I think the difference between Japan and America/Europe and that when America sees a women it's automatically some sales strategy based on sex appeal and when Japan sees a women, it's just a woman.

 

[HiddenTiger]

I think the difference between Japan and America/Europe and that when America sees a women it's automatically some sales strategy based on sex appeal and when Japan sees a women, it's just a woman.

Thank you, thank you, thank you. I couldn't have possibly put it any better myself. It's like what I've been saying here all along. All these people who think that ZSS is only there to be sexual are all just putting together pieces that aren't there.

 

[HideousBeing]

^lol, far from it. Its horny Japanese men who give games like DOA beach volleyball the most success. Not to mention, my dad, a computer engineer, often travels to Japan on business trips. From what I hear, the sex appeal adds there are far more exposing than American billboards and adds. You look up at billboards and posters in the fronts of bookstores, and you can't help but stare or blush. I guess the censorship laws are way more leniant.

 

[Red Exodus]

Last time I check DOA sucked, the newest one got less than 4 from each of 3 reviewers. I never even conisdered getting DOA if I ever got a Xbox, sexy women or not, the game doesn't look fun. I have a PS2 and Rumble Roses doesn't look fun either, the women look decent for a game with PS2 pushing it's graphics but it looks like another crappy wrestling game.

The Guy Game is a game that actually has real life porn [I think they only show breasts though] and it got the lowest scores I've ever seen, the highest was 1.5 the lowest was 0. I wouldn't even buy it for 1 cent it looks ******** from what I've seen in the magazine.

I haven't seen any Japanese billboards or ads so I can't comment on that aspect.

 

[GreenMarth]

Sex appeal isn't gonna hurt sales is it?

well that about sums it up right there lol

 

[Red Exodus]

Sex appeal can hurt sales, there's no question about that. If Peach was some scantily dressed princess in SMB then parents wouldn't buy the game for their kids and down goes Mario's sales. Most of us were brought up on Mario so that has to show for something.

 

[Banks]

the first person to **** over samus is a big loser.

 

[GreenMamba]

But the second person is a cool, cool guy.

 

[Banks]

in that case, i hope someone did before me

 

[tshahi10]

This is getting ********.

How is adding ONE female character in a SPACE SUIT selling out? How about Sakuria wants to add ZSS huh? She just came out of a big heavy chunky spacesuit [with a breastplate, which means she had breast before, yes BEFORE Brawl] what do you want her to wear?


Last time I checked God of War didn't sell over 1 million copies because there was a cutscene with nudity and sex minigame, so why the hell would adding 1 moderately attractive human to the game suddenly "boost sales"?

As far as I'm concerned if Brawl turns out ******** it's not going to sell and if it turns out good it will sell regardless of the addition of ZSS'.

god of war was an m rated game any way. and it was not nintendo. some people look down on nintendo

 

[Banks]

some people look UP on nintendo. gg

 

[Fire Fox X]

This is a VG character were talking about. Adding ZSS won't boost sales, and shouldn't lower them. She's wearing a full body space suit, anyone who thinks that's premature adult content should get their minds out of the gutter. -_-' The game itself will determine it's sales, and I'm betting on a high number of sales myself.
Jeez, what's next? KIRBY'S NAKED! OMG! Lol

 

[Banks]

so is pikachu, and i genuinely wonder where his peepee is

 

[Fire Fox X]

I don't, that's nasty. X_x'

 

[Banks]

You can find pictures of it if you look hard enough. get it, HARD? pwn

 

[Fire Fox X]

I don't LOOK for those type of pictures. Get it? I don't LOOK?

 

[Fawriel]

And there I was thinking this conversation couldn't get any more awkward.

 

[ViviRoyPeach]

Zero Suit will be cool.

 

[tshahi10]

some people look UP on nintendo. gg

some people are under 10
some people are geeks
some people dont care(me)
some people are short

 

[Endless Nightmares]

Sakurai? Umm no, I'm pretty sure HugS turned Samus into a sex object.

 

[Devastlian]

I believe that, in terms of the intarwebs, Samus became a sex object the moment we found out she was female.

 

[tshahi10]

I believe that, in terms of the intarwebs, Samus became a sex object the moment we found out she was female.

imagine having to say you are a girl on these forum


i saw this thread in meet and greet that got so many hits cause of one girls,,,, so mmany pages

 

[Red Exodus]

The idea of girl playing smash is probably most guys' dreams so I understand where they're coming from. Personally it'd matter what she's like outside of smash and how she looks [as a bonus]. I'm not one of those guys that look for girls lacking substance, sex is overrated anyway.