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Rule #2: Never listen to Fino +1

Noa.

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The tier list isn't that bad at all.

I agree with top and high tier placements. I think Diddy is third best, since he's so safe with bananas.

Out posiston is fine. I'm not really sure if we are better than Pika, but our spot is fine.

Middle tier is fine too apart from three characters. Peach us still way too low. She should be in the highest tier of middle tier. She really can't be compared to Wolf and Fox. Pit is way too high, it kinda sickens me. ROB is too lie. He should be first in the highest tier of middle tier.

Low Tier is pretty much fine. Poor Mario should be a little higher though.
 
Kirbyoshi

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No, Mario sucks. Pikachu is not better than we are, but you're right, it is close. And I agree that Peach is a little underrated. So is ROB to some extent.
 
Turazrok

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I lost to a pikachu in tourney yesterday. And a metaknight. It was one upsmash away :(
 
Noa.

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The thing is, our strengths I feel are stronger than Pikachu's strengths. At the sane time, I feel like our weaknesses are more apparent than his.

Mario sucks, but he's better than all of low tier. He belongs at the top of low tier or bottom of middle tier.
 
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RichBrown said:
I remember when the game first came out and everyone thought Zelda was amazing.
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I could dig up posts dating like 2 months after the game came- me making fun of people for thinking Zelda was a solid high tier character. XD
 
Noa.

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RichBrown said:
ICs are kinda hard actually

I'm gonna teach you all something, pay close attention because whenever I share knowledge it's usually something really ****ing awesome

ok here we go

RICHBROWN PRESENTS: Proper mashing out of a grab

Thanks to Sean for teaching me this.

Ok, so lets say you hold up on your control stick, then move your control stick in the 8 cardinal directions. That equals 8 inputs. However, if you are holding your control stick to the far left, then move it to the right, that is 4 inputs. Which means that moving it left to right then back to left is 8 inputs. That's considerably faster than swinging your control stick in a circle over and over.

While doing that, mash your shield button, special attack button, standard attack button, and jump button (which is usually L, B, A, and X respectively, but I know some people have weird controls). Hitting any other button will not register as an input at all. So assuming you have a completely standard control scheme, Z, R, Y, Dpad, and the Cstick will not help you at all.

This should enable you to break out of IC grabs almost instantly up to 20% or so. Even after that you can still break out pretty fast if they have to wait that half second for nana to catch up.
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Hilt said:
@Noa, the yoshi matchup is really weird if you haven't played it before. You kind of have to play it like you play the luigi matchup, actually, but with a lot more uair, a lot more shielding, and lots and lots of whistle. Stay grounded, don't throw pikmin much from the air and fsmash a lot. Also DO NOT let your landings be at all predictable, yoshis will **** you for that, their pivot grab may not be as good as ours, but it destroys our landings. If there's anything specific about the matchup you don't understand though i may be able to help.

Also I just wanted to say Fino got banned AND I DIDN'T HAVE TO DO IT (<3 Fino). It's apparently a permanent infraction so I don't know if he'll be coming back.
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Hilt said:
haha didn't think about that. Luigi's going to come in at you with a nair, or a tornado, or a dair, or something with tons and tons of priority that's hard to keep out. He's basically just going to come in at your shield with it. And when he gets in, well, he has options to trump your up close options (mainly his jab). Yoshi's kind of the same way. His nair and bair are good for him getting in, while his jab and tilts trump our options up close. So you're going to want to focus on keeping that situation from happening. Don't sit in your shield thinking you can do something after he hits it because you can't unless you catch him off guard, but the odds are against you. He also beats out all of our aerial options as well, so we're a little bit vulnerable when in the air. However, all of his kills (aerial and grounded) are simple and easy to see coming, so whistling them really isn't a problem. He's also really floaty so if you whistle through an aerial OR just whistle until you get past him, you can get to the ground safely without him being able to keep pressure on you. I had two good yoshi's in my pool at pound so i had to figure out how to play the matchup on the spot @_@ i also played poltergust and pride. I don't hate the matchup like i use to lol.

But now I'm just rambling, I really should be sleeping... anyways, in all honesty the matchup really isn't that bad for us. Solid 60:40 our favor, imo. But if you don't know the matchup you're gonna get ****ed.

Same goes for wolf, it's a pretty even matchup, but the first few wolves you face are gonna be hard as hell, trust me @_@. It's kind of like the diddy matchup for me, where it's not really bad for us, just weird and complicated. And I'm not really the person to ask about it either :/ probably one of the matchups i know the least about.

edit: oh my god fino XD
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Just quoting this cause I need some of this stuff for my itouch.
 
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Alright, so I went Skiing this weekend with a good friend of mine. He was snowboarding, I was skiing. As we get there, he puts on a pair of blue gloves. I start laughing, and point out how it's sort of funny. He ends up breaking his arm halfway through. The curse of the Blue Gloves. (Oooooooooooohhhhhhhh)
 
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Kirbyoshi said:
No, Mario sucks. Pikachu is not better than we are, but you're right, it is close. And I agree that Peach is a little underrated. So is ROB to some extent.
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I don't think Pikachu is hard. And as for the tier list doesn't Pikachu have more bad match-ups? And what about stages? o-ov;

@Icy, Err-- D: Wow. Sorry about your friend.. I hope he feels better!! But it wasn't the gloves fault..

@SGTR, I want to say that's cute. XD But idk~? It's really funny looking! I'd use Telimar!
 
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IcyDeath said:
Alright, so I went Skiing this weekend with a good friend of mine. He was snowboarding, I was skiing. As we get there, he puts on a pair of blue gloves. I start laughing, and point out how it's sort of funny. He ends up breaking his arm halfway through. The curse of the Blue Gloves. (Oooooooooooohhhhhhhh)
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i bet if he had pink boots on he woulda got laid lmaooo
 
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I turned back, and he had fallen in the snow x___x
The Gloves are cursed.
 
Jiom

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could this be? fino is banned? does this mean we can finally chat?!
 
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Was it merely an freak accident? Or was it something else... something sinister...
 
ETWIST51294

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See what happend was that your friend didn't break his arm by falling, his blue glove was so powerful that it broke the arm it was on and therefore made him fall.
 
Turazrok

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I went all olimar at a tourney Friday. It was good. I'm getting better. I still got 2-0d by an average MK though T_T. Results later.
 
Pete278

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I was at a smash-till-dawn yesterday, and I couldn't figure out what I'm meant to do against ICs, and got completely ***** by them because of it. :(
 
RichBrown

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I had a tragic loss today

I grabbed te@rbear with a purple, and an Uthrow woulda ended the game, but I thought it was a blue, so I Bthrew, and he lived, and I went on to lose =( that's the first time I've ever made that mistake... I got 5th. grrr.

However, the day wasn't entirely a letdown. I learned against Marth that Uair is super good. As in, key to winning the matchup good. Just make them think they are baiting the pivot grab, then when they double jump just Uair them.

I got lucky against M!kehaze today, game 1 I was at 126 and he was around 72 last stock, and I ran up to him and charged a purple Usmash, and I released it midway through the charge, it hit him somehow and he died... I went on to win the set =^.^=
 
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^Agreed!
And I always make that mistake with colors.. Mainly because I need glasses so when particularly blue and purple are right next to each other I can't tell them apart. D: But fifth is still good! Grats~! And Marth is hard so glad you figured that out! o-ov I'll keep that in mind, too~
 
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