Rumors Run Rampant! History of SSBB's rumors

[Black/Light]

Isn't that what I just posted elsewhere?

IDK what you posted else where. . .been looking at subbed DeathNotes.

And @ New leak. . . .It confuses me why no matter the leak theres never a newcomer for the LoZ series. I say it looks "OKkkk" but I don't trust it. . . probly fake given the events soo fare.

 

[FrogButler]

[/U]Dec 30: Added "U Want Some Ubisoft"

What is this?

 

[Furbs]

nooooo another delay in north America!? even if it's just a rumor lol its too much to handle...

 

[The Director]

This is getting ridiculous. Why do people want to give us false information? Do they want hate mail and spam? Do they enjoy not having lives?

Do something constructive with your lives instead of creating fake "leaks". You know why? By doing this, you're accomplishing nothing. Get a job. Collect stamps. Smoke weed. SOMETHING.

 

[Chiroz]

Another supposed leak?

Well, I guess these supposed leaks will just grow and grow in numbers as the Brawl day of release approaches. What bothers me most is that some of these leaks will be true and we will have no way of telling it apart :S.

 

[Got Blood?]

I like these fake leaks.Keep em coming till the real roster comes out.

 

[The Director]

We should keep track of all the dousches who post "leaks", and then when we actually know the roster we should chain them up to a wall and slowly stone them to death.

Either that or spam their inboxes with junk mail and porn.

 

[Chiroz]

We should keep track of all the dousches who post "leaks", and then when we actually know the roster we should chain them up to a wall and slowly stone them to death.

Either that or spam their inboxes with junk mail and porn.

Lol, great idea! *Starts gathering info from leak posters*

Also, your sig is full of characters that are already one shoe in Brawl. I mean all of those characters are obviously going to make it .

 

[Mike87]

It IS true actually...He did the same with Geno too BTW

Really?

well, for those lazy enough to not try to find all the posts, here they are:




X2 Sticker Packs
X5 Random Trophies
The Battleship Halberd Trophy
??? amount of coins (Usually a huge amount)
Stage: Subspace Palace
Game Mode: Subspace Survival
Game Mode: Boss Showdown! (only the 1P version)
Challenger: JaJaMaru (1st play through)
Subspace Emissary: Episode 2

Also, your Subspace Emissary accomplishments are displayed on the Wi-fi mode:' Top Brawler' profile. (Does not change your rank however).


JaJaMaru is a ninja, I have no clue what game he is from to be honest. He is really fun to play as, and is similar to Sheik except his shuriken are WAY stronger than the needles. His Final Smash is some sort of Frog too, as apposed to Sheik's Harp of the Sheikah, which is a lame attack.


Top Brawler is a wi-fi mode that allows friends to view each others records over wi-fi. More importantly, there is a 'Top 100' list of players based on these profiles (the ones that submitted the information).

I imagine it will be quite an honor to be on this list once the game gets rolling. (I was ranked 17th! out of all the testers, in case you wanted to know) The number 1 brawler is known as The Top Brawler, and is rewarded with the Top Brawler Trophy. This stays in your collection forever.

There is a list of:

Wifi Matches Won/Lost
Vs Matches Won/Lost
Subspace Acheivements
KO's
Total Playtime
Damage Taken/ Given
Self-Destructs
Classic Mode Highscore
Target Test Best times
Smash Off (Formally Known as Multi-man Melee) Highscores
Homerun Contest Distance
Stickers Aquired
Trophies Aquired
Boss Trophies Aquired
Coin Total


Ridley is not in Brawl at all, not as a boss or character.
The Metroid series only has two playable characters, Sylux and Samus, and Sylux is very similar to Samus.


Takamaru the samurai? He is in as an Assist Trophy yes.


Unlocking Captain Falcon is rather hard to explain but I will do my best.

Captain Falcon is in Brawl, you unlock him if you finish Zero Suit Samus's first mission (The first time you play as her)under one minute, and than choose him over Snake, win against Snake, and than pick him over Zero Suit Samus.

Captain Falcon is nearly the same as he was in Super Smash Brother's Melee, but is a bit slower. His Final Smash is "Final Stretch", a random fighter get's "Rival" over their head, and Captain Falcon's ship Blue Falcon,slams toward them (Usually KO'ing, and when it does KO, Captain Falcon crosses his arms and poses with cool fire around him).


Well, for those wondering about Lucario,

Lucario requires one to collect 100 trophies to unlock, to me one of the hardest characters to unlock.

His A moves are actually punch combos, every single one of them!

This might seem stale but his B moves make it work very nicely. His standard B move is a blue version of Mewtwo's dark ball, I think it is called Aura Blast or something. Smash+B is Vacuum Punch, which pulls the foe to Lucario. Up B, is Extremespeed, which is like Mewtwo's Teleport, but it is directional like Zelda's, and it causes damage. Down B is Counter, (Think Marth).

His Final Smash is 'Close Combat', he dashes at the opponent (Like Link's Final Smash), and than unleashes a blinding fury of punches, easily KO'ing the foe at 40%+.


Ness and Wolf are both in Brawl, to get them you must beat Classic with Lucas and Fox respectively.

Wolf O'Donnell is an interesting character actually, because he plays much differently from Fox (Unlike Falco in Super Smash Brothers: Melee) He has no Blaster, instead he uses a Rocket Launcher similar to Snake's, and his UP+B is a Jet Pack. If anything he plays like Snake!

Sonic pairs with Pit/ Mario/ Kirby depending on the choices you make in the Subspace Emissary. You unlock Knuckles actually, by beating c-lassic Mode with him on Hard.

Knuckles is one the better characters to be honest. He is basically overpowered. He is a very heavy character, yet he is also fast on his feet... and he has tons of strong punches. He can actually climb ledges, when you use his UP B, which is Echindna Glide, and can burrow underground with his DOWN B. His Final Smash is a powerful punch to the ground that literally KO's anyone it hits, damaging anyone one the ground with shockwaves.



Guys, there are way more than 3 third party characters, Knuckles isn't what you'd expect I'm sure, but it does not change the fact that he is in. Angel Island Zone is one of the Sonic Stages, so it is only natural.

Capcom has no part of this game, so those asking for Pheonix Wright and Megaman are out of luck.

You can expect however, to see two of Square's characters, Cecil and Geno. If you need more detail, Cecil is a faster version of Ike, with a different Final Smash, and Geno is a blue Scarecrow from some obscure Mario game that attacks using stars and lazers.



Yes, there are third party bosses, as Dr. Eggman andMetal Gear are fought in the Subspace Emissary.

Ganondorf is definately in, and he actually has his own moveset. His appearence is much different from that of Super Smash Brother's:Melee, and he has a white hole in his chest for some reason. His Down: B pulls out a light sword too, which I thought was very out of character. He has alot of magic based attacks, and is slower than Ike.



Alright there are 500 trophies in total, and 44 characters.As per my testing, I've tested extensively where I know everything there is to know about the game. I'm taking the time to read everyone's posts, so forgive me for the lack of speedy replies.

All charactershave different color schemes, but yes only Wario has an Alternate costume...

For the person asking about Top Brawler, I will tell you that is concent only, and the only way you can view a profile is by having that person on your Friend List.



Some makes me smile, some gives me the urge to kill (no Ridley!? and Sylux playable!? I hate Sylux!!! Where's Space Pirate!?!?!?). Well, we'll find out more of his false/actual info when he wakes up.

The accomplishments and ranking simples sound feasible, and how can Mario RPG be called obscure? Alot of people know what it is, you dont see Smashers saying "Lulz who is Genoz"?
Its smells like BS, but its intresting BS.

I know IMDB rumours don't hold very much weight at all, but Leon Kennedy's voice actor has been added to the cast of Brawl on the site.

Which one? they always change the voice actors for RE games.
Didnt Sakurai make a comment along the lines of "I dont want Snake to use any handguns"
Well considering that Leon relies on quite an arsenal, I doubt h'll make it in,
Unless round house kicking, suplexes, grenades and rocket launchers are his only options.
(actually it would be badass to see him whip out a chainsaw) he wont make it in.

No Megaman, but Cecil? first off, he's from Final Fantasy, and Square already said that if they put in a character, they wouldn't be from FF because they have to many characters to choose from. and if they did choose one, it sure as hell wouldn't be Cecil... Knuckles won't be in either, we already have Sonic.

Who, where and when?

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

To the people that believe DEVIL not having an Icon doesn't confirm Tamagon as not being playable:

Your reasoning is pathetic. By the time Devil was added to the DOJO, the status of ALL character on their creation was already decided.

Sakurai would have definitely known by that point who was and wasn't a character...If Devil receiving an Icon would give away Tamagon - Then they would have used a different AT as the update instead of Devil giving him the SMASH Icon...

It's common sense...

 

[SmashChu]

What is this?

Just the last rumor I added to the list.

Also, I'll try and get this new one. I need to do something with this topic.

 

[Chepe]

To the people that believe DEVIL not having an Icon doesn't confirm Tamagon as not being playable:

Your reasoning is pathetic. By the time Devil was added to the DOJO, the status of ALL character on their creation was already decided.

Sakurai would have definitely known by that point who was and wasn't a character...If Devil receiving an Icon would give away Tamagon - Then they would have used a different AT as the update instead of Devil giving him the SMASH Icon...

It's common sense...

THANK YOU! This is so absurd...

 

[Black/Light]

Theres also this guy from GameFAQ. . .

RoxasXIII

Veterans:

Mario
Link
Kirby
Pikachu
Fox
Samus
Zelda
Bowser
Donkey Kong
Yoshi
Peach
Ice Climbers
Captain Falcon
Ness
Mr. Game and Watch
Ganondorf
Young Link (Cel-Shaded)
Jigglypuff
Shiek (Transformation)
Luigi
Falco
Marth

Newcomers:

Pit
Wario
Zero Suit Samus (Transformation)
Ike
Pokemon Trainer
Diddy Kong
Meta Knight
Snake
Lucas
Sonic
King Dedede
Olimar
Wolf
Krystal
Ridley
Lucario
Isaac
Micaiah
Geno
Ashley
K. Rool
Takamaru
Kawashima
A. C. Villager
Bowser Jr.

Some Assist Trophies I know of:

Knuckles (Sonic series)
Tails (Sonic series)
Felix (Golden Sun series)
Kalas (Baten Katios series)
Claus (Earthbound series)
Sigurd (Fire Emblem series)
Mallow (Super Mario RPG)
Black Shadow (F-Zero series)
Ray 01 (Custom Robo series)
Dixie Kong (Donkey Kong series)
Bulborb (Pikmin series)
Slippy (Star Fox series)
Midna (Legend of Zelda series)
Tingle (Legend of Zelda series)
Lolo and Lala (Kirby series)
Sylux (Metroid series)
Lip (Panel de Pon series)
Eggplant Wizard (Kid Icarus series)
Chain Chomp (Mario series)

Information was obtained from a friend that works at Nintendo. I was sworn to secrecy, so I feel really bad about letting everyone know....nobody will probably believe me anyways, but here it is. I know nothing else as of right now.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

There are too many **** prophets!!!

 

[Black/Light]

There are too many **** prophets!!!

Thats to be expected with Brawl coming out in alil over 2 weeks. To think, this is only the beginning
I bet theres going to be some new list by the time I wake up.

 

[FlipTroopa]

Roxas admitted he was a fake, actually. So that one's out as well.

Good god, this is getting ridiculous...

 

[Masque]

RoxasXIII came out as being MarshallIce or someone else. Basically, he admitted that it was all crap.

 

[Boofer]

Roxas XIII is obviously just someone putting their own ideas down. Including the characters he wants and those he thinks are likely. And it seems he's paying attention to the believable prophets as well.

 

[MajinNecro69]

Nin10dough's is really convuluted. No mention of Ridley at all? He was one of the few nonplayable popular characters in the Melee INTRO for chrissake (along with Samurai Goroh and a number of Pokemon). What Metroid rep does he use instead? SYLUX...

Also, Captain Falcon unlocked through a mission via Zamus? That doesn't make any sense at all...

 

[MRun]

Prophets. You Gotta Love 'Em[/B]
What's this? Yes, after Dec. 28th update, ANOTHER prophet reared his/her head. This one said he/she knew of a Stage Builder, and also of the Dragoon item (saying there is an item you had to pick up multiple pieces for). The person said that Capt. Falcon, Ness, Sheik(still as a transformation) and Ganondorf would return. Lucario is replacing Mewtwo and Wolf would also be playable. Oh, and the smashboardians should be happy as Final Destination is back (no real surprise though). At the time of posting this, this rumor is relatively new, so it has yet to be debunked.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y39/chupelo/gamefaqs2.jpg
(image provided by AdmentNESS)

Er, this rumor is slightly inaccurate. Chaoszero, the person who started this rumor, posted this information on the week of Stage Builder. Check the moderation date in that image.

The reason that this rumor returned to the surface was because of the recent Dragoon update: it works exactly the way that Chaoszero describes it, right down to the crosshair.

So basically, this info came right after the Stage Builder, but nailed the Dragoon two months before the update.

 

[Machineking1313]

Some guy said Bug Bunny was confirmed because one of the trophies talked about shadow bugs....BUGS BUNNY CONFIRMED!! lol

 

[Black/Light]

Roxas admitted he was a fake, actually. So that one's out as well.

Good god, this is getting ridiculous...

Oh, good!
Atleast he came out. . . better than that Nin10do guy.

 

[KrystalRules]

Some guy said Bug Bunny was confirmed because one of the trophies talked about shadow bugs....BUGS BUNNY CONFIRMED!! lol

wow now thats is absolutely pitiful! lol

 

[Airgemini]

Some guy said Bug Bunny was confirmed because one of the trophies talked about shadow bugs....BUGS BUNNY CONFIRMED!! lol

That would be horrible.

 

[SurooshX]

That would be horrible.

horrible, you say?.....ET confirmed for BRAWL!!!




For those that sadly might not know, that's a reference to the ET game on the Atari (considered by many to be the worst game of all time), not the movie.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

horrible, you say?.....ET confirmed for BRAWL!!!




For those that sadly might not know, that's a reference to the ET game on the Atari (considered by many to be the worst game of all time), not the movie.

ET almost killed gaming (Especially in America) until Nintendo created the Famicon. Even though it was well received in America by certain people during some fair (Ok, a little blurry on that) NO ONE in America thought it would sell...


-That is until Nintendo created the ROB accessory and added it to the NES to sell it as an "Electronic Toy"


EDIT: My goodness...ET IS THE SSE MINISTER!!! HE'S TRYING TO KILL GAMING!!! Using the very devices that saved it - THE FIEND!!!

 

[jupiter]

I was hoping that Zelda's DOWN B was her LIGHT ARROWS. and that Sheik would be in a separate character slot.

*poo* I hope this happens. If not, Sheik as a DOWN B move would still be cool. I use both Zelda effectively and Sheik (my main).

Actually...thanks for reminding me. I have to make a video of me whooping some serious butt with Zelda against some skilled friends (not really pros, but good enough).

 

[RandomGuy42]

I could've sworn that AnimalCrossing rumor was proven fake. Because when it was finally translated, yes it was from Famitsu, and yes it was about Animal Crossing, but that was it: It was about Animal Crossing. There was no mention of Brawl anywhere in the article.

 

[SurooshX]

ET almost killed gaming (Especially in America) until Nintendo created the Famicon. Even though it was well received in America by certain people during some fair (Ok, a little blurry on that) NO ONE in America thought it would sell...


-That is until Nintendo created the ROB accessory and added it to the NES to sell it as an "Electronic Toy"


EDIT: My goodness...ET IS THE SSE MINISTER!!! HE'S TRYING TO KILL GAMING!!! Using the very devices that saved it - THE FIEND!!!

ya i know lol.

I think if the ACTUAL Super Mario Bros. 2 came out in the US, we would've been turned off of gaming again. MY GAWD! what a hard game. SO HARD!!!!!

 

[Blue_Brawler]

Longest. Rumor. EVAR!
From the depth of GameFAQ spawned ANOTHER rumor. This one was, to put it simply, long as ****. The man claims he is a beta tester for Brawl and says a heck of a lot. He say there will be a lot of goodies, how to unlock Falcon and Lucario (and their Final Smashes) tells of Wolf, Knuckles (yes Knuckles), Takamaru as an assist, Celic and Geno from SE, no Capcom, the stuff you get for betting the SE, some modes, and there will be 44 characters. It's pretty long, and I may have missed a few things. It's believed to be BS since characters like Tamagon are on the list, and it mentions an online ranking system (which is confirmed to be a no show). Of course, this is crazy enough to turn out to be true just for the sake of irony...............
(credit to Sabrewulf238, and many others).

That sounds really intresting..
Does anyone have a link of that Topic on GameFaqs or know more about this?

 

[ChronoBound]

I could've sworn that AnimalCrossing rumor was proven fake. Because when it was finally translated, yes it was from Famitsu, and yes it was about Animal Crossing, but that was it: It was about Animal Crossing. There was no mention of Brawl anywhere in the article.

Yeah, I remember submitting the supposed scan of the interview to Samurai Panda, and asked him to see if there was any mention of Smash Bros. in it, he told there wasn't, thus deconfirming that rumor.

Also, that latest rumor with Nin10dough saying that he has the roster was confirmed false by a fatal mistake he made in one of his statements. He said that Tamagon is a playable character, however, if Tamagon was a playable character, then there would have been a unique symbol in the Devil Assist Trophy update, thus deconfirming Tamgon and in turn also Nin10dough's statements.

Also, voting for the Forum Awards ends at 11:59 P.M. EST today, so please be sure to vote. Also, since I am key contributer to finding these rumors, you wouldn't mind voting for me for Most Intelligent? Right?

 

[Genodisk]

Yeah, I remember submitting the supposed scan of the interview to Samurai Panda, and asked him to see if there was any mention of Smash Bros. in it, he told there wasn't, thus deconfirming that rumor.

Also, that latest rumor with Nin10dough saying that he has the roster was confirmed false by a fatal mistake he made in one of his statements. He said that Tamagon is a playable character, however, if Tamagon was a playable character, then there would have been a unique symbol in the Devil Assist Trophy update, thus deconfirming Tamgon and in turn also Nin10dough's statements.

Also, voting for the Forum Awards ends at 11:59 P.M. EST today, so please be sure to vote. Also, since I am key contributer to finding these rumors, you wouldn't mind voting for me for Most Intelligent? Right?

Sakurai could have just added that tamagon guy in as a result of the delay for a filler character, therefore he might not have even known he was gonna put tamagon in, or he didn't want to spoil tamagons pissible inclusion by giving the devil a symbol. Nowon ever thinks of these things they always take up irrelevent info that they think dismisses a big possible leak thinking that they are 100% correct.

 

[FrogButler]

Also, that latest rumor with Nin10dough saying that he has the roster was confirmed false by a fatal mistake he made in one of his statements. He said that Tamagon is a playable character, however, if Tamagon was a playable character, then there would have been a unique symbol in the Devil Assist Trophy update, thus deconfirming Tamagon and in turn also Nin10dough's statements.

If not for that, I would've 100% believed him.

The stuff about Subspace and what you unlock afterwards as well as the character roster analysis all sounded VERY credible.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Sakurai could have just added that tamagon guy in as a result of the delay for a filler character, therefore he might not have even known he was gonna put tamagon in, or he didn't want to spoil tamagons pissible inclusion by giving the devil a symbol. Nowon ever thinks of these things they always take up irrelevent info that they think dismisses a big possible leak thinking that they are 100% correct.

That's really not how it works....

By the time Devil was updated, that would have already been decided quite a while before

 

[Mike87]

That's really not how it works....

By the time Devil was updated, that would have already been decided quite a while before

Exactly, Sakurai doesn't just add something and then posts about it.

 

[Senor Crouch]

@ Blue Brawler-

I don't know the link to the GameFAQ, but here is a thread that states what this guy says:
http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=134501

Read post #1 and then go to post #19.

Yeah this is probably the longest, most in-depth rumor I have ever read.
Oh, by the way SmashChu it is Cecil not Celic that is the supposedly the second rep. for Square Enix. Just thought I'd point that out.

 

[SmashReliquint]

I heard that Lucario was to replace Mewtwo. I also heard that Tails, Shadow, and Knuckels are to be in. Lastly I heard that Krystal is to be in.

 

[Desruprot]

Krystal is Meh, in terms of lucario, take count of how many they jsut put in, they have no need for him, Tails is possible, but there would only be one more addition from Sega (if anything) it takes a lot to get the characters in. In addition we do not want the 3rd Parties out weighing the 1st, so....I do not think it is likly....

 

[Serebii]

I believe there were reports of Tails as an Assist Trophy at E For All

 

[MajinNecro69]

Gimpyfish would have said so if he saw a Tails AT. He was there a LOT.